NAPSTER BAD

>>126720453 (OP)
And they were right.

200 DOLLAR BOXSET GOOD!

>>126720499
They were right for the wrong reasons. It wasn't piracy that killed music, but the shift from physical to digital.

they could have negated so much of the napster backlash if they'd have released a free online-only album for fans to have. they could have called it downLOAD. even if it was all b-sides and filler, it would have shown fans that they were ready to move on with the times.

but unironically metallica was 100% about napster and what the internet meant for the music industry.

>>126720902
>It wasn't piracy that killed music, but the shift from physical to digital.

Wasn't that inevitable though? I don't see how we could have the internet and NOT use it for purposes of music sharing/streaming.

>>126720902
It wasn't the shift from physical to digital that killed music, but recording technology altogether.

>>126720453 (OP)
>they were actually correct

Seriously, if there was one thing the recording industry wishes it could take back, it's letting techfaggots become lord and arbiter over them. The industry lost so much money thanks do digital downloads that the ONLY major act left that they throw all their resources behind is Taylor Swift

>>126720902
Not entirely correct. It was the fact that the Big Four* now had to cut a huge piece of their pie for outside usurpers like Apple, etc. and place th majority power of distribution into outside hands.

What they should have done was fight for another few years until they figured out how to create their own in-house digital distribution, but they were dinosaurs in the face of big new scary thing so they got spooked.


* No longer Four, probably just One at this point

>>126721689
>The industry lost so much money thanks do digital downloads
Let's not pretend cassettes weren't bootlegged on a near-industrial scale long before the internet entered the picture. Digital distribution at least made up for its piracy through iTunes and Spotify.

Also, digital distribution and especially streaming gives the labels an unprecedented amount of data as well as control over what people listen to. Techfaggots were the best thing that ever happened to the recording industry.

>>126720902
>but the shift from physical to digital.
it's not even that. it's once again the greed of the record companies. they were upset that they weren't getting their cut. they couldn't care less about the medium. see: current year and how they control all the streaming platforms and their payouts. artists are now getting less of a % from their music than ever.

>>126721752
Couldn't they just not put their music in platforms they don't own? At the end of the day, they're the ones with the music.

>>126720499
>OH NO NAPSTER IS BANKRUPTING ME I CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY MY SIXTH FERRARI
Lars is a sellout clown

>>126720902
who cares, fucking AI is going to kill music anyway

>>126720453 (OP)
its crazy how much this killed this band

>>126723468
it's a quarter century later and they're literally the biggest band in the world

>>126720453 (OP)
>build your career singing about "the man"
>become the man you were singing about
Sasuga

>>126720902
>the shift from physical to digital.
Which made piracy easier. This means they were definitely right.

>>126723456
it's not as easy to make money on AI-slop since nobody can copyright AI-slop. If you think regular music piracy is too easy, imagine trying to make a living off of your AI-slop when you can't even strike down millions of bots and pajeets from reuploading it 50 times to reputable streaming sites

>>126724118
Eh, it's not like copying a cassette was some mystical art. Literally everyone was doing it.

>>126724161
>nobody can copyright AI-slop
Until the lawsuits start rolling in and the law inevitably gets changed.

>>126724206
>Until the lawsuits start rolling in
Whatever retard tries this is going to need a damn good reason to because the reason why AI must be public domain is because it requires other peoples work to train its datasets. I know your generation is half dead from cynicism and brain rot but let's put on our thinking caps and big boy pants for a second and ask ourselves if there is any party out there who would even benefit from creating an oversaturated market where nobody can make any margins

>>126722877
Yeah but like I said, they were spooked. They figured The quickest way to "regain control" of the situation was giving most of that control to Big Tech. Back then it was way easier than it will ever be again for Techbros to wow recording dinosaurs with their gorilla dust

They probably signed contracts stating that shit like iTunes will have the rights to distribute for the next century or some shit.

>>126724241
>if there is any party out there who would even benefit from creating an oversaturated market where nobody can make any margins
I don't know, recording companies that already monopolize the market and want an opportunity to cut out the middleman (artist)?

>>126724300
Why would recording companies want to create an oversaturated market? Why would they want to "monopolize" a market with no barrier for entry? You didn't put on your thinking cap and big boy pants lil' bro

>>126724319
>oversaturated market
This implies everyone, even small players, will have access to the same models, or that everyone's model will be trained on similar datasets. A recording company that owns the rights to a musician's work can train a model on it and have a digital ghost creating music long after the original artist is dead, for example.

>>126724375
>A recording company that owns the rights to a musician's work can train a model on it and have a digital ghost creating music long after the original artist is dead, for example.
No, they can't. AI models require an insane amount of infrastructure to run and maintain

>>126724407
>AI models require an insane amount of infrastructure to run and maintain
For now.

>>126723468
What are you talking about? They hadn't made a good album in like ten years when that controversy took place.

>>126723456
wrong. prog metal will live on and continue to be made by actual musicians.
>proof?
it's happening right now despite no one in the mainstream giving a shit about it

>>126720453 (OP)
SPRINKLES GOOD!

>>126724895
>>126723483
well which one is it

>>126726173
Both. They're washed out but there are plenty of tone-deaf retards who keep buying their shit

>>126726220
Latest album was fairly meh, but Hardwired was a solid album that could've made a great EP. Also, the itunes or Guitar Hero version of Death Magnetic greatly improves that album too.

>>126723468
The only people who even really remember this video are fans of the band at this point.

>>126726144
kek, i remember that. need to rewatch these old vids

>>126724895
Who has made a good album in 10 years
Also last album was ok all considered

>>126720902
>industry=music
ok

>>126726354
Yes. The goal of literally every musician is to sign with a big label.

It's crazy that Napster still exists in some form. There must be less people using it than AOL

>>126726394
is there an archived version of 2000's napster and limewire?

reminds me of that irc exchange
"getting my song back
fucker"

>>126726681
Weird Al's "Don't download this song" makes fun of anti piracy campaigns

>>126726785
Forgot image

>>126726681

>>126726829
how old is this?

>>126727259
more than a decade old. saw that on bash.org forever ago

>>126723456
AI is already better than 99.9% of the garbage the studios put out. Of the last 10 memorable new songs I've heard in the last few years, I think 9 of them were AI created, but it's still just a tool and very few people are genuinely clever enough and persistent enough to use it to make good music.

>>126727259
it's bash.org, which we old folks used to laugh at in high school in the early 2000s, so at least 20 years old.

>"PIRACY IS MAKING US LOSE MONEY!!!"
>25 years later, they're way richer than ever before

>>126729758
but imagine how much richer they could be if they could force all those pirates to pay!

>>126721078
Except there were other solutions. While pirating still exists, it died down a lot following the creation of digital platforms and streaming services. Like Steam for games, Netflix for movies/shows, and Spotify for music. Of course, those are just some of the options that exist today.
The point is that in the early to mid 2000s, all the big corporations were acting like retards and trying to fight piracy via lawsuits and brute force, instead of trying to adapt and create new platforms that could act as viable alternatives. I mean, that did eventually end up happening, partially thanks to social media and smart phones, and most zoomers today don't even know how to pirate, or how to use a computer, because they've been raised by the corporate internet, and only have a surface level understanding of computers and smartphones.

Up and coming bands have to make money off merch instead of their music.

well there's an easy way to sum up this whole issue... let's hear what the guy who started it all says

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r6wn47_Vqs

add "getting served up by huffpo" to the list of humiliations for the scandi nepobaby

>>126729620
>>126729750
thanks ill go explore it in the waybackmachine and pretend im living in the 2000s