why does deep purple seem lesser than led zeppelin and black sabbath?

Hammond organ dates them
Only two legendary albums (In Rock, Machine Head)
Too many lineup changes

>>127271046 (OP)
bad songs

>>127271046 (OP)
in rock is as good as any sabbath album and better than every zeppelin album idc

>>127271046 (OP)
Their last great album was in 1972. I blame Blackmore's autism preventing them from keeping a stable lineup and the lack of quality control afterwards. Same thing with Rainbow. 3 great albums and then nosedive. They had the capacity to be just as good, but they were obviously not a strong unit internally the way Sabbath and Zeppelin were in the 70s.

>>127271046 (OP)
>Ritchie Blackmore trying to not look really uncomfortable during photoshoots challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

>>127271046 (OP)
unstable lineup (3 different singers) keyboard based, released forgettable prog experiment albums like picrel.

I'd love to share my thoughts in this..

With Mk. 1 they released shades of Deep Purple which was among the holy trinity of hard rock and metal the first release, but arguably the weakest first release of the three, In Ritchie's own words ''It was full of covers 'cause they didn't have enough songs yet'', they they spiralled more or less redundantly in the next two records, by early 1970 both Sabbath and Zeppelin had their debuts out and specially Zeppelin was doing real good with the sales, specially in the U.S, in Ritchie's own words ''They wanted a new singer who had the voice and the looks of Plants, so they got Ian, in Ian's previous band he'd right songs with Roger so Ritchie, Lord and Paice decide to invite both in the band, creating the Mk. 2, Mk 2 was doing amazing with In Rock but Fireball was a bit weaker, Machine Head was perfect, though but by the time it came out Ian and Blackmore started to hate one another badly, Ian decided to leave the band after the successfull made in Japan and the very weak Who do we think we are, it was mostly Ritchie forcing his perspective and desire into others that deteriorated Mk. 2 at first and later in Ritchie's carreer he would do the exact same thing with Mk. 3, with Dio in Rainbow, then Graham Bonnett, then Mk. 2 again, then Rainbow again... The same reason for Deep Purple's weak spot when compared to Zeppelin and Sabbath was what made it so massively good at large amounts, Ritchie Blackmore.

>>127271046 (OP)
Because they weren't as good as Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. Both LZ and BS had six classic albums in a row, whereas DP had maybe two or three. Then Ian Gillan left and the lineup changes started.

>>127271046 (OP)
Deep Purple mk. II mogs anything zep ever did

>>127271046 (OP)
They were better than Sabbath but nowhere near Zep, in fairness no one is

>>127271046 (OP)
they were extremely talented but didn't have as much of a defined sound or vision like LZ and Sabbath did
the Blue Öyster Cult also suffers from this

Because they are. They're boring as shit.

>>127271046 (OP)
Euros like them more than Americans.

>>127271046 (OP)
led zeppelin
<<<massive power gap>>>
black sabbath
deep purple

>>127271472
For a second I thought that was the Opeth album

because while they had the instrumental talent they lacked the songwriting ability

Burn [Purple, 1974]
The hot poop is that after nine albums they finally have a frontman who can sing and write songs. The cold turkey is that the music remains the same as it ever was--as ominous and campy and Yurrupean as a vampire move. C+

>>127271046 (OP)
If you collectively combine the best work of all the lineups they’re basically in the same category as LZ & BS. They’re basically in KISS territory in terms of album quality and lineup changes—only they could play their instruments well. Ian Paice and Roger Glover are excellent rhythm players. Gillan was 8/10 singer at his best. I agree that although Jon Lord was great, almost all their songs have an organ solo and that just locks them into the 1960s. I remember asking my dad who loved all the hard rock bands like AC/DC, Ozzy, Van Halen why he wasn’t as big a fan of DP and he said “it’s the fuckin organ. Sounds like church or a Dracula movie.” I saw them with Alice Cooper and Edgar Winter Group in 2017. I was disappointed. Don Airey sucked the wind out of the crowd with a 10 minute classical piano solo. All that is to say that Blackmore is a monster guitar player. One of the best of all time. Very prickly personality that was the source for the break ups and relaunches.

>>127271046 (OP)
Too proggy, and for rock in that generation you really needed a sex symbol charismatic singer

>>127273583
He really was retarded.

>>127271046 (OP)
because they are. their studio efforts are far weaker.

>>127273671
When I saw them about a decade ago, Airey's solo spot wasn't really that long, he just played some scales on his Hammond absurdly fast for a couple of minutes before playing the intro to Mr Crowley that segued into Perfect Strangers

>>127271103
yeah but that was literally the only time they were better. they never did that again.

>>127273683
Gillan and Coverdale were more attractive than Plant and Ozzy

>>127273671
how can anyone hate the organ? It's the best part of it for me
really sets them apart from the average classic rock four-piece
>>127273683
Ian Gillan was that guy
the man played lead in Jesus Christ Superstar
>>127272116
pretty much this
Zeppelin and Sabbath were landmarks of 70s rock
Deep Purple, as great as it was, became just another band

Machine Head is stupidly overrated. it's a hard rock album but it feels so soft. it's all muffled, there's no punch. i swear it's only claim to fame is Smoke on the Water and maybe Highway Star which btw like most the songs here feels 2 minutes longer than it needs to be. don't even get me started on 'Lazy'. the fuck even is that track? it ironically lives up to it's title, its just a 7 minute blues jam. you think that was indented? sounds to me they made that because they had nothing better.

What also did them in was Blackmore’s insistence to inject classical/medieval elements to rock which sorta places them in dork-ville with Yes and Rush fans. When Zeppelin did it with stuff like Battle of Evermore it was a cool departure from the FM radio love/sex innuendo songs. Deep Purple went full nerd.

>>127273783
Pictures of Home is the best song on the album.

>>127271046 (OP)
Uriah Heep mog.
Demons and Wizards is much better than Machine Head and Sailsbury + Look at Yourself are leagues better than Fireball

it's insane how much better the so called 'poor man's Deep Purple' is actually better than Deep Purple.

credit though to Deep Purple for making In Rock. no one can touch that fucking beast of an album.

Despite being very handsome for a Brit, Gillan's very weird sense of humour stopped him from being the typical machismo sexy lead rock frontman like Plant or Paul Rodgers - his stage banter wouldn't be blowing kisses and flirting with the girls in the crowd or preening himself, he'd be making weird in-jokes about football or doing strange voices to amuse himself.

Blackmore is a psycho but Gillan being a legitimate oddball was his foil.

Ritchie Blackmore stole as many riffs as Jimmy Page but he's not half as cool

>>127273795
it also piss off rock critics because they hated medieval/fantasy bullshit

>>127273851
he sounds based

>Ritchie Blackmore was not pleased with Graham Bonnet's hair when Bonnet joined Rainbow. Blackmore wanted Bonnet to have a more "rough-looking" image, fitting the band's aesthetic, while Bonnet preferred a more "Las Vegas" style. This led to Blackmore attempting to prevent Bonnet from cutting his hair, even going so far as to have a roadie guard Bonnet's dressing room. Ultimately, Bonnet defied Blackmore and got his hair cut short, which further angered Blackmore.

>>127271046 (OP)
Constant lineup changes and that they peaked in the mid 70s instead of the early 70s.
>>127273850
I guess you think so if you're more into prog than hard rock.

>>127273941
Heep rock harder than Purple on those albums

>>127273919
Ritchie also set one of the Rainbow member's bed on fire, while he was sleeping in it. And Dio used to tell about demons during Rainbow's recording sessions, people who were pushed down stairs and tapes stopping by themselves, but my theory is it was all Ritchie Blackmore.

>>127274013
Nah mate. The production Uriah Heep had on those early albums was also not that good. The guitars lack any kind of edge.

>>127271107
The post-Dio Rainbow stuff is pretty good especially Bent Out of Shape

>>127271046 (OP)
Jimmy Page had a pact with the Devil, I suppose Ozzy had one as well
Blackmore fail to get one for himself

>>127273795
Lord was the one pushing the classical stuff early on wasn't he? Ritchie wanted to go heavy

Why was Ritchie Blackmore such an asshole?

>>127273392
this

Made In Japan organ
mogs
Nobody's Perfect organ

>>127274037
they rocked harder with more energy, there's no denying that. Purple sounded sleepy next to Heep.

Made in Japan mogged everything Sabbath and Zeppelin ever made. Completely perfect with improvs that actually work. Take notes, Page.

>>127281422
it truly is one of the greatest live albums in classic rock
the only one that comes close is The Who's Live at Leeds, but they're not as musically skilled as Deep Purple

most of their songs sound the same, probably because of the guy who has to play organ in every song

>>127281422
>forgets how to play 0-3-5

Hush is one of my favorite songs ever but I listened to it too much and it does nothing for me now. Sometimes I get a hint at what it felt like from a cover

>>127281941
Why dont more people use distorted organ? It sounds fuckin awesome

>>127282936
It can sound good if it’s pair with the guitar riff, like the chorus in Space Truckin’.

mkii didn't last long enough as well

>>127282654
it's a work of art

>>127273783
This is exactly my take. Their music sounds so weak, it's like music played from an old 16bit video game console. Plus their songs are corny as hell. Hush is the only Deep Purple song I like.

>>127271046 (OP)
they didn't invent a genre like sabbath
and didn't have a hit as big as led zeppelin's

>>127271090
>organ dates them
THE DOORS THOUGH
PINK FLOYD THOUGH
maybe they just suck

>>127285270
https://youtu.be/iz4Kneqsk70?feature=shared

Also if you can't enjoy Burn you are gae

>>127285312
>only good song is a cover
Damn, Deep Purple really are bottom of the barrel.

>>127285310
Those are dated too, but didn't go through fequent lineup changes
Also Pink Floyd used keyboards for setting the mood rather than virtuoso soloing, and used more than just organ

>>127271046 (OP)
Made In Japan > any live Black Sabbath album

>>127271306
he's trying to hold in his urges to throttle all his bandmates