Osamason still has the best rap album of 2025 so far

>>126869927 (OP)
Haven't listened to Osama much prefer Ken Carson honestly. Haven't listened to Jumpout yet (actively listening to it now) but I feel like his voice is kinda generic and carried by his beats

>>126872538
I'm with you on that but Ken's voice and delivery is really grating and gets on my nerves, plus Osama has better beats even if his performances are generic.

>>126869927 (OP)
Jesus, fuck off my board with this shit. No wonder people post "not music". There is not a single redeemable quality in this "music". Do you have ears of an 8 year old?

>>126875830
Unc is mad

>>126872538
Osamason has really good production

NOT MUSIC

>>126875942
I'm not mad I just wanted you to know you should be ashamed of yourself for your infentile music taste.

>>126876006
the old head mind simply can’t comprehend Osamason, you probably think Carti is trash too so your opinion is invalid. You’re old, crusty and out of touch.

>>126876064
you laugh now zalpha but it'll happen to you too

>>126876064
>you probably think Carti is trash too so your opinion is invalid.
Carti being your litmus test is truly sad. Tell me, why do you like Carti? Can't be the lyrics because the lyrics in this kind of rap is interchangeable, literally meaningless. Can't be the production because Cartis whole production shtick was stolen from better artists whilst also being incredibly generic. So its just the "vibe" isn't it? Braindead zoom zoom.

>>126876124
>muh lyrics
lmao this unc listens to backpack rap, who the hell did Carti steal his production from? He was the one that put Pierre Bourne on the forefront. please name an album that self titled stole from?
you don’t know shit about rap lil bra.

>>126869927 (OP)
Let me guess, bass boosted and high pitched autotune shit? Same as everything else?

>>126876163
You didn't answer my question zoom zoom. What is it about Carti that you like? Simple question.

Its generic trap beats man, come on. Its sounds the exact same as every other SoundCloud rapper beat, nothing new. Which most likely came from southern rap, Three 6, shit like that. I have my doctorate in rap buddy, you can't even touch me on my rap knowledge.

>>126876198
Lmao so you’re a Memphis rap boomer who refuses to move on. First off you fucking retard, Carti’s music is nothing like Memphis rap.
He isn’t using fast triplet flows in his songs, his production isn’t sample based. He doesn’t have a horrorcore, Lo-fi vibe.

How are Location, Magnolia, Wokeuplikethis generic trap beats? they might sound generic in 2025 because the whole industry copied him and milked the Pierre Bourne sound dry after self titled came out.

I like Carti because rap is ultimately about the swag, energy and production it brings. Carti is very talented at picking the right beats, which is imo one of the most important aspects to a rapper. it’s a genre that prioritizes the partying and charisma on a track, you got fooled by the lyrical miracle idiots on what rap is. rap has never been that, it’s always been at the forefront party music.

>>126876302
>Lmao so you’re a Memphis rap boomer who refuses to move on. First off you fucking retard, Carti’s music is nothing like Memphis rap.
>He isn’t using fast triplet flows in his songs, his production isn’t sample based. He doesn’t have a horrorcore, Lo-fi vibe
Clearly you are a zoomer with 0 reading comprehension. That southern rap is 75 percent trash first off. Second, the production is all I was talking about. Thats pretty clear.


That whole second paragraph is cope bud and I am not going to engage someone who thinks fucking Carti was the pioneer of trap beats. That is completely asinine.

>I like Carti because rap is ultimately about the swag, energy and production it brings
And there it is, the core of what I am saying.
>rap has never been that, it’s always been at the forefront party music.
You are truly braindead man, truly. That simply isn't true. Unless you are talking about the 80s, the breaks and shit, but even then that isn't true. I can't believe you have the gull to say I was fooled by lyrical rappers, like that is some sort of insult. The lyrics are the most important part of any rap song, thats a fact. There is little to nothing else that makes rap truly unique. The later 2000s is when that started to change, and we ended up where we are at now. People thinking the "vibe" of a track is the hinge pin of a good song. Christ rap has fallen so far.

>>126876460
If lyrics were so important in the 90s, why did Illmatic take 5 years to go gold? It’s always been about the sound at the end of the day, and Carti’s sound is way more innovative than any shitty backpack rapper trying to do the lyrical miracle style. Like most of three 6 mafias lyrics are just as mindless and brain dead as Carti’s, people like it because they like the gritty production and the flows. The same way I like Carti’s cloud rap and swag oriented sound. Notice how you can’t name any album that Carti ripped off, cause if you actually listened then you can easily tell that Carti’s sound is way different from generic Atlanta trap that was coming out at the time.

>>126869927 (OP)
who?

>>126876790
>If lyrics were so important in the 90s, why did Illmatic take 5 years to go gold?
This is your argument? Illmatic didn't go gold fast enough so lyrics don't matter? Are you retarded anon? So take KRS-One, the teacha. A true MC, but I doubt you even know the niggas name let alone his music. What about Run DMC? Grandmaster flash? The fucking Beastie Boys? Not all rap has to be some lyrical miracle, but the best rap can produce is. How many times can you listen to a rapper either selling coke, fucking my bitch, or partying? Don't you start to recognize the pattern and eventually grow out of it? Maybe your brain just needs to develop past liking straight up ignorant nigger music.

Again, your reading comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired. I said 75 percent of that rap is trash, and I was including three 6. I completely agree with you, its mindless trap beats with meaningless lyrics. If you can't concede that his beats are the exact same shit as a random trap artist or the SoundCloud rappers, you are disingenuous. But either way, I don't care. Production doesn't make a good song. My main point is the importance of lyrics with the beats, you can't have one without the other if you want to call a song a good rap song.

>Carti’s sound is way more innovative than any shitty backpack rapper
Shame on you anon. Shame for a thousand years.

Aesop Roc just dropped a new album this year and its fantastic. Go listen to that album and come back here and tell me what you think. Or don't, but its your loss.

>>126876997
You've written a lot more than the zoomer did, but honestly you're not being persuasive.
>it’s a genre that prioritizes the partying and charisma on a track, you got fooled by the lyrical miracle idiots on what rap is. rap has never been that, it’s always been at the forefront party music.
The above is a simple, factually true statement about rap going back before Grandmaster Flash - which, while providing "the message," began their record with She's Fresh, and most other of those songs were party songs. Rap encompassed many different goals, but he is flatly correct about the throughline - regardless of whether or not you were persuaded that this genre has something more cerebral about it.
>How many times can you listen to a rapper either selling coke, fucking my bitch, or partying?
And this is an especially silly question. The answer is about 5 decades worth of people, and the grand majority of them listening now, in the 2010s, in the 2000s, in the 1990s, and you can fill in the rest.

@grok whats this thread about

never heard of him
but I bet it sounds like every other rap album released in the last 5 years

It's all the same Future/Young Thug slop.

>>126869927 (OP)
the bar is low

ninja er said go listen to aesop rock lmaaogghaau

>>126877639
Aesop Rock rulz thoughbeit

>>126869927 (OP)
Clipse dropped a way littyer album (as you thong wearing mumbling faggots like to say)

>>126877496
Alright thats fine, ill concede that. In raps infancy it started as just party music, I still don't agree but I'll give it to you. Until Big Daddy Kane, generally speaking, elevated it to an actual art form. So what, maybe three years? Ill give that to you, sure. Still doesn't take away from one of my points being how important lyrics are and were in the genre.

I don't see how that is a silly statement anon, but it is whatever.

>>126877639
At least have the balls to reply to me instead of throwing it into the aether dummy.

>>126877532

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5R59EIEXLA&t=71s

Holy shit it's even worst than I thought

>>126877510
Osamason is a rapper from Atlanta,Georgia inspired by artists like Playboi Carti and Ken Carson

With tranformative experimental "rage" beats its no surprise he has had such a rapid rise to fame

>>126878704
he sounds absolutely retarded

>>126876997
> How many times can you listen to a rapper either selling coke, fucking my bitch, or partying? Don't you start to recognize the pattern and eventually grow out of it? Maybe your brain just needs to develop past liking straight up ignorant nigger music.

How many times can you listen to the same thesaurus rap with the same cadence in every song?
You can cope however you want but beats have always the number one thing you should look for a rap song. Production is the most important aspect of what makes a good song, the reason why the Chronic and 2001 are considered some of the greatest rap albums of all time is solely because of its crust production. You don’t turn on that record to listen to Dr Dre rap.

>>126878817
What the fuck are you talking about? You can't tell me Eminem, Deru The Damaja, GZA, RA the Rugged Man, Big L, The BIG have the same cadence or flow. Those are just the popular ones so we can discuss. You are arguing in bad faith. Or you don't have the intelligence to recognize that you are. Either way, you are retarded.

It isn't cope when you are objectively wrong anon. If you just cared about beats listen to an instrumental tape. But do you do that? Probably not. Because you can't take the lyrics from rap and have it be a whole product.

>Chronic and 2001 are considered some of the greatest rap albums of all time
They are not the greatest rap albums. I don't listen to either of those albums because Dre is ass. For discussion sake, ill give you 5, not necessarily my top 5 but for arguments sake it will do.
>Ready to Die
>36 Chambers
>MMM.. Food
>The Predator Ice Cube
>Digable Planets Blowout Comb
>The Untouchable Scarface
Now, are you really going to sit there and tell me these albums are even close in similarity? 2 of them are from NY at that dude. Honestly the fact you chose those two albums says something about your rap knowledge, child.

Not too mention the skill involved in rhyming like a lyrical miracle. There is 0 skill in choosing beats and coming up with lyrics for said beats. Basically 0 so you don't hinder on that point. Why do you think so many SoundCloud rappers came in went with the exact style Carti has? Because its brain dead to do.

>>126876124
>>126876198
music is art art is based off of the feeling it gives you so yeah the vibe is important. Acting like it's a fucking math problem and there's a right and wrong way to do shit

>>126879179
Ah yes the "its art bro, its whatever you want it to be." Give me a break. I'm not saying its a math problem, but the vibe you idiots care so much about is shit. What do you get from Cartis music? What vibe exactly? Too me, its trap beats with some retard talking. Increase aggression, decrease sadness, increase sadness, decrease aggression.

>>126879471
But as someone who obviously cares a lot about rap, don't you think you're being obtuse? For example, confidence and swagger - mentioned above I think - has gone through different styles, and I think you'd have to be really ungenerous to totally not see it in the new guys. You may not like it as much or at all, but I don't believe you don't see it or understand it.

>>126879540
You are 100 percent correct, I was being obtuse, good word. I do see it in the young guys, Suicide Boys is a group I enjoy from time to time. The raw energy of the new school trumps the old school, no doubt about it. But the thing that bugs me is the way that energy is channeled. Take Gravediggaz, they had that sort of kill em energy, but it was soaked in the "real rap" style. I hate to call it real rap because its dismissive, but whatever. Gravediggaz still had lyrical skill, beats too match.

Carti has the aggressive energy, Scott is another one, Suicide Boys, but only Suicide Boys pays homage to "real rap". And even they just bit Bone Thugs flow, but that is evolution of music and I understand that. The new school seems to be devolving into the most basic part of what rap is, from the beats, to the lyrics, to the themes. That is what I am trying to fight against. Everybody had their club hits, Big Papa, Mo Money Mo Problems (which is a terrible song), but they still had that old school flavor.

Rap lyrics are the only thing that makes rap unique, I guess in terms of "vibe". Metal trumps rap in aggression, punk even does too. Jazz trumps just to "chill" or "beats to study to". You could name any genre for a feeling of sadness. If you want to feel like your cock is 14 inches big, there isn't a better genre than rap, I will say that. But that is besides my point, raps totally unique in the fact that the lyrics have to be done in rhyme, and you can't just say the same shit over and over. The new school is breaking those rules though. This paragraph is more subjective than anything I have said before, wanted to mention that.

Now is this raps fault? No, I put the blame mostly on rap fans who didn't autsiticaly rage about the shit that is coming out today, like I am now.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Here is a picture with my wall of text.

>>126869927 (OP)
fuck off and kill yourself wigger faggot

>>126879867
I know what you mean, though I detect a little more nuance. You see clearly a large group influenced by way more stuff, way beyond city or block limits (for better or worse - and even then, sometimes mixed together like in Baltimore or Chicago), found on the internet. I see more of these guys getting back into things like skate culture, and even though maybe the sounds are very different, the throughline here is the way the attitude is inflected. Anyway, it's complicated, and I'm not one to speak in depth about it because I haven't really listened much to rap in a good long time, but from afar that's what I'm looking at and there's basically something interesting it in when compared to old days.

>>126869927 (OP)
No, it sucked imo. Oxmo Puccino's Lafiya Sessions is where the good shit's at.

not music