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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:41:53 PM No.126923989
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>watching video essays about classical music you don't listen to
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:45:34 PM No.126924057
which ones
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:46:12 PM No.126924073
lol
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:53:11 PM No.126924167
>>126923989 (OP)
Based
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:09:16 PM No.126925162
I wish there were video essays on extreme metal theory.

I only know of https://youtu.be/9-tLCMoaqf8
and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90cTzZ0bXqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9AmPp_VtZ8

but the rest from his channel are prog quirk chungus metal that goes over my head. He has a PhD in all that, well done to the guy.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:23:02 PM No.126925310
>>126925162
Radio Free Innsmouth and Terminus: Extreme Metal Podcast are more informal and not fluent in music theory language, but you may like them for metal analysis beyond the superficial.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:29:44 PM No.126925373
>>126925310
Will check them out, thanks for the rec.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:41:08 PM No.126925487
>>126923989 (OP)
Watched Samuel Andreyev's video on Sibelius's 7th, fucking incredible piece of music.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 12:24:04 AM No.126925852
24 year olds with zero life experience need to feel mature and sophisticated somehow
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 1:46:07 AM No.126926488
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>>126923989 (OP)
>Listening to the same recording of the same classical piece over and over again, to appreciate it in all its nuances and in a depth you never will
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 5:56:25 AM No.126928421
Active listening, always.
>>126926488
this but brutal death metal
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 6:28:33 AM No.126928600
>>126926488
nigga you can do this with prog/prog metal too
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 6:38:36 AM No.126928667
>>126925487
Just listened to this symphony on your recommendation and I don't know what to make of it. It sounds almost schizophrenic to me, the rhythms are all disjointed and its like an amorphous mass of atmopshere. And it begins with this kind of dramatic slow funereal thing it has in no way earned

I will listen to it again but idk. What do you like about it?
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 6:58:05 AM No.126928773
I sincerely wish we could send wojaks, frogs and that black/white homoerotic gigachad shit to a single board and toss a global rule against all of it
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 7:36:22 AM No.126929017
>>126928773
You will never be an oldfag.
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 9:21:38 AM No.126929691
>>126928421
>this but brutal death metal
That's just superficial pop slop though. There is no form nor harmony. Fuck off retard.
>>126925162
>being stuck in metalshite phase
Many such cases. At least you have a sign of intelligence.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:41:02 AM No.126930183
>>126928667
I actually had the same reaction the first time I heard it: I didn't know what to make of it either. But after a few more listens, it slowly grew on me. In fact, your description of it as "schizophrenic" and an "amorphous mass of atmosphere" is actually kind of apt. The form is absolutely singular. People often compare it to a painting or photograph where colors blend into one another with no sharp outlines, more like a foggy, cold landscape in the mountains than a clear image in focus.

Themes don't enter with conventional preparation, and they rarely develop in a predictable way. They come and go organically, almost imperceptibly. It feels like the kind of material Mahler might have stretched across 70-90 minutes, but Sibelius condenses it into just over 20 minutes. No filler.

I love the recurring horn theme (apparently connected to his wife) which appears three or four times. For me, those moments evoke vast Nordic forests and the middle of a snowstorm, or something remote and elemental like that. I also like the timpani parts, the wind passages; they're all part of that distinctly Scandinavian/Nordic orchestral style.

What draws me to it now is how unique it is. The form still puzzles people today. Some say it's a precursor to "process music", like what late 20th century composers explored, where music unfolds from a single idea without literal repetition and feels like it's being spontaneously generated. But the difference is that Sibelius's musical language is Romantic, and that makes it far more compelling to me than the cold, experimental sound worlds of much later composers. I love this kind of synthesis: formally modern, but emotionally Romantic.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 3:26:39 PM No.126931885
>>126923989 (OP)
based
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 5:03:55 PM No.126932695
>>126929691
Not everyone enjoys extreme metal, it's always going to be a niche thing. Not everyone likes the themes of evil, the tritone, dark diminished/exotic scales, dissonance, and machine gun drumming, if you try learning a Cannibal Corpse song on guitar you'll find out how rich it is musically, time signature/rhythm changes, groove, catchiness, and many other elements I can't speak to yet. it's quite the opposite of pop, which usually has two hooks, come on dude. The more I learn about theory the more complex it all seems and I appreciate it more.

>There is no form nor harmony
It's not all chromatic scales (except for maybe Slayer). That's not the music written by Alex Webster who has published a book on theory, Pat O'Brien who's a maestro, Erik Rutan and Trey respectively, there's a reason they're at the top. They all understand form and harmony perfectly well.

See for yourself, behind the wall of sound there's a lot of substance.
https://youtu.be/HKY2BFEBqHE?t=90

Having said that that's not stopping me from enjoying the intricacies of other more palatable genres or classical even once in a blue moon.

https://youtu.be/9nYTORmXcGQ
How beautifully sad and sinister this is.
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 8:34:45 PM No.126934946
what are some video essays
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:07:12 PM No.126936490
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>performing video essays about classical music you've never listened
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:23:15 PM No.126936689
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>watching video essays
Anonymous
7/5/2025, 11:07:15 PM No.126937504
>>126930183
Very nice explanation, ty
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 12:03:40 AM No.126938495
>>126932695
>the tritone, dark diminished/exotic scales, dissonance
Except metal rarely employs those. LOL. And when it does, it's always labeled something like avant-garde. Speaks volumes about metalcucks's average IQ.
>machine gun drumming,
An inherent flaw of metal.
>you'll find out how rich it is musically
LOL. Rich in parallelisms and similar sloppisms. It is quite the same as pop. In fact, it is more pop than most pop. Cannibal corpse is more pop than Kate Bush, literally.
>The more I learn about theory
You don't know shit about theory if you can't write a chorale. Even then, you're barely scartching a surface.
>They all understand form and harmony perfectly well.
No they cannot writen a single coherent musical phrase without making a mistake. They don't know anything about harmony. They just play random stuff and record whatever sounds good to their inexperienced ear.
>See for yourself
I've seen enough.
>or classical even once in a blue moon.
I can tell you've never once in your life seriously listened to classical music.

Classical can be more sinister, more heavy and more expressive all at the same time, while not being a monotonic bore made by illiterate "musicians". You are literally clueless.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 12:08:42 AM No.126938576
>>126929691
Classicalfags always give metalfags and jazzfags a run for their money when it comes to pretentiousness and smugness