Why do millenials pretend they had better music than gen z when they're the generation that made Maroon 5, Kesha and Justin Timberlake popular?

There was an era in 2010s when indie rock had a presence that zoomies have yet to compare to

>>127099141 (OP)
They still had Lana... Bat for Lashes...even the popsluts were better (Gaga).
It's still all women though. Unless someone proves me wrong.

>>127099199
>Lashes...even the popsluts were better (Gaga)
Lol Olivia Rodrigo blows that bitch out of the water

>>127099141 (OP)
the only reason you should be spending any time caring what young people think is if you're selling them something.

>>127099224
Olivia is a Disney actress who I doubt writes most of her songs. Gaga writes her stuff, plays multiple instruments, and creates earworms as well as 80s artists. A lost art apparently.

>>127099224
Not even a Gaga fan, but she completely mogs Olivia in every department, even the dancing which is supposed to be that slut's saving grace because she can't sing for shit.

>>127099224
This, GUTS mogged Joanne.

>>127099141 (OP)
can't wait till gen alpha revives freak folk, dance punk and blog mediafire core

>>127099141 (OP)
Zoomers are into talentless popsluts, kpop and have not produced a genre of their own. They are passive consumers even compared to millennials. At least hipsters tried to dig deeper into other kinds of music.

>>127099361
They have mumble rap

>>127099141 (OP)
Except they actually have. How much of our own shit do we even fucking listen to?

Meanwhile, zoomer rappers...

theyre both really shitty generations. zoomers are worse though
gen x were the last respectable generation for taste and style

Just the fact that zoomers take Disney stuff seriously is why they suck. There was always a place for that, but it wasn't taken that seriously. Everyone knew what Britney and Backstreet Boys and Spice Girls were and didn't compare it to folk and punk bands or whatever. They were totally different universes. The zoomer mind doesn't see that. He just gets his slop on tap and doesn't question it or only ever appeals to big charts and doesn't even know what an actual organic artist is or has any scenes that were created by artists themselves. It's all industry slop fed to them from on high. Then they all talk mad shit on top of that, and wonder why they're hated.
Even many pop acts in the past weren't all Disney slop. Many started in club life or did cabaret shows or some odd shit. Or even started in actual bands (Madonna of all people).

>>127099141 (OP)
>Maroon 5

Well… here’s a M5 track that BTFO anything a zoomer would have the balls to reference

https://youtu.be/nIjVuRTm-dc

Keep swallowing up every narrative instead of thinking for yourself and using your own ears…

>>127099480
Are you serious? This sounds like Coldplay for geriatric boomers.

>>127099509
M8 if you knew how to play a maroon 5 song on acoustic you would've been swimming in bussy

>>127099361
I want to believe they don't actually like it. It doesn't make sense to me that an actual person who grew up in America or Europe likes embraces it all so wholeheartedly. Like a kid should want to rebel and do his own thing. Not listen to everything a big entity shoves down his throat. It's the kind of thing bugmen and streetshitters embrace. They're just slaves where human life is pointless. But not Westerners.

>>127099361
>>127099563
Zoomers listen to Penelope Scott. Y'all out of touch.

>>127099361
I'm truly amazed about how zoomers latch on girls that can't sing to save their lives because they do tiktok dances and shake their ass every now and then. The only new zoomer artist that can actually sing somewhat well is Chapell Roan. Where did all the talent go? Popsluts in 2005-2015 could actually sing well enough while shaking their ass.

>>127099141 (OP)
>Maroon 5, Kesha and Justin Timberlake
You mean Jon Bellion, Benny Blanco and Max Martin?
Don't know about the other two, but Jon Bellion tickles my pickle in a very special way. (And the gen alpha listens to him too) https://soundcloud.com/jonbellion/wash
That said, I've listened to only one song from the last kesha album, doesn't seem bad. https://youtu.be/MZpkaqr_Aw8 a nice blend between last decade pop and current day hyperpop.

It's funny how both Bellion and Kesha have gone indie, btw.

>>127099141 (OP)
Those millennial women looks like they enjoy life unlike the zoomers

>>127099141 (OP)
When they stopped making emo, metal and "indie" rock and became hipster faggots like Antonio Fag Anus is when they became uncool
But hey at least they can play instruments... unlike Zoomers.

I don't even want to be shitty to zoomers anymore. I'm just gonna pretend I'm talking to pajeets and record label interns trying to gaslight me that they're zoomers. Everything is a pajeet or chinkcel problem on this site anyway.

>>127099141 (OP)
there's always been shitty corporate pop, and corporate rap has existed since the 80s, but the difference is previous generations had so much more happening all the time, constant new bands and artists making it big, constant new scenes and sounds hitting the mainstream
zoomers have corporate pop and rap and almost nothing else and they genuinely can't wrap their minds around the idea of a healthy living culture
that's why there are always threads on here where a zoomer just learned about fucking green day and assumes they were the biggest thing on earth
zoomers are a cursed generation, man, i'd feel sorry for them if they weren't so relentlessly unlikeable

>>127100201
There are new indie musicians popping up on tiktok every week bro.

>>127100305
jfc zoomers are morons

>>127100318
Why? That's the opposite of corporate. No one needs labels and all that shit now.

>>127099141 (OP)
Millennials have the worst aesthetics in everything. They are so odd.

>>127099181
This. The good millenial stuff was Real Estate and Wild Nothing and The Black Dahlia Murder

>>127099224
Meanwhile in reality Olivia is an has been, one hit wonder, while Gaga had one of the biggest smashing hit songs last year

Even millenials such as Kendrick and SZA are dominating the charts and the streams, while gen z's are all one hit wonders at best

>>127100586
all of that 2000s "indie" "rock" bullshit like real estate and vampire weekend and arcade fire is fucking dogshit. I would erase all rock music from history if it meant getting rid of that shit.

>>127100908
Real Estate is as rock n roll as it gets buddy

>>127100797
I do find it funny that zoomers are currently wondering why "2025 has no hits" on social media and didn't notice that all streaming sites basically cracked down hard on bots this year and changed revenue streams to favor artists who are listened to by paid accounts and have a loyal following rather than the flavor of the week zoom zoom that is currently being shilled. Also revenue from radio play has been pretty much reduced to zero because they only play the same 10 songs over and over again depending on which label paid them the most to shill their current project, and people are bored of it. It's like they're incapable of find artists they like organically and have a need to only listen to what's artificially popular, and when their supposed "favorite artists" don't chart, they just immediately ditch them because they have zero identity.

>>127099141 (OP)
>Millenial : enjoys something original (very creative indie folk made by a raw artist who spent 3 weeks alone in a wood cabin) in an healty and original way for himself
>Gen Z : *annoyed gasp* *checks the online consensus on millenials having fun* *"it's cringy"* cringe asf no cap

>>127099141 (OP)
...these drawings are meant to be different kinds of people?

>>127101106
Yes Gen Z women fashion sense is wearing stuff that millenials consider ugly as a contrarian statement (mid calves pants, no sleeve wool sweaters...)

>>127101106
Well, they're all women, so their fashion sense is always going to be extremely contrived, which is why both look similar, but there are some differences between the two, like Gen Z wearing parachute pants while millenials wear tight jeans

>>127099181
Crank wave is good Zoomer music
>>127099141 (OP)
Every generation has terrible pop artists, that doesn't in any way shape or form discredit the actual good musicians

>>127099141 (OP)
Zoomers don't even know that what defined millenials as a genre is landfill indie in a broad definition that includes ambiant/drone & whatever with iconic bands like Time New Viking, Pocahaunted or The Mae Shi

>>127101183
>Every generation has terrible pop artists, that doesn't in any way shape or form discredit the actual good musicians
True, but it's the most popular artists that reflect the general zeitgeist of a given generation and its funny making fun of them like any other generation

Millenials are post-modernist, their fashion and general attitude is baked in facade. Hipster fashion for example was a pastiche of 20th century working class wear, which is why they featured leather jackets, sun hats or dock-worker beanies, aviator shades and weird boots but all produced and procured by non-working class fasion designers
Gen Z are Post-Postmodernism (New Sincerity et al) and their fashion is more about personal comfort than pastiche, so they have wide flowing pants and crop tops

>>127101327
Millenials insufferable cunts who hide behind 10 layers of irony
Zoomers braindead sheeps who can't have one individual thought

>>127099224
I genuinely don't believe you think this

>>127099141 (OP)
Shitty music gets popular every generation, moron.

>>127100797
>while Gaga had one of the biggest smashing hit songs last year
She only sung for like 35 seconds in that song.

>>127101327
Mostly agree, but still worlds above zoomers being a bunch of zombies with no personality at all unless they might be filmed, everything they do is a reference to some other generations nostalgia with zero context, and caring about anything or being smart is somehow embarrassing for them. Growing up on social media just completely fucked their brains

>>127101395
Gen X was the only "real" generation of the past century. Boomers are all soulless lead paint infected retards that invented useless cancer like HOAs

So millennials are essentially just Stacies after having hit the wall at this point, right? We're all just phone-obsessed milfs who are addicted to pumpkin spice lates and whatnot? That's what I've taken away from my exposure to this generational warfront.

>>127101766
>repeats what he heard from a mill in a YouTube video titled “millennials!”

>>127101793
I don't know what you're talking about. If my observation aligns with what other people are saying then that would make sense, wouldn't it?

>>127101766
She sang for 2:50 minutes out of the 4 minutes. I do wonder if Bruno's team regrets recording that song at Gaga's studio and letting Gaga's label get the rights to it. It's weird that Bruno technically doesn't own the song at all despite singing the majority of it. Guess he got jewed.

>mid-30s moms aren't cool anymore
Quality journalism

>>127101701
She sang for 2:50 minutes out of the 4 minutes. I do wonder if Bruno's team regrets recording that song at Gaga's studio and letting Gaga's label get the rights to it. It's weird that Bruno technically doesn't own the song at all despite singing the majority of it. Guess he got jewed.

>>127101766
I'm chillin, dawg

>>127101991
Sick.

'Millennia' era indie music was really good. All the bands from PNW especially. But those were all gen Xers.

>>127101807
Yes, im very familiar with the zoomer mindset
>I was told [bullshit] from a video with millions of views on it
>youre telling me you know better than [e-celeb]?
>im pretty sure I’m supposed to represent this view with passion
When you have no passion, experience or knowledge. And then you fool yourself into thinking you came to the view BEFORE the video told you what to think.

How Anthony fantano has made millions off rich zoomers donating with their moms credit cards.

>>127102079
I was born in 1994 and have never seen the video you're referring to, I was stating what I've gleamed from this pant-on-head retarded generational war that's raging. Become less confident about your intuition.

>>127102010
https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJaBDkPg3

The worst things to come from Millenials was Irony and Post-Irony and I'm glad the world is slowly starting to move away from that cancerous culture

>>127102517
I voted for "adulting." I had that word so fucking much.

>>127102517
A lot of this is just Gen X sland that Millenials reappropriated, calling something "retarded" is peak Gen X for example, teenagers were saying shit like that back in the 70s bro
>>127102540
I also voted for adulting

>>127102517
I'm pretty sure gen X high schoolers in the 80's were calling each other dweebs.

>>127102565
>A lot of this is just Gen X sland that Millenials reappropriated
true, but that doesn't make it any less a part of the millennial lexicon. did you know that "catch you on the flip side" dates back to the 70s? but we said that all the time as if we invented it.

>>127102602
>did you know that "catch you on the flip side" dates back to the 70s?
I did, in fact I've always associated it pretty heavily with baby boomer lingo. I've really heard very few people my age say it before, if ever.

>>127102602
>did you know that "catch you on the flip side" dates back to the 70s?
I did, in fact I've always associated it pretty heavily with baby boomer lingo, it being an obvious reference to vinyl records. I've really heard very few people my age say it before, if ever.

>>127099141 (OP)
there was great music but currently millennials are, as the kids say, washed

As a millennial, fucking good. Growing up so many of my peers were insufferable.
I got bullied for not following the cringe dumb ass trends and now history proves me right.

>>127102517
Voted for Adulting/Pupper/on fleek (seriously hate that ones)/ and bae

Zoomers don't even try to make new music. It's all retro revival.

>>127100991
It’s because they don’t understand that we’ve arrived at
>internet is 100% Jew shilling
>concerts don’t exist anymore
>every artist is an industry plant
They’re still laboring under the delusion that whoever makes it big is organically popular! But they missed that world by 40 years.

>>127100908
That shit is fine compared to wpop or kpop. Youre literally a piece of shit if you find that better

>>127100586
These were all awful

Is there some zoomer tranny discord running an operation on /mu/ lately. Everyday with these stupid as le zoomer vs le heckin millennial threads. Who gives a fuck? Who constantly thinks about shit in terms of generations constantly?

>>127103338
millennials did nothing but retro revivals (chillwave, vaporwave)

>>127099141 (OP)
Why do amerisharts care so much about generations?

>>127099480
As a millenial, this fucking sucks dude

>>127103733
D&C operatives. gradually make 4chan less interesting, etc

>>127103745
>>127103733
I think some of us older gens are just baffled how retarded like literally unintelligent and useless zoomers are. Its not like I want to give a shit about any of this but its sad where the future of just about anything is going. Its bleak

>>127099141 (OP)
We don’t. We millennials recognize that we made shit music in the 2000s and 2010s (sorry about pitchfork core and bling rap). The problem is that Gen Z was sold to us as the generation that would turn things around and make relevant music again. They were going to learn from our mistakes and get us back on track. And instead they doubled down on the corporate garbage and somehow made even worse music than millennials, which shouldn’t even be possible. Imagine thinking trap was cool for an entire decade.

>>127102079
Salty millenial coping with the fact his generation is seen as ultra cringe nowadays lmao

>>127103679
it's all slop. if you're going to listen to rock music, listen to rock music with some balls. and if you're going to listen to pop, listen to pop by someone who can actually sing. someone who makes you go "yes, this person is a real talent and not simply some record producer's niece who is drowned in autotuned and will be forgotten about in a month"

>>127099141 (OP)
Imagine giving a fuck about zoomie's opinion, we're talking about low testo, broccoli haircut retards...

>>127105134
Imagine thinking you know everything about everybody born within a fifteen year period. You'll now say I'm a member of gen Z because I'm saying this and there's no way I could possibly be pointing out your stupidity without being born within said fifteen years.

>>127105134
Imagine thinking you know everything about everybody born within a fifteen year period. You'll now say I'm a member of gen Z because I'm saying this and there's no way I could possibly be pointing out your stupidity without having been born within said fifteen years.

>>127103733
I think it's mostly one angry guy in his mid-late 30's obsessing over gen Z and gen Z reactively fighting back. If that dude would just kill himself then most of this stuff would dissipate.

>>127103755
Boomers used to say the same thing about you buddy

>>127099141 (OP)
The recording industry made those artists popular.

>>127099199

Two words: Ty Segall

That said I do love me some Joanna Newsom

>>127101327
Dude, I wear flannel & boots every day, I have a bigger vinyl record collection than most of the people on /mu/ and I work in a machine shop.

Personal comfort doesn’t justify dressing like a fag.

>>127102844
This is true, when I was in high school, shitty music like stinkin park, stink 182, Feminem and Cum 41 were popular.

I was listening to Pavement, the Smashing Pumpkins, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Slint, Joy Divsion, Swans, Throbbing Gristle and shit.

>>127107954
such boring bands those were

>>127105037
>if you're going to listen to rock music, listen to rock music with some balls
So, 80s stuff.
>and if you're going to listen to pop, listen to pop by someone who can actually sing. someone who makes you go "yes, this person is a real talent and
So, 50s stuff.

Blink 182 sucked they did. Just fuck Tom Delonge's vocals. Dreck for Dot Com Bubble suburban teens who played Quake on their dad's PC.

>>127107954
I have to say I especially hate pop punk.

>>127107954
>the Smashing Pumpkins, Godspeed You Black Emperor

Zoomer, you seem a bit confused… those were the gay lame bands nobody would admit to liking. Pop music for girls. If you had been cool you would have liked the magnetic fields.
>>127106163
Well retard zoomers the entire internet over like to talk as if everybody doesn’t hate them. As if “the gen z stare” isnt one of the most common subjects currently

>>127099141 (OP)
You dont know shit about millennial music. Just fuck off

>>127099394
future is a millennial

I think it's funny that they used a lesbian and a mutt to represent gen z

>>127108445
The "gen z stare" is an act of rebellion. If it pisses you off it's working.

>>127108510
>millennial music
Taylor Swift, stomp-stop-hey and Bro Country are their only contributions. Amazing.

>>127099141 (OP)
this only illustrates that women are uncool
>>127101717
forget about Israel and Russia nuke the motherfucking HOA
>>127103740
and zoomers did nothing

>>127099434
the black metal wall is so funny. not a band name, just black metal. elite poseur shit.

>>127108445
based
>>127108445
smashing pumpkins rocks hard, can play their instruments better than all those weak femindie bands like the fucking magnetic fields lmao

>>127108778
>Black Metal came about, for one reason, as a rejection of the 'mainstreaming' of Death Metal
>purposely prided itself on being extremely underground
>Black Metal gradually overtook Death Metal in popularity BECAUSE of how underground it tried to be; ironically making Death Metal less mainstream and thus more underground than Black Metal

>>127108577
>The "gen z stare" is an act of rebellion
lmao this is the peak of gen z defiance

>>127108799
the smashing pumpkins are shitty buttrock tho

>>127108852
yeah if you never touched any instruments and have zero testosterone, then yeah

>>127108852
Pumpkins, Nirvana and AiC were bands for people who weren't total losers. Those bands were better at the whole alternative thing than your obscure reverb rock band.

>>127108845
What was millenials' defiance?

The internet, the place where so much knowledge is available, where learning could be occurring, is somehow making people dumber instead.

>>127099141 (OP)
>how millennials became uncool
They got old
Zoomers will also be uncool in 10 years

>>127108903
>were bands for people who weren't total losers.
>aic
Most of the songs are about being a heroin addict. There is no one who isn't a total loser who'd associate with that.

>>127108258
>so, 50s stuff.
you're gonna tell me madonna can't sing?
https://youtu.be/G333Is7VPOg?si=45GF1Zhe-cvV5_yM

>>127108916
4chan

>>127108852
weak bait

>>127109850
A lot of zoomers are already bald or hit the wall.

>>127099141 (OP)
I don't get this article, why would I want to be cool in my 30's? That's a young man's game, now I'm just chillin.

>>127102517
Got a big enough list there Rick?

>>127099434
puerto rican whooah

>>127103733
It's Indians
>You are the millenial sir! I am young tech bilionair with big bharat cock yes! I fuck your mother and sisters!

millennial music fucking sucks but at least it's music

>>127109850
>>127110694
zoomers are going to be so fucking insufferable in their 30s and 40s that they'll make millennials look like Hellenistic philosophers by comparison

>>127109850
the oldest zoomer will be like 30 in two years, so its more like 5 years

>>127099141 (OP)
Embarrassing things as a millennial is being childless, having a shitty job, dating, not married, etc.

>>127110901
The image makes Millennials look dipshits, but the Zoomers look like insufferable cunts.

>>127099141 (OP)
At least zoomers didn't have to be dating or be classmates with the insufferable kind of cunts depicted in that image, *shudders*

>>127108916
well they protested wall street so hard we speedran to IRL 1984

>>127111058
Zoomers are by far the biggest generation of virgins percentage wise. Even millenials were getting layed left and right compared to them

>>127110901
If you're not gay or a woman then you're not really a millennial, so this shit probably doesn't apply to you.

>>127110909
No

>>127099298
SHOW ME A OLIVA RODRIGHOE SONG AS MEANINGFULLY AS GAGA's 911. OLIVA CANT MAKE MEANINGFUL SONGS ABOUT SCHIZOPHRENIA BUT GAGA CAN! SHES A BOLDER ARTIST THAN SKANK BURRO CHEESE BUTT RODRIGHO WHO SMELLS LIKE BEANS AND CURRY SWEAT RANK BO CAUSE HER WALMART WHITE POWDER DEODERANT STOPPED WORKING LIKE THE CHEAPO WHORE SHE IS
SWEAR DEMOCRATS WANT TO IMPRISON YOU FOR LIFE JUST FOR MAKING THESE COMMENTS ONLINE THEY WANT TO TRACK YOU SOOOOOOO FUCKING BAD
IF YOU SEE A DEMOCRAT PUNCH THEM IN THE FACE GAGA MAKES GREAT MUSIC BUT FUCK THE PHIZER SHILLING

>>127114143
>SHES A BOLDER ARTIST
I thought she was from New York?

>>127099306
Bring back blogs please

>>127105193
No, you just a retard, old or young, still a retard, also I bang you mom.

>>127109791

Majority of people don't use the Internet they are silo'd into social media services that spoon-feed them polemic articles/videos from the Internet to keep them scrolling 8h a day

>>127109850

Neither gen were or are cool.

gen alpha will bring back millennial aesthetics and gen z will be left in the dust

>>127099141 (OP)
>they're the generation that made Maroon 5, Kesha and Justin Timberlake popular?
Nigga, we didn't do jack shit, the labels buy their own crap themselves. It always has been like this since rap got popular.

>>127099141 (OP)
>>127099199
- zooms listen to music from literally any era
- millennials cry if someone else likes music not made by millennials

so millennials' music is the music made by millennials
whereas zoomer music is basically all music and they (rightly) think millennials willingly opt out of enjoying things cuz "le Boomers (millennials' literal parents) suck dude!"

Millennial are responsible for indie sleaze.

Zoomers will always be the better generation because of this.

>>127115253
Millennials love Gen X music though.

Zoomers that I've met that have a diverse taste in music are those with elder siblings.

Why does 4chan, a supposed right-wing website, always post Guardian headlines?

>>127115279
you envy them for having sex and going to parties

>>127115253
>millennials cry if someone else likes music not made by millennials
all of us grew up listening to gen x and boomer bands

>>127099141 (OP)
I always knew younger millennials were never going to take this era of their lives well at all, and we'd be getting dozens of think pieces right around now to the tune of "OMG people keep calling me MA'AM at the super market!!11!!!!"

And they've ALWAYS been cringe. ALWAYS. Watching these fucking faggots with their "Party Rockin" flashmobs and their Kesha flashmob faggotryand their "googoo gaga we're adulting" way of speaking/being and of course every other measurably corny and gay way they colored last decade, it's nothing short of a miracle that zooms find it all "cringe"

They never, EVER had a shred of a sense of irony about themselves. I don;t mean fully-cloaked in it to where nothing else exists, because that's gay too. I mean they were SO SURE they were the apex of everything cool and hip, and that it would quite literally last forever. They were dead serious about ALL of it. This is pretty much why when they reach their 50s/60s, they're going to be worse Karens than the baby boomers ever were.

>>127118210
you seem mad

>>127101327
>>127101395
>>127101713
All said by people who never interacted with a zoomer in their lives. You are getting old, get over it

Zoomer music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWlAgksUQyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cYJ5Dy_FrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjoFJ0fbqZs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbZYE4CE_U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V8NLdhGAPI
>Bold, brash, made for artistic purposes by talented musicians who long to be remembered like the great composers of the past, will be remembered by time fondly

Millennial "music"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGEiDMf01sw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RECuQaaGGfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9GZNcpbro
>Safe, subservient to the establishment, nihilistic, poor imitation of what boomers and gen Xers did better, meaningless by it's own definition, no sense of beauty, will be forgotten once the last millennial dies

Cry more, millennial. Your generation is artless and has no value to anyone, worst generation who ever lived

>>127118912
you'll get em eventually, champ

>>127099141 (OP)
But Kesha was great and the album Warrior was a great pop album.

>>127101832
Yeah im laughing my sides off about this too. Im not even sure im that uncool since zoomers keep trying to talk to my faggot ass outside of venue when im smoking and not even to ask for ciggs.

The best part about getting older is not giving a shit about being cringe>>127101840