This will likely go down in retrospect as one of the most historically significant concerts since it's Ozzy and likely Sabbath's (unless Iommi and friends REALLY wanted to get back together with Tony Martin or one of the Deep Purple guys still alive in their 80's) final onstage appearance. I torrented a recording of the PPV stream and honestly it was great, every artist was playing in top form except...

>Alice in Chains
Seems like they've been struggling as a live band in recent years. William Duvall is getting older now (contrary to popular belief he's around the same age as Layne Staley not younger) and he kinda sounds like Kermit the Frog when he tries to sing the higher notes especially on the older songs.

And...

>Guns 'n Roses
You can tell Axl is really trying and he can still hit the low notes fine most of the time but his voice is fucked and he sounds like shit trying to hit the higher notes.

What did /mu/ think about Back to the Beginning?

>>127250149 (OP)
>>Guns 'n Roses
they had a show the night before so that's why axl was struggling. sure he doesn't sound like he does in 91, but he does not normally sound that bad. when you're older your voice needs more rest.

>>127250206
That makes sense. At-least he looks like he's taking better care of himself these days than he did around the time Chinese Democracy came out.

>>127250149 (OP)
>Iommi, Butler, Ward, Martin
and they can't call themselves Black Sabbath because Sharon owns the name lel

>>127250256
They could just change their name to Headless Cross or something like they did when the Dio lineup reformed in the late-2000's as "Heaven & Hell."

I don't think there's enough reverence for Martin era Sabbath for it to happen anyway.

>>127250149 (OP)
Iommi did say he’s working on a new album, I hope him and Geezer do something together because they both looked great for their age up there, dudes looked like they have another decade in them

>>127250149 (OP)
Loved it as well!

>This will likely go down in retrospect as one of the most historically significant concerts

agreed

>>127250284
Yeah they can still rock out for sure. Bill looks like he's getting pretty old but he can still drum too.

>>127250149 (OP)
>Axl
Has been having timing issues throughout the European tours. Wonder if they'll keep the issue in a rerelease

Alice in Chains wasn't that great on that concert because they havent played live together in 3-4 years,and also their last album was from 7 years ago.Jerry has been doing live shit with his solo band for the past 3 years,and maybe thats why the chemistry wasn't there,also maybe theres some tension within the band,i wouldn't be surprised if William gets fired soon and replaced.

>>127250326
What makes you think there could be tension among the band? Just curious if there's been some news I've overlooked.

>>127250149 (OP)
Alice in Chains was far from being among the worst offenders. Guns n Roses and Billy Corgan were absolute dogshit. Lamb of God and Pantera were a snoozefest.

>>127250377
I thought Corgan was fine, he didn't sound any worse than he has playing with the Pumpkins in recent years but if you dislike Corgan in general then it was probably grating.

Lamb of God I thought was fine too but I don't listen to them a lot.

Pantera was okay you can tell the band is missing something since Darrell and Vinnie are both dead but Zakk and Phil were good.

>>127250277
>>127250284
Hughes had a good voice way back when - haven't heard him lately but it'd be interesting to get him involved

>>127250149 (OP)
pay respect to the Hero

>>127250377
Meanwhile, Steven Tyler steps on stage and mogs 90% of the lineup.

Respect. Been jamming to the Toys In The Attic-era stuff since then. Forgot how smokin that band was in its day.

I'm watching it now, half way through, and I liked the covers that yungblud and Lzzy Hale did so far better than the rest, they put a lot of energy into them. AiC and Gojira got a little fucked on the soundboard. And Corgan got carried by the rest of the musicians there, his voice was a bit shit.

Plenty of it left to watch, luckily, i'm enjoying the whole thing so far.

>>127250508
It's remarkable how well that man can still sing long after his prime, and I'm not even a big Aerosmith fan.

>>127250607
>Lzzy Hale
loved her performance

>>127250615
What is Steven Tyler's secret to sounding amazing?

>>127250508
He stole the show and I think he was the oldest guy there. I thought Aerowsmith quit playing because he damaged his voice too

>>127250149 (OP)
>This will likely go down in retrospect as one of the most historically significant concerts
i noticed they held this concert during the daylight hours. obviously because all the elderly musicians have an early curfew at the old age homes they reside in

>>127250206
He needs to stop singing like it’s 1991 too. The Mickey Mouse falsetto is awful.

>>127250149 (OP)
>AiC
I thought they sounded fine
>>127250206
not just a show but a 3+ hour show

>>127250256
just call themselves Slack Babbath and voila

>>127250796
they did. they were going to do a "farewell tour" (kek) but they cancelled it after whatever happened to Steven happened
him showing up at this and killing it was a "a wild Steven Tyler appears" moment

>>127250468

>>127251347
this dude is the truth of what Metal is about.

Young broke Tony Iommi slicing his fingers off to pay his bills would have approved

>>127250935
and everyone that Sharon's fucked over should start a band and call it Back Stabbeth

Black Sabbath will continue with Zakk Wylde on vocals and Sharon's blessing

How the fuck does Araya have still such a great voice?

>>127252225
that captcha

>>127252225
Ronnie James Dio YA

>>127251347
>>127250468
The unsung hero of Metal.
The man who defeated Sharon

>>127252589
>>127252589
but how? all the money the concert and livestream earned went to charity, Sharon wasn't earning money and couldn't be defeated in this case

>>127250149 (OP)
It looked very staged to me.
It just does not make biological sense to see someone sing live then die 2 weeks later. Someone on his deathbed can't make such an effort.
So they must have used some previous live tapes.

But otherwise it was an ok show. I liked Metallica's energetic performance, you could see people around them look wowed, even though the crowd itself seemed kinda lethargic.

Axl made a complete fool of himself, he shouldn't have performed if he knew he couldn't.
Overall kinda meh come to think of it. There were few big names or great acts. But then that's metal, so can't expect much. If they could get a good SoD show that would have been something.

>>127250149 (OP)
>no doom metal
>no stoner metal
>no sludge metal
I get that Sharon wanted uber popular rock stars only, but to ignoring an entire genre of Sabbath clones is a bit ridiculous.

>>127250149 (OP)
>sleep token
Entire show disregarded

>>127253142
>genre faggotry
Go back to you know where

I thought Slayer were really fucking good, especially considering that they have not been touring for a while.
Metallica were also good. Yung Blud's changes cover was good.

GNR the biggest letdown because of you know who.

>>127252225
>Back Stabbeth
KEK

So, who would the lineup be and what instruments would they play? Let's keep it to 5 members max and only the MOST fucked over. Dead musicians allowed, for fun's sake

I'll start the debate with a low effort example
>Rhythm Guitar: Jake E Lee
>Lead Guitar: Lita Ford
>Drums: Nicko McBrains
>Bass: Mike Inez
>Vocals: Ozzy Osbourne

>>127253130
unless his death was planned

>>127250149 (OP)
Got a link to te torrent?
>Asking for my Sharon obsessed friend.

>>127253283
I saw Megadeth last year and Dave sounded fucking great. Weeks later I watched the same show on bootleg YouTube and he sounded just okay.

I wonder if zoomies even understand the outside world exists, and the audio engineering is different. All these faggots who think listening to Ride the Lighting on a cell phone speaker need to be Holocausted.

Not saying Axl didn't suck, I'm just wondering if he sounded better live. Maybe you faggots would get less KYS (You)s if you had the common sense to understand that compressed audio fed through a cell phone mic and re-fed then re-compressed again to go on YouTube to playback on your shitass Chinese-kid-built cell phone speakers might not sound so great

>>127253130
>>127253343
Ancientfag here: Unless we're TOTAL retards, we are fully aware of our own mortality and when it's time, we KNOW, so we make the preparations. You'll understand, one day, if you manage to survive that long.

>>127253359
If you can't find it yourself, you don't deserve it
Here's a link you need:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_helplessness

>>127253401
Your rudeness and insolence will not go unpunished, faggot!
I'll be looking for you......

>>127252287
Unlike Axl, Mustaine, and the others, Araya never had a good voice in the first place, and right from the start, Slayer ditched the makeup and leather pants and became the "we don't care" band. Can't fall off the pedestal if you never get on it to begin with.

>I'm old and the AoD scream isn't as hard as it sounds if you practice a little and diaphragm control. Try it next time your mom leaves the house to buy you tendies.

>>127253064
>doesn't know that "charity" is Yiddish word for "scam"
post Tri-Force, newfag

>>127253428
If you can't find a torrent on the internet, then I ain't worried. I'd be shocked if you can find both of your velcro shoes.

>>127253359
this has each act split into separate files so you can skip the stuff you don't care about
https://thepiratebay.party/torrent/79786573/Back_to_the_Beginning_05.07_2025

>>127253154
Why are 20-something white girls so obsessed with that softrock dronefest?

>>127250468
who?

I was there and this is roughly what I thought of it for what it's worth:
Mastodon - Great but few minor technical issues with sound because they were first
Rival Sons - never heard of these guys, kind of boring but good cover of Electric Funeral (my favourite Black Sabbath tracK)
Anthrax - Great but the only band to only have 2 songs which was unfortunate
Halestorm - Wasn't a fan
Lamb of God - Also not a fan generally
Supergroup 1 - Whatever, went for food
Alice in Chains - Really good but I am also a big AiC fan
Gojira - suprisingly bad for some reason, didn't expect that
Supergroup 2 - Stephen Tyler appearing was interesting but overall was kind of whatever
Pantera - I never liked Pantera and they were boring here too
Tool - Fucking amazing, need to see them live again
Slayer - Surprisingly a bit of a let down actually
GNR - Axel's voice wasn't as bad as I thought it would be but overall not a fan of GNR so, whatever
Metallica - I hate Metallica but they played live very well, have to give it to them
Ozzy - Don't care about his solo career but his singing was better than I thought
Black Sabbath - Rightly so the best performance of the day, incredible to see.

Also don't know why Jason Momoa of all people was allowed to host the show.

>>127253142
This is the biggest issue but we are never going to get bands like Electric Wizard or whatever playing a show like this.

>>127254260
Maybe not electric wizard but the melvins could and should have been there. Do sharon and buzzo have beef or something

>>127254350
Sharon has never heard of the Melvins

>>127254350
they actually started a EU tour in England about 10 days after this show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XZnG8-fgc8

the surviving members of Soundgarden were supposed to be there but it didn't end up happening for some reason

>>127254350
There's no fucking chance The Melvins would have been brought in for this. I agree they should have but it's wishful thinking. Based on the crowd there, not sure there would have been much demand for it either.

>>127254381
this

Sharon thinks in 20th century biz - biggest crowd wins. Your meme band with a cult following doesn't matter, even if they're so good they mog all the other bands.

Sex Pistols/PiL didn't show either. Anthrax was the opener, whining about the lineup shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what this concert was about.

Why did Metallica choose a shit song like Johnny Blade?

>>127255467
everyone else kept picking from the first 3 Sabbath albums

>>127255467
it's a great song and metallica actually did well covering it

>>127250149 (OP)
It was a very beautiful moment that I'm too lazy to put into words, but the Concert was beautiful and will go down as one of the greatest rock moments of all time.
Rock n roll forever
BLACK SABBATH FOREVER
WE LOVE YOU OZZY!!!!

Worst performances:
1- Billy Corgan
2- Sammy Haggar
3- The guy that sang Believer
4- Metallica

>>127255467
that's a great song though i'm surprised they didn't do A National Acrobat or Sabbra Cadabra

Is it true Sharon didn't pay the bands?

>>127254399
>the surviving members of Soundgarden were supposed to be there but it didn't end up happening for some reason
Remember when Sharon said she'd reveal the band kicked off the bill for trying to profit from the event? Soundgarden.

>>127255770
did she ever come out publically and say it was them? the SG guys said it was a scheduling thing
did she say why?

>>127250149 (OP)
Thought the lack of Birmingham bands was a bit lame, why no Quartz, especially given the Sabbath connection? Glenn Hughes as well since he's from the Midlands and a good friend of Iommi but I guess he committed the ultimate sin of being a post-Ozzy Sabbath member plus Sharon probably still hates him after their falling out in the early 80s

>>127255770
I figured it was Iron Maiden but considering how much Sharon despises Iron Maiden in general I'd be kind of surprised if she invited them there to start with.

>>127255600
No one knows or can ever know. Even if they released public financial information, you'd be retarded for trusting its accuracy. Half the faggots in here are so clueless they actually think charities exist.

Who cares anyway?

>>127255600
probably just expenses, travel, etc

>>127255568
Not even close.

1- axl rose
2- zakk wylde
3- whoever that absolute fag was that did the changes cover

https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1mebcxg/coldstream_guards_played_paranoid_at_the_changing/

>>127250300
saw them in '99. Ozzy introducing band members and shirtless Bill stands up and received scattered applause and a collective gasp. Ozzy had to urge on the crowd to more applause. now it's a quarter century later

>>127253313
Bob Daisley and Jake E. Lee are the ones that got fucked the hardest by her

>>127254381
they were on the US ozzfest bill in 1998

>>127253373
if you're singing out of tune then you're singing out of tune - makes no difference between cellphone speaker or marantz component system

>>127256892
Jake E. Lee is a class act for turning up to Back to the Beginning all things considered. He took the high road. Not that I hold anything against Daisley though.
>>127255600
They were not supposed to be paid. It was a charity event.
She did not nothing wrong in this case this time.
But I have a conspiracy theory she still did mess with Black Sabbath only letting them play four songs (they had rehearsed two more after Paranoid).

>>127254260
>Rival Sons - never heard of these guys, kind of boring but good cover of Electric Funeral (my favourite Black Sabbath tracK)

they opened for Sabbath in 2016. maybe 3 people stood up for them during their set. (Everyone was on their feet for Sabbath)

>>127256892
Kerslake and Phil Soussan too. Sharon actually physically attacked Soussan at Randy Castillo's wake; very classy.

>>127256993
The Kerslake thing wherein she finally gave Kerslake his record certifications for Blizzard and Diary (but still no performance credits for Diary) while he was dying of cancer may be her coldest move ever.

>>127257101
you'll be surprised to learn that Sharrooooon is jewish

>>127256993
It'd be interesting to compile a detailed list of all of the people that Sharon's fucked over

>>127253478
I wear 10 hole Dr. Marten boots WITH LACES, ASSWIPE!
>And the steel toes have your name on them, both left and right!

>>127257179
Off the top of my head

>Tony, Geezer and Bill
>Randy Rhoads' mum
>Daisley
>Kerslake
>Jake E Lee
>Tommy Aldridge
>Carmine Appice
>Phil Soussan
>Bobby Rondinelli
>Bruce Dickinson

>>127257179
>>127257677
Steve Joule as well appearently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM9j0C5n9Vk

>>127258043
You know what my new take on his first marriage ending is now. She was basically like
>Look. You take him. He is your headache now.
Sort of fits nicely with all the other goofy lol random arcs Ozzy had in his life.