Thread 127100976 - /mu/ [Archived: 987 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:16:28 AM No.127100976
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will there ever be another major evolution to metal? it seems like theres no more innovation left, over the last few decades atmospheric black has become huge, as well as dsbm and blackgaze but thats the final conclusion, it seems like this is the end.
Metal is over.

as for the commercial aspect, only metalcore seems to be selling well. so rip metal (shital)


https://youtu.be/wez2SWNKr7c
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:23:15 AM No.127101032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAtNa7jrI9k
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:27:28 AM No.127101081
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a long time ago i came up with the idea of rave metal, it would be like madchester meets metal, think stone roses meets Metallica.

metal already mixed with pop, rap, but has it really taken the dive into electronic dance music. i think thats the only way forward
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:33:56 AM No.127101129
>>127100976 (OP)
Whatever Mirar is doing is new and different.
>>127101081
Electric Callboy is already doing this.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:37:10 AM No.127101150
oh i also came up with the idea of "indie metal" it would be like the smiths meets metal. fuse the hipster with the metal head.

it would sound like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQZ0MFqbGwA
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:50:48 AM No.127101268
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There's a lot of room for great elaborations on established genres, maybe even new sub-subgenres (i.e. a new subgenre of black metal or something), but not wholly new subgenres like what death metal and black metal were.
Part of the problem with your question is that genre evolution can only be observed reliably in hindsight. If a new major genre is being made, you won't recognize it, and if it has been made, it is already in the past. Also, one band can start a genre, but that genre won't exist unless other bands pick up on it and develop it.
Ultimately, genres are secondary to songwriting. It's not about what colors of paint you use, but what you paint with them.
>>127101032
They look like shit.
I see the first album of theirs is metallic noise stuff, that could be cool. People combining noise with metal is nothing new though, and the often formless nature of noise music detracts from metal's focus on riffs and arrangements, so metalnoise is stuck as a niche fusion genre, and won't become an indivisible and essential pillar of metal like trad, thrash, black, or death metal.
The EDM sporkcore of Death Rave has more red flags than a Soviet parade, shan't listen to that.
>>127101081
>>127101129
>>127101150
>let's combine metal with MORE human-centric happy funtime popular music
>that's the way to go FORWARD
Fuck that.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:51:49 AM No.127101282
>>127101268
Kill yourself
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:55:40 AM No.127101320
I don't know if there has to be a lot of innovation. Metal is like folk music. It's an established sound. There are established conventions and ideas that are mixed together but it never goes to far from the path.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:56:06 AM No.127101323
>>127101268
Metal isn’t anti-human though. Only a small portion of it is, and only its most niche. I also actually don’t want more autists in the genre, those type of people don’t know how to innovate.
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Anonymous
7/20/2025, 12:56:08 AM No.127101326
>>127101320
Chud tier take.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 1:05:40 AM No.127101431
>>127101282
Yeah, don't listen to anyone who loves the music.
>>127101320
I'd agree metal has a folk music quality to it. Broadly, metal has the iteration of folk, the aspiration of classical, and is made with the tools of rock.
>it never goes to far from the path
Yes and no. Gorguts - Obscura is metal, but it was pretty fucking far from the path at the time. Only a handful of bands had tiptoed toward the horrible discordance that Gorguts leaped to.
Anonymous
7/20/2025, 3:03:37 AM No.127102323
>>127101323
>Metal isn’t anti-human though. Only a small portion of it is
Traditional metal is often human or superhuman, but we have enough human music as it is (also co-opting the sounds of extreme metal), and I don't see traditional metal evolving much without becoming in some way extreme metal, or not metal.
Extreme metal is either superhuman, inhuman, or anti-human. It incorporating the human creates either a hybrid with trad metal, or rock/trad metal in a distortion-and-growls skinsuit.
>and only its most niche.
Obscurity and inaccessibility preserves. Not that you have to stay unknown and become unlistenable.
>I also actually don’t want more autists in the genre, those type of people don’t know how to innovate.
I would agree tail-eating formalism is a kind of "autist" behavior that's anti-innovation, but there are also autists who iterate by balancing formalism with small and gradual innovations, as well as the autists focusing in on and pursuing new innovative forms not yet realized.
It is the product makers and normalfags who want to take the paint and adornments of extreme and experimental artforms and dress it on those of the normal, mainstream, and mundane. At least the hyper-formal autists understand and respect the form.