>>126846529 (OP)
Most definitely fucking not, but I do love it

What's the diff between dnb & jungle?

>>126846560
The frontline is very thin on that question. Jungle is basically older and used samples, and there's an argument for it being more devoted to stuff like dub, where dnb is more "programmed" if you like. I think arguments about bpm and arrangement are nitpicky and generally not persuasive. But realistically one bleeds into the other and the differences, if any, tend to be subtle, particularly in the early days.

>>126846560
jungle is for black people and white people who know, and drum and bass is for corny white people

>>126846539
I think he meant Jungle. If so, he is totally, 100%, objectively absolutely right.
https://youtu.be/-_b4TWID5rE?si=MPLSqqqkAxgRgB7L

>>126846560
Jungle is heavily sample based and was traditionally made with hardware samplers. DnB relies more on synthesis and is made with DAWs. But as >>126846607 says there's a lot of overlap.

>>126846529 (OP)
WHAT'S MY FAVORITE GENRE OF MUSIC?
WHAT'S MY FAVORITE FUCKING GENRE OF FUCKING MUSIC?

>>126850457
That guy looked so pissed lmao

>>126846529 (OP)
Yes

Any new jungle in, guy?

Why did futurepop never take off?

>>126850830
I have no idea who those people are.

>>126846560
jungle is 93 to 94. drums and bass is like the generic version

>>126846529 (OP)
no. it's trance

>>126846529 (OP)
SmOkE sO mUcH wEeD iT WiLl DriVe U InSaNe WeEd On My MiNd yEaH WeEd oN mY bRaIN wEeD In My SyStEm aNd wEeD iN mY VaiN MiGhT As WelL PuT ThE DaM WeEd In My MiDdLE NaMe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUIAFtnbLCM

No it’s happy hardcore. Especially the early stuff. The emotion of trance with the high energy rhythms of jungle. Combine that with the youthful, frantic attitude of the early producers and you get some of the most exciting and beautiful music ever made

>>126846560
Jungle has more reggae samples

>>126854889
jungle is a young man in his bedroom on his amiga squashing 3 short tracks into one 4+ minute song that contains every musical idea that he has ever had.

>>126855927
jungle must have the amen break with time stretch artifacts from early gen akai samplers. drum and bass can be anything

>>126856639
i love jungle but its never made me cry before. happy hardcore has many times. and happy hardcore raves are wild unlike jungle raves where its a bunch of pseuds

https://youtu.be/k-odMZH-VFQ?si=yHqrthW8m83jR7o3
>>126856639
Haha yep!
It's that creative earnesty that has inspired me in many aspects.
https://youtu.be/UUWZHX3HRUI?si=MGYSRNm-VUKGDlL9&t=1962
And it really does seem that way. Many of these guys made one or two landmark plates and disappeared into the blue-collar industry.
Aphex twin being the astute cookie that he is expressed similar sentiments
https://pitchfork.com/features/cover-story/9506-strange-visitor-a-conversation-with-aphex-twin/?page=2
This is supposedly his fav jungle record
https://youtu.be/qOE963LNoP4?si=laGG8AduHJnQBTeO
>>126856843
What are some of your fav H-HC records or tracks? I only really come back to DJ Vibes.

>>126857353
New anon here, do you like house stuff?

https://youtu.be/ZDz1j6YbgE4

>>126846529 (OP)
I prefer dub tech by a long shot; Rather a lot of it is magnificently soothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9pjQfh0Zvg&list=RDMM&index=27

>>126846560
Jungle is associated with a specific 90s culture while drum and bass is all the similar music both from that period and later through to now

>>126846529 (OP)
Acid Techno

https://youtu.be/0FftaaPCJ7o

>>126852054
Stalk this person
https://youtube.com/@daphneandfern?si=nHl2NscamGx1rALe
https://rateyourmusic.com/~wreo

Who are some good modern dnb producers.

>>126850457
Kek

>>126854889
What are your favorites? Im mostly into IDM stuff but it sounds interesting

>>126862677
Someone In The Jungle
https://youtu.be/ju2i5tVn_30?si=bm1XTGqCLHzWa99y

DJ 유틸리티 조끼
https://youtu.be/Gh5zq9LK7Ik?si=EddTLpczNXi9sfID

https://youtu.be/VoX5cYVzDDw?si=Nb_JR8pD17suC7zl

>>126846529 (OP)
Death industrial and its not even close

So... is IDM just techno or just plain experimental techno? I hate the term IDM.

>>126846560
i hate how a certain group of retarded children has stolen the previous acronym

>>126865650
nomenclarure has been changed to ELM

>>126852054
12"s/EPs:
Various - Blunted Breaks Vol.3 (LP Sampler)
Dead Man's Chest & Thugwidow - Forgotten Paradise 2
Ricky Force - Pressin' Hard 001 Remixes
Flobama - Orion Sound
Various - Nocturnal Frequencies LP Sampler
Artilect - Flutter

LPs:
Kid Lib - Nature Of Reality
DJ Mindhunter - Mind System
Soulox & Xtra Spice Mikey - Ghetto Jungle Music

Mixes/Compilations/Misc:
Various - Blunted Breaks Vol.3
Various - Nocturnal Frequencies LP
Various - Defender II Chaos Earthbound
Shizuo - Junk Data Archival 1995-2001
Adam F - Colours Revisited

That Shizuo comp came out of nowhere and with no marketing behind it but it's excellent, RIP to the man. Otherwise best actual new release this year is the Kid Lib album, opening track is phenomenal.

this isn't a genre

you are all severely mentally deficient

>>126868288
Explain why it isn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HARstPyZmFs

>>126846560
Jungle had a rawer sound, using duller thumping sounds and more syncopated whipping beats.

DnB has always sounded drier, impersonal and technical, also somewhat more uptempo than jungle.
Early days dnb had a very specific recognisable sound with a very fast technical interplay between beats and basslines. The most illustrative sound I can think of is Roni Size

>>126858636
Like, dnb/jungle house hybrids? I've only heard a few tracks but it can sound really cool when it's good.
If you have a few more tunes to share, I'm all for it.

check this out junglists

>>126846529 (OP)
Greatest DnB album of the '00s, along with Second Sun by Calibre.

>>126850830
you just know

>>126862677
Dgohn, coco bryce (when he actually makes dnb like in Night on Earth), tim reaper

My fav tho is djrum, but he makes what i would describe more as progressive dnb, in that its similar to prog rock with longer tracks with lots of different sections that dont repeat and not neccessarily built for mixing. The idm of dnb, but without the silliness and sonic overload of drill and bass
https://youtu.be/PzryN33ADCk?si=QEFveBTEzDEISfWm
Skip to 2:45 for the proper breaks to start
https://youtu.be/jznxbDOD6vk?si=YxAuAApDjl04im8K
A lot of his longer form tracks are like this, more techno-y stuff with ambient sections that eventually builds to a breaks climax

>>126871822
No its this

>>126865650
It’s basically beat driven electronic music that you can’t mix with le wacky glitchy sound design and song structure

>>126874998
>beat driven electronic music that you can’t mix
except you can, you just suck at it. it's not easy like just mixing 4 on the floor techno, but if it were easy, it'd be called Your Mom.

>>126846560
I recommend reading Simon Reynold's writings about the hardcore continuum if you want to really get into it.

Jungle came first, emerging from breakbeat hardcore crossing over with dub/ragga/dancehall vibes. BPMs could be anything from 150-180, lots of amen breaks, reese bass and other samples

Some of that started coalescing into drum & bass, the production became more polished and musical, most of it tends to be 170-180bpm, and several subgenres and styles grew from that

>>126875751
You're relying quite a lot on "anything from" and "most of it tends to be" - except that it's not so tidy. What can be definitively said is that jungle comes first, and there is a tendency in it relative to drum and bass. Anything else can be easily defeated even during the earliest days.

>>126865650
IDM
https://youtu.be/s1iykK5RXIw

Techno
https://youtu.be/zqI77AUcjR8

>>126875774
it is hard to summarise with clearly defined parameters when the rulebook was being rewritten in real time at that point. There's no hard delineation between the two

>>126875899
what, no, the first one is dnb the second is electro house

>>126875982
>There's no hard delineation between the two
I agree with you

>>126875031
obviously you can mix any music but unlike basically all other types of dance music , idm isnt meant for mixing

https://youtu.be/bI7qUTStg8E?si=T0M4VEUQLrBDVXya
>>126846560
https://youtu.be/vDZHEAwDAVo?si=laInS1wO2CRkSMSD

>>126876277
skill issue
https://youtu.be/tcL0NlIPXd0?si=oCZ829HKMs_vxCyd

>>126876372
Have fun never getting booked and clearing the dancefloor every time you play your pussy repellent wanky music

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU TALKING ABOUT NU-METAL ANIME GIRLS LOVE NU-METAL

>>126876846
skill.
issue.
https://youtu.be/1yTIeANebtw?si=HgcEd6jmTlUsasW9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B00BRE8X0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0nDBAxQpXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQlNeV7FyLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-AbqjW1ptQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flf6dWy5O6M

>>126876940
UK bass isnt idm

>>126876299
I've always liked Foul Play but when pic related came out a few years ago and I saw a brief reivew saying all the tracks on it came out between 1992 and 93 I immediately thought that can't be right because they sounded too far ahead of their time, but it's absolutely true. Amazing producers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EVduRXj4JA

>>126846560
Jungle sounds more like a collage of samples, dnb sounds like drum and bass pattern are specifically made for the song

dnb be like: boom boom cap titty cap boom boom cap titty cap boom boom cap titty cap boom boom boom boom boom boo- bwaaaaaaaaghhh synth boom boom cap titty cap *jungle noises* yeaaaheeyeahh

pendulum btfo everything so badly that dnb zombified into dancefloor/jump up bollocks from hell and gay wankers trying to be le cool and do le vibes from le jungle days
but what pendulum is doing nowadays is pretty kekworthy

Is there any music actually as kino as picrel? I've tried listening to future sound of london, goldie, various other recs on this board but no one can touch his discography

>>126881777
Well there are a number of Luke vibert sets that Richard basically co-signed

https://archive.org/details/AphexTwinLukeVibert19970922USAWashingtonSeattle

https://youtu.be/4IdpodnXbls

>>126881946
he also has proper jungle sets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfFnygroia4

>>126846529 (OP)
yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ydm-QGVySg

>>126882437
fuck im got the wrong one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ydm-QGVySg

>>126882444
damn again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJHvedD9CP0

>>126881777
I don't even like richie's stuff that much but Im sorry to say, no one does his stuff quite like him.

https://soundcloud.com/arkeye/artist-series-02-sci-wax

>>126878886
I had some familiarity with dnb/jungle but it was going through Foul Play's entire catalog(their remixes too, some even consider them their actual best work) that really kickstarted this obsession.
Although John Morrow is my fav member of the group, theres a lot of evidence that suggests Steve Gurley was the genius behind their very best tracks, as a significant drop in overall quality is present after his departure.
https://youtu.be/d9FhbGHgrns?si=V9lZ6zoUWmYV6syh&t=297
^that track, specifically this portion was what made me realize I had stumbled upon something truly special.
Morrow and the illusive Gurley made a DJ mix not too long ago.
https://youtu.be/4InZGeQS1p8?si=3RJNtqdg1iZ5m9Lq
and they still got it!

>>126846529 (OP)
/mu/ has never been able to into Glitch. Why is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ3UouDs3UE

>>126862677

>>126886834
>no neurofunk
>no artcore
>100 gecs?
>yabujin?
>femtroonyl
>TOKYOSLOP
slop.

This album has one the ugliest album covers I’ve ever seen but the music is good.

>>126886834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44wZ-3d8-os
here's some proper, professionally made modern DnB.

>>126887348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY3GG-1EOIQ
Another hidden gem. waaayy better than femtanyl and sewerslvt, so-called "modern DNB" artists

>>126887348
cliche after cliche
soulless

>>126887393
you can tell a white person made this
sounds like an emo band trying to make D&B

>>126846529 (OP)
Is there a genre with bigger hipsters than dnb? The die hard fans hate literally all of the remotely popular artists

>>126880807
Pendulum is basically just electronic alt metal now
Barely different from Linkin Park

>>126887393
This is gay

>>126888075
Lol

>>126884986
>theres a lot of evidence that suggests Steve Gurley was the genius behind their very best tracks
I thought this was relatively well known. Steve Gurley also made some excellent UK Garage after he left Foul Play.

I didn't know they did a DJ set recently, I will definitely have to check that out. I also only found out somewhat recently that they are from Northampton, I had to work in Northampton for a year and god it was such a fucking shithole, kind of makes me laugh that in the early 90s you could live in that hellhole but could have ran in to Foul Play playing at some club.

>>126887293
I've seen this in so many dance lists and collections but everything about it is so fugly (the art, the font, the names) I think It'a always ended up rotting on the backburner lol

>>126887293
Surprised how well they pass as an aging tranny

>>126887348
nice

>>126887270
Artcore?

>>126886834
hi fellow breakcore sister(male)

garage had potential
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w77U9CT_PQ&list=RD3w77U9CT_PQ&start_radio=1

Basically the genre died when it ventured into technoid and crossbreed.
Because that meant that everything had been done and it could only push into more extreme territory, but how

DAWs killed all music

>>126896981
Correct.

>>126886834
>using spotify for dance music
OHNONONO

>>126897147
just 1 of those is better than half the trash you probs listen to lil bro

>>126884986
Not big on the lyrics desu

>>126854889
Hardcore isn't happy though it tends to be angry usually

I'm partial towards digital hardcore/pro-breakcore. The stuff that had a clear noise/industrial edge while not being as polished and spastic as the genre got in a post-Venetian Snares/Datach'i/Xanopticon era
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR-ATRktSc8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTOrHLgw2Jc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPNsc9AGk1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMJ9K32fyqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlfUKTKwUWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hu8emzdHHI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlPJrdnS98U

>>126846529 (OP)

Berlin School

>>126846529 (OP)
One of the few electronic genre where I liked more than 5 artists in it.

>>126846529 (OP)
Being the best EDN genre is like winning the special olympics. Sure you won a medal but you're still not music.

>>126871432
pacific state will simply not be topped, pick ur version but this is my fav https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpkx-E70FTk

>>126901337
It's one of those genres that gives me the autistic urge to dig up as many niche acts as I can find.

>>126846529 (OP)
Nah, progressive house and deep house from the 90s and early 2000s. Some goa trance from that time as well.

>>126901948
lame as shit

>>126901966
go back and eat your mothers poop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAtuQR-w-Jw

>>126897438
Please go back to instagram

>>126897438
I’m listening to genres you can’t pronounce on speakers you can’t afford with femboys you’ll never cuddle

>>126880807
I legit don't ear any significant differences between their latest stuff and hold your colour. Unless you meant their older stuff which sounds bad to me