Is doom metal just Black Sabbath larp, or is it more than that? - /mu/ (#126854720) [Archived: 713 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:04:37 PM No.126854720
castle rat
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:08:41 PM No.126854758
>>126854720 (OP)
Picrel is just husband and wife fantasy geek duo having fun.
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:09:41 PM No.126854767
>>126854720 (OP)
I don't know I only listen to death doom and funeral doom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKvlLswXxw
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:16:18 PM No.126854839
>>126854720 (OP)
Black Sabbath was never gay, so no
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:20:08 PM No.126854875
>>126854839
>tits are gay
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:05:25 PM No.126855395
>>126854720 (OP)
is there a name for this aesthetic in like pr0n
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:08:05 PM No.126855426
>>126855395
Only Euros make fantasy pr0n kino.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 9:19:25 PM No.126855602
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>>126854720 (OP)
No. Black Sabbath and similar 70s bands were retroactively called doom metal (or trad. doom) in the 80s.

Doom metal even by the time it was first coined had already moved on from black sabbath significantly.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:01:09 AM No.126857330
Doom metal too slow, death metal too fast, what do?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:07:43 AM No.126857357
>>126854720 (OP)

Every kind of metal is just a Black Sabbath LARP.
Without Sabbath there would be no metal at all, their influence is gigantic
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:13:37 AM No.126857405
>>126857357
Just because they set the ball in motion doesn't mean they can have credit for everything after the 1970's. It's like saying the first grain of sand on the ground comprises the entire desert. Many additions have been made.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:08:11 AM No.126857963
>>126857405

Weak comparison. Sands of grain aren't musicians.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:25:02 AM No.126858114
>>126857963
Not really. Unless Iommi himself wrote every single song on every single album then Black Sabbath can't really take any credit for other people's music.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:19:26 AM No.126858677
>>126854720 (OP)
how likely would doom metal have arisen on it's own if black sabbath never existed?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:49:58 AM No.126858910
High Tide - Sea Shanties
High Tide - Sea Shanties
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>>126858677
Probably likely? There's loads of heavy psych from the late 60s and early 70s that very clearly resemble doom metal.
Black Sabbath's only considered the first because they were the first to make an entire album with this sound instead of a track or two.

1969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpBCXof2qCc
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:54:27 AM No.126858945
>>126854720 (OP)
Doom metal is literally just "trying to sound as much like Black Sabbath as possible.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:18:50 AM No.126859132
>>126854720 (OP)
>ruby.foxfire on OF
Youโ€™re welcome
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:22:42 AM No.126859148
>>126857405
>>126858114
Ask the bands themselves and they'll tell you that metal owes EVERYTHING to Black Sabbath.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:33:32 AM No.126859223
Babylonian tonal system
Babylonian tonal system
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>>126859148
Just like Black Sabbath owes everything to the Babylonian tonal system. If we're going to do this childish neverending spiral downwards into autistic boredom then we might as well go back to the beginning.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:37:17 AM No.126859247
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:46:44 AM No.126859289
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>>126854720 (OP)
>Watch 1 interview with this girl
>Fall in love
Extreme QTpie. Shockingly unbased normiecore taste in /lit/ though. Eh.
To your question, no. Sabbath has enormous, massive, outsize influence on Doom and indeed on all Metal. (See >>126857357) But there's obviously been enough farther development that the Doom genre is no longer JUST "Sabbath worship". Indeed, I'd submit that plenty of contemporary Doom is more like "Sleep worship" or "Electric wizard worship", having developed for a full extra degree of separation from the genres' origin point. And of course extreme Doom (Thou, Chained to the Bottom of the Ocean) or "weird" off-Doom (Acid Witch) are a whole new fish again. And I think there's also psych, prog etc influences. Uriah Heep made an impact. Alan Parsons made an impact. Roky Erickson made an impact. Etc. I deeply love Doom too much to accept reductive origins, which feel unfairly dismissive.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:58:23 AM No.126859374
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>>126859132
AWOOGA
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:58:39 AM No.126859376
Riley Pinkerton
Riley Pinkerton
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>>126854720 (OP)
Doom metal? More like hairy metal.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:29:47 AM No.126859580
>>126857357
i donโ€™t think symphonic flower power metal is nearly that much of a sabbath larp (at least not the ozzy era; dio era maybe, but itโ€™s more dio than sabbath larp)

if weโ€™re talking about indirect influence, then yeah, sabbath influenced all metal, like how the beatles influenced all metal (without the beatles sabbath would not be a thing)
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:20:49 AM No.126859929
>>126859374
is that even legal?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:21:50 AM No.126859939
>>126854720 (OP)
do you guys know of any other bands where the female lead (or female musicians) are full-time scantily-clad
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:28:51 AM No.126859986
>>126857330
Don't be gay. Try death doom
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:56:19 AM No.126860254
>>126854720 (OP)
Doom Metal proper started in the '80s, a decade that bequeathed Tyrant (who later became Saint Vitus), Trouble, Death Row/Pentagram, Candlemass, Cirith Ungol, Witchfinder General and Pagan Altar. These bands can be safely considered the origin of Doom Metal.

As for something concrete, this is perhaps the best explanation for the genre I've heard:
>Imagine Black Sabbath's career were moving chronologically backwards. Let's start in the 70s here so we don't have to go through their entire back catalogue. Imagine "Vol. 4" was Black Sabbath's first album. Then "Master of Reality" is their second, "Paranoid" their third, and then the self-titled album is their fourth. Now imagine that the band Earth never existed, and instead of following up their now fourth album with whatever blues type of music Earth played you take the backwards development of the Black Sabbath style and spin it further into the unknown. Muddier, more inchoate, more protozoic and somewhat creepier with each passing album. Then, when you followed that backwards movement all the way to the eighth album (being some time in 1962 or so), you've arrived at Saint Vitus. All their influences reverse engineered to a form that would have existed in the early 1960s if heavy metal and doom metal had not evolved from rock music but came into being at zero metalness (but nothing else either) in 1950 and slowly but steadily grew more and more in metal content (without rock music or blues or any other form of music ever having any influence).
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:21:55 AM No.126862537
>>126858945
Only album I can think of where this is true is Electric Wizard's self-titled first album.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:46:33 AM No.126862649
>>126854758
>husband and wife
What? Isn't she a nepo baby porn whore?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:53:48 AM No.126862692
Its more, no way black sabbath could have created this monster.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9uxSdTwDTE
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:29:19 PM No.126865370
>>126859986
Death Doom, despite being a overlooked "crossover" genre, is really fucking good
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:35:46 PM No.126865444
>>126854720 (OP)
Funeral doom, drone doom and death/black doom exist so no
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:40:50 PM No.126865483
>>126859374
Booba
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:00:59 PM No.126865740
>>126859132
>>126859374
I like the armpit hair but what's the point of the ugly fake tits?
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:42:00 PM No.126866129
>>126859374
>>126859132
noice just found her simpcity thread, now if only anyone bought her vids and would be hero enough to upload them
lol her dad is a well known studio musician, wonder if anyone contacted him that his daughter was whoring herself out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCurry
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:47:29 PM No.126866188
>>126866129
>lol her dad is a well known studio musician, wonder if anyone contacted him that his daughter was whoring herself out
You really think he doesn't know? And that he didn't launch her "career"? Fuck I hate rich people.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:48:00 PM No.126866197
>>126866129
It sucks there's so much porn dumped on OnlyFans and it can just disappear because nobody noticed when an e-whore was active and the few simps that did weren't rich enough to buy the PPV or tech savvy enough to download it.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:11:07 PM No.126866425
>>126866197
>those oil vid previews
fuckkkkkkkk jesus
> $100: Video 3 - Oily Anal Orgasm (Dildo + Vibrator) (4:36)
need to see this
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:13:54 PM No.126866450
Yep
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:45:49 PM No.126866847
>>126860254
>Doom Metal proper started in the '80s, a decade that bequeathed Tyrant (who later became Saint Vitus), Trouble, Death Row/Pentagram, Candlemass, Cirith Ungol, Witchfinder General and Pagan Altar. These bands can be safely considered the origin of Doom Metal.
Correct. All good bands. Sabbath didn't go full blown doom until Dio joined. Fuck Pozzy.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:47:44 PM No.126866869
>>126866847
>Sabbath didn't go full blown doom until Dio joined.
bait or retardation. call it.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:49:43 PM No.126866892
>>126866869
grow some ears poser
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:50:14 PM No.126866896
https://gofile.io/d/F9U1zu
we need to pool together money and get these vids
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:32:58 PM No.126868083
>>126866896
>>126866425
Holy shit I thought she just did some topless modeling, she's an actual proper hardcore porn whore lmfao?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:37:29 PM No.126868124
>>126868083
>>126866896
Her OF is 404ing anyway. It's over.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:44:55 PM No.126868207
>>126868083
>>126868124
She's this generation's Honey Bane.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:46:04 PM No.126868218
>>126857330
Goove or slam.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:57:28 PM No.126868394
I just wanna see the vid of her sucking dick
dogshit band though
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:57:37 PM No.126868397
>>126866896
>>126859374
This shit kind of bums me out. She's hot and I normally support babes getting naked, but this kind of defuses the carefully constructed 70s mystique of her image. The girls on the cover of heavy metal magazine look that same way, but they don't EXPLICITLY fingerblast themselves on camera. You're just supposed to imagine it. Making it real makes it less sexy.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:17:25 PM No.126868635
>>126868397
Yeah it's pathetic. I was actually shilling for this band even though it's basically an AI-made copy of a past style because I thought she was hot and I like hairy girls, but now that I saw she is an actual subhuman piece of shit I'm going to do a full 180 and trash them everywhere.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:21:10 PM No.126868674
>>126868635
you pearl-clutching incels are so weird
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:40:11 PM No.126868903
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>>126854720 (OP)
Yes, what one seeks in doom, they find. You want it to be a LARP of "Black Sabbath", so that is what stand out to you
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:13:52 AM No.126870024
>>126868674
So are you dog-fucking castrati.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:16:08 AM No.126870042
>>126870024
i have no idea what you just said. proofread your posts before submitting please
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:54:28 AM No.126870469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl5xvesfsUs
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:01:16 AM No.126870526
>>126868635
Based anon with principles
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:09:56 AM No.126871495
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>>126859374
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:50:34 AM No.126871780
>>126859132
>page not found
what did you retards do?
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:33:25 AM No.126872062
>>126871780
She deleted it a while back. This thread didn't have much to do with it.