The saddest part about legends dying is that we have no one to replace them. Who will be mourned like this 50 years from now?

>>127146169 (OP)
Kendrick Lamar

>>127146169 (OP)
that's a good thing because popularity does not mean good, it was simply a product of its time.
smaller artists can be just as good and through technology those artists are connected with the right listeners.
I will mourn the artists i know.

>>127146169 (OP)
Used to always been replacements and changing of the guard. It's kids' own faults for being faggots who started hating themselves and everything about the world they lived in.

>>127146169 (OP)
Only rock/metal has legends. EVH, Lemmy, Ozzy, whoever the fuck has been influential on present active generations.
My theory is that when you music talks about death a lot, you live beyond death. I mean my theory is that all those artists that never talk about death and only about love and stupid gay shit will trigger a disgust reaction from their fans when they die, like "oh shit they're dead, better not think about death at all, to the trash it goes". But music that talks about life and death remains historical.

>>127146743
>artists that never talk about death and only about love and stupid gay shit will trigger a disgust reaction from their fans when they die
idk why you think that
someone can't think about death unless they listen to metal?

>>127146169 (OP)
Billie Eilish

Hopefully the end of the world happens in the next 50 years

>>127146169 (OP)
Genuinely think picrel is the answer. Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! But memes and bullshit and /mu/tards aside, he's the frontman of the most influential hip-hop group of the past 20 years. Still somehow shocks people. Wildly forward-thinking. Seemingly came out of nowhere. Didn't create a genre, but might as well have. They'll still be influential and adored 50 years from now.
>inb4 you faggots pretend you never liked them
>inb4 you faggots pretend they're not that good

It's a corny cliche, but legends never really die. Ozzy and his music will live on forever because of how influential he was and how beloved he is, and not in a general popstar level of fame, he's basically every metalhead's honorary dad/grandpa

>>127146169 (OP)
modern music is garbage

>>127147014
Death Grips are a rock band, not a hip-hop group

The world is always changing. Popular acts that everyone knows peaked with Michael Jackson and Ozzy was around at the same time, hes one of the last ones we have

Taylor Swift is the closest we have to superstar now but its not just the same any more

>>127147082
Ten years out and change from TMS and we're still having this discussion, this is exactly what I'm talking about

>>127146169 (OP)
I’ve been thinking about this. There are no rockstars anymore. Who can compare to fucking Ozzy dying?
Sure in 20 years James Hetfield will probably die but that won’t have nearly the effect ozzy has

Not to mention modern rockstars, who are the new wave of modern rockstars to replace the old guard? Sleep token? Ghost? Fucking awful

>>127147114
I know. I don't disagree with you that they're the most significant band of the past 15 or so years. I'm not personally a fan, but I respect them.

>>127146169 (OP)
Its rare “replacements” happen. There will be new people with new appeals, but rarely does someone just fill the void when someone is lost.

Satan: welcome to hell, now bend over
Ozzy:SHAROOOOOON!!!!

>>127146924
>>127146169 (OP)
The world will explode when Paul McCartney dies in 5 years so you don’t have to worry

>>127147277
I feel like Paul's gonna reach at least 90, he's lived a fairly healthy life.

>>127147149
Ah, gotcha. It's kind of insane how influential their first 3 albums were/are, desu. Wild tear to go on. Really hard to imagine the current wave of experimental, innovative (by normie standards to be clear, I'm thinking of Tyler, JPEG, artists who aren't actually experimental/innovative but who read as such to the average listener) hip-hop without them

>>127146169 (OP)
- Drake because he changed rap and is the most streamed musician by far
- Bieber because massive, charismatic, childhood-to-adulthood redemption arc
- Taylor Swift because she pioneered literally not singing or playing during live performances, changing live music forever

>>127147277
>Paul McCartney
that's going to be the worst because he's a real anchor to a kind of quality that's long gone.
Paul Simon, ABBA, and the remaining BeeGees guys are too but McCartney is universally known like no one else.

>>127147277
I thought he was dead already lol

>>127146169 (OP)
See perhaps you don't get it yet, but systems die too, cause it's not really about replacement.

>>127146804
It's like "memento mori" ("remember you die") and I've seen that triggers various reactions in normies. My metalhead friends and family are pretty bummed when someone dies but it's never to the point of fucking annihilating depression in most non-metalhead people I know. Or absolute terror at the idea of dying or death, panic attacks and general anxiety with my non-metalhead friends that I eventually stopped seeing because we just weren't cut from the same cloth. Meanwhile one of my metalhead friends is a nurse and he just fucking rolls with death, every weekend comes up with a new joke about one of his patients dying you would piss yourself it's so funny.
But I'm really just taking the piss at normies here, it takes a solid mind to handle death wether you listen to metal or jazz or anything. Just the normies tend to feel disgust and hate towards death itself, and life itself.
Normies fucking suck and ruin life for everybody else on this planet.

>>127147151
Didn't mean to replace Ozzy himself, just no replacement "legends" in general

>>127146169 (OP)
>Who will be mourned like this 50 years from now
Pewdipie

>>127146169 (OP)
I can see Lady Gaga. She's had considerable influence.

>>127147568
Legends are all around, they just dont appeal to you because the times change. You can choose to adapt and find enjoyment in the new world, or dig your heels and reject.
Most people do the ladder and thats why old people get disconnected with the youth and find everything trash.

>>127146169 (OP)
Bono & The Edge

>>127146169 (OP)
Molly Rankin

>>127147456
i think all nurses are ok with death they see it all the time
whatever though

>>127146169 (OP)
So what? I don't care. All I know is that we can listen to Ozzy all we want whenever we want, like anyone else. Later generations can discover the good stuff, or they can make their own, but in the end I won't care.

Most of these legends die of old age 20+ or 30+ years part their last good output

The only really sad music deaths are artists dying during their prime, like SOPHIE

>>127146169 (OP)
As of now? hopefully no one. Honest. You are the most untrustworthy and wacked out generation. worse than x and x was very despised. It's too bad barnum and bailey is gone, They could have employed you all. There's not going to be any more musicians. Not the way it's going. Sorry to say that.

>>127148016
Ozzy's voice lost its touch after Ozzmosis.

>>127147626
Not one person will remember that dude in 50 years, or even in 25 after their death.

>>127148016
>SOPHIE
sophie who?

>>127146169 (OP)
Jimmy Page

There's never really a replacement for mythic-level superstars. You'd think they'd leave a void in their specific niche to be filled by someone else, but there's never been a mythic popstar like Michael Jackson or a mythic rockstar like Elvis since their deaths. I don't think we'll get any new mythical metal icons without metal evolving into something else.

>>127147136
Rob Halford

>>127146743
Mmmm, I think its more about authenticity than speaking about death. Marvin Gaye, I don't think, spoke about death, yet he lives on.

>>127147628
These boomer rock legends used to be the new world. Can you imagine being some old fart when Black Sabbath first came out?

>>127147136
Bob Dylan? Maybe Paul McCartney.

>>127146169 (OP)
some overrated zesty buck
not even one of the cool early 90s gangsta niggas

>>127147136
Lars Ulrich will be a sad loss to the drumming world.

>>127146743
>Only rock/metal has legends
You saying Sinatra, Ella, Miles etc weren't legends?

>>127147014
Only around 0.1% of the entire world population even know who Death Grips are.

>>127148016
Ozzy at least made good music at some point in his life unlike that fag

>>127149220
They're the same generation as Ozzy. We're talking about the current generation of rock

>>127146169 (OP)
Stu Mackenzie

>>127147136
Kgatlw will reach the same highs as them

>>127150472
Lol, meme band.

>>127146169 (OP)
I guess they met in the end.

>>127147136
I dig Ghost. I think they are underrated and largely wrongfully dismissed

>>127150557
>Ghost
>Underrated
LOL

>>127146169 (OP)

>>127147014
>They'll still be influential and adored 50 years from now.
no one knows who the fuck they are now

>Who will be mourned like this 50 years from now?

>>127146169 (OP)
>Who will be mourned like this 50 years from now?
Generic 5/10 Hoe #69,420
Billy Bob Bro-Country
Lil Poopstain
The Literal Whos
Fentanyl Fred (surprisingly didn't die of an overdose)

/v/irgin here
Brütal Legend is free on itchio for 666 minutes

>>127146169 (OP)
Andy Sixx

>>127147136
Neil Young....Steven Tyler...McCartney....Elton

>>127147136
>There are no rockstars anymore
McCartney and Jagger still walk the Earth

rock is coming back now that USAID bucks are dead

>>127147136
We have Dylan, Iggy, Jagger, McCartney, Starr Richards, Plant, Pedo Page, Gilmour, Waters
That's nothing though. Almost all of them are dead now

>>127146743
My favorite death metal singer is Michael Jackson.

>>127151270
Halford

Dave Mustaine too.
Bruce Dickinson as well.
And of course, Yngwie J. Malmsteen.

>>127151848
No
Yes
No

It'll be Metallica and that's about it

Next up is Rob Halford and the AC/DC guys

>>127151872
-t. actual zoomer who knows nothing of rock/metal

>>127151311
He looked pretty metal at some point

>>127151976
MJ was an incredible musician thougheverbeit

>>127151116
thanks lad
been meaning to play it for ages, now's a pretty good time
also how do you browse /v/ in 2025, it's fucking awful there

The 50s-60s-70s were the first lot to do costumed-up Romantic (in the /lit/ sense) popular music in the age of recorded media so it was novel. The same guys today wouldn't have legend status, put King Gizzard or Caroline Polachek back in the 70s and they'd be the ones we're celebrating today by virtue of having come up at the time it was brand new. The level of inherent musical skill/inspiration is relatively consistent between the generations, what changes and shapes the experience is the context, the technology, the narratives etc.

>>127146169 (OP)
The thing about Ozzy is that he basically got to live three lifetimes in the public eye in one go. First he was the singer for Black Sabbath in the 70s, then he was the "devil worshiper" who sung Crazy Train and bit the heads off animals in the 80s, then he was an innovative reality TV superstar in the 2000s. All three of these were hugely successful for him.

Off the top of my head I can only think of two musicians who pulled something similar off, and neither got to live into their seventies and pull off one last farewell concert just before going. John Lennon went from already being the first or second most famous Beatle to a counter-cultural icon as a solo artist, then he got popped by a maniac when he was 40. Michael Jackson went from the Jackson Five to his ultra-superstar career as a solo artist that everyone loved, then he gradually turned into White Michael Jackson and got all weird looking and may or may not have been a child molester, and he died at like 50 thanks to medical malpractice.

As of right now, there is no equal.

Beyonce, mariah

>>127146169 (OP)
me. still working on that debut album though

>>127152364
Michael Jackson is innocent. That's right, is.

You mean narcissistic astroturfed boomer ego stroking and cults of personality will die out as a phenomenon? I can hope.
It feels weird he is no longer alive though ngl. Its like your weird uncle who has always been there in your life somehow just died.

>>127146169 (OP)
Him and Lemmy were the true last of the old guard in Metal.
There will be no more Icons like them. Sad really

>>127153080
This, why is it a good thing to feel the need to mourn celebrities? What is lost with the absence of this phenomenon?

>>127153248
It's insane Ozzy lasted 10 yrs longer than Lemmy

>>127153080
He lives on in a very real way in his music. Past beliefs aside, that's how I feel when I watch old TV shows and movies. Yes, the Stooges are long dead, but they're also not.
If fact, now Ozzy will be even more legendary.

>>127153329
People are naturally predisposed to idol worship. That's not necessarily a bad thing. But in this age people are steered into worshipping incredibly questionable personalities as gods.
The strangest thing is Ozzy himself didn't really seem to like being this object and product. Ordinary Man you know. Or maybe that was just some rationalization of his. Who knows? I also don't think everything negative about Ozzy can be pinned on Sharon. She gets too much flak imo. Look up how he treated his first wife and kids before Sharon.
I get why people feel attached to his music. I do too in a way. But it's the non-stop deification that always happens when some celeb like Ozzy or Robin Williams dies that's just depraved.

*past/post life beliefs

>>127153713
>appreciate and love one of your fellow men
>who is now deceased

>OMG STOP WORSHIPING HIM!!!

Spare me.

>>127153707
He was a junkie that abused animals. I just want to call you back to reality. He's not worth valorizing. I also like a lot of the music he was a part of (not always because of him but some of his vocal performances were powerful too) but I will never see him as this legend whatever that means anymore to all you people abusing the term.

>>127153745
Your misguided deification of these celebrities goes far beyond just the kind of appreciation and love you may have for a family member or dear friend.

>>127153758
He didn't do anything unforgivable, but I'll grant you this, if it wasn't Ozzy that we're talking about, I'd be condemning him, you're right. I know what he did, anon. I've been a fan of his for about 32 years, and before that I knew of him and had heard a few songs regardless. I know how piece of shitty he got. That all sucked, man. What can I say? He more than made up for it.

>but I will never see him as this legend whatever that means anymore to all you people abusing the term.

He's a musical legend to me, anon. Believe me, I don't imagine that when he took dumps flowers came out, buddy. I don't think he was a übermensch who will find us our valor fighting reptiles deep inside the hallow Earth with the aid of the Vril-Ya Peoples, ok?


tl;dr he made me feel goo when I was most alone, so I thank God for making John Michael Osbourne.

>>127153781
There's no deification towards him by me, idiot. Glad I cleared that up for you, faggot.
Is there anything else I can clear up for you, dorkass?