Is City Pop the equivelant of N Sync and Backstreet Boys or is it more the artistic works of Kate Bush and Prince? I'm terrified I am accidentally listening to kpop style shlock

It's the equivalent of "I really like the Beach Boys and Steely Dan so I'll make my own version"

Mr. Mister, Japan

It's neither prince, nor is it kpop. It's probably closer to Boz Scaggs. A lot of boomers there probably liked it, and a lot of young people probably thought it was pretty corny by the 90s. Upper-middle-class, technically impressive, but also maybe a little bit wanky and pretentious. I'm sure japanese yuppies listened to it while committing unspeakably evil acts towards the future.

That said, just enjoy it. Young fans have made it really annoying to listen to. It'd be nice to have somebody with self awareness.

There is no real western equivalent, hence its popularity

>>127276580
Just like anime

>>127276003 (OP)
Bryan Ferry and Sade is the equivalent.

Just Listen to the Eagles or any other 70s soft rock artist

>>127276802
Eagles don't have much of an urban feel. Which is kind of the "city" in City Pop. It's folk rock with Cali desert vibes or something.

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>>127276802
what are you on, you fucking retards

>>127276825
Billy Joel

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>>127276835
retard bot

>>127276833
I'm on nothing. Ferry and Sade are Brit sophistipop. That was the closest equivalent to city pop in the 80s in the West. It's not complicated.
City Pop itself emerged and was influenced by the 70s, but it doesn't mean the 70s themselves were the same. It was just the taking off point.

>>127276863
>buzzwords that are also wrong
kys

>>127276874
Sure, buddy. You're REEEing over musical genres and want people to die over it. And you think you're the reasonable one that should be listened to.

>>127276863
The musicianship is a big component of city pop, that is why Steely Dan is the only comparison

>>127276909
Plenty of musicianship in what I'm talking about. Sade's band were all jazz and rock dudes.

>>127276863
Its American pop and probably 10 years behind which means artists like Billy Joel and whatever was big at the time with a more Tokyo and 80s spin I guess but you can still hear the 80s influence too with some of the sounds it uses

You can say what you want but city pop but it might of came back and influenced some of the 80s music in the west. I pretty sure artists were aware of it and Japan was the second biggest economy at the time so its influence in the west wasn't 0. How artists felt about it who knows but you cant say the music didn't sound similar and different from what was going on in music from the 70s

I'm not saying the qualities the same but listen to someone like Wham or George Michael and tell me there isn't similarities and they did kind of come out at similar times

>>127276003 (OP)
Zoomers are desperately trying to revive literally every 90s genre. They do their own soulless versions that are basically like-harvesting on Tiktok.
Everything from grunge, to jungle - you'll find those little faggots on social media sucking the lifeforce out whatever they can.
The only genre their vapid generation ever came up with was mumble rap.
Jfc I wish those dopamine-drained zombie freaks would leave our stuff alone before I end up hating literally everything.

>>127276909
Abba, disco
But i can take some peoples talking points about the genre and just say that its Soul R&B music that they ripped off from black people

>>127277339
A filter of a filtered genre isn't going to be to inspiring

Actually I take that back 80s music changed with new technology being introduced nvm

>>127276580
It's funk with asians instead of blacks.

>>127276003 (OP)
Look up some of the late 70s-early 80s artists that are considered "yacht rock", like Michael McDonald, Christopher Cross, or Steely Dan. It's not too far off from those.

>>127276580
bait used to be believable

>>127276003 (OP)
>yacht rock, japan :O

>>127276003 (OP)
>N Sync and Backstreet Boys
not city poop
the artistic works of Kate Bush and Prince?
not city pop
wtf are you talking about?
just listen to some city pop and you'll see -- and if you don't idk what to tell you

>>127276249
wow
millennials are so tiresome & predictable

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>>127278512
So it's official, this shithole knows nothing about music.
the Eagles guy was funny at least

>>127278700
he's not wrong, though. i can't think of any equivalents and neither can you.
>>127276936
buddy, just no lol

>>127277339
you fail to understand that Zooms JUST LIKE MUSIC.
that's it.
they're not "trying" to do anything, they just like music and unlike old balding millennials they don't segregate by era.
you could learn from them.you'd be a happier person

>>127278878
worthless post / 10

>>127278900
Multiple equivalents (more accurately precedents) have been offered ITT. Yacht rock, sophistipop, jazz pop, etc. City pop was just aping these genres.

>>127276580
It's just disco pop, you deluded weeb

>>127276825
>Eagles don't have much of an urban feel. Which is kind of the "city" in City Pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPycOxLtZdE

im not gonna open a link of a fucking eagles song lmao

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>>127276580
It's literally just 80s american radio pop with japanese lyrics for the weeb cred

>>127278743
Shut the fuck up faggot they are rent free in your head

>>127277339
We didnt invent Mumble rap but helped it get more retardly mainstream, kept doing it and oversaturated. The faggots on TikTok will be forgotten in due time.

>>127276003 (OP)
City pop is alright. A lot of the reason it got popular was just cause it's Japanese it was more socially acceptable than similar music that was stigmatized by the rockcrit intelligentsia and hipsters for years now, like yacht rock, jazz-funk, soul, sophistipop, etc. They weren't all wrong, on average city pop is better, but the cream of the crop of that stuff got shafted
The discourse around city pop here is all tainted by nazi dogshit. You'll have the far-right weebs doing the whole anti-black angle, and you'll have even farther-right nazis doing the whole "all the nonwhites are evil, even your pet japs" shill angle fighting with them. So any threads about it on here probably just end up worthless dogshit

>>127276003 (OP)
Use your ears you fucking retard.

>>127282958
>yacht rock
isn't a lot of it actually yacht rock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On_GqeHNJh4

Stay With Me is such a perfect pop song I can't even.

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>>127276003 (OP)
>or is it more the artistic works of Kate Bush and Prince?
Kate Bush and Prince wrote their own songs and played instruments

citypop or as i like to call it, jpop

>>127276580
the english equivalent is yacht rock

>>127276863
some late 80s-early 90s does have Sophistipop elements, but late 70s-early 80s City Pop is just Japanese Jazz-Funk and Soul, while mid 80s City Pop is Synthpop. Toshiki Kadomatsu and Anri are the yardstick of City Pop, they released an album every single year of the 80s and you can hear the genre evolve.

>>127276003 (OP)
being a fanatic of japanese pop culture is not that longerniche now that it became mainstream

you’re not special because you’re a weeb

>>127290928
Yeah and so does Tatsuro Yamashita. Your point?

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>>127291113
YATTA ROCK IS SO MUCH BETTER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6M8D41ZWU

>>127282254
If Plastic Love was released in English it'd be up there with Careless Whisper

>>127276003 (OP)
question is, is all japanese 80s pop city pop, or are there 80s Japanese pop that isn't city pop? or is city pop a catch-all term for any 80s Japanese pop that is 80s pop?

>>127285542
is this still city pop or something else? either way, it sounds great

>>127291716
Omega Tribe falls under the City Pop umbrella, they are more synth-driven but still count.

>question is, is all japanese 80s pop city pop, or are there 80s Japanese pop that isn't city pop?
Not all 1980s Japanese pop is City Pop, here's a some "normal" J-Pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IssLCqVnjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DzIbqipxOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFF7FCfQTyI