*is heavier than all of their contemporaries while also being alternative*

bland post-African repetitions

>>127090273 (OP)
Listen to more music. I like them too, but fucksakes.

>>127091591
name one heavier album pre 1980

Return of the rat
Return of the rat
Return of the rat
Oh no no no no no no

>>127091999
Lick My Decals Off, Baby

>>127093114
WINDOW SHOP FOR LOVE
WANT IT SO MUCH
LOOK BUT DON'T TOUCH

>>127091999
any of the first couple black sabbath albums, most of the 70s judas priest stuff, deep purple, sir lord baltimore, fuckin van halen 1. I love wipers but they aren't heavy. this is a troll thread.

>>127091999
White Light/White Heat

>>127091999
Der Ring des Nibelungen

>>127093471
>black sabbath
No. Their mixes are too weak. Wipers have better dynamics, audible drums and bass parts.

>>127091999
Unironically Queen playing thrash in 1974.
https://youtu.be/f4FoRvwNhDI?si=6xeIdYnZeBI15uiE

If you want something significantly heavier from 1980, check this out.
https://youtu.be/sxT5tjDXNuE?si=uZMKGdiWjSpg3WPM

You know hardcore already existed, right?
https://youtu.be/ctUiBVT142Y?si=2T4SYkG35sjrL7Xp


Also Joy Division were playing hardcore in like 1977 before they were a post punk band.
https://youtu.be/a8URFO8sQHg?si=0JKGaJLY0t0e4YaW
https://youtu.be/JPXMqjXGgRU?si=MJTgfKQI884uMhwe
https://youtu.be/ObFIztY9M1c?si=qCfY8ccTUmSom2Un

>>127096907
that shit sounds so weak. wipers knew how to record in a heavy way

>>127096918
>Wipers heavier than Black Flag
Are you trolling?
I like the Wipers, especially their second album, but nothing on Is This Real? is this heavy.
https://youtu.be/RvYD6HYVE8A?si=oS4KxudWhLBGhjUV

>>127095144
Based.

>>127096972
yes, songs on ITR are heavier. Better dynamics, much heavier guitar tone, properly recorded.

>>127096972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyg5Kp727ks
this has much more force. listen to both songs on headphones, on loud

>>127091999
Why before 1980. You said contemporary. Killing Joke's their contemporary, as far as "alt rock" goes.
As far as non rock goes, early metal. Probably Priest.

>>127097044
nope. Wipers had a better low end, dynamics and richer guitar tone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QISbYwtfEk

>>127097051
I can hear what you're saying. He had a cool guitar tone. I think he partly built his own amp or something. Some kind of modded ampeg, I think.
But KJ's overall sound and direction inspired even metal and even spawned industrial. And they had one of the best hard drummers.

>>127091521
>bland post-African repetitions
oh shit. now that I think about it you're so right
how did I not notice that before?

>>127097106
>>127097044
I like 'The Wait'

>arguing guitar tone instead of songwriting
Yeah sure. I guess it depends on your definition of “heavy”

Early hardcore was faster with more aggressive riffs and screamed/shouted vocals, but the production was usually shit with a ton of high end for some reason. I guess if you ignore everything else and focus on tone, the Wipers were heavier.

>>127099202
yeah this is what I meant. Guitar tone + dynamics + the way they mixed the bass and drums made them heavier than early hardcore and heavy metal.