Holy shit, they're shit

>>126810888 (OP)
sigma doomer nightwalk core

>>126810888 (OP)
ur shit

>>126810888 (OP)
how were people so effortlessly effay back then?

>>126810888 (OP)
Unknown Pleasures is not debatable. Closer is a bad record (I know, filtered etc etc, but it's a shitty direction for the band and only 3 of the songs are worth any time - if Curtis didn't die I don't think it would be considered special).

>>126811061
idk but the post-punk guys were definitely much better dressed than the first wave punk bands dressing like shit "as a statement"

>>126811061
It's 100% the photography. You perceive them as more effay because there's an "vintage, black and white, muh nostalgia" bonus. If say some generic twink faggot indie band such as black midi or black country new road dressed and styled like JD in that pic you would either be completely indifferent or call them gay tryhards

>>126810888 (OP)
These extremely low effort OPs should be fucking bannable. Fuck you. Kill yourself

>>126811079
You might be based, depending on which 3 songs.

>>126811103
>If say some generic twink faggot indie band such as black midi or black country new road dressed and styled like JD in that pic you would either be completely indifferent or call them gay tryhards
Which would be correct

>>126810888 (OP)
Interpol-core

agreed, New Order is better

>>126811061
I’m stealing the outfit of the one on the far right

>>126811122
I'm sure you won't agree, but those three songs are
>A Means To An End
>Heart and Soul
>Twenty Four Hours
Those songs sound like Joy Division with a sometimes interesting development in the sound. The rest have at times interesting ideas in them but weren't there yet.

>>126811165
Those are probably what I'd pick too. So, based.

>>126811103
no they are effay

>>126811061
I think it has to do with people back then generally being healthier and leaner as well as the actual quality of the clothing being higher than the standards we have today

>>126811103
>implying black midi have any drip whatsoever

>>126810888 (OP)
>"this band is shit!"
>doesn't explain why and leaves the thread
when will low effort posters kill themselves? instagram has its doors wide open for you to rage bait in the comments.

>>126811107
Technically they are, but what does it matter if no one's enforcing

fuck you joy division rules

>>126810888 (OP)
>>126811337
More like twink division

>>126811142
>New Order is better
This used to be more popular to say, though I think it's not true. Having said that, I rate the songs on this release just as highly as Joy Division stuff.

>>126811142
its the same shit lets be real except for later new order stuff

>>126811157
but anon they were all on the far-right

>>126811079
A lot of the problems with Closer is because Martin Hannet did a terrible job on the mix on those other songs. The Peel Session version of Colony actually sounds good for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66DAjsJy4bc&list=PLzlbAG6SqtkT70H9eWgIeexLOXbyBLq0I&index=8

Some of the other songs sound half baked though, and Love Will Tear us Apart is possibly the worst Joy Division song because it spams that one riff too much.

>>126811424
and yet like 99% of their listeners either don’t care or don’t know where their aesthetic influences came from

>>126811103

>>126811465
cringe not effay

>>126811165
same for me except with Decades instead of Twenty Four Hours

>>126811462
>A lot of the problems with Closer is because Martin Hannet did a terrible job on the mix on those other songs.
Yes I agree with you in part. Especially the first half of the album is really egregious. I don't know offhand if it's an error or intentional, but the sound doesn't work for me. Colony is, I agree, one of those songs with interesting ideas in it. I think a lot of those ideas show up again on New Order's first album, though, so it isn't fully a production problem. What wanted to be born was something like Dreams Never End, which to me was a big breath of air after Closer (not because it's catchy or easier to digest but because it's clearly a sound that wanted to come out).

>>126811463
ian couldn't be more obvious if he tried

>>126811267
>"rage bait"
Zoomie zoomie

>>126811536
A talentless poorfag who killed himself was a chud? No way!

>>126811570
Ian is a living legend bro

>>126811552
obsessed

>>126811570
he jiggy with it doe

>>126811507
A lot of the first half is like that, I think the songs aren't really very refined either but his mixing doesn't help at all.
The two Joy Division songs that ended up being recorded by New Order (ceremony and In a Lonely place) would have been two of the best had they been done for Closer

With all that said, Heart and Soul, 24 hours and Decades are great, lyrically too. The Eternal as well.

>>126811220

they were working class Mancunians they were profoundly unhealthy lol. Bernard said he didn't even see a tree until he was like 8 years old.

>22 year old rock star with a wife and a mistress sings about depression

>>126810888 (OP)
go back to listening to your Fantano fag shit

>>126811142
this is true, but only with Peter

>>126811061
Literally just button front shirts that fit you, tucked in.

>>126811107
At least we're talking about post punk

Ignoring these stupid faggots, have you all watched Xiu Xiu and Deerhoof cover Unknown Pleasures? It's pretty based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKF3DF-TvrQ

>>126811142
This. Regret alone mogs the entirety of Joy Division's discography.

>Holy shit, they're shit

>>126815230
Xiu Xiu is trash
>>126815335
delusional

>>126815398
Ok but they do a pretty damn good job doing that cover

>>126815398
Ian sucks. Best thing that ever happened was that he was too much of a pussy to live. Regret is better than anything he wrote.

>>126810888 (OP)
Rest in peace, Ian

>>126813950
95% of people today can't manage that.

>>126810888 (OP)
Goy Division

>>126810888 (OP)
New Order was so much better despite how amateurish Bernard and Gillian were. I think Stephen Morris was the real talent in that band.

>>126811061
It's because they were rail thin from diets of unsalted boiled potatoes.

>>126817200
maybe on guitar bernard lost his edge from joy division, so i would agree he became a little amateurish but holy fuck this dude was a god with electronics

>>126817217
No, it isn't.

>>126817200
>New Order was so much better
Better how exactly? When they were doing the Joy Division sound, they were worse. When they were doing a different sound, there's no comparison available that isn't just circling around preference. The only thing that can be said is that they were more popular, but that gap may have (probably has) been bridged over time. New Order is a cool band but "New Order is better than Joy Division" is by now so fucking played out dude.

>>126818397
New Order sold more.

>>126820128
No doubt, but I think the ambient popularity of Joy Division has been growing much faster and New Order's has been declining. There's just a sexier story with Joy Division that has appealed to normies. I know of no New Order movie or desire to make one.