"[Christgau] was kind of a running joke in New York City. He didn't really bother writing about the local scene at all, for example he totally ignored hardcore. He wasn't reviewing any of the records we were listening to, and in general he seemed kind of out of it. Yet he was the only critic in New York that everyone read."

>>127286272 (OP)
why would chirstgau write about hardcore bands that most of the public would literally never be able to hear.

>>127286272 (OP)
Because I guess hardcore was insufficiently black or feminist to interest him.

>>127286287
why wouldn’t he

I DON'T KNOW WHY
YOU WANT TO IMPRESS CHRISTGAU
>>127286287
That's the only thing critics are needed - to expose the broad public to lesser known good music. If the only thing they can do is explain to us why best-selling bands are the best then we are better off with hit charts

>>127286325
dude devoted pages and pages of CG columns in the 80s-90s to Afropop bullshit (meaning literally African music) and whatever shitty art student alt rock band he happened to like at the moment. you can tell by that point he was increasingly bored of mainstream music in general.

>>127286325
yeah but in the early 80s you literally could not buy hardcore records in record stores outside of the city the band was from. you had to trade shit with people and mail stuff across the country. that's not the audience for the village voice. it's like asking why rolling stone didn't review any whitehouse albums.

>>127286370
>hat's not the audience for the village voice
I think Thurston's complaint was more that the Voice had a near-monopoly on rock journalism in NYC back then and ignored or snubbed bands he thought deserved more attention.

>>127286401
that's the point of zines though. that's like the whole point of hardcore. if you don't like the mainstream, do it yourself.

>>127286272 (OP)
Based, he knew NYHC was shit and would be made redundant by extreme metal genres in a few years

>>127286458
NYHC is one of the most overrated scenes in history

>>127286370
i mean he did review a fair amount of country music and that wasn't usually what you'd think they'd be into.

ha ha no hardcore was well known as chud punk for meatheads who wanted to yell about immigrants and women being whores

>>127286492
country is mainstream music with nationwide distribution and airplay.

>>127286492
>i mean he did review a fair amount of country music and that wasn't usually what you'd think they'd be into.
Well not so much Waylon Jennings.

>>127286458
He doesn't like metal though

>>127286543
>country is mainstream music with nationwide distribution and airplay.

nta but nobody in NYC listens to country. come on.

>>127286515
>>>/r/ope, leftshit

>>127286568
more people probably listened to country than hardcore. "cool" music was extremely niche back then. country got played on the radip and you could find country in any generic record store. the same could not be said for hardcore.

The Record [Slash, 1982]
Now I know why this was Belushi's favorite band--Lee Ving sings like a punk Brother and just as Belushi was such a great actor that he convinced me he really was a lazy, selfish glutton, Ving convinces me he really does hate and fear queers and sluts. As a moralistic square, I must protest especially with music that at its best only resembles Mars or the Dead Kennedys. C

>>127286692
exactly. fuck this blatantly fascist band.

>>127286708
Fuck off troon.

>>127286692
OK boomer

>>127286708
you needed a critic to validate your opinion? how insecure are you?

>>127286515
> who wanted to yell about immigrants and women being

Nothing wrong with this. Youre a cuck faggot who thinks all women are beyond criticism

>>127286708
Should all music be protest music or something? Shut the fuck up you self righteous scumbag

>>127286692
Didn't their album after this have a track about how women need to shut their mouths?

>>127286515
>if only we expelled all immigrants and women were chained to a kitchen stove and beaten on a regular basis, then I would finally move out of my mom's basement and get laid

>>127287545
Silence, fascist.

>>127286272 (OP)
Whiner trust funder fag, along with James chance and gira, only for not getting good grades. Smug whiner bitches

The Stranglers also sent him death threats.

>>127286272 (OP)
So what's entire list of musicians who hated on Christgau? I know of
>Sonic Youth
>Swans
>Frank Zappa
>Billy Joel
>Lou Reed

>>127288212
The Stranglers and I think Nina Simone also sent him a threatening letter from his review of Baltimore.

>>127288155
If only they sang about feminism over Chuck Berry licks then they would get an A.

>>127288245
False. Nice strawmen. Go back to the fag you shilled so hard back in the day, fantano

>>127288245
^this

>>127286302
Nice strawmen. Christgau gave bad grades to blacks and females
>>127286401
Christgau was right, sy, swans, James chance

>>127286272 (OP)
During the period he's talking about the faggot was spending most of his time reviewing every throwaway black dancepop album of the month.

>>127287814
Funny thing is youre secretly a fascist that is why you cope so bad. You think youre special and a good person youre scum

Sy is shit so stop getting mad, tasteless fags

>>127287814
Nazis are not meant to be debated with, they're meant to be punched in the face.

>>127289037
You couldn't punch yourself out of a styrofoam box

>>127287613
>if only we expelled all immigrants and women were chained to a kitchen stove and beaten on a regular basis
If only...

Getting upset about ahitty critics is more cringe than being a shitty critic desu.

>>127289037
Youre more of a dangerous psycho than anyone you call nazi and need to be restrained and put into prison

>>127289139
very nazi response

>>127289183
Go punch your mom you fucking faggot loser

>>127289037
all commies need to be beaten to death

>>127289196
unhinged dangerous psycho reply

>>127289204
Reddit reply

>>127289223
unoriginal reply

>>127286458
That didn't blow up until the mid-80s. NYC was late on the hardcore train.

>>127286692
Absolute genius troll record. Critics took their b8 even though they thought they were too smart to fall for it.

>>127286708
when people write stuff like this are they serious or is it bait? I cant ever tell. no one would seriously think this, right?

>>127286272 (OP)
do we really need critics noawadays?
back then when music was something you had to physically find at least they could call attention to it
now that you can just click click clickety click without fucking searching much you can hear instantly whether something sounds like shit or not
fuck critics

>>127289511
now we need critics more than ever. someone needs to sift through all the garbage and find what's worth hearing. the problem is critics just talk about super mainstream shit everyone has heard of already.

I have like the exact opposite taste of christcow. Afaik the only band we both like is Local H.

>>127289555
They all seem like cuck losers trying to virtue signal or get laid more than talk about if something is good or not. So yeah totally worthless. Who the fuck needs that. Might as well go on twitter

>>127289796
You know what else is worthless? This board.

>>127286515
Correct.
And you triggered those exact losers with this post KEK

>>127286567
Didn't the old retard convince himself that Poison were a deliberate joke/deconstruction of metal? (as if Brett Michaels could be that clever)

>>127289908
So funny how much of a cringe fag you are

>>127286354
Did you want him to waste page space discussing the latest Stevie Nicks or Lou Gramm AC ballad solo album?

all "professional" critics should be gassed with zyklon b

>>127289812
yet here we are

>>127290134
Make it everyone who talks about music period and you have my vote.