>Hello, I want discount and more dyke-ey Peggy Lee.
>Say no more.

>>126711210 (OP)
For me it's Lou Christie

Thank god the beatles saved us from this mediocrity

>>126711501
Beatles didnt save us from jack shit
Surf Rock did
Thank Dick Dale

>>126711501
June wasn't even pop, brah. Lrn2 cool jazz.

>>126711210 (OP)
you will never be a 50's houswife

>>126711501
>>126711532
>>126711676
Not one of these posters was born earlier than 2002.

I thought this was Helly R from severance and now I can’t unsee it. Just like I can’t unhear the synths on Elephant by Take Impala…

>>126711210 (OP)
June was kind of a meh vocalist you have to kind of train yourself to like her. Also this should be in the /jazz/ general thread.

>>126711698

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/any-june-christy-fans-on-here.134433/page-2

wait, what...what!?

>>126711676
that's not housewife pop, brah.

June kind of had depression issues and alcohol ones too, she was what people thought Peggy Lee was. She didn't live to be all that old either, was only 65 when she died.

>>126711671
right. lol she wasn't pop and never had any Billboard hits.

>meant to open this thread and accidentally hit the K-Poop general
Goddammit.

>>126712037
Why didn't you hide those threads on sight?

>>126711698
Anon I'm turning 30 this year

Aight, you win boomer -kun.

>>126711501
>>126711532
don't you have a Sabrina Carpenter thread to post in?

Christy pretty much lost interest in recording in the mid-60s she did have one comeback album in 1977 though she sounded kind of out-of-practice by then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcV6JTCu3FQ

June's appearance on Stars of Jazz in 1958 if you ever were curious what her normal speaking voice sounded like.

>>126711210 (OP)
I imagine 50smusicfag as an aged gay man. Celibate.

>>126712829
that's not the guy you're thinking of he or they (since it's multiple anons) only posts shitty 50s music not the good stuff

>>126712941
>that's not the guy you're thinking of he or they (since it's multiple anons)

wut

There's at least 3 anons who make these threads.

>>126713014
as far as I know it was just one guy and he never posted about jazz or any good 50s music just slop so it can't be the OP because he would never post a thread about vocal jazz

>>126706636
was this him too?

>>126713054
LOL no. The 50s pop schizos are 3 or so anons who posts about slop pop eg. Mitch Miller they don't post about rock and roll nor June Christy.

>>126713156
yeah. fuck this board is so low IQ anymore it's not even funny.

I live in North Carolina and you can find June Christy and other 50s-60s jazz singers records at flea markets for like 50 cents nobody wants them at least not around here they only want butt/dadrock records.

>>126713393
surprised you'd even find them down there at all i'd assume it's nothing but country records

>>126711210 (OP)
People seem to forget her for whatever reason when vocal jazz is discussed and idk why.

>>126713492
She didn't have any pop hits. Hipsters may not like to hear it but you do tend to be remembered more if you appeared on the Billboard at some point.

If you want bona fide housewife pop slop there you go. Also that woman was a Jew. Just thought I'd get that out there.

/mu/ will never not be filtered by vocal jazz.

that rather optimistic press release belies the fact that in fact a war was still going on and it was as yet assumed 1 million Americans would die in a holocaust invading Japan

>>126711929
Her health started going downhill in the '80s rather sad but she didn't live that long compared to a number of her contemporaries.

>>126711821
Because it's SHF they absolutely cannot resist pointless meandering about what the best JC vinyl presses were.

>>126713580
When postwar jazz is discussed everyone names Peggy Lee, Ella, Anita O'Day and Julie London but June gets oddly forgotten.

>>126713697
Three of the four you listed had at least one hit single everyone has heard that could be a reason for it.

Aw come on, picrel was a good album anon.

>>126713697
Nobody mentions Ella Mae Morse either

>>126713777
/mu/ cannot into vocal jazz. several anons in this thread actually conflated JC with the Patti Page kind of singers which she was not at all.

>>126713797
Technically she had one hit with "Cow Cow Boogie" at the beginning of her career when she was a big band singer but she later focused on white R&B that didn't get much radio play because she didn't have the voice for pop or jazz singing. She was good at sounding black though and people who heard her records often thought she was.

Meaning she could have made it if it was later in the rock era when technical singing was less important but in the 40s-50s cursive vocals especially for women singers were much more expected.

>>126712941
>(since it's multiple anons)

>>126713841
One guy starts something and other tards pick up on it and copy him and it snowballs into a running meme.

>>126713681
of course they would. why wouldn't they?

>>126713571
shame she was good in the 40s but by the Eisenhower years...

>>126713777
I know but lol it was half a joke. She was probably an oldskool dyke though.

>>126711821
>Glad to see I'm not the only boomer who has developed a big love for that whole 50's/60's girl singer thing. They were uncool if not totally unknown to me in my yute, but now I am hep to the jive! :D

Is that the 50s pop meme guy in that thread?

June always seemed half-depressed and crotchety--she also let it be known in interviews that she didn't really care about music made after about 1954.

>>126713571
so what exactly counts as housewife pop anyway? i'm not clear on this.

>>126714869
LOL Chantez-Chantez

>>126714869
Two songs, same singer. This is housewife pop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Wnely3Aag

This is not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muV5_M6cBGE

>>126715083
>Treasure of Your Love
this song is really an asspull because it's suggesting a woman would be satisfied with just your love instead of all the bling you could buy her

Second is more showtune-ish which doesn't surprise me since Eileen Rodgers quit pop music soon after that to go into Broadway.

>>126715101
Male songwriter's wish fulfillment.

It depends on the label. Columbia, RCA, and Coral were the big peddlers of schlock/housewife pop while Capitol and MGM were more classy and upmarket.

bump

>>126713697
Anita O'Day had more punchy-sounding songs, June Christy's were laid-back.

>>126715923
in such fairness and since you put it that way i think Anita was a greater interpreter than June who was more play-it-safe with her readings even though like June she didn't have an overwhelmingly powerful voice. all of Anita's Verve recordings are classics and shouldn't be missed. her rhythmic sense was totally original and she could make a song into something unique and "out there."

Anita lived to 86 she certainly lasted a long time compared to June even though I heard she got to near Frankie Valli tier of shambling zombie at concerts towards the end.

>>126716009
As I've said before Anita's Verve recordings are classic BUT her post-Verve work not so much. She complained that Verve neglected her in favor of their cash cow Ella but most of that post-Verve stuff disappoints. And there are some unfortunate reports that she turned into Frankie Valli in her final years. It was also said that in her prime she could be unpleasant and stand-off-ish to audiences.

>>126713797
>>126713815
she also had The Blacksmith's Blues for a hit single

June Christy, particularly with Rugolo, is the artier, quirkier, relatively obscure side of Capitol's late "second golden age" classic pop vocal scene and is arguably more individualistic than any female trad pop vocalist of the era. Anita is more closely identifiable with jazz singing. Some will note June has much less ability (and inclination to begin with) at what is often thought of as jazz singing, particularly in improvisation. Some find fault with her technical ability. Moreover, June doesn't fit the top favored form of the time in that you can hear/feel her effort - some say strain - rather than seeming to be effortless (for contrast in a not-entirely dissimilar technique, Keely Smith sounds powerful and relatively limitless without completely disconnecting from a feel for the effort). I find June an interesting and effective listen in part because of those factors not just in spite of them.

She never sold many albums outside Something Cool but did have a small loyal following. Post-Kenton she also didn't seem all that interested in promoting herself.

>>126716132
>>126715964
well June was never a GASB singer in the mode that Sinatra or Ella were and didn't record much of that material. her albums were usually original songs or sometimes offbeat interpretations of the pop hits of the day.

it should also be stressed that in that time before Elvis classic pop was mainstream chart hits music not easy listening or something you put on an LP to look pretentious and sophisticated.

>>126711210 (OP)
Love her something cool album

BTW Anita O'Day led a hilariously fucked-up and totally degenerate life, it's astonishing that she lived to 50 let alone 86. You think Phoebe, Billie etc are degenerate roasties? They're amateurs compared to her.

The great era for jazz singers, based on the number of singers and the number of recordings released, is actually after 1990, right up to the present.

With the rise in the number of independent high quality recording studios, jazz singers have been making recordings in their own way in virtually every city in the world and releasing them, mostly on small independent labels.

In the 1950's, nearly all recording activities, and the studios, were controlled by several major labels. The artists had to record pretty much what they were told. There were some small independents during that time, but the major labels did everything they could to crush those labels, by suppressing their distribution and radio airplay.

When the majors controlled everything, they also dictated song selection and musical arrangement styles. In recent years, if a singer wanted a jazz group behind them, they had one.

>>126716368
>In the 1950's, nearly all recording activities, and the studios, were controlled by several major labels. The artists had to record pretty much what they were told. There were some small independents during that time, but the major labels did everything they could to crush those labels, by suppressing their distribution and radio airplay.
Bit unfair considering that the largely indie labels that rock and R&B came out of did manage to subvert the major labels. But that aside one reason for jazz falling off as a mainstream format was that it no longer had major label promotion, just a lot of cottage industry labels. It was easier to get stuff out there circa 1955 when it had RCA or Capitol's bucks behind it.

And she had less than 2 years to live at this point.

>>126716308
speaking of degenerates who ended well before their time

people ranting about pre 63 music discussion? i bet those fags must miss the usual shitty meme threads of fantano, race bait and similar shit

Bump

>>126716658
>people ranting about pre 63 music discussion?
There's one paranoid schizophrenic who rants that all those threads are one guy possibly Christgau ranting about Mitch Miller or some shit.

>>126716477
Not her fault, her mother sold her to the 1930s versions of Harvey Weinstein for fame and fortune when she was 14.

>>126716658
^this

>>126716391
the big money behind jazz records shrunk dramatically after '65 as the focus shifted to rock

>>126716076
>It was also said that in her prime she could be unpleasant and stand-off-ish to audiences
If you were through as much shit as her you'd understand why.

b ump

>be me a while ago
>be in this record shop in St. Louis that specialized in pre-Beatles music like big band, early rock and roll etc
>the owner of the shop for some reason was a huge Teresa Brewer booster and was trying to sell me on what an underrated genius she was
>he had a lot of her records there
>dude was so obnoxious though that I would have been put off even if i'd been interested

>>126712686
Why do these showbiz people sound like they have an IQ over 80? I've never heard such a thing.

>>126713156
MITCH MILLER
MITCH MILLER
MITCH MILLER

BEGONE!

>>126723613
Might want to banish Perry Como while you're at it.

>>126712686
>>126723019
if you saw Teresa Brewer's appearance on the Muppet Show her normal speaking voice was also nothing like her singing voice

>>126723601
Because you watched a Billie Eilish interview where your IQ slowly dropped with each sentence she uttered.

>>126719570
Elaborate? Rundown?

>>126723019
It's calling having a waifu crush on the singer.

>>126724371
Judy Garland led a really sad life tbqh.