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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:48:35 PM No.127085940
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>Son, have you listened to "More than a feeling" by Boston? IT'S THE GREATEST BLOODY ROCK SONG EVER. Also, listen to the whole album, it's one of the best debuts EVER!!!
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:50:35 PM No.127085953
>>127085940 (OP)
I hate "Classic Rock" so much. It's the most saccharine, shallow, degenerate music imaginable. It represents everything bad about the boomer generation. These people's parents listened to Mozart and Tchaikovsky and they listen to this trash. TBD.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:57:06 PM No.127086018
>>127085953
There's different kinds of "dad rock", it could mean either Toto/John Denver/Bob Seger or Jimi Hendrix/Beatles/Kinks.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:07:22 PM No.127086120
>>127085953
You will be hard pressed to name many pieces out of Mozart's or Tchaikovsky's bodies of work that are on par with, to say nothing of superior to, the better known songs of classic rock. Not that such pieces don't exist, but they are few and far between. And your pseudo-intellectual subtext - that the structural and harmonic rigidity of what you without any doubt subsume under "classical music" somehow makes it a purer or higher form of art - has not gone by unnoticed.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:11:39 PM No.127086160
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>>127086120
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:13:17 PM No.127086176
>>127086160
Great comeback, mate. Gave it your all.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:13:37 PM No.127086179
>>127086018
All of it's shit. Except Rush, I enjoy Rush. Still, most of the fans are psueds.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:15:24 PM No.127086189
>>127086176
Do you actually think that classical music is structurally and harmonically more rigid than popular music? Think about that statement again.
>verse chorus verse chorus guitar solo chorus
Genius structure.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:16:55 PM No.127086207
>>127086189
Holy shit, are you out of your depth.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:17:50 PM No.127086212
>>127085940 (OP)
>IT'S THE GREATEST BLOODY ROCK SONG EVER.
Okay, I love classic rock. I own plenty of classic rock vinyl.
There is absolutely NO human being in the universe that would think, out of the thousands (if not millions) of rock songs out there, that "More Than a Feeling" is the greatest rock song of all time.
Boston would be lucky to be in the top 100 rock bands ever.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:18:00 PM No.127086215
>>127086207
Name me one (1) classic rock album that's better than Tchaikovsky's Pathetique.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:20:42 PM No.127086250
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>>127086215
Here's seven.
>>127085953
>These people's parents listened to Mozart and Tchaikovsky and they listen to this trash.
You DO realize listening to classical and listening to classic rock isn't mutually exclusive, right? There's plenty of people who like both.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:23:12 PM No.127086281
>>127086215
Is this question a joke? Head Games by Foreigner blows Pathétique out of the water.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:23:32 PM No.127086286
>>127086250
Nobody listens to the Moody Blues dude.
>There's plenty of people who like both.
Not many. The problem I have is that many boomers think Boston or the Beatles are the peak of art music or something.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:24:34 PM No.127086299
>>127086281
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:25:09 PM No.127086305
>>127086299
Again, great comeback. Destiny by Saxon would probably be on par with Pathétique.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:26:03 PM No.127086314
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>>127086281
dude
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:26:19 PM No.127086317
>>127086212
>There is absolutely NO human being in the universe that would think, out of the thousands (if not millions) of rock songs out there, that "More Than a Feeling" is the greatest rock song of all time.
welcome to the real world, hipster.
no one cares about unwound and husker du here
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:27:34 PM No.127086334
>>127086286
Your prompt wasn't popularity or how many people listen to them. You said name a better album. The popularity of said album does not change the quality of it.
>Boston or the Beatles are the peak of art music or something
Now THIS part I can agree with. I swear Beatles fans have gotten more and more insufferable lately. I remember reading a comment section once that said if you don't like the Beatles that absolutely none of your music takes can be trusted and frankly that's just asinine.
I don't think I've ever seen someone say Boston was 'the peak of art music' though. Have you seen or heard someone actually saying that?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:28:44 PM No.127086349
>>127086317
>no one cares about unwound and husker du here
I never claimed I listened to or cared about either of those artists. Why you cited them specifically is beyond me.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:29:25 PM No.127086353
>>127086349
I could sense it
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:29:34 PM No.127086354
>>127086334
>You said name a better album. The popularity of said album does not change the quality of it.
I mean the fact that they are literally less popular than Tchaikovsky kinda means they're not really "Classic Rock". Classic Rock isn't so much a style as it is a canon of popular bands.
>I don't think I've ever seen someone say Boston was 'the peak of art music' though. Have you seen or heard someone actually saying that?
You must not be familiar with boomers.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:30:56 PM No.127086366
>>127086314
...because you ascribe some ineffable "depth" to all works Classical, even though many of the composers were literal code monkeys of music for most of their careers. It's just pseudo-intellectualism at its worst and the fact that you midwits always default to Mozart, Tchaikovsky or Beethoven, while overlooking Orlando di Lasso or Luigi Boccherini just goes to show how superficial you are. What makes it so contemptible is how much of a major consensus this notion is among so-called "educated" people. It's so lazy and so sad.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:33:14 PM No.127086388
>>127086366
>I'm le smart because I like less popular classical composers
Fuck off dude
>he fact that you midwits always default to Mozart, Tchaikovsky or Beethoven
Please look at the context in which I first brought up Mozart and Tchaikovsky anon.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:33:14 PM No.127086389
>>127086354
>Classic Rock isn't so much a style as it is a canon of popular bands
Ok so what level of popularity are you going for here? I can try and find more popular examples if you really want that.
>You must not be familiar with boomers.
I mean I've been told I have boomer taste so I am somewhat familiar with them, but BOSTON? I don't see what'd be so special about them that a boomer would pick them as a favorite band.
>>127086353
I've heard exactly one album from each and didn't like either of them. Does that count?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:37:10 PM No.127086429
>>127086388
Elegantly dancing around my central point (that the midwit will always gravitate around the ill-founded notion of "depth" in classical music vs. other types of music).
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:37:17 PM No.127086432
>>127086389
>Ok so what level of popularity are you going for here? I can try and find more popular examples if you really want that
Find more popular examples, please
>I mean I've been told I have boomer taste so I am somewhat familiar with the
Boomers are extraordinarily myopic people. They don't have any frame of reference outside of the one they grew up in and live in. It ties into their politics as well. They ate up the TV propaganda and they can't consider any other possible ways of viewing the world.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:38:56 PM No.127086443
>>127086429
I've listened to well-regarded popular music and I've listened to well-regarded classical music. I like the classical music more. That's all there is to it.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:45:02 PM No.127086484
>>127086432
>Find more popular examples, please
I'm fully prepared for "these all suck" response but I'll just list some rock albums I prefer to classical music.
David Bowie - Heathen
Billy Joel - The Nylon Curtain
Elton John - Blue Moves
Joe Cocker - With a Little Help from My Friends
Frank Zappa - Absolutely Free!
Steely Dan - Katy Lied
Santana S/T
Led Zeppelin II
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Alan Parsons - Eye in the Sky
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Carole King - Rhymes & Reasons
Any Talking Heads album aside from True Stories
Randy Newman - Little Criminals
Tom Waits first two albums
The first four Soft Machine albums
Any of those work for you?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:47:58 PM No.127086509
>>127086484
Yeah none of this shit is anywhere close lol. And I don't even hate rock music.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:50:28 PM No.127086534
>>127086509
I knew you were gonna say that no matter what.
Can we at LEAST agree they're better than Boston? I figure that's a fair compromise.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:55:47 PM No.127086596
>>127086534
Yes, definitely. There's definitely a hierarchy in rock music, and much of it is very good, and has lots of depth (for popular music). My fundamental problem is that there's a vacuum of art music where classical music used to sit. I don't think that rock music, or jazz music, or electronic music is good enough to occupy that spot.