Why does rock music from the hipster era fill me with such disgust?

-mediocre
-not creative
-either too ironic and detached or embarrassingly sincere
-had an unearned air of superiority

Because rock was already dead and it felt like they were parading around its corpse

It was made by boring rich white liberal kids on antidepressants.

It was all soft wussy shit. Jack Antonoff had no problem going from indie rock to writing identical songs for Taylor Swift

>>127161962
so how many of your precious boomer rockers weren't jaded liberal arts majors?

>>127161890 (OP)
because it was what your high school bullies listened to

only normie plebs listened to this shit

>>127161976
In the 60s it was jaded middle class kids who felt oppressed by postwar consumerism/suburbia and rebelled. These Millenial guys are different; they embraced consumerism and conformity. It was something to be celebrated instead of struggled against.

>>127161890 (OP)
Pitchfork indie landfill

>>127161890 (OP)
Because in your mind it represents a social class you've been programmed to hate. It has nothing to do with music.

>>127162178
Or maybe the music just sucks and is basically like white noise.

>>127162188
ok

black keys puzzle me, I kinda liked some of their stuff like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5dIrub_N9A&list=RDT5dIrub_N9A&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZa-EXC7ST4&list=RDDZa-EXC7ST4&start_radio=1

but then they release Brothers and it's the most boring unmemorable shit ever and it becomes a huge success

>>127162004
>hippies
>not consumerist
lol

>>127161890 (OP)
>the mentality
got too much attention at home and in school when young and are not motivated to prove themselves as great, they just want some more attention from anyone

>the music
their music knowledge is usually rooted in older rock, so they're limited by that. the older rock guys' music was rooted in blues, jazz, and classical which gives them great breadth and richness to draew on

>the process
is mid because the participation trophy era Millennial sad sack musicians have no discipline and are satisfied with their songs being "good enough" and don't push them to be great

>the lyrics
shit schooling results in low effort, whereas 1970's groups actually read poetry and Shakespeare in school instead of POC YA tripe

>the playing
some great players out there but if they are rooted in older rock and deficient in blues, jazz, and classical they'll always be have very limited creative reach

>>127162206
Brothers is a fine album and has a handful of songs that sounds literally exactly like this. Why are you fags on this board so fucking dramatic and need to have extreme opinions about every tiny little thing lol calm the fuck down

>>127162275
Hayley was good at reciting her shit 15 year old girl Myspace poetry anyway.

>>127162004
>>127162275
You are morons. Black Keys aren't millennials.

>>127162275
That and they're just boring people who feel nothing inside.

>>127162319
they're like on the fence between Gen X and Millenials

>>127162316
>Hayley
Who?

>>127161941
You just described hipsters. The problem is they are hipsters.

>>127161962
this mentality is what killed rock. had grunge or prog started today this is all we'd hear.

>>127161968
I actually hate Jack Antonoff so fucking much. He's unironically the only musician I have ever hated. He ruins everything he touches I have NO IDEA how people like his production it is so fucking soulless and dead and sterile and bland

>>127162435

>>127162004
Nah a lot of the OG guys were middle class hipsters too but they had a very different mentality and a vastly better command of music and culture.

>>127162454
I don't think anyone actually likes his production at least in the early 2010s it had the benefit of novelty but it doesn't even have that anymore.

>>127162454
This >>127162469, he's just too embedded in the system and labels have such direct control over what gets popular these days they literally don't care.

>>127162487
that's like Rick Rubin. at some point after the mid-90s he became the tumor that just wouldn't go away because he had too many industry connections.

why does /mu/ have so many people who hate Antonoff and Dan Nigro? clearly they wouldn't keep getting work if people didn't think they had talent.

>>127162469
I know I'm a faggot for this but I was a big fan of Lana del Rey, Lorde, and to a lesser extent Taylor Swift and he ruined ALL THREE of them one after the other, yet the albums were inexplicably critically acclaimed

It is one thing to just make bad music but he actively ruins other people's music.

Other rock guys like Bon Iver and Aaron Dressner can collaborate with pop musicians and have it not suck, I have no idea what his problem is and why the fuck they all agree to have him produce their stuff

>>127162553
low quality b8. i bet you think Mitch Miller was also talented. at least after 15 years they did eventually show him the door.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMo3hHmbMT4
I remember Christgau having a weird beef with this song for some reason.

>>127161890 (OP)
>Baruch Keys
>"Rock"..."music"

>>127162798
fooey posted that in the wrong thread nvm

If they hadnt gotten stupid popular /mu/ would say the black keys could have saved rock music