Did jazz peak with Chet Baker? - /mu/ (#126754666) [Archived: 1004 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:45:02 AM No.126754666
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:50:01 AM No.126754716
More or less. Starts with Charlie Christian ends with Derek Bailey.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:48:02 AM No.126755220
Jazz peaked with Lee Morgan
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:15:56 AM No.126755916
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>>126754666 (OP)
Chet Baker is just evidence for lookism in music, cool jazz blows and his albums are boring. He even released this total flop with the most pretentious album name of all time
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:18:09 AM No.126755936
Chet looked good and he was white so it was ok for white women to buy his albums in the 50s even though they were just okay.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:19:34 AM No.126755945
>>126754666 (OP)
>only remembered for that one album where he sang like a girl
grim
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:21:36 AM No.126755964
can't say I've ever been a fan from what i've heard of his output
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:45:09 AM No.126756093
^^^^^
Check out these try-hards.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:29:18 AM No.126756965
>>126754666 (OP)
Yes, although he peaked in his later career. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skSx-ECpzmw
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:03:32 AM No.126757276
>>126754666 (OP)
literally just cocktail background music for middle-upper class white people
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:50:09 PM No.126758783
>>126754666 (OP)
trips checked and no, your question is stupid and you're stupid for asking it.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:37:38 PM No.126758967
>>126754666 (OP)
I never really got the appeal
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:16:19 PM No.126759145
>>126754666 (OP)
No, he was a good trumpet player but his singing sucks.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:33:18 PM No.126759238
>>126755945
>>126759145
why do you hate his singing? Chet's voice is unique and such a vibe. His vocal albums aged better than any other pop/jazz singer from his time

They all sound corny and theatrical yet Chet sounds real. I don't mind listening to him in-between Lana and Deftones
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:59:22 PM No.126759763
>>126754666 (OP)
Yes
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:23:48 PM No.126759990
No talent just White
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:48:10 PM No.126760163
>>126759238
"Unique" doesn't mean good. He was very limited as a singer, no range, very little emotion, and it only really worked (sometimes) with ballads like My Funny Valentine or I Fall in Love Too Easily. He said way more with his trumpet than he ever did with words:https://youtu.be/uEihTJGkRUY?si=OZNePaStL_j5OeZ8
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:02:24 PM No.126760254
>>126759238
Yeah, Chet was an amazing singer. Every jazz standard he sang, his version is the best one.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:03:33 PM No.126760263
>>126760163
im a baritone and id sell my soul for his voice, there are so many endless possibilities yet im stuck with country hick voice
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:04:46 PM No.126760271
>>126754666 (OP)
>vocal jazz
absolutely not
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:57:10 PM No.126760698
>>126755916
is this true? he was always missing teeth and later in his career he looked like a crackhead.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:34:54 PM No.126760991
>>126760263
You can make it work, a lot of great versatile singers were baritones; Elvis, Sinatra, Nat King Cole, Ben E. King, and others
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:41:28 PM No.126761058
>7/10 trumpeter
>6/10 vocalist
no lol
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:42:37 PM No.126761072
>>126760698
Both are true, he was attractive at first and then drugs helped him with accelerating aging.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:01:29 PM No.126761831
>>126760163
His voice was incredible, I don't know how you can say he had no emotion in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ViI7j1LK4
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:11:12 PM No.126761927
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Baker peaked with Mulligan
https://youtu.be/bheZvff6qOc?si=zQniSdR1gcV_ujI7
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:12:46 PM No.126761945
>>126754666 (OP)
I don't know let me listen to him and find out
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:09:49 PM No.126762525
do people in this thread saying yes actually listen to jazz? if so list your favorite albums
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:22:50 PM No.126762690
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The Best of Chet Baker [Riverside, 2004]
Baker was the genius journeyman for whom Dave Hickey devised the freelancer's epitaph: "If This Dude Wasn't Dead, He Could Still Get Work." He recorded some 60 albums, and although I know I slightly prefer this 15-track '50s selection to Hickey's "all-time favorite record" Chet Baker Sings, and much prefer it to Bluebird's jazzier 1962 Chet Is Back!, I'm not about to explore them all. His adore-the-melody trick has its limits unless his white Oklahoman affect touches you like it does Hickey, the white Texan son of a swing musician with bebop dreams. So this is ideal. As someone who's always preferred Baker's singing to his trumpet, I was surprised to find that three vocals were only one short of what I would have preferred (words on "It Never Entered My Mind" later on, please), and surprised to swoon for the instrumental opener, a 1952 "My Funny Valentine" the notes claim was a hit. I was also surprised to hear more romance--and less "cool"--in this "My Funny Valentine"'s lyricism, sensuality, and bassline than in the contemporaneous version that opens Miles Davis Plays for Lovers. Thank Baker's smooth, soft, full, breathy sound. Thank Gerry Mulligan, Zoot Sims, and (on the two jazz compositions) Johnny Griffin. Thank Paul Chambers. Thank the melodies. A