When did going against the establishment stop being attractive to young people?

>>127088949 (OP)
when they start making money.

It didn't, they just think being trans is accomplishing that.

>>127088949 (OP)
When they learnt about Tavistock Institute

When they learned it's all controlled opposition

when obama got in power. liberals had for 60 years been the rebels but they thought they had won forever when obama won so they became a mediocrity/moral police, they started to get offended instead of being offensive.

what is rebellion nowadays anyways, neets, incels. they live on the edge of society. but crapitlism hasnt absorbed them....yet

>>127088949 (OP)
I'd say around 2017 after the first Trump election, when (((they))) started cracking down on outsider movements such as Gamergate and the early Alt Right.
Social media and the Internet at large became more cucked and sanitized, pushing SJW neoliberal establishment ideology to the top and pushing most normies into conformity

>>127089985
neets are consoomers who live on welfare thoughever, they are basically human goyslop

>>127088949 (OP)
When the internet became the dominant form of communication and digital footprints can easily make or break careers. The fact that credit card companies or even services like PayPal can just embargo individuals guarantees wrongthink is a punishable crime

>>127089985
>liberals had for 60 years been the rebels
true, I remember the anti-establishment revolution led by Clinton in the 90s

>>127090120
why are you afraid to say "jews"?

>>127088949 (OP)
It's part of the death of rock. It's what made kids "scary" to their parents and teachers, but creative energy. Not ghetto shit where everyone kills each other and destroy theirs own communities.

>>127088949 (OP)
but you are the establishment

>>127088949 (OP)
why did it become attractive in the first place?

>>127088949 (OP)
The internet, you can just mindlessly sedate yourself on the internet all day, and that's what everyone is doing

>>127088949 (OP)
maybe you just had oppositional defiant disorder

>>127091673
Because America is awesome and our true spirit is that of the individual telling the world to suck his dick. Pirates, smugglers, OG patriots, cowboys, pioneers, gangsters, rockstars.
This "new world" where America is no longer awesome.. and everyone and their mom has to apologize 24/7 for both their personal and collective lives is a massive shitshow. It's nonstop failure in everyone's personal mentality and the mentality of the whole culture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxcUh45E-I8

>>127091738
Fortunately it's over and we're free once again.

>>127091738
>youth are not anti establishment now because they don't like the United States

>>127091752
It has a lot to do with it. It's all connected. Ain't no way any previous generation of kids would have taken as much shit as you faggots.

>>127088949 (OP)
It never did. That's because young people are stupid and the establishment isn't.

Did you not see the fags in harness roaming the streets in the middle of the day at the pride parade? As long as you're not hurting someone outright no one gives a shit about what you're doing nowadays. The worst you can expect is some impotant whining. Every single act of rebellion that wasn't utterly unpalatable has been integrated and commodified by the system. People can still try being nonces or islamists I guess.

>>127091514
using echoes is fun

>>127088968
lol this, trans ppl on the internet think they're punk rock for posting obvious shit, degenerate shit and having the palestine flag on their twitter profile

>>127088949 (OP)
It still is. Trust in government is at a record low in the anglosphere.

>>127088949 (OP)
Young people now have the illusion of two diametrically opposed establishments so now the can pick a side and be both anti establishment and part of the establishment.

counter culture is still a thing but they just don't make music anymore because the sad truth is that even people who made counter-culture music like punk were at least somewhat driven by money and there just isn't money to be made in genres like punk rock anymore unless it's highly sanitized popslop that doesn't even really count as counterculture. Again, the counter culture is still a thing, they just don't have any cultural impact at the moment. Maybe when the pendulum shifts in 20 years things will be different, we're kind of living in extremely gay times right now, where everything is relatively peaceful, but nobody is satisfied with peace.

>>127088949 (OP)
you are all chronically online and it shows
reality is, "going against the establishment" have never been a "cool thing" at least for the vast majority of people
you all have this idea that "young people are against the establishment" cuz you are fantazising a past that didn't really exist and imagine as if all the youth back then were rebels and were all fighting back the mainstream or something, the truth is most were okay with "the establishment" or at least weren't rebels
most young people since always, even tho they might have some type of rebellion, follow whatever trend is popular, follow their own people's culture without really questioning it, and if the government does something they think 'well I guess this is how it is now and it is fine'
this doesn't mean rebellion isn't popular, of course it is and especially with the youth; through out history there have always been alternative looking people with their own subculture, but even amongst these most aren't extremists or like real rebels acting "against the establishment" it's mostly just some subcultures different from the norm just for the sake to be different, perhaps some type of rebellion "against the establishment" but in a minor way, usually because the "system" or "the establishment" failed them in some way or don't feel entirely comfortable in it or to just be inside some group they percieve as cool and badass for their looks and aesthetics, cooler than the lame norm or something
these include punks, goths, metalheads, emos, hiphopheads, people into "the hood" or whatever, even fucking 4chan or tumblr or all these curonically online groups like weebs, furries, trannies, the alt-right, etc.

>>127095943
>reality is, "going against the establishment" have never been a "cool thing" at least for the vast majority of people
Honestly true, the very idea of a "mainstream counter culture" sounds extremely counterintuitive if you think about it

>>127088949 (OP)
Because the faggots who rebelled against the system in the 60s and 70s won so now their faggy offspring have nothing to rebel against. They won't be rebelling against uptight conservatives who have a stronghold on media, they'll be oppressed by their draconian overlords who outsource their lives to foreign nations, surveilled and kept alive only to be further farmed and drained of their essence. There is no uprising, just more violations and revocations of human rights and liberties

>>127089985
>rebellion is staying in mommy's basement saying slurs online
lol
lmao
god i feel so bad for you incels sometimes. not really though kek

>>127097284
Fuck off back to Bluesky faggot

>>127097284
This, so much this!
Cuck pride!

Every media format starts out with a few good decades and inevitably turns into slop for rich urbanite liberals so it needs to all be demolished and paved over.

>>127097314
>>127097320
it makes me happy that you'll die virgins

>>127088949 (OP)
Go on Instagram Reels and Xitter, I think you'll find it's still in vogue, just in the (perceived) other direction. Truth is the "anti-estaishment" youth of the past were never truly rebelling against the establishment, only reinforcing it.

>>127088949 (OP)
I agree with this bong right here.
Back in the days, identities were born out of music.
Punks, emos, metalheads.
Now identities are created on social media.
Music is an addition.
My 2 cents is that, since music is the most sovlfvl of all artforms, if it becomes an addition, then you lose your sovl.
Every identity becomes performative.
That's why art and memes became a reiteration of older art: it's from sovl that comes novelty. If you wanna do dress up as an emo, a shoegaze fan, a Deftones fan, you don't need a sovl.
You need a tshirt with the Nirvana logo on it and big tiddies.
SSRIs nuking the autonomic nervous system didn't help either.

>>127097284
>lol
>lmao
>god i feel so bad for you incels sometimes. not really though kek

>>127088949 (OP)
>pic
Oh yes, going against the establishment by replacing it with an even more violently authoritarian establishment
So rebellious

>>127098300
i can feel your seethe through the screen

>>127098105
There was always an obsession with sex but it seems reslly bad now since there's no counterpoint at all. What women find sexy is.. also other women? Like that cant be good for society. There's a major inequality going on and no one cares. In fact they laugh about it

>>127098458
>Like that cant be good for society.
Only losers talk like this
Winner don't give a shit

>>127088949 (OP)

>>127088949 (OP)
When they get their first paychecks

>>127088949 (OP)
Gay fascist cat.

>>127099100
Well, that's not very nice.
It's just a cat.