Who were the boomer industry plants and nepo babies?

>>126776530 (OP)
Terry Melcher was Doris Day's son

Jim Morrison

>>126776530 (OP)
I like his music but...Ricky Nelson

>>126776530 (OP)
Your favorite band

>>126776530 (OP)
kate bush

David Bowie

>>126776530 (OP)
Unless we're (pointlessly) naming 100% artificial entities such as boy bands, "industry plants" can only really be a thing in the post-dialup internet era, when so much emphasis is placed on the listener discovering something. Sure, bands had to pay their dues and prove themselves in a live setting or whatever, but getting your demo tape in the right hands or scoring an audition (which of course sounds ludicrous today) were pretty much the only ways to get anywhere. And the bigger the name the better your odds. Anyone determined to make a living as an artist cannot put all their chips on 'cred'; choosing not to chase influence is a luxury.

>>126777067
there are a lot of legit bands pre-internet that would've had a helping hand over others. Bon Jovi's close relative owned a popular recording studio, Slash's mom was a fashion designer who worked closely with famous celebrities, and Stewart Copeland's dad was CIA. They would've all gotten plant accusations if the internet was around then.

Kim Wilde. Her father was a producer and her brother wrote her songs for her.

>>126776530 (OP)
It's easier to ask who weren't

>>126777721
who weren't?

>>126776530 (OP)
the beatles were pushed into the industry by a gay man. they were also a boyband

>>126776530 (OP)
Peter Asher of Peter & Gordon was a rich doctor's son and got to have a music career solely because his sister was dating Paul McCartney. After the hits dried up he became the A&R man at Apple Records and discovered James Taylor, then made a bazillion dollars producing all of Linda Ronstadt's 70s albums.

>>126776530 (OP)
>industry plants
hard to tell, a lot of them were just performing songs written either by their producer or ghost writers
>nepo babies
I don't think there were that many back then

>>126776551
his dad wasnt at the gulf of tonkin. there two ships at the gulf and he wasnt in either of them. he was stationed far outside of the zone.

>>126776931
He was decidedly middle class.
After his first failed music attempts, he got in good with the Clown Guild. This is how the "small people" make it.

>>126776551
Jim was not a plant. He was fucked up though.

The Mafia threatened radio stations into playing Frank Sinatra.

The Monkees

>>126777152
do we not also remember that Dimebag and Vinnie Abbott's uncle was a record company executive?

Nancy Sinatra? Doit.

note for the zoomers and retards ITT:
nepobaby / plants != not completely poor

You think Janet Jackson would have had a career in pop music if her name was Janet Smith?

>>126780460
if you want to go back to pre-rock singers Teresa Brewer could count as the Silent Generation Taylor Swift given that her mother groomed her for a music career from early childhood.

>>126780583
I wouldn't count that nor Petula Clark. Also it was the Depression era nobody was actually "rich" back then.

Randy Newman would be an obvious example since his uncle was a film score composer.

bump

>>126776530 (OP)
Kate Bush

>>126780605
>Also it was the Depression era nobody was actually "rich" back then
lol rich people always stay rich.

>>126776530 (OP)
Frank Zappa

>>126776530 (OP)
who cares?

the whole sniveling about plants/nepo/privilege is so fucking stupid.

If the music is good, who cares if it's a plant?
If the music sucks, who cares if it's a plant?

there's literally no correlation between "being a plant" and "making good albums" so why the fuck is this on /mu/ instead of /pol/ or wherever insecure losers go to whine about "nepo"?

Michael Jackson
Morrison was an aspiring actor

>>126780605
Petula Clark's father was a Welsh coal miner she absolutely did not come from a posh background.

>>126782421
>we missed out on jim morrison kino
It's not fair...

The Sex Pistols was started by a fashion company

>>126776530 (OP)
>industry plants and nepo babies
better question, why is this board obsessed with this concept?

>>126782444
They were almost a boy band they hand selected the band. John Lydon was the front man and philosophcal direction of the group and Sid Vicious was supposed to be the face and the one who was actually a punk

>>126780583
>if you want to go back to pre-rock singers Teresa Brewer could count as the Silent Generation Taylor Swift given that her mother groomed her for a music career from early childhood.
not the same thing. her father was a factory foreman in Toledo and she was doing local radio shows from childhood and grew from there into an adult singer. that was much more like Petula Clark who also came up in the same era on radio shows (the BBC in that case).

besides back in the 30s-40s that was common for singers to be discovered on local radio shows often when they were kids. that included Rosemary Clooney, Georgia Gibbs, and others. not comparable to Swift whose dad was a hedge fund manager who bought her a career, she grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth.

>>126782444
>>126782503
My favorite is Zayn

>>126782542
Her dad owned a shitty Christmas tree farm in Pennsylvania? that's not that big a deal.

ITT: Wannabe communist idiots

>derf if you didn't grow up in a shack in West Virginia with no running water or electricity you're not "real" and shouldn't be a musician

>>126782618
rich nepo babies ruined music, dude. they're empty husks of people with nothing to say.

>>126776530 (OP)
>>126777067
>"industry plants" can only really be a thing in the post-dialup internet era
the 50s were filled with record label plants and songs written by labels

>>126782665
American poorfags are the most unagentic and shallow mongoloids in the history of the species. Mainstream rap and country are unarguably worse than the snobby shit uni-brats are making right now.

>>126782447
a lot of online music subculture is fixated on "authenticity" Might have to do with the influence of punk
>>126782725
>Mainstream rap and country are unarguably worse than
reddit + redcoat

>>126782745
American and have never even had an account.

>>126782618
Hasil Adkins is better than your favorite artist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiJCMsiBL9E

>>126782402
Its jealousy. Im not sure what the end goal is. To say rich people aren't allowed to do anything? Don't we all want to be rich?

>>126782761
Based.

>>126782683
>the 50s were filled with record label plants and
examples?
>and songs written by labels
that was normal practice back then. you sang standards written by professional songwriters or else record labels had their own in-house songwriting teams.

>>126782773
envy, not jealousy, but I know what you meant and you're not wrong.

as we went over, Ricky Nelson

>>126782402
because they're not actually talented but get shoved down our throats anyways.

>>126782582
he obviosuly had enough cash to buy a stake in the record company that signed her lol.

>>126782542
>that included Rosemary Clooney
Father was an alcoholic Irish house painter.
>Georgia Gibbs
Her parents both died when she was a child and she was placed in a Jewish orphanage.

Point well taken that there were no Swifts, Carpenters, or Eilishes back then who all had rich nepo connections.

>>126783122
Sabrina was grinding for years without success until recently.

>>126776530 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1yA1Kq3uvk
The GOAT

>>126783141
disney
bart simpson

>>126783546
>bart simpson
Personally I don't think that carries as much weight now as it did in 1995.

>>126783589
you're pretty stupid if you think that doesn't matter. The voice actress would probably be one of the most known people in the industry despite the general public not knowing who she is based on how long the show has been running and how successful it was in the 90's.

>>126783589
disney

>>126782402
>who cares
those who've seen what became of society under the stewardship of our elites

>>126778888
Tell me more about these clown people

>>126782402
>If the music is good
that's the problem, it never is