.

>>126930476 (OP)
based babykiller

>>126930476 (OP)
"Used to get pregnant all the time" is a hilarious sentence in a comedy context.
It being a serious statement is a great example of how far we've degenerated.

You'd be surprised. A woman told me she never uses condoms and I was like WOT. They just use the pullout method like its the 1700s

>>126930476 (OP)
abortion should be that casual.

hey honey, how was your day?
>oh you know, nothing special. went to work, got stuck in traffic, ate some leftover spaghetti for lunch, spoke to cassandra from marketing, left a little early, got another abortion, went to the bank, picked up some groceries, blah blah blah. boring stuff really

>>126930476 (OP)
I’d be lying if I said I cared. And if the Catholics are right, then I guess I’ll get my comeuppance for this (and a whole lot more) in hell. But honestly I doubt it.

>>126930493
women used to get pregnant a lot more, and her attitude isnt new either

Lily is England's national treasure

>>126930476 (OP)
this bitch literally had sex with liam gallagher on a plane while he was married

Isn’t she a cokehead

>>126930538
>a lot more
More than a number so high that she lost count?

Also, the mere high number isn't why it's funny. It's the contrast between something normally very serious and life-changing like pregnancy, and how frivolously it's worded, like "I used to go to the lake all the time" as if it's not something that people make a massive deal out of it happening once.
A similar juxtaposition could be "I used to fracture my skull all the time", or "I used to get my house destroyed by earthquakes all the time" or "I used to get kidney transplants all the time", etc.

>>126930498
With the same long-term monogamous partner, or with casual hookups?

are they implying she's barren now or what

>>126930511
You don't have to be Catholic to think mudering babies is wrong.
And yes life does begin at conception. That is the scientific truth of when life begins. Anyone claiming otherwise or trying to claim that is a religious belief is promoting anti-science bullshit for their own politial agenda.

>>126930493
sic semper catholics

>>126930909
Murdering babies is wrong if it's a normal baby in normal circumstances.
If it's the son of a whore who can't raise him and literally doesn't want to, then not killing that baby is a disservice to society.
Look at the abortion rates for all the most undesirable demographics. Imagine if those millions of kids weren't aborted and were allowed to grow up into the scum they're inevitably going to be (children of single moms are much less likely to do well in school and more likely to become criminals)... Our society would be noticeably worse.

What you're saying is equivalent to "killing dog puppies is wrong", which is correct in general, but there's a difference between killing golden retriever puppies (pointless and evil) and killing pitbull puppies (your civic duty).

>>126930909
catholics are the ones driving abortions through their inexplicable ban on contraception. Lily Allen is a catholic

>>126930994
this makes zero sense. in Britain and the USA, Lilly Allen can easily get an abortion, despite the disapproval of Catholics.

>>126930994
this makes zero sense. in Britain and the USA, women can easily get both contraception abortion, despite the disapproval of some Catholics.

>>126930476 (OP)
Women were worthy of respect and love when their deranged urges were kept in check by tradition and law. Now that they're "emancipated" their demonic side is full frontal, with baby killing urges being a particular cherry on top. It's vile, and I don't think men will be able to view women as human and worthy of love and respect even if we suddenly took away the women's rights now. The blackpill cannot be taken back. Most of these whores deserve nothing but death. Blood is the only way they can cleanse their image, and even then at least two generations have to pass until it all settles down.

>>126931291
You're right but modern men are just as deranged and have the same ideas and behaviors (many times it's the guy making the girl have the abortion because he doesn't want to be a father).
It's not a female problem, it's a cultural issue of a gradually increased normalization of anything related to sexuality, from sleeping around, to LGBT stuff, to weird fetishes, to now "MAPs".
The more a man or a woman believes in these modern "woke" ideologies (such as feminism, critical theory, etc) the more they're deranged in the way they live their sexuality, and the more traditional they are, the less deranged and more normal their sexuality is.
It's no coincidence that most of these deranged women used to be good girls until they went to college (where these ideas get propagated by both students and professors), got their head filled with ideology, and became complete degenerates within the first semester.

>>126930617
in that case an abortion is fully justified

>>126930617
who cares

>>126930476 (OP)
Imagine hundreds of different male sperm cells presently living and propagating in her spinal column.

>>126931510
hell yeah dude

i have mixed views on this, because while the biological and moral arguments are both unified and obvious, i know deep down if it was men who were the ones who got pregnant, or if babies were produced from literally just leaving cum in a dish and letting grow into a person, men would still masturbate, men would still not give a fuck and do it anyway. men hate it because it weakens men in the gender dynamics, not because they care about babies.

so yes, it's disgusting, and yes, misogynist men who say it's disgusting are right; but it's an "a broken clock is right twice a day" kind of right.

>>126931592
>men hate it
Only a small portion of right-wing men.
Most men out there are happy to pay for their girl's abortion when they don't want to suddenly make their lives much harder with an unplanned pregnancy.

>>126930909
Life begins there, but there is no sentience at that point.

>>126931592
My eldest was literally a youngish 'mistake' and i insisted we have it. Never had a second of doubt or regret. It just made finishing uni a bit of a nightmare and I had to defer a year.

>>126931767
>it
dude

>>126931767
nice, stories like these are why I come to your blog. HEY WAIT A MINUTE!

>>126930988
Yes, good point. The pitbulls should be aborted but Golden Retrievers should be kept.

>>126931980
Some times golden retriever parents grew up in rat-infested cities alongside pitbulls, so they got influenced into adopting those same behaviors and their children will grow up to be as destructive as the pitbulls they learned from, so even if they still have the good golden retriever genes, they will effectively be pitbulls and it's better to abort them until the parents get properly trained and are finally able to have the golden retrievers we know and love, free of the influence of the two aforementioned undesirable animals.

>>126930988
She was a nepo baby millionaire who ciuld have given 10 kids a better life than 99% or the planet and see them once a year. She killed them because she didn't want any loss of image from being a mother or being a poor mother and the impact on her 3/10 body.

Killing a baby because it will have an atrocious life might be acceptable but her reasons were literally 100% superficial ego killings.

>>126932089
* that said im generally a supporter of eugenics so although i think it's evil it's a net benefit for humans if people like her kill more of her own children

>>126932089
Money isn't the only factor. She's a mindbroken spoiled whore who's very unlikely to raise a good kid.
If abortion wasn't an option and she was forced to raise a kid she didn't want, chances are that she'd have done a terrible job raising him, especially as a single mother.

>because it will have an atrocious life
It's not just to save the baby from suffering. It's also (and mostly, in my view) to shield the world from babies that would then grow up and contribute negatively to the world.

What I'm saying isn't only about this woman specifically, but about the concept of abortion in general, which statistically applies to non-rich women much more than it does to the rich ones.

I don't think abortions are themselves a good thing and in an ideal world they would never happen (and never need to happen), but unfortunately in our society most of the kids being aborted are a situation in which them not getting aborted is worse for everyone, so abortions are the least bad option.

Chavs don't believe in birth control.

didn't stevie nicks say something similar about having a lot of abortions? i wonder how many potential little musicians she got rid of

>>126931291
yk about 15% of pregnancies miscarry in the first trimester, that's why people often keep the news private for the first couple months, losing a fetus in that stage just isn't some great tragedy, women can miscarry and not even know it, not even know they were pregnant yet. there's really no telling how often women miscarry before implantation, and that takes a week or two after fertilization(conception), such a small thing that women don't even know it happened, i don't get how this can be some great tragedy, no investment, no consciousness not even on the level of fucking bug yet. you don't arrive at these crazy conclusions without religion let's just be real

>>126930909
naw i remember reading about mass graves of newborns in rome and shit, it's enforcing that the babies are kept that is new. other animals abandon or eat the babies they can't care for too

>>126932106
My argument is not even eugenics (although the eugenic component is probably a positive). I'm not saying that those people should never reproduce. I'm just saying that if they want an abortion they're probably at a point in their life where, for whatever reason (income, family, unstable or absent relationship, etc) they're unlikely to successfully raise a future productive member of society.
If they get it together in the future and are in a stable relationship and whatnot, I'm all for them having a kid.

>>126932251
Women are regularly traumatized by first trimester miscarriages, you specifically keep it quiet because of how horrible but common it is.

Reminder

>>126932276
She wasn't in that position, she had enough cash and assistants from day one those kids would be great. Frankly it doesn't really matter if she saw them much at all, that part of childhood is wildly overstated for outcomes. She could give them good food and security and they would be 100% fine. Which again makes her motives only selfish, so feeds more into it being a good she didn't propogate herself.

>>126932282
That's if they're attached to the baby they think they're going to have.
Even if it never really materialized, the mental toll of losing something so precious to you is still significant (kinda like losing a winning lottery ticket you haven't cashed in yet).
If the baby isn't wanted in the first place, the same trauma isn't necessarily going to happen (like losing a ticket that you didn't want in the first place because you're a hippie who hates money or something).
I don't think the lady in the OP had any trauma other than maybe from the fear of pregnancy which got relieved by the abortions.

>>126932316
I disagree. Money isn't everything, and also she's an exception and far from the situations surrounding the typical abortion.
See >>126932174 for the full version of this

>>126932311
In other words, they're mostly whores who got pregnant accidentally and shouldn't be allowed to have a baby.

LILY ALLEN WAS A POSHFAG WHO LARPED AS A CHAV AND LIVED IN A COUNCIL FLAT FOR 3 WEEKS TO GAIN 'CRED'

>>126932342
I never said money was the focus. Kids need three things to succeed: good genes, nutrition and security. The latter two don't require *that* much money and assistants can deliver it if you don't care to, but obviously that does cost.

Assuming someone like her isn't going to think she has bad genes and it would be a benefit to humanity for her to kill her line then she has no valid reasons to abort.

wtf i love lily allen now

the grim truth /pol/ won't admit is that more than half of all abortions are the result of the boyfriend/husband pressuring the chick to get rid of it

>>126932421
So what

>>126932282
only when they were trying for a baby and knew they were preggers and got all excited and shit, this is why people tell them not to get too excited until they're through the first trimester

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/lily-allen-the-girl-grows-up-6096151.html

What a dishonest repulsive industry plant. She went to a £60k a year private school the king went to but acted like she was selling big issues. Had music magazine covers before her first single. Fawning paid interviews. And what does she use that all for? Doing coke and stabbing her babies in the head.

>>126932439
So it's just what he said. /pol/ thinks is solely evil roasties who aborts babies because something white genocide.

>>126932379
Not true. They also need a parent who's able to raise them properly, make them do the right things and prevent them from going in the wrong direction and succumbing to the negative influences everywhere.
This is FAR more important than the three things you mentioned and is the main reason why poor kids don't succeed in life at the same rate as non-poor kids (poor people tend to be uneducated and retarded, so their kids never get proper parents), but poor kids with non-retarded parents who raise them well have high social mobility and do fine in life.
It's exactly why kids raised by single mothers do worse than everyone else (including equally poor kids raised by two parents, and single-dad households) in every metric. Women, on average, can't raise kids by themselves no matter how much money they have for nannies or whatever. Kids need a father figure to put them in line, and no woman or "assistant" is going to provide that. Maybe if she sends them to a strict boarding school she can sidestep the problem, but most people aren't going to do that.
An accidental pregnancy by a single woman is unlikely to result in a productive member of society no matter what.

Also, you keep ignoring the fact that this is an exception and not the typical situation that you can form your view on abortion on.
I don't give a shit about Lilly Allen and am not defending her.
I'm simply talking about abortions in general.

>>126932421
No source given obviously. Men are consistently more against abortion than women. Im also the guy above who insisted we keep a baby I had with a now ex in uni. Not that she pushed to abort but she raised it as an option where I wouldn't.

>>126932464
Do you have a source for your made up statistics?

>>126932557
>Men are consistently more against abortion than women
No source given obviously

>>126932563
>>126932557
you know when you say sauce please it means you're calling him a liar, right?

>>126932421
>Male loneliness epidemic cause of rise in abortions
oh yes I can see the headlines already

>>126932464
yeah who fucking cares?? it’s still ultimately a woman’s choice to voluntarily end a pregnancy. they are 100% responsible for 100% of voluntary abortions.

>>126932548
Poor kids do poorly because they have bad genes with things like low impulse control, low IQ, violent dispositions. As someone with kids I can say it doesn't really cost that much to get what matters.

There have been endless lottery or adoption studies showing giving the kids of poor people more money doesn't improve outcomes whatsoever. Parents of single mothers don't do poorly because dad's not there, they don't do well because they have the genes of a single mother and a shithead dad. Again these kids are still fucked when adopted at birth.

If you want i can get deep into this discussion but im literally stuck with one of my kids napping right now so would need my computer.

>>126932577
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

>>126932601
a friend of mine worked at a county jail. most habitual criminals are functionally retarded and have double digit IQs, most are illiterate or close to it.

>>126932601
I don't think you understand what we're arguing about.
I'm agreeing with you on money not being the biggest factor (it's the whole point of my post) and on genes being a very strong influence.
I'm just saying that being raised by a single mother is so incredibly bad for raising a child that even with good genes their kids end up being way more fucked up in every way than if they had two parents.
The same life-destroying influence applies to people with all sorts of genes.
Bad genes + two parents = possible decent life
Bad genes + single mom = almost certainly terrible life

Genes are important but can't override a woman having no authority over her kid and letting them degenerate into fucked up adults instead of guiding them towards the right path.
A child with even the best genes (good/bad genes is an oversimplification but let's ignore that for the sake of the discussion) isn't going to know what's right on their own until it's way too late, and with a bad influence they won't have a chance to use those genes productively.

>>126932616
>64% vs 61%
KEK

>>126930909
>That is the scientific truth of when life begins.
thats not how science works. That is the scientific truth of how science works.
> Anyone claiming otherwise or trying to claim that is a religious belief is promoting anti-science bullshit for their own politial agenda.
making claims without evidence & threatening people who disagree IS how religion works.

Based, polcels malding as usual

>>126932311
Many of the ones triggered by the first and third list items would be reported as "No Reason" since the woman may be getting the abortion under duress, may feel social pressure/embarrassment, and/or to intentionally avoiding encounters with law enforcement that may be required if reported accurately. Local laws may also impose additional confidentiality limits around the way abortions performed on minors can be reported, leading to them being over-represented in the "No Reason" category.

This is why you can't blindly accept self-reported stats like a retard and you need to consider context.

>>126932745
reddit

I’m pro-abortion because the vast majority of them are niggers and liberals

why should any woman listen to moralfagging moids? moids are the most corrupted creatures on this planet, it's clear they just want to control sexual reproduction and lower their reproductive anxiety by taking rights away from women

>>126932745
>>126932311
you don't need to have a reason to have abortion it's just a choice

>>126932776
only person with a brain itt. The demographics that get the most abortions are the people who SHOULDN'T procreate in the first place.

>>126932745
Lrgendary cope

>>126932906
The point has already been made multiple times above

>>126932874
Not the point. The left constantly cites extreme medical outliers when debating, which is intellectually dishonest given the real data. They will argue to death that women don’t use abortions as birth control, when that’s exactly what they do.

>>126932864
Are moids older women?

>>126930476 (OP)
Bogged and walled

Lily Allen has had boon jobs done and is on ozempic so she can get attention from the media and men again.

Lily Allen has had boob jobs done and is on ozempic so she can get attention from the media and men again.

1 Corinthians 6:19-20

I guess they won't also admit that 75% of women who get abortions are black and that Planned Parenthood deliberately opens abortion clinics in black neighborhoods as a form of eugenics.

>>126932089
>She was a nepo baby millionaire

nepo yes, millionaire no

dad was a c-list actor that left them
mum was from a pov family that someone ended up in film -probably because of connections from the dad

>>126930476 (OP)
>footslut
>babykiller
>British
perfect woman

>>126930476 (OP)
Lilly Allen should NOT be having children. Total cunt of a person.

>>126930909
>mudering babies is wrong
Infant mortality has been a thing for all of human history, and frankly if the thing's deformed or can't be cared for it SHOULD be put down.
Stop thinking babies are people. They don't earn that right until 2 or 3.

>>126933476
>They don't earn that right until 2 or 3.
edgy

>>126933476
They have detectable brain activity at 12 weeks, they dream at 28 weeks. Anyone with a baby knows by 4 months at the latest they have a personality with likes and dislikes.

>>126933601
That applies to many animals as well, but it doesn't seem to be enough reason to make their killing illegal.

>>126933663
>humans are le animals

>>126933688
>strawmen are le arguments

>>126930476 (OP)
Such a weird brag but ok

>>126931592
no it's because WOMEN are the ones who have babies retarded. men men men the world doesn't work like that. men don't like it because they know they are responsible for women's 'choices' and they see abortions as their own failing.

man i knew i'd be stepping into an incel wasteland opening this thread but i didn't know there'd be THIS MANY incels...

>>126933902
I’ve been having sex since I was 13. That’s how I know women are retarded whores.

>>126933964
>I’ve been having sex since I was 13
t. Hernando

>>126933988
White as it gets. Got a stupid whore laying next to me right now.

>>126934010
don't talk about your body pillow that way

>>126930476 (OP)
Not my problem

>>126930476 (OP)
There's only about 5 days a month where a woman can actually get pregnant anyway.

>>126930476 (OP)
Most obvious and retarded bait and 90 replies... why is this board filled with morons

>>126930493
>how far we've degenerated

>>126934854
Have you ever by any chance measured your IQ, or done any type of cognitive test?
Genuine question.

>>126933279
why are supposedly racist white right wingers against abortion again?

>>126935078
the incels jumped aboard overturning roe v wade solely because it made women mad. that's the only reason why. they don't know any of the politics or science behind it.

>>126935109
it was a poorly decided and retarded ruling which even Ruth Bader Ginsburg acknowledged

>>126930617
Biblical

>>126935121
interesting. what did she say?
i can see there being ethical issues with forcing half the country (who equates it with literal baby murder) to allow it to happen, electively and at all trimesters no less

>>126935109
Right wingers were always against abortion (definitely well before the Roe v Wade debacle) for religious reasons.

>>126935017
>u dumb
ok, here's some more for you:

"In the 18th-century United States and England, abortion was common enough that there were slang terms for it, like “taking the cold,” “taking the trade” and “bringing down the flowers.” It was less-effective and more dangerous than it is now; women seeking abortions often died from infected wounds or poisons. In the Revolutionary War era and the decades after, most homes would have had a medical manual like William Buchan’s “Domestic Medicine” or Samuel K. Jennings’s “The Married Woman’s Best Friend,” according to James C. Mohr in “Abortion in America: The Origins and Evolution of National Policy.” These books included recipes for concoctions that could induce menses that had been “blocked” or “suppressed” — a common way to refer to early pregnancy. One gave advice specifically for young women who had “what you call a common cold” (emphasis in original), before listing plant extracts believed to induce abortion. Another advised that if the concoctions didn’t work, one could try “violent exercise … jumping or stepping from an eminence, strokes on the belly, [and] falls.”
One of these plant extracts, savin, which comes from juniper bushes, was particularly effective and also plentiful in the United States. But it came with high risk; too much could be lethal to the woman. Plus, there was the issue of murder: For some men acquiring savin for a woman they had impregnated, the “problem” was still solved if the woman died. (Murder, often at the hands of a romantic partner, is still the No. 1 cause of death for pregnant people.)"

>>126930909
Abortion is good. More useless people need to commit to it, otherwise black population would be higher in America right now.

>>126935269
It was based off the penumbra rights "philosophy" of William O. Douglas where the Court basically pulled a nonexistent right to abortion from the air.

>>126935409
>for religious reasons.
interesting considering abortion is only mentioned once in the Bible and it’s a recipe on how to perform one

>>126935490
hilarious how the very same bible says it's okay to kill your child if he shames or disrespects you
"bUt MuH bAbIeS!!1"

>>126935634
>>126935490
>>126935478
>>126935459
none of this has anything to do with music tbqh

>>126935435
>misses the point and doubles down
Classic low IQ behavior

>>126933022
lol, gotta love how they always use pictures of female stars from 20 years ago in these articles.

>>126935663
This entire thread doesn't. It's just the millennial equivalent to Stevie Nick's 'haunted womb'.

>>126932758
>everything i dont like is reddit

>>126935269
>at all trimesters no less
no state did all trimesters. i think only like one allowed it if and only if the mother's life was at danger. stop spreading faux news bullshit.

When you use a condom, do (You) still pull out before ejaculation?

>>126930909
doesn't matter faggot, it's insignificant life

wish you were aborted so I hadn't have had to reply to you

>>126930476 (OP)
Glad to see Lily Allen's a eugenicist

>>126937398
Why would a straight guy use a condom

This thread is evidence of why abortion is good. Maybe even necessary.

>>126930476 (OP)
So... did Lily Allen actually say that?

Many states already had fully legal abortion in 1973 and Pennsylvania was the only one that banned it under all circumstances.

>>126939558
Holy shit. Talk about progress!

>>126939558
>republitards want to stop this

>>126940059
There was literally a case recently where in a red state a pregnant braindead black woman was kept on life support to try to save the life of her black baby. Republicucks love niggers more than anyone.

>>126940092
>keep kid alive
>immediately shove it into severely underfunded social works system of a red state where it will grow up without any kind of positive role models and be failed before it ever even had a fighting chance
the stupidity of rightoids, it doesn't even phase me anymore my expectations are so low.

>>126940225
>>126940092
>>126940059
>>126939558
what does this have to do with music again?

I never understood her schtick.

>>126940243
>why are you talking about off-topic stuff in the off-topic bait thread?