>60 year old hippie dudes playing shitty folk hippie rock music.
>ooh muh house gotta sell muh house and live in a van to tour around America to see them play huhuhu

>>127091341 (OP)
He's one of the best guitarists of his generation. It's just scattered in random recordings...which most people don't have the time to follow.

Back then people didn't know about Les Rallizes Denudes and The Velvet Underground had broken up so The Grateful Dead were the best "band that jams on 3 chords for 20 minutes".

>>127091341 (OP)
I suspect it was just an excuse to orbit around a highly sexualised community of fat drug users.

>>127091341 (OP)
Once you realise this, it's no longer any surprise that America votes in complete retards every 4 years.

>>127091472
>highly sexualised

The Dead were never "sexy". Were there occasionally hot naked hippie chicks at their shows? Yes but overall it wasn't like a rave scene where people explicitly go there to try and fuck. Most non-heads who came to the lot were there to score hard to find psychedelics or other drugs

> t. millennial raised by two deadhead parents

>>127091484
Get help. You probably barely listened and then make a sweeping judgement on all hundreds of millions of random people over it. To your credit, it doesn't even seem like you're partisan. You said every 4 years, so I assume you just hate everyone and everything. It's just unhinged that a random Grateful Dead thread sparked this.

>>127091525
sexualised =/= sexy

>>127091568
Point is in the 80s/ early 90s you didn't go to a Dead show to get easy pussy, you would have a better chance with that at a hair metal concert or rave

>>127091645
No, it was just a bunch of fat hippies with a giant swinging circle.

>>127091341 (OP)
>60 year old hippie dudes playing shitty folk hippie rock music.
That's because you're not a boomer who saw them in 67-73.

>>127091341 (OP)
https://youtu.be/RhcEXk_pJ9c

>>127091341 (OP)
It's really simple once you understand this one thing: Grateful Dead is EDM for boomers.

don't like hippies or jam bands in general. Most rank and file Deadheads get on my nerves but I still soberly and regularly listen Grateful Dead music. They do owe us an apology for blazing the trail for Phish and their stupid fans

>>127091354
once pissed off a good friend who was also a Dead fan when he put a Dead tape in his car stereo. I said to him “why does the Grateful Dead always play in the same key ?” Hurt, he replied “they DO NOT always play in the same key !” “Ok” I replied “how come everything they play sounds as if it’s played in the same key ?” Angry, he pulled the tape out of the player. We continued our journey in silence.

Deadheads are addicted to the feeling of elation
It is the mood of every single one of their songs. Maybe althea is slightly more bluesy
Every song, when performed live, follows the same trajectory

Deadheads go to shows, wear colorful outfits, smoke weed or eat mushrooms or anything similar, and dance repetitively for up to four hours to conjure those feelings of "elation", a feeling which nominally only lasts moments. Deadheads greedily, gluttonously, hedonistically prolong these feelings, and delay reality through their use of drugs, and forced, brainwashed familial group-think. They tell each other they are part of a community. And they are. But you take away the drugs and it would likely cease to exist. I'm not saying they're all drug addicts. But this brand of "peace and love" is endemic to chronic tokers. They are all love and freedom and peace and chill until they can't have their magic flower. Then they become irate, selfish, cynical.

I really don't mind the music. It's just monotonous in a way that so clearly is to facilitate a sort of hypnosis.

Truly. It is EDM for boomers.

>>127092065
Nice piece.

>>127091341 (OP)
Jim Morrison mogs this fat clown

>>127092097
Jimbo couldn't even play an instrument

>>127091341 (OP)
You have to read On the Road by Jack Kerouac and then it will all click

>>127092081
Thanks

>>127091921
lol. Music fans are so cringe

>>127092065
>Deadheads are addicted to the feeling of elation
Then explain Wharf Rat.

>>127091887
Dead shows are one of the few concerts where I can actually stand the audience. I always get a good vibe from the people there when I see Dead & Co. or any of those bands. When it's a /mu/core band, there's always a palpable feeling of discontent in the air. Dead shows are a nice break from that.

>>127091887
Which key? There are seven keys and the Grateful Dead have hundreds of songs. Unless a band has less than eight songs there has to be some overlap.

>>127091921
Which key? There are seven keys and hundreds of Dead songs. Unless a band has less than eight songs there has to be some overlap.

>>127091921
"Why doesn't the Grateful Dead either play a total of seven songs or play in keys that don't exist?

>>127094043
>explain one exception
No. I won't. It's an exception. I'm sure it's unique. It doesn't matter.

>>127094043
>>127095097
the fans might be just looking for a good time, but most of the songs aren't particularly cheerful. a huge chunk of the classic repertoire is gambling, drinking, stealing, killing people, trains, and other sad cowboy/hobo shit

Listen to eleven from live dead. Amazing guitar song

>>127091484
Usually but not in 2016 and 2024.

>>127092065
Not inaccurate but most avid fans of many genres are seeking elation, or excitement, or the aggression from hardcore genres. It's all just defined by the character of the person. I'd try and say progressive and jazz there's s more introspective intelligent quality but it's probably just another twist on the dopamine search

>>127094110
>>127091921
Garcia was originally a Bluegrass player.
Most Bluegrass tunes are played in G because it is the best key for Banjo and maybe mandolin.

>>127091341 (OP)
it was the first time many of them experienced hard drugs

>>127092123
lol that book filtered the shit out of me, tried to beat it so many times but after repeated attempts think i only got 2/3s through it.

>>127095242
Found the NPC.

>>127095278
I can think of more Grateful Dead songs played in the key of A, E, and F right off the bat. I actually can't think of a song of theirs played in G right now, although I'm sure there are many.

>>127095278
I can think of more Grateful Dead songs played in the key of A, E, and D right off the bat. The only song of theirs played in G I can think of right now is Help on the Way.

>>127095097
You sound depressed.

>>127095097
You just don't know their music, that's all.

I don’t even consider them a real band. They’re a brand marketing experiment that provides an experience like amusement parks. They have two listenable, focused studio albums in Workingman’s Dead and American Beauty. Everything after that is an excuse to play some idiotic song for 12 minutes on one of their hundreds of live albums. Many have already said it here but it’s totally a drug culture thing and I’m guessing 85% of people who go to their shows only do so because of the association with psychedelics.

>>127091341 (OP)
That six-part documentary on the Dead changed my opinions a lot. Give it a try.

Grateful Dead are the CIA band, retards. I'm not being ironic. No Mkultra, no Grateful Dead. You are all confirmed glownigger dick suckers. Grateful Dead and Taylor Swift are one in the same: a performance funded and forced onto the masses by the US government.

>>127094163
>>127094110
why can't people play in, say, a key between B and C?
is that too narrow of an interval for human ear to recognize a difference or does the pre-tuned instruments like piano require all the theoretically non-pretuned like guitar to stick with the standard intervals?

>>127092065
>fans go to shows to enjoy the music and feel happy
groundbreaking research, when are you gonna publish this?

>>127091341 (OP)
Their pop hit in the 80's is cool

>>127092153
The Grateful Dead are not music

>>127097434
You'd need new instruments like sitars

>>127095257
I dunno man. It just seems like other bands and genres have a bit more diversity to their sound.
>>127096250
I dunno man I work at a venue and have seen no less than a dozen dead tribute concerts. Yes it's only just tributes, but still. I've heard this shit through and through. And again, I'm not saying it's all bad. It's just monotonous.

>>127098419
Yeah nah that's not what I said. And also that's not really true, is it? Songs are capable of inspiring feelings more than just "elation".

>>127094110
>there are seven keys

I saw Dead and Co a couple years ago, never got into them myself or really “get it” but I’ve never given them a deep dive or anything. The whole show I had to be given indications the song was over by people clapping, after about 10 minutes of what sounded like the same thing over and over I’d usually tune out and come to find they were doing that still for another 20 minutes. Anyway shakedown street was the most disgusting thing I’d ever seen, kids obviously being coerced into living a “hippie” lifestyle which I’m sure means they are now on the street or overdosed on drugs. One obvious example was an open hatchback with a very handsome blonde boy playing guitar amateurishly and a beautiful blonde girl next to him which is innocent enough, but hanging out in the front seat was a much older hippie man so it made it seem like they were being guided into living a completely meaningless life by an old pervert. Lots of things like that, dudes walking around just openly selling drugs and there were kids there and shit too, just none of it seemed like it was a good way to live and anyone under the age of 25 had been brainwashed essentially.

>>127094110
There are 12 keys, retard. Potentially infinite if you detune from 440

>>127097434
It's because of the piano. It is really hard to retune, although even that is possible. But then again there's not really a point to do that besides to fuck with people that want to play along with the recording. It's much easier to just keep standard 440 tuning

>>127099672
Including the black keys makes a huge difference and totally undermines my point. Not.

>>127091645
>get easy pussy,
>>127091525
>where people explicitly go there to try and fuck
How'd you get sex? In a public space? How'd be the modus operandis?

You wouldn't get it anyway...

https://voca.ro/136ybmVdj1b8

>>127097434
If you listen to certain beatles recordings, songs which were either sped up or slowed down on tapes, they can tend to hover between keys. "Lovely Rita" IIRC lies somewhere between E-Flat major and E major. You can also hear this effect on some of those metallica songs off ride the lightning, I always have to retune shit to play along.

But really it's a moot point since those songs are still using a twelve-tone scale. Bizarre eastern traditions employ true microtonality; it sounds pretty horrible.

>>127099672
Actually you're wrong, d flat and d sharp are still d. Even if you want so go there for the sake of disproving what I was saying you've only added five keys, so my point still stands. Just face the fact that you can't come up with a solid reason to hate this band and bitching about a band with hundreds of songs having two or more that happen to be in one key makes you look like an annoying bitch and your friend was right to give you shit about it.

>>127102247
>d flat and d sharp are still d
you fucking dumbass lol

>>127096636
I struggle to see why I should give a fuck. MK-Ultra has probably influenced all aspects of culture at this point so if you're this afraid of it then you're fucked. What's more, no one has ever convincingly backed up the theory that the Grateful Dead were members of the CIA and I'm beginning to think that it's a myth that survives from people reading it, believing it fully without question because of their preexisting hatred for them, and telling other people about it.

Mookie taking the night off for a "mental reset"

>>127102276
You're fighting so hard to make my point slightly less damning for you, and either way it still stands. It's pathetic.

>>127102326
it's not actually my point, I am an outside observer and I am observing that you are factually incorrect to suggest there are only 7 available keys in a12-tone system.

>>127102425
Twelve then. How's that?

>>127102470
Yes? That's right! Good job.

>>127102303
Grateful Dead was passing out LSD at the same time it was only being produced by the US government.

>>127102824
The LSD in the earliest days was Sandoz for pharmaceutical research, not government production. Bear was also cooking his own at the time he was funding the Dead's early days.

>>127092123
I realized this in a way I didn't expect. I've been listening to the Dead for over a decade as a zoomer and only just this summer read On the Road. It really does capture where the Dead picked up. They harnessed the unspeakable tenet of Americana and took it to go, recording and sharing it with as many people who could bear it and tune in.
God I love my country

>>127091341 (OP)
If you never saw The Grateful Dead in concert, you aint gonna understand.
Simple as...

>>127091341 (OP)
LOL NO ONE DOES BUBBA.

THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU NEVER HEAR THAT TRASH ON THE RADIO.

BECAUSE IT'S TRASH.

>>127092065
Of course, you do understand that there are thousands of Grateful Dead fans who actually enjoy the music and are clean and sober, right?

>>127094043
The song, or the clean and sober group of Dead Heads?

>>127095230
So, what you're saying is that The Grateful Dead are actually a PUNK ROCK BAND?
Well, I guess that explains the mosh pit last time I saw them play Cumberland Blues.

>>127095234
It's really more drums oriented, but Jerry does some good work on the fret board.

>>127096088
How about Bertha, Friend of The Devil, and Cumberland Blues, to name but three songs that start off in the key of G?

>>127102303
Gosh are zoomers are unfunny.

Just a complete inability to meme.

>>127097434
Unless I'm greatly mistaken, and going deaf, I believe Candyman starts out in the key of C.

>>127104568
No.
It's actually because they're blacklisted from radio airplay.
Also, yiu're quite wring.
Many "Classic. Rock" Stations DO play The Grateful Dead, even though it's usually Casey Jones, Truckin' Friend of The Devil, or Touch of Grey. You almost never get to hear the GOOD stuff. (Although concerts have been broadcast live as they happen)

>>127104609
That's nothing.
I remember the one time I saw JGB, and half the audience were stage diving to Late For Supper.

>>127104571
Yeah, as referenced when I said "I'm not saying they're all drug addicts", you fucking illiterate.

>>127099043
Very interesting indeed.

>>127092104
He could eat a lot of chicken though.

>>127104571
Yeah, I read what you said you sanctimonious twat.
I'm not illiterate.
My reading comprehension is just fine.
You claim to acknowledge that you understand that not all "Dead Heads" take drug, but most of your screed seems to suggest that the community wouldn't exist without them.
I find this point of view very shallow, narrow, and biased, if not outright prejudicial, and stereotypical.

The community would exist, even without the drugs.
>Or have you never heard of The Warf Rats?