Now that the dust has settled, was his music even good?

Yes, shit thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNm6bucMPmY&pp=ygURaSBkb24ndCBrbm93IG96enk%3D

>>127139162 (OP)
Yeah it was cool.

>>127139162 (OP)
No

>>127139162 (OP)
Yeah

>>127139162 (OP)
never posted on /mu/ til this morning, see bunch of threads with few replies. Posted a "lyric/meaning appreciation thread" and it got archived by the time i checked back. do people come here? maybe music is too diverse in taste for how small the number of people here are to stay active. looks like only the kpop thread has energy

>>127139162 (OP)
First 3 solo albums and the first 6 Sabbath albums are top tier rock/metal. the rest is mostly negligible.

black sabbath and solo ozzy have many bangers, crazy train will be played at hocky and sports games till the end of time

>>127139162 (OP)
Yes, the industry keeps trying to push existing musicians as the new rock or metal guy and it always fails because the actual music sucks, Ozzy was good at finding talent

>>127139222
this is meta but its pretty much agreed that music is dead, rock is dead, metal is dead, electronic music is dead, rap is dying, and mainstream music has been wittled down pop girls and pop country.

its real grim times if you actually like music

>>127139222
also the kpop thread is made by bots and coomers

>>127139250
I think theres a lot of good music being made to be honest, theres more made than ever which means more slop than ever, but also tons of good stuff. recently, for example,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqnYz3Ty3Qc&list=PLodVE6xhaFnculI4yfgL5XutzExS8fZd5&index=47
thrasher ish stuff idk genre names. love the atmosphere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV9FLG2FTjo
decade old ish but tons of touhou music and covers are made in all sorts of styles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhXUngCWx7I
pretty ambient acoustic bell song for a game mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPghHTW8tSE
just good rock/metal, instrumental
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i_nc5GGIsI
good cover of a cool song thematically, ADO gotta have a voice to respect even if you hate jap stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p866CqnG8sU&list=OLAK5uy_keQt2T7DMKqVBFyUXz4YtDg4GOrYuQJbU
some ska/denpa style music, very energetic and humorous n existential
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO0WjQqkjxY
some EDM stuff

I guess a lot of jap stuff but random pulls that are modern ish, I do see something put up occasionally. I guess I dont know for western stuff as much, i guess i havent seen much modern new stuff catch my eye in reccs, but surely theres lots of small artists making something. I think a lot of passionate people fo to game OST's because music is another tool to tell their story.

>>127139358
man you typed out all that slop to try and suggest to me some weird anime girl shit lol

>>127139371
yeah, i figured mu was like that. Its more about the sound than the thumbnail for music, but you guys can have your board

Yes the first 4 Black Sabbath albums are as good as anything that has ever been put out and in the time Ozzy was a member they were all spectacular live performers

His stuff with Black Sabbath was GOAT.
Only the first two solo albums were any good.

>>127139250
>>127139358
check out bladee if you want actual good new music

>>127139162 (OP)
AI generated post

>>127139250
2024 was a banger year for metal.

You’re not looking in the right places.

>>127139477
looked him up, listened to "ask jade". I am disgusted with hip-hop/trap/rap scene or whatever, so instinctually wanna hate it but I love the lyrical artistry. hopefully the algo will remember and rec me bits and pieces of something like this to acclimate. Dont want nig beats in my reccs tho, which im sure youtube will associate.

>>127139477
lol even if you like rap baldee is god awful, only reason he is a meme is because he cultivated a cult of personality with idiots like you

>>127139596
lmao ok retard

>>127139162 (OP)
His stuff with Sabbath is absolutely legendary, but I don't like 90% of his solo stuff and I agree with what Dio said about him: Ozzy is more of a showman than a musician. Most of the heavy weight came from the musicians that played with him, such as Randy Rhoads and Jake E. Lee. Ozzy's importance came from his influence, it's undeniable that he shaped heavy metal during the 1980s and helped to put a lot of bands into the spotlight.

what happened to the sticky?

>>127140677
Half the board is Ozzy/Sabbath related right now? What would the point even be in dedicating a single thread?

>>127139250
>metal is dead
Some of the tightest shit has come out in just this decade

>>127141014
am i supposed to be able to read the band name

>>127141029
Oh so you just like rock, nevermind.

>>127139162 (OP)
No, its fucking trash

ignoring anything else he did, Supernaut is really really good
https://youtu.be/nUb0QaDjP78?si=Vi8zw4b6VlpPshVh

>>127141116
i like metal. i just think you should be able to read the band name on an album cover.

https://youtu.be/-9yYJ6ZAYns?si=ql7lYDz2dnAlKkiO

>>127139162 (OP)
Yes.

>>127139162 (OP)
No

>>127139668
not him but i agree
black sabbath is good imo

Some of it certainly was. I wont let anyone tell me Bark at the Moon, or No More Tears aren't fantastic songs.

>>127141314
*not him but i agree with him

>>127141029
Never heard of them but its Defeated Sanity pleb

>>127139162 (OP)
Yes everything up until Ozzmosis was solid and then some after. For Sabbath, I personally love the first seven albums. You wont change me off technical ecstasy is one of the doomiest songs ever written.

>>127139162 (OP)
"Inclination of direction, walk the turned and twisted rift
With the children of creation futuristic dreams we sift
Clutching violently we whisper with a liquefying cry
Any deadly final answers that are surely doomed to die
Won't you help me Mr. Jesus, won't you tell me if you can?
When you see this world we live in, do you still believe in man?
If my songs become my freedom, and my freedom turns to gold
Then I'll ask the final question, if the answer could be sold
Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it
'Cause I've got no reason to lie, yeah
Forget your problems that don't even exist
And I'll show you a way to get high, oh yeah
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah
So come along, you know you matter to me
Remember freedom is not hard to find, yeah
Time to stop all your messing around
Don't you think that I know my own mind, oh yeah
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah
Why can't you believe, it's not here to perceive
Do you always have to be told, yeah
For you have been taught that if your mind has been bought
Life's entire answer was sold, oh yeah
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah"

>>127139162 (OP)
Loved Sabbath despite Ozzy's voice.

>>127141422
He's clearly saying "get by" in the song, but you know how the hell some people out there are.

people don't like to acknowledge it but ozzy and black sabbath were symptoms of the start of wokeness in modern music

Wouldn't call it "wokeness" but there is a modest amount of some questionably liberal shit.

"no bone movies" yeah that's not really woke is it.

So on the other hand he wasn't Bathory. What was going on with their influence. we'll say that.

That's like saying demonizing metal by Christian Conservatives in the 80's inadvertently gave rise to rap. That's not true at all. The US government intervened because of tipper gore and they were forced to put labels on their tapes and cds.

so rappers would deliberately say the n word to get the label put on their record so kids would know they were "good" you know what i mean .

So it looks like it was really all marketing and whoever did something first. So rap music said so much shit that undermined rock and metal, after cobain killed himself, snoop dogg and tupac and biggie killed it all. then all turned to shit.

Ozzy was an absolute savior.

No idea with the "woke" whatever the fuck that is. Unquestionable liberal touch. His voice and lyrics are what made him. For as well as some of you people were raised, You people have the tendency to speak like fucking idiots sometimes.

If he was so wicked then why did he put his whole family on tv for the world to see. that was surley the most insane thing he ever did. Rip ozzy.

>>127141715
it was woke you boomer fuck

>>127141736
it was wop, you deviant rabble-rouser. Listen to sabotage. have a blessed night. rip ozzy

>>127141736

>>127139250
The fuck are you talking about? 2023 - 2025 have been the best years for metalcore since the 00s.

>>127141808
>>127141833
ywnbaw

music is for retards.
its ear masturbation.
its because you can't stand silence.

>>127139162 (OP)
Don't ask me, I don't know

>>127139162 (OP)
Sabbath did for metal what Elvis did for rock: codified their influences to make something new. Yes, he was good there.

His solo stuff was good in being a showcase for talented musicians and songwriters in spite of him.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-861908
Your daily reminder that Ozzy was a Zionist and played in Israel numerous times

>>127139534
>>127141014
Fart metalers would eat shit and claim that it's the best food in the world.

>>127141890
>metalcore
go back to the ball pit you little faggot baby

>>127141890
>metalcore
funny way of spelling crossover but worse

>>127142078
he'll be missed

>>127139358
>>127139477
>>127139534
>>127141014
>>127141890
Your posts showed me that it's really fucking dead.

>>127139162 (OP)
compared to the music generally enjoyed by the average person? yes
compared to the greatest masterpieces of music? no

>>127139222
/mu/ is mostly a coomer board nowadays, like every non-/pol/tard infested board on the site. they're the only freaks still dedicated enough to be interested in posting on what is culturally a dead website and also the only ones that get ostracised from other sites (especially the ones that post shit like underage girls/deepfakes/etc.)

>>127143190
to be fair this is mu and almost everyone here is 70 iq and not representative of music listeners in general

No. As much as I love the original Sabbath line up. They were great in spite of Ozzy, not because of him. With a different singer, such as Gillan, Coverdale or any other great vocal talent, they would have been even better. Ozzy has never been a very good singer. He was successful post Sabbath, due to his crazy antics, which was mostly staged, and most importantly, surrounding himself with talented people who could write music. Making the way they were treated even worse. Ozzy and Sharon are the way they are out of insecurity. Ozzy not being very talented, in the musical sense. In the marketing and manipulation sense, they're both very talented.

>>127143467
fucking Dio struggled doing Ozzy's songs, you don't have to be classically gifted to be irreplacable

>>127143190
you know you'll never be a real woman, right?

>>127141989
Yep

>>127143467
Not even Tool's singer was able to do Ozzy's songs justice fuck off.

>>127143586
>tool
sir, reddit is down the hall and to the left

Ultimate Sin is his best solo stuff, but that was mainlky due to Jakes writing and playing finesse. Sabbath was a WAY better band with Ronnie. That said, the first 3 BS albums were alright.

>>127143586
Because he’s a shit singer lmao

>>127143467
Facts. Born Again is a brilliant album

>>127139162 (OP)
now that the dust has settled, kys

>>127139358
> I only listen to video game music and Japanese music
I also listen to a lot of video game music, but it's not the only good thing out there. Although you have to be wary of what is A.I. music and what is music made by humans. My cutoff is 2018-2021. It's the safest bet that it was still made by humans.

>>127139250
You think that because you're listening to coke and ADHD meds music on the radio. Psychedelics are getting popular again so stop doomposting.

>>127143467
Ozzy's banshee wail played a HUGE part in shaping the style and aesthetics of heavy metal. It also made the band more unique sounding, which probably got them more attention than if they had a conventional sounding singer. So I think he made them more successful and influential for sure. But you're right that he wasn't a good singer from a technical standpoint. (Not that I give a shit about that.)

>>127141014
I think I came across this and it was the most basic bdm I've heard in years.

If Tony Iommi had waited a couple years and hooked up with Rob Halford, they would've formed the greatest band that ever existed. Ozzy was a fine showman and decent writer but his singing is mid.

>>127141422
Sabotage is by far the best Black Sabbath album and no one will ever convince me otherwise.

RIP king

>>127145563
He was a true American hero

>>127139230
+1

His stuff with Sabbath is top notch, and his solo career is like 50/50. Lots of bangers
>No More Tears
>Crazy Train
>Mister Crowley
>Mama, I'm Coming Home
>Bark At The Moon
>The Ultimate Sin
>Changes

His catalogue is pretty solidly "Good", with a few songs that are genuinely "Great", but his solo career veers more into the "Good" territory whereas his stuff with Sabbath was consistently "Great", mostly due to the other band members than just his vocals. Iommi and Dio talked about it a little after Heaven & Hell dropped, Ozzy's vocal style was to sing with the instrumentation which means that the songs are catchy as hell, but lyrically limited because they can only be as catchy as the music is. The Dio years offer a nice contrast.

>>127139162 (OP)
Overall, am sad he's gone, but he left behind an impressive legacy that definitely still affects the genre/industry today. Its more sad to me that we've now lost two out of the three legendary NWOBHM vocalists; first Lemmy, now Ozzy, and Rob Halford isn't faring very well health-wise either. Once he's gone, that's basically it.

>>127143190
Incoherent post.
>>127145329
What's the matter, no saxophone?

>>127139162 (OP)
AYE, AYE, AYE, AYE

Fuck yeah, it was good. I remember jamming out to some of his music on Jack FM... the world is now a sadder place w/o him. All hail the prince of darkness.

NO PORN MOVIES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TEsq4ZvoyY

>>127146837
>NO BOWEL MOVEMENTS

>>127146894
I bet he took a massive GG Allin shit when he died.

>>127146095
>Incoherent post.
The posta that I'm replying to are the incoherent ones, they claim that metal alive yet they are showing me a corpse.

>>127148468
What is your idea of metal being alive? When was the last time you think it was alive?

>>127148613
If you have to ask then it's really fucking dead.

>>127148706

>>127139162 (OP)
>was his music even good?
he didn't write any

>>127143804
Fucking this, literally no other singer, even if it was Dio, Halford, or Dickinson, or any other "traditionally talented" metal singer could make the Ozzy-era Sabbath songs as special as they were. They'd be good songs still, but they wouldn't be the fucking icons that they are.

>>127145701
>Rob Halford isn't faring very well health-wise either
Sauce? Judas Priest have been killing it lately, I saw them last fall and he sounded great

>>127149238
He's just trolling. Rob is in top form.

>>127139162 (OP)
Yes. Sabbath is god-tier, and the first two solo albums are also good.