Now it’s a much worse place. How did we get so far off script? Why did we put the memes and circle jerks before the music? How did we let the boomers get the jump on us?This place is a ghost town now compared to SHF.

Because we should have gone the way of /lit/ and exclusively talk about classical music. Because we didn't and continued being poptimist, everything got ruined forever

everyone on that forum is probably a little bitch who can't handle the bantz. discussing music online is cringe anyway, talk to your wife about it or something. most of you have shit taste anyway. If it was up to this board i'd be listening to nothing but Kanye, K Pop, and The Beatles all day, since that's all you fags like talking about
I'll stick to shitposting

>>127083814 (OP)
Bealtes Music forum

>>127083814 (OP)
wtf, those faggots have a 2,100 page Beach Boys thread on their front page with 52k replies. Have I been on the wrong forum this whole time?

>>127084086
Old forums become too dense. "Use the search function before making a new thread"

When was that thread created? No point replying to posts older than 2 weeks and no anon, all namefags

>>127084086
>>127084124
reading boomers be "communicative" and "community oriented" is a gnarly experience. id rather have people call me nigger and tranny all day here than that shit.

>>127084021
The mods don't let you get too nasty or they'll lock threads. They're very big on civility and all that.

>>127084160
see, I think that shit is cringe af. it's fine for them and all, but I hate that crap.
can you even call someone a faggot over there or is it like an instant ban?

>>127083814 (OP)
is not that different from 4chan. its like a boomer/Gen X version of it, with lots of "le sarcarm". and with fuckload of beatles threads, even for the most inane shit ("did john lennon used the right type of glasses?", did paul mccartney invented reggae?", "john lennon is secretely underrated")

Self appointed gurus get their cock sucked by all the newbies on those sites. No different to Reddit. Who's cock are you going to suck to fit in?

>>127084222
>Does anyone know what brand of cigarette George was smoking when they cut "Something"?

>>127084071
then again at least i never see Kendrick threads on there

>>127084141
>>127084181
I'd prefer some middle ground. I like to exchange actual thoughts sometimes.
4chan developed a rep of being "edgy" that it just attracts retards who do it on purpose 24/7. Including all third worlders, which is far worse than ever.

>>127084268
That's an automatic plus.

they sometimes do have good and informative threads about 50s and other such pre rock pop which /mu/ can't really discuss except for like 3 anons ranting about Mitch Miller and "The Doggy In The Window."

>>127084328
do they have exotica threads?

Old wrinkly balls.

>>127084337
They might, it's probably not something that gets discussed much though.

>>127084342
But enough about your grandpa molesting you when you were 6.

>>127084342
The best way to beat the boomers you hate so much is make something worth a shit for once in your miserable life. That's all you needed to do.

>>127084328
you're really gonna diss my boi doggy in the window like that

>>127083814 (OP)
The SHF has always been the same: old married boomers with $30k sound systems frittering over the next Blu-Ray reissue of some mid-tier 1970s soft rock album. Occasionally there will be some interesting discussion but mostly it’s just audiophile babble. But at least it is consistent and you know what you’re gonna get every time you visit.

/mu/ on the other hand is the polar opposite of consistent. 10 years ago this board had a distinct culture and was far more active. The wpop and kpop softcore porn threads were limited to one or two per catalog. It was a much better place to talk music that SHF. Unfortunately all the quality Gen X and millennial posters (anyone remember Niggerman420?) either left or an hero’d, and by 2018 the board was 90% zoomers. Just like in the workplaces, the zoomers here have nothing to say, nothing to contribute, and no life experience to draw from. They spend all their time cooming and playing video games, and they listen to whatever female and POC singers and rappers BlackRock pushes their way on Spotify because they don’t question anything in life and just go with the path of least resistance.

tldr: boomers are frivolous and boring, but zoomers are 10x worse and are basically just husks of people.

>>127084400
>and they listen to whatever female and POC singers and rappers BlackRock pushes their way on Spotify because they don’t question anything in life and just go with the path of least resistanc
Now that DEIbucks are dead and this stuff can no longer exist I wonder where things go from here?

>>127083814 (OP)
what can oldfags do against such reckless zoomerism?

>>127084400
>They spend all their time cooming and playing video games, and they listen to whatever female and POC singers and rappers BlackRock pushes their way on Spotify because

zoomers never listened to that shit its audience was exclusively Millenials who look like Fantano

>>127084440
They can become fossils in their armchairs, talking about "the good old days"

>>127084400
You are getting old, you also were a husk of a person according to your grandpa. You need to accept that you're not young anymore pops

>>127084449
zoomers are even shit at flaming

>>127084554
I'm millennial, kek

It's actually a great place to find the best mastering on cd for most titles (if you care at all about that kind of thing)

>>127084400
>Unfortunately all the quality Gen X....
Wtf you are talking about?. SHF is full of Gen X scum.

it's only an ok site if you want to discuss the best Japanese Pablo Cruise pressing

>>127084619
will I enjoy this site if I regularly watch reruns of Forensic Files?

>>127084400
>(anyone remember Niggerman420?)
Legend

>>127084342
My balls
Your face

>>127084568
then you're retarded enough to come across like a zoomer, congrats retard

>>127084867
Older people are objectively more stupid, this is a scientific fact, IQ drops as you age. Zoomers are smarter than you rofl

SHF >>>>> /mu/

The memes have always been the best part /mu/, shit the fuck op you know nothing. Kpop and wpop and the normalfags who post there ruined this board.

SHF is good for 60s/70s music discussion only, it's actually embarrassing that the only 90s artists and albums that seem to be talked about there is some Oasis or britpop rubbish.

for me, its the Electrical forum

>>127083814 (OP)
I only look that site up regarding cd pressings, other than that it's boomer central and they suck off Hoffman too much with his shit masterings

I miss 420chan's /m/ board, it was slow but comfy as fuck and way hipper than nu-/mu/

>>127086048
>Zoomers are smarter than you rofl
Great. Then do something with it. Just stop talking and simply do. It'll speak for itself.

>>127087087
No need to cope THIS hard kek

>>127087116
Cope about what? That zoomers are already hitting 30...and made zero impact?
That has nothing to do with me. I'm trying to help you, retard. You got a little time left before it's too late. Focusing on me isn't going to fix your problems.

>>127087194
>Cope about what? That zoomers are already hitting 30...and made zero impact?
Like millennials?

>>127087194
They have made impact, just because you do not keep up with the times doesn't mean shit. You are getting old. Silent generation people lamented that boomers played nigger rock instead of wanting to be composers and conductors, you are the same but with zoomers. No generation after 1900 has made worthwhile art yet. No need to rush zoomers on that front my dude, you are as bad if not worse when it comes to being artless.

>>127086048
Consider this: Let's say my IQ was 140 in highschool and assume it dropped apprx. 10 points as I aged up until now. Is my current IQ higher or lower than that of the average zoomer who had chatGPT do all their homework so they could cut class and vape?

>>127087227
Yes. Now its time to kys boomer faggot kek

>>127087194
Zoomer music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWlAgksUQyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cYJ5Dy_FrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjoFJ0fbqZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbZYE4CE_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V8NLdhGAPI
>Bold, brash, made for artistic purposes by talented musicians who long to be remembered like the great composers of the past, will be remembered by time fondly

Millennial "music"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGEiDMf01sw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECuQaaGGfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9GZNcpbro
>Safe, subservient to the establishment, nihilistic, poor imitation of what boomers and gen Xers did better, meaningless by it's own definition, no sense of beauty, will be forgotten once the last millennial dies

Cry more

>>127087224
Ah, the fulfilled zoomers full of happiness, purpose, and grabbing the Zeitgeist by the balls. Silly me. They're everywhere. lol

>>127087247
Yes, you are old. Gramps

>>127087227
Bro looked at a number his mommy and daddy gave him and now pretends he is enlightened LMAO

>>127087243
>is it higher or lower
>Yes.
Technically you are correct

>>127087245
Kurt Cobain was born in the 60s, retard. How is he a millennial?

>>127087273
Technically you gotta head to the retirement home

>>127087245
trvke

>>127087278
technically I raped your nigger mother last night

>>127087274
They sure like to claim him whenever gloating about millennial "music"

>>127087262
You call me old, but you're the one larping as Hide the Pain Harold.
Go ahead and lie to yourself, I guess. That's one way to deal with it.

>>127087285
Concession accepted. Millennials cannot do critical thinking, I know. Ad hominem is all they know

>>127087303
No zoomer even knows this meme kek

>>127087303
Who are you fooling? Hide The Pain Harold is a millennial meme through and through.

>>127087304
There's nothing here to concede because you provided no salient points to which I could do so even if I wanted to. Besides calling me old, which sure I may be getting there but I can still post circles around a newfag like you.

>>127087377
So I gave a factual statement which you responded with an ad hominem? Good job

>>127087392
You lose. Dubs

inb4 he calls me a scriptfag lmao

>>127087224
Smart rhetorical tactic by the Zoomer to combat cynicism by retreating to greater more established cynicism. You can't beat someone saying everything's been shit since X by trying to lighten their view of recent times, but you can say "it's all been shit since before the time you care about" and you're tapping into a deeper zeitgeist they can't help but respect.
Anyways you talk of the Silent Generation when Zoomers are the silent generation 2.0, or should I say 10,000.0
A conservative generation which seeks sustainability and vitality when those things are under threat and doesn't care as much about art or equality.
Of course the presence of the internet is a pressure release valve to alot of our normal function as a silent generation. And for those who can't reach Escape Velocity to attain a traditional happy life which is most, it leads to a deep depression and cope

>>127087311
You're not stupid. Stop trying to be. It's the same meme as the sad wojak with happy mask.
You're arguing against basic cultural conditions. Zoomers simply got fucked by the internet. People used to have one music TV channel of videos and limited radio stations. And no one could change what cycled on it. There was no instant gratification. Just like TVs and movies. People sat and watched shit together and shared in media. Or they all knew what the same blockbuster shit was for the Summer and went in droves. And there weren't as many made either. And with music, you had to walk your ass to a music store to hear whole albums and really invest your money to explore a band. People probably gravitated towards recognizable things more of the time. If not that, kids had tight scenes and subcultures where they shared a lot amongst each other. Everyone didn't live in little walled universes with custom playlists all the time and live in entirely different media worlds than whatever everyone else was doing. For Zoomers to think they'll have cultural impact like what used to happen is just delusional. Sorry it worked out like that. It'll neither happen again with pop or rock again on the same level. And everytime anons post about the "next big thing" around here, it's obviously fake and gay and brigaded and shilled. The minute the shills stop, people move on and forget the next week. There's no actual cultural impact.

>>127083905
/lit/ is also dogshit what are you talking about

>>127088139
>>127087845
thanks ChatGPT

>>127084021
>>127084160
>>127084181
>>127084270
The fact that Steve Hoffman forum clamps down on pointless shittalking is why you're saying it's better than /mu/.
/mu/ has been becoming increasingly negative for a while. People get more attention by saying obnoxious irritating things than a less obnoxious but better thought out post. Over time this makes most threads be bait threads and general pointless bickering.

zoomers are even shit at shit talking, they have no basis of knowledge in anything so just make stuff up to own you on, "omg you're wearing a purple shirt lmfao purple shirt wearing faggot", so you can't even get mad in response, it's like arguing with a 5yo except they're all in their 20s

>>127084400
>by 2018 the board was 90% zoomers.
lol
>they listen to whatever female and POC singers and rappers BlackRock pushes their way
lmao, btw this board died because of people like you who made everyone flee to RYM or Reddit

For me it's WATMM and progarchives
they're kinda dead tho, just like most other forums..

>>127090286
It's getting worse now that ai generated replies are possible. There's a lot of really dull arguing on the board lately and I'm convinced a lot of it is people spamming ai generated arguments. Which is even sadder because it means people aren't even trolling properly anymore. There's no whimsy left in the shitposting.

That 'fact' pepe and the magnifying glass pepe getting posted with some low tier bait is an example of what I mean

A promising 2020s indie rock thread was started last night and got 7 replies and died. /Classical/ and /metal/ got ruined by a few of the same psychopaths. /jazz/ threads can be fun but usually die. But Fantano, various pop drama and poptomism discussions, Kendrick, nu-metal was actually great!!, all the same shit with most of you people.

>>127092192
Jazz threads have likely not been ruined because they aren't that popular tbqh so there's not enough attention for the spergs who ruin the other ones you mention. /gg/ has been unusable for a long long time. Blues threads usually don't get anywhere. Tbqh most threads don't get anywhere unless it's just bait these days.

We're at a low point in the history of /mu/.

>>127084160
the hoffman forum is the worst. everything little comment i made on the short time i was there was reported. even though none of what i said was offensive. they treat you like a little baby over there. then my comments wouldnt get posted before moderator approval which meant none of my comments ever got posted anymore. i still remember one thread titled is rock dead and someone acting like rammstein was a big international rock act so rock wasnt dead. i simply said i only saw one vid by them 25yrs ago and they have no presence in the usa but i got a warning about trolling my comment deleted and banned from that thread

>>127091665
lol according to your graph, nobody ever fled to RYM because that yellow line never leaves the bottom. the sad part is that as the red line, we have now reached RYM levels of irrelevance.

>>127092631
It was probably your tone

>t. have nearly 5000 posts on SHMF

>>127092631
sounds like you need tone police in your life. maybe should have moderated yourself a bit before it got to that point?

>>127092790
>It was probably your tone
i was only stating a fact. mtv only played one video by them 25yrs ago, am i wrong is rammstein massively popular in the usa?
>t. have nearly 5000 posts on SHMF
most of my comments were extremely short only a sentence or two. just stating the obvious and i only commented in the more general threads and avoided threads aimed at specific groups like the beetles. i remember another thread asking whats wrong with modern day country music it had lots of replies. i like country music so i said too much virtue signaling artists changing their names for instance the dixie chicks dropping the word dixie. again i was yelled at

>>127092631
Not a Rammstein fan myself, but they were selling out 30,000 seat venues during their last US tour a year or two ago. I’ve seen their T-shirts on everyone from 70 year old men to goth girls. To say they have no presence in the US is false. The mods probably filtered you out for being objectively wrong.

>>127090286
trvth nvke

>>127088945
Not my fault you can't read a fat paragraph
>>127091850
Schizo

>>127090286

>>127084021
>>127084160
Calling other forums stuffy or sensitive is moot when post-hack /mu/ deletes ANYTHING using the 14th letter word. I get removing posts that are just /pol/screeds with nothing to do with music, but these are solid posts using the word like a regular expletive or in good humor. Nobody brings it up and it's driving me mad.

>>127090286
>>127093033
It clearly made you mad, in which case it worked kek

The only place on the internet that would know for sure if nevermind was recorded on tape or not and would know how to repair that used cassette deck you bought on the facebook marketplace. That and you won't have to talk to people who buy digital files on vinyl kek

steve hoffman is good for info about vinyl. it's basically /mu/ except the boomers fight about arcane pressing details instead of pop sluts

>>127094757
I got banned from /mu/ for using the N word...while quoting John Lennon....on /mu/.....
I get wanting to cull all the /pol/tards and all that, I hate /pol/tards as much as the next guy, but Christ was the Janny who did that a fucking idiot. Granted this was before the recent hack or whatever so maybe that janny is gone now

>>127091666
WATMM was completely shut down

>>127095347
You get banned for saying slurs on any board other than /pol/, the mods are total Jews and Hiro doesn't give a damn.

I can't take audiophile opinions on music seriously.
Same with blues lawyers and guitars.

>>127095421
i'm currently banned from /tv/ for "posting in an off topic thread"
4chan is barely a step above reddit now

>>127083814 (OP)
SHF is good. I used it to determine which vinyl pressing is the best and therefore which pbthal rip I should download.

>>127083814 (OP)
SHF is good. I use it to determine which vinyl pressing is the best and therefore which pbthal rip I should download.

>>127084400
Don’t blame me I tried valiantly but in vain to bring class to this joint

This is the only forum I trust for serious musical discourse.

A lot of faggy boomers on there because I remember 6 years ago getting dogpiled for challenging Taylor Swift’s nepo baby background. Probably a lot of old money boomers on there who never worked a day in their life see themselves in her