>look up classical composer playlists in apple music
>75% of the playlists are female composers

Do you mean the performers? Or mostly modern composers?

>>126734866 (OP)
huh? I don't think so.

>>126734966
Here’s the top of the list when you go to the classical composer section. literally whomst?

>>126734988
100% he means the musicians
I think you might need more than two brain cells to rub together if you want to enjoy classical OP

>>126734866 (OP)
>listening to classical on apple music
>listening to classical on any streaming service
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>>126735009
I got a few months for free. I’ll use any service for free.

>>126735000
Is this for pride month or something like that?

>>126734866 (OP)
>Overall, Apple Music Classical appears to be actively working to highlight and promote the works of women composers, contributing to a broader understanding and appreciation of their significant contributions to classical music history.

Just scroll past them if it bothers you, some of them are genuinely overlooked tho

>>126735000
>Maurice Ravel
Surprisingly based

>>126735036
Yes, that is what I must do. Though, if I were a paying customer I would be expecting a streamlined, convenient service. Imagine paying money to have a political agenda shoved down your throat.

>>126735083
Eh, just find the best performances of your favourite composers and download the relevant SACD rips. Streaming services have been cancer since day 1.

>>126735000
>no Vitezslava Kapralova or Lili Boulanger
into le trash it goes

>>126735083
Do you think it was political when these kinds of things featured no women, regardless of how good their work actually was? Because let's be real, that was most of history, and it was political, just unchallenged, and therefore unnoticed by us as the beneficiaries of that male default. They were just left out unless they really couldn't be avoided for some reason - like Hildegard Von Bingen.
Currently studying art history and it's the same way. Almost comical how blatant some of it is. The most prolific book of art history actually contained zero women in its early printings, starting in 1962. No Mary Cassatt, Frida Kahlo, Georgia O'Keeffe, Gentileschi etc. We know there wouldn't be a lot in there, but it gets pretty bad.

I know it's annoying though, but I just try to look at it as a temporary over correction. It won't last. If anything it's good because we get to discover some good shit that we've missed out on even hearing before this kind of thing dies down and most of them are once again forgotten.
As far as classical goes, older acts especially will never really get their seat at the table even where it's deserved, as men make up the majority of listeners and are less likely to choose to listen to the females in the first place. Nothing inherently wrong or evil about that, females would naturally do the same thing. Just playing devil's advocate.
There are quite a few good contemporary females as well, I'm more familiar with them, but you may not be interested in fucking with anything contemporary if you're just getting into classical. Didn't mean to go on such a rant but oh well.

>>126735322
If you think I’m reading all that without getting paid by the hour, you are sorely mistaken.
You know who the worthy composers are. You know which composers should be on that list and which ones should be omitted.

>>126735336
No I don't, because I haven't heard all of their work. Have you?

>>126735453
I hate to do this on /mu/, but post tits or gtfo.

>>126734866 (OP)
>trusting an algorithm with your playlists
I shiggy

>>126735462
>hate to do this on mu
Don't lie, but no I don't have tits or I'd prob love to show them off.

>>126735481
You are irrelevant here. Please learn.

>>126735336
Idk there are enough chicks in pop/rock that I love were absent in most best of lists I remember from the 90s until we reevaluated stuff we only heard bc of the internet that are now classics like Kate Bush or Nina Simone or Fiona Apples 90s stuff

>>126735336
>>126735453
>>126735462
>>126735481
>>126735508
All me btw

>>126735508
All of us here are singularly irrelevant. Why would you be threatened by one or two females making it into the historical narrative? It's more likely to reinforce the rule that there historically weren't many females worth adding to the narrative than rejecting them outright, when you leave the narrative of rejection on the table you just leave room for the idea that they've been systemically squashed to keep existing.

>>126735322

This is hogwash. The vast majority of greats in every field have always been men because men are both better at solving problems and care more about achieving greatness. The notion that it was just or even primarily politics that kept women composers from being unnoticed is preposterous.

>thread devolves into /pol/faggotry
cringe

>>126735607
>implying it didn't start out that way

>>126735590
Small minded in so many ways. We're talking about potentially missing out on a small handful of greats, not completely rewriting history. The vast majority of greats in every field has always been male because the vast majority in every field has always been male. One of the reasons for that is the male drive, but it doesn't answer for the entire disparity in male/female participation. It's not even necessarily always a bad thing.

>>126735650
Kid gloves. Kindly fuck off.

>>126735632
Problem is, OP kind of has a point. Artificially pushing certain artists over others is a bad thing, regardless of reason. If apple wanted to this right, they'd have a "female composers" category, or "underappreciated composers you might have missed."
Turning this whole thing into some korean-tier male vs. female thing is dumb and detracts from the original point.

>>126735672
>If apple wanted to this right
If apple wanted to do this right

>>126735336
>>126735462
>>126735508
>rejects anon outright for being a woman in response to the claim that these women were rejected outright for being women
you guys don't even know you're doing it! and no I won't show my tits lol

>>126735663
Kids gloves =/= nuance gotcha

>>126735688
>listen to something that’s not good because it’s, LE GOOD
>>126735690
Grow a fucking brain, and know that “xim/xir” means you’re a male.

>>126735607
It was always polfaggotry. I was trying to be reasonable and play it down as not a huge deal.

>>126735697
>not good
Have you listened to all of their work to ascertain that they aren't good? I don't even know what you're trying to say with this xim/xir bullshit. Stay stunted friend.

>>126735672
Stop noticing, chud

>>126735009
How do you listen to it?

>>126735775
With a certain blue bird app

>>126735607
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>>126735699
>screeching
no such thing, you lost and your entire roastie-fag conglomerate is going down the shitter
>>126734866 (OP)
only cunts living off taxpayer's money and USAID bought iphones since it went to shit
now they are going into classical because the rest of the drugs ain't strong enough, simple as

there were probably millions of female composers before WW2
but nobody listened to them
except those burned at a stake, they listened to them alright

>>126735000
Wtfffff LOL

The only female composer that matters is Pauline Oliveros.

>>126737039
RIP I met her at a noise show.
Seriously this list is her, Yoko, Enya, Mary Lou Williams (who was really more of a jazz artist) and literally who?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women_composers_by_birth_date
Not even women listen to this shit

>>126737105
plus Diamanda Galas and a few others but I'm not reading this shit. Hundreds of sloots.

https://youtu.be/HZ1YOgHjX7Y?si=gNc_Sa5Fh5pIoCWq

I have a surprising amount of loves that were written by womyn
Classicalfags that skip all vaginas are retarded simple as

>>126737105
Goddamn imagine having such small numbers you could scroll through them all in a couple mins. You'll get more dudes in a span of like twenty years. They were busy having babies I guess kek

>>126735590
>men are both better at solving problems and care more about achieving greatness
kek, no

>>126735000
>literally whomst?
For real. I thought I knew at least something about Classical... Who knew it was dominated by females?

>>126737123
Is she really a composer? I think just a stellar artist. No one can actually recreate her. It's also been on my mind lately that people like her will be immune to AI too.

>>126735650
you forgot to mention women were literally not allowed to do anything until like the 1960's when they got permission to open their own bank account

>>126737337
You'll appreciate this essay
https://www.writing.upenn.edu/library/Nochlin-Linda_Why-Have-There-Been-No-Great-Women-Artists.pdf

>>126737337
One of the most important musicians of the 20th century was Nadia Boulanger

>>126735000
>essentials
>it's just women and niggers
Lol. Also, what's up with those godawful drawings? Or is it AI slop? Doesn't even remotely look like Mozart.

>>126735009
This.

>>126735650
nigger the reason why men dominated in the first place is because they are better you absolute buffoon. it's like saying black people would be rhodes scholars if they had the same opportunities nigger everyone has the same opportunity it's called life and the cards fall where they do explicitly on the basis of what everyone is playing with, and in the case of blacks and women it's much less than a full deck

>>126735650
that's like saying women were better at mining but men just robbed them of the joy
>the fuck?!

>>126737860
dumbest post of all time award

>>126738705
>t. I got 66 more IQ points because I am black
>what you mean they ain't real??!

>>126737273
They are, though.

>>126737860
How can you be this stupid though? How have you been on the earth for 18 years and learned literally no history what the fuck? Are you even 18?
And then you go on to admit that blacks and women aren't even getting a full deck to play with? You fucking realize that that very metaphor is used to illustrate when someone DOESN'T have equal opportunity - and you even specify OPPORTUNITY directly before you say it. It actually pisses off how stupid this post is and I'm not usually in the habit of defending niggers and womemes. This shit is just embarrassing. Kys

>>126738245
Wat

>>126735000
Trips for effort. I know nothing about classical, isn't Mozart, Bach, and that one faggot the Ukrainian always talks about the top 3?

>>126739803
Even though the order of top composers is subjective, most people who listen to classical on a regular basis would be annoyed to have to scan through a list of literal who’s to find Beethoven, Bach, Brahms, Vivaldi, Wagner, Debussy etc.
It’s not the end of the world, simply an annoyance that streaming services likely already hemorrhaging money should consider changing.

>>126735000
this shit will literally kill music

>>126737431
*teachers

>>126739803
>that one faggot the Ukrainian always talks about
The foxy weeb?
Either Mahler or Bruckner

>>126737273
Are you a tranny or a gay?