ITT: /mu/ in 1987

metallica is gay listen to slayer

WE GOT EVERYTHING YOU WANT
HONEY, WE KNOW THE NAMES

No formal breakthrough, and despite the title/lead/debut single, no social relevance move either, which given the message of "The Cross" (guess, just guess) suits me fine. Merely the most gifted pop musician of his generation proving what a motherfucker he is for two discs start to finish. With helpmate turns from Camille, Susannah, Sheila E., Sheena Easton, he's back to his one-man-band tricks, so collective creation fans should be grateful that at least the second-hottest groove here, after the galvanic "U Got the Look," is Revolution live. Elsewhere Prince-the-rhythm section works on his r&b so Prince-the-harmony-group can show off vocal chops that make Stevie Wonder sound like a struggling ventriloquist. Yet the voices put over real emotions--studio solitude hasn't reactivated his solipsism. The objects of his desire are also objects of interest, affection, and respect. Some of them he may not even fuck. A

I saw Kissinger on PBS the other night he said don't be fooled by Gorbachev he's no different from all the other Soviet leaders and don't think the USSR is going anywhere any time soon.

They invented this barrage, and they've perfected it: for close to seventy minutes, songs rise out of the roiling seas like elephant seals, bellow their hooks, and sink sleekly away. But there's a downside to the overwhelming consistency of what those who take the title literally assume is a hodgepodge. Now that they've mastered the feat of yoking elemental noise and elemental melody, their power of musical expression has apparently rendered irrelevant the meaning of individual songs. So that almost as soon as you notice one--Grant Hart's "You're a Soldier," with its sermon to the enemy, or Bob Mould's "It's Not Peculiar," with its stuttered refrain--you're not sure you trust it. A-

IMPEACH RONALD RAYGUN THE CRIMINAL WEAPONS TRAFFICKER

>>127133267
>no important metal albums this year

>>127133423
>which given the message of "The Cross" (guess, just guess) suits me fine
*tips fedora*

Nothing wrong with The Fall getting poppier

Whitesnake [Geffen, 1987]
The attraction of this veteran pop-metal has got to be total predictability. The glistening solos, the surging crescendos, the familiar macho love rhymes, the tunes you can hum before the verse is over--not one heard before, yet every one somehow known. Who cares if they're an obscure nine-year-old vehicle for the guy who took over Deep Purple's vocal chores five years before that? Rock and roll's ninth or tenth "generation" of terrified high-school boys can call them their own. And may they pass from the ether before the eleven-year-olds who are just now sprouting pubic hair claim their MTV. D+

Mannn Ozzy is crazy dude.. he’s only got another 38 years in him TOPS

Morrissey isn't gay right?

AND HERE I GO AGAIN ON MY OWN
GOIN' DOWN THE ONLY ROAD THAT I HAVE EVER KNOWN

>>127134037
Calm down, Chomsky.

>>127133248 (OP)
EVERY PROG ROCK BAND FUCKING RUINED ITSELF
EVEN BLACK SABBATH FUCKING SUCKS NOW
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING

>>127134059
Yeah none of the heavyweights have one out in '87 except maybe Ram It Down but that was just the B-sides half of Turbo.

Don't let the blues moves, twelve songs, or ace Beatle cover fool you--hired song doctors plus horns plus Mellotron ads up to running out of ideas all over again. C

Dave Pirner's songs and Chris Osgood's sound do focus their barrage-band intensity, but once again the most striking track is a slow country-folk rip, this one cribbed more or less direct from "On Top of Old Smokey." Which isn't to put down Pirner's better-than-average tunes, but to suggest that barrage meanings may not be his calling. B+

The title cut, in which the lead singer is so decadent as to copulate with a woman, is almost as sexist as the rape fantasy on the cover of Roger Waters's The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking, while "Dogs of War", i.d.ed with blues bottom, could just as easily be the tin soldiers of Waters's The Final Cut. In short, you'd never know the group's conceptmaster was gone, except that they put out noticeably fewer ideas. C

>>127134329
yay Aerosmith are back and we really wish they didn't

Let it build and ebb and wash and thunder in the background and you'll hear something special--mournful and passionate, stately and involved. Read the lyrics and you won't wince. Tune in Bono's vocals and you'll encounter one of the worst cases of significance ever to afflict a deserving candidate for superstardom. B

Fifteen years ago, when their secret weapon was someone named Bob Welch, they made slick, spacy, steady-bottomed pop that was a little ahead of the times commercially. Now, when their secret weapon is their public, they make slick, spacy, steady-bottomed pop that's a little behind the times commercially. This is pleasant stuff, nothing to get exercised about either way--no Rumours or Fleetwood Mac, but better than Bare Trees or Mystery to Me, not to mention Mirage. Marginally better, anyway. In a style where margins are all. And all ain't all that much any more. B+

>>127134679
It's Lindsey and Christine's solo albums smushed together and the abortion machine curled up in the back of the studio with a crack pipe and almost totally irrelevant.

GIRLS, GIRLS, GIRLS
GIRLS, GIRLS, GIRLS

>>127134883
oh boy this was the year that Stevie and Elton John both almost died of extreme drug abuse. just their absolute nadir.

fuck Motley Crue and their faggot poseur fans, man

>>127135100
that you, Glenn Danzig?

It may seem redundant to accuse a rapper of arrogance, like accusing a politician of seeking power, but Chuck D takes the bully-boy orotundity of his school of rap elocution into a realm of vocal self-involvement worthy of Pavarotti, Steve Perry, or the preacher at a Richard Pryor funeral. And while I know the idea is to play him off the wheedling motor-mouth of his boy Flavor-Flav, why should I like the great man's fan any more than I like the great man? They've got literary chops--amid puns more Elvis Costello than Peter Tosh, their "Megablast" is cutting anticrack narrative-propaganda--and they make something personal of rap's ranking minimalist groove. But there's no fun in these guys, which given the intrinsic austerity of the groove means not much generosity either. B+

>>127133248 (OP)
ayo where the little girls at

They were a great live band, probably still are on the right night, and despite the hooks and do-or-die production this still isn't Journey or Starship. But only on "Throwing Stones", about one middle-aged man's fear of love, do they disprove the young naysayers and old fools who've dismissed them as symbols of hippie complacency ever since the '60s. B

>>127135309
>>127135226
lol Journey lived rent free in his head back then

>>127134883
Nah, that's Mirage. On that one you could really tell all three of them weren't getting on and hoarding their best songs for the solo albums. Tango is a much more unified effort.

It's a mug's game to deny the technical facility claimed by one-upping crits and young victims of testosterone poisoning--not only does Axl cruise where other "hard rock" singers strive, but he has a knack for believability, which in this genre is the most technical matter of all. When he melds scream and croon on the big-beat ballad, you understand why some confused young thing in an uplift bra is sure it's love sweet love. But Axl is a sucker for dark romantic abstractions--he doesn't love Night Train, he loves alcoholism. And once that sweet child o' his proves her devotion by sucking his cock for the portacam, the evil slut is ready for "See me hit you you fall down." B-

>>127135021
She literally burned a hole in her septum that's how bad her coke abuse had gotten.

Ozzysisters.....our response?

>>127135384
wait, wasn't this a hair metal band last year when my cousin saw them at the Whiskey?

Bros, I got a bad feeling about a sexual assault happening to some twink named Kurt Cobain in an alley during an unseasonably hot summer in 5 years. It's all these black guys are talking about. Ghastly stuff.

>>127135429
Correct, now they're larping as a second rate American Motorhead. Dunno why Aerosmith is touring with them, probably won't sell that much.

>>127135429
Sounds like a plan we should steal in case glam metal ever falls out of favor someday. XD

>>127135485
literally who?

>>127135538
some lame Ratt wannabes if you don't live in Texas you probably never heard of them

>>127135550
There was some fag who showed up to the Slayer gig the other night in a Cinderella T-shirt he got his jaw punched in and hightailed it out of there fast.

The attraction of this veteran pop-metal has got to be total predictability. The glistening solos, the surging crescendos, the familiar macho love rhymes, the tunes you can hum before the verse is over--not one heard before, yet every one somehow known. Who cares if they're an obscure nine-year-old vehicle for the guy who took over Deep Purple's vocal chores five years before that? Rock and roll's ninth or tenth "generation" of terrified high-school boys can call them their own. And may they pass from the ether before the eleven-year-olds who are just now sprouting pubic hair claim their MTV. D+

>>127135586
was that his sister's shirt he borrowed? lol.

A devastatingly handsome baby was born this year. Legend says he got all the nurses wet with his rizz.

Maybe I should try this heavy metal stuff sometime if I ever get bored of my three gospel albums a year routine.

LIKE A DRIFTER I WAS BORN TO WALK ALONE

Anybody who thinks rock and roll is alive and well in the infinite variety of its garage-boy permutations had better figure out how these Hitler Youth rejects could crush the competition and quit simultaneously. No matter what well-meaning rockers think of Steve Albini's supremacist lies, they lie themselves if they dismiss what he does with electric guitars--that killdozer sound culminates if not finishes off whole generations of punk and metal. In this farewell version it gains just enough clarity and momentum to make its inhumanity ineluctable, and the absence of lyrics that betray Albini's roots in yellow journalism reinforces an illusion of depth--these are hateful and sometimes hackneyed, sure, but never sucker fare like "Jordan, Minnesota." A-

A devastatingly handsome baby was conceived this year but will have to wait for next year to grace the world with his presence.

You'd never know Ann Wilson was riding the catchy intricacies of hired songwriting unless you listened more carefully than the resulting trifles deserve or her relentless overkill permits. And although the camp follower in me is sometimes tickled by the mismatch, it was the professional in me who noticed it. Only in the title cut, where a failed opera singer throws down the gauntlet for the heavy metal boors she's sworn to defend, does the end justify the means. C

>>127135736
ugh, them and Aerosmith should have all died in a plane crash in 1981

>>127135736
>>127134329
>>127135602
Thanks, Desmond Child. We appreciate your resurrection of all my favorite bands from my high school years and updated them for the new gener...ah fuck.

"I would like to announce that in lieu of these damaging yet completely false plagiarism allegations I am suspending my campaign as of this week and do not intend to seek the presidency in 1988."

You know about the music and if you don't think you'll like it you won't--impeccable pop metal of no discernible substance. In short, it's product but it's interesting product because it was created for the CD age. Stick with over an hour of material after four years (how long can 12 songs be?) and being astute technocrats who've conceived for hour-long formats, namely cassettes, which outsell vinyl discs now, and CDs, which out-dollar them, they've elected to put it all on a single album. I find the cassette sound a little dim as commercial cassette sound tends to be, and although I do find myself enjoying the vinyl's warmth once I've cranked my stereo to an 8 or 9, the CD's clarity comes through decisively as the needle approached the outgroove. I mean, I have trouble perceiving these guys as human under normal circumstances. Not docked a not for not padding it into a double. C+

>>127135855
damn, Jill was like peak MILF back then

Maybe he's lost touch so completely that he's reduced to cannibalizing himself just when the market dictates the most drastic image shift of his chameleon career. But maybe this is just his way of melding two au courant concepts, Springsteenian rock and multiproducer crossover. After all, why pay good money to outsiders when your own trunk of disguises is there for the rummaging? Of course, crossover artistes can generally sing. When Bowie wants to play the vocalist, he still puts on a bad Anthony Newley imitation. C+

two more years, man. two more years. until then pass the bootlegged Iron Maiden cassette this way.

>>127136474
The 80s was a rather dull era of country tbqh.

He's more relaxed this time, because he's gotten to know his band or maybe just because he's got to less to prove, but except on the lovingly funky "We'll Be Together," no doubt a sop to the market, you're not going to catch him having fun. That would entail his getting out of himself, and from the jazzy insouciance of his Noah sendup to the aching compassion of his tribute to the mothers of the Chilean slain, the focus is always on the man singing. Pretentious, this is called, and no matter how humane your intentions it buries your subject matter in ego. B

Anybody who charges studio hackery is too narrow-minded to be able to hear pros out-doing themselves. Studio mastery is more like it, the strongest and most consistent black pop album in years, defining Jam & Lewis's revamp of Baby Sis as the mainstream and then inundating it in rhythmic and vocal power. But what made Thriller a miracle wasn't consistency--it was genius like "Beat It" and "Billie Jean" and the unknowable allure of the pure star. The closest thing to genius here is the CD-only "Leave Me Alone," which isn't all that close and also suggests what's happened to his allure--the more knowable he gets, the more fucked up he seems. This is a record that damn near wrecks perfectly good dancin' and singin' with subtext. He's against burglary, speeding, and sex ("Dirty Diana" is as misogynistic as any piece of metal suck-my-cock), in favor of harmonic convergence and changing the world by changing the man in the mirror. His ideal African comes from Liberia. And he claims moonwalking makes him a righteous brother. Like shit. B+

>>127136644
2/10 album and band

I've got a bad feeling that something's gonna go down in a Detroit alleyway in 5 years...

Though Bernard Edwards has his name on three cuts out of nine, including the definitively cock-crazy "Love Injection," you know why former Prince lackey Andre Cymone wanted sole production credit. This is his revenge--a made-to-order dance-rock sex object with better credentials than Sheila E. herself. I have nothing against women pretending they want to go to bed with me. But I found it easier to pretend I wanted to go to bed with the disgruntled former Shalamar associate when she played the flirt. C+

>>127134329
>>127135384
>>127135602
More bad Geffen albums.

Where Nebraska was plunged in a social despair he never quite made his own, this companion piece comes out of personal compulsion. By depicting the fear of commitment as sheer terror, he does the impossible: renews L-O-V-E as pop subject. First side's got distance, bravado, optimism, even a joke, but then comes one long deep look inside, so well-observed that he seems neither self-pitying nor self-important, just a decent guy with a realistic understanding of his major but not insoluble emotional problems. And although the format is almost as spare as Nebraska's, the man has worked on his sense of rhythm the way he's worked on his marriage, which means he's pleasing to hear with just a drummer or alone. Next thing you know he'll learn to dance. A

Hey guyz check out this new sick guitar from Ibanez.

FUCK Bon Jovi.

From the lyric sheet that spruces up this consumer-object-in-spite-of-itself comes a promise: "From chaos comes reason." Not in the consumer object itself though, an inedible omelette of noise rock distinguished from the competition mainly by droning guitars and drawling vocals. People consent to fascism because they think it will be more fun than this. They could be right. D+

GOT A JOB
THAT'S OK
BUT THEY GOT ME WORKIN' NIGHT AND DAY
PUNCHIN' IN
PUNCHIN' OUT
IS THIS REALLY WHAT LIFE'S ALL ABOUT?

>>127136915
Wolfie, is that you?

>>127137873
oh man i love this song

>>127136915
OH NO NO NO

Who is going to the Swingout Sister concert tomorrow?

>>127138227
I hear T'Pau is opening for them

This is the defining album of our generation

Is it me or is he losing a bit of weight?

How the hell did i get on here with only a 300 baud modem?

What a fucking year for extreme metal.

I hope it’s not all downhill from here.

>>127138313
yeah it's gonna be a few hours to download Ultima IV on my Apple II from that pirate BBS

>>127133248 (OP)
how the FUCK is Ozzy not dead? i heard he snorted a line of ANTS with the guys from Motley Crue!

>>127134059
>he isn't CAUGHT IN A MOSH
>he's probably HIDING IN THE CLOSET
>he doesn't CRY FOR THE INDIANS
ngmi

>>127138316
>discovered by Lionel Ritchie
Of course he was. Why wouldn't he be? Ugghhh...

>>127138313
the internet was built on forums. in 87, you could easily load a text-only forum. images would be outta the question tho

>>127138341
I wonder how Stevie Nicks isn't dead either?

Guys....it still hurts so much

>>127138331
Computers are for pocket protector nerds, you fucking sexless weirdo.

>>127138358
I know, I had Quantum Link on my Commodore 128

Bitches don't know nothing about Villages....

>>127138380
>only whites on the internet
>exclusively high-effort posting on forums
take me back bros

>>127138354
NICE FUCKING LIFE

>>127138282

He should find a nice woman to cook for him

>>127133248 (OP)
Man this Death band is rubbish, you can't even understand the singer and the production is godawful. They'll never have as many fans as Iron Maiden and this stuff will be forgotten when the 90s comes.

>>127138380
A good day to spend 2 hours downloading pirated vidya from a BBS, eh?

>>127137009
The last great album Bruce ever made. Nothing after that counts.

Do you guys think George Michael would let me suck his cock? I know he's 100% straight but maybe I could corner him in a bathroom

Samey samey samey is the strategy--repeat repeat repeat repeat the same four-bar theme for sixteen, twenty-four, forty-eight, sixty-four bars before Robert Smith starts to whine, wail, warble, work. Because Smith hasn't veered this far pop since he was a boy, most of the themes stick with you, and in a few cases--my pick is "Just Like Heaven," which gets off to a relatively quick start--his romantic vagaries have universal potential. But especially over a double album, the strategy gets pretty tedious unless Smith happens to be whining, wailing, warbling, or working to you. B

>>127136496
Had plenty of relatives that liked it back then

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENEDN TO MR MISTER!!!??? ANY SIGHTINGS?

>>127136474
these chicks apparently dig 50s-60s nostalgia which is why they have a Brenda Lee cover on here and the next album will be titled and feature a "Sincerely" cover

Thoughts? It's too expensive, just use metal tape.

>>127136496
The South on the whole was kinda thin on musical ideas back then that's why SRV got so massively hyped. Lack of other options.

Greatest Hits, Volume Two [MCA, 1987]
The lackluster professionalism seems like the fulfillment of his always modest gifts and ambitions, with Something Special a blip. Not counting "The Chair," which is on both records, there are five songs on that album that top anything besides "All My Ex's Live in Texas" on this one. "You're Something Special to Me," which is also on both records, isn't among them. Instead it exemplifies the factory-certified hookiness of his current singles strategy, though its plain sentimentality is a little extreme--better the mild overstatement of "Ocean Front Property" or even the mild whoop-de-do of "The Fireman." No tuneouts, that's the ticket. Just blandouts. B

I think George Michael might be gay.

I think Freddie Mercury might be gay.

I think Elton John might be gay.

But we can all remain comforted by the fact that Rob Halford is undeniably straight...

>>127138554
>>127136496
/mu/ doesn't acknowledge anything but rock and pop in here so...meh

AIDS will rid the world of homosexuals by 1994.

>>127138605
Nobody except Brazilians cares about this period of KISS.

As everybody but avant-bigots knew from hearing Wham! on the radio, Michael can prove that photogenic and popwise aren't mutually exclusive while combing his hair with his left hand. Substance, depth, simple human decency--that kind of stuff is more problematic. So the show of soul, in the grain of the lyrics as well as the voice, makes a difference. But let no one forget that the vulnerability and compassion here purveyed are staple commodities of the truly popwise, and that the album's only conceptual coup, "I Want Your Sex," stands as an ambiguous publicity stunt worthy of Madonna herself. B+

>>127138781
Haunting diner sound systems for the rest of forever.

>>127138781

This sounds like it ripped off that song. You know the song.

>>127138781
Circle in the Sand is a really cool song way better than the saccarine hit.

>>127134458
suck my ass, fag. AMLOR rules

>>127134059
1987 is the arguably most important year in metal history
see >>127138328
>first death metal studio album (Seven Churches is thrash)
>first second wave black metal release
>first grindcore album
>back-to-back thrash classics
It’s the year all of the “extreme” genres established themselves as distinct genres, as opposed to falling under the broad umbrella of “extreme” or “evil metal” or whatever magazines called it in the early 80s.

>>127139174
I have no idea what you mean.

>>127135309
You're confusing Throwing Stones with When Push Comes to Shove.
>Still GOAT album though.
>And I don't care if this is a LARP thread, and GOAT didn't exist back in 1987, I stand by my post.

>>127136644
George Clinton is still ALIVE?

>>127139562
He didn't produce that album lol that was Freakey Styley.

>>127134679
>their secret weapon was someone named Bob Welch
wtf christgau said something based?
>better than Bare Trees or Mystery to Me
oh... never mind

>>127135550
TX anon here, I heard that Panty band or whatever they're called just fired their singer and replaced him with some hick from New Orleans kek, probably never gonna get signed now.

>>127138341
Meanwhile Dio is living clean and killing it solo. Wouldn't surprise me if makes it to 90.

>>127138371
>replaced by a progfag bassist
Metalibros.....

>>127138521
>expensive
>can't reliably record bootleg concerts under your jacket
>too crisp sounding
>made by Japs aka asian jews who will buy our economy in 1991
They're a meme. Tapes are the white man's medium.

Best albums to smoke crack to?

>>127139730
Fuck off Reagan.

>>127139730
This >>127135226
Their hype man even smokes it.

No, I swear I don't have AIDS! I'm not gaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy *cough* *dies*

Rushchads, it's fucking over.

>>127138629
Hot In The Shade will be kino in a few years when it comes out.

Goodnight sweet prince.

Just listened to this, what did I think of it?

F

>>127139674
flotsam and jetsam was based, faggot

This video is cutting edge technology! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMSFqXGZ5TQ

>>127139868
Whatever, I just saw Lars and James haze the shit out of him at last night's show, he's going back to flotsam soon while they get a new bassist that isn't a prog nerd LMAO

Goodnight meme drumming god.

>>127139883
>>127139781
>Oy vey Alex, we accidentally buried your guitar under the synths AGAIN!

New Maiden kino just dropped.

>>127138605
Unlike Aerosmith or Heart their later run didn't seem to get much notice.

>>127139965
Mercury never gave KISS a lot of label support I think because Def Leppard already fulfilled that niche and were a younger, fresher band.

fuck all you fake glam metal poseurs and your mindless party trash music

It's only 20 more years until Teresa Brewer dies and 11 years until Chappell Roan is born.

>>127140196
t. Thrash virgin
Los Angeles will continue making cutting edge metal for chads in the 90s while you fags will still be in clubs lmao

>>127140196
Calm down already, Glenn. Just because Cinderella get laid more than you...

GO TWINS

>>127140196
Come on Lars, I know you're itching to steal Crue's producer because their albums sound so much better than yours.

>>127140270
>Lars
lol I just read this month's Kerrang and it's rumored his dad's a [spoiler]tennis instructor[/spoiler]

>>127140342
Is this gonna be the 80s equivalent of that smug Patti Page in a cowboy hat image?

>>127139944
>1987
um anon...

>>127140342
Fuck you Jon, just...just...fuck you.

>>127139590
The what RHCP album did he produce?

Bros...the chicks in Poison are really hot...

One of my autistic hipster friends from the Pacific Northwest just gave me this EP from some new band they saw, says the scene there is growing. I think he's full of shit.

>>127136496
Keith Whitley put out god tier country in the 80s

>>127134164
A boy in the bush is worth two in the hand
I think I can help you get through your exams
Oh you handsome devil

>>127137655
Hey, I like this record!
>proceeds to dig through a closet full of Killdozer, Big Black and Die Kreuzen records

>>127139419
It was also the year first wave hardcore died according to some sources

>>127135855
>Delaware bar association finds him innocent of all charges
That was a totally objective report not done by his buddies I'm sure.

It takes more than unsullied venality and the will to power to reign as the most revolting pop singer in Christendom. It takes active aesthetic miscalculation and, truth be told, more than a little luck. Like falling into the lame dance grooves of Jermaine Jackson and the odious megaschlock of Michael Masser, with Narada Michael Walden limited to "How Will I Know"--which becomes your breakthrough song as well as the only critically forgivable thing on your best-selling debut album in history. So this time Walden gets seven shots, with Masser down to two and Jermaine returned to the bosom of his family, and the results are forgivable--she does have a good voice, you know. C+

>>127135021
it was 86 when Stevie almost died actually a year off there

>>127135021
I noticed Elton's Wikipedia page tends to gloss over his near death experience from coke abuse in the 80s because Wikipedia mods hate putting potentially libelous stuff in a living person's article.

People think there's something cute about this schemer, but I ask you--is it really possible to be a self-made millionaire and the girl next door simultaneously? I'll take a Harvard M.B.A. any day. Paul Anka wrote his own songs too, and he had more of a flair for language. As for beats, well, I'm not going to argue with "Only in My Dreams" or "Shake Your Love." But the one she produced by herself is a flat-out dog. C+

"We've had a lot of success here; Janet's got several in the top 20 now. I might even consider making an album myself lol."

>>127140342
Just below the camera is a slut giving him head and 5 more lined up behind her.

>>127138331
can't wait for Ultima V whenever it comes out anyway it's been two years since IV

>>127145665
Have sex, computer nerd.

>>127144161
that's one of the tackiest looking album covers i've ever seen

>>127145702
t. normalnigger that goes to arcades while getting jewed out of quarters lol

>>127134679
It's the best album of the Buckingham/Nicks era Fleetwood Mac.

>>127135384
Christgau sounds like an incel.

>>127146070
he mad that Guns got laid more than him but still had to kind of acknowledge Axl's singing and songwriting chops