Thread 127643154

No, it's not that "new music sucks", we all know the issue is more complex than that.

new music sucks

>>127643161
/thread

>Why is there no new /mu/core?
but there is. /mu/core is that selection of music overwhelmingly popular with a majority of posters. the only difference is that people dont use essentials charts any more since The Algorithm finds and picks their music for them.
the new /mu/core is Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo, kpop and jpop.
maybe not the answer you want but its undeniably the truth

>>127643161
shut up
>>127643238
then why don't /mu/ make essential charts anymore?

>>127643238
pack it up fags, we're going to Steve Hoffman forums

>>127643395
two reasons.
first, like I said, the vast majority now listen to music via a streaming service which suggests/supplies music to them so they don’t need charts to find new things to listen to. Spotify plays stuff to them automatically.
second, they’re all listening to Top40 popslop anyway so the music industry marketing machine informs them about music. they dont do personal searching/exploration for music any more. a /nu-mu/core chart would be full of the faces that are in the media 24/7. I mean, imagine it:
>hey /mu/ I really like Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo can you suggest any other artists I should check out
>sure, Anon, you should listen to Sabrina Carpenter
its completely redundant

>>127643238
the difference being before stuff got shilled out of genuine love and passion for music where as today the stuff that gets shilled is backed by major record labels advertising their product. this shit is not organic, has constant pushback from /mu/tants, and the people who are into poptimism have zero interest in music outside of current thing

>>127643460
>/mu/ fell into the Spooptify popslop algorithm and doesn't bother anymore
sad! we have to do something about this

>>127643154 (OP)
>it's not that new music sucks
It is, Usagi, it is.

>>127643395
>then why don't /mu/ make essential charts anymore?
you fags all listen to top40s shit unironically
theres no point
if you want more bad pop shit you not only have the rest of the billboard, but now you have several other entire cunts with their own self-contained top40s bullshit in korea, japan, etc

>>127643503
>we have to do something about this
WE dont
everyone else does
but go try to tell the kpop gooners to find a new band thats not gookbabblecore. they wont do it. theyre not interested.

the obv solution is a board split for bad pop music vs everything else. but everyones too pussy to make the leap and will start bitching about
>muh slow board even slower
this isnt a fucking discord. no one outside the most internet addicted faggots needs that shit. and the slower threads that last for wks instead of days would lend themselves to much better discussion.
and in either case itd be worth it just to never see another thread about generic blonde popthot #9001, or some arr rook same idol troupe from worst korea

>>127643417
the guy who invented LSD?

>>127643936
one can still make essential charts about it you know
great music discussion and fun threads could still happen even with this case
>>127643986
screw you

>>127643154 (OP)
>Why is there no new /mu/core? How come?
plebs are too lazy circle-jerking the same stuff, refusing to discover hidden obscure gems

>>127644402
okay? any "hidden obscure gem" you wanna share with us? do you think /mu/ will accept it as new /mu/core?

>>127644367
no
you should be on an entirely different boards from the rest of the /mu/tants because you arent one. youre something else. a consoomer. and almost certainly a coomer. the idea that we need to share a board with the likes of you because "lol its both music tho" is fucking retarded. its very obviously not the same thing, whatsoever, and your presence is an active detriment to everything around you
fuck off ands die

>>127643154 (OP)
There's no spirit of joyful sharing of your discoveries on /mu/ anymore. Why effortpost about my favorite, neglected artists to get 0 replies or a few scattered off-topic ad hom replies? The baseline /mu/tant is a resentful pleb who will screech and derail any attempt to discuss music they don't already like. Every good faith discussion of a lesser-known artist devolves into some fag digging through years of their social media posts until they find something about politics they can screencap

the are literally no cool bands around anymore. "music" is never just about the music. i loathe death grips but i can recognize that there was something there to rally around, a shared mythos

>>127644684
bitch all I want is actual interesting good discussions about music and more fun threads
your angry mean talking and accusations came out of nowhere and unnecesaary, not to mention untrue

>>127644723
I am sure if you look hard enough, you'll find a new cool band fron this year

>>127644414
>any "hidden obscure gem" you wanna share with us?
for sure, anime girlie :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vqMTz2gHsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAMIU7Dzsd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axrGtf1UaOE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDygg8tuuyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvqQA3YgAdE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkxzyoyXD4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og-larF9Ggw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DMogRk4Eag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXmiGkW1lMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQB6nBT4I6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBefecNTQok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xikPDt6rAfs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISjr8tlV4AY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFAKczpgYZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UynLwN8bMRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Capqb22He1o

damn I remember the days when everyone was endlessly glazing justice, my bloody valentine and neutral milk hotel. justice is actually good though and stood the test of time.

>>127644414
you ever listen to bear vs shark?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cPor0dr2Ck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTIaI49bGJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vAbbxFx0NQ
if were stuck talking about old 00s bands, why not do it with some ones most actually missed?

also another one i was listening to again recently
/mu/ liked algernon cadwallader right?
how about the joggers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZvVo-10lmY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-EU_12FV2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFGiLkDfyu8
always thought they were neat and a fair bit more interesting than your avg midwest emo thing

>>127644820
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og-larF9Ggw
Good stuff.

>>127644820
>>127644873
>Kammerflimmer Kollektief
nice. you should listen Mago - Definition of Raw Moments From a Different Perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N10cHnqD6I

>>127644908
>Mago - Definition of Raw Moments From a Different Perspective
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N10cHnqD6I
great soung-design, thanks for recommending

>>127644820
>>127644838
not my type of music but I respect it!

https://youtu.be/_LJi5na897Y?si=nDsyq87KQ83eBDlh

/mu/'s culture has drastically changed since the days of /mu/core. It was much more holistic back then, most of the entire board was on the same page with the occasional general. Now it feels way more insular and fragmented, it's like half generals now if not more and breaking that mold of discussion is a surefire way for your thread to die. Nothing breaks or unites this board the way it did 15, or even 10 years ago.

>>127643238
>>127643460
It's a combination of this and 4chan being too big and old now for there to be a consensus on anything. Election tourists diluted the culture of most boards and no one agrees on or is sincere about anything anymore. The days of there being a solid "/mu/core" are long gone, that's why there hasn't been a new chart since like 2012.

>>127643154 (OP)
everyone needs to listen to more krautrock.
everyone needs to listen to more CAN and NEU!

>>127645256
>not my type of music but I respect it!
>https://youtu.be/_LJi5na897Y?si=nDsyq87KQ83eBDlh
you listen to psy-indie rock solely?

wouldn't say i have a personalized taste

i just like well-written/produced music, regardless of the mood/genre

>>127645259
>too big
its way smaller than it used to be, traffic has dropped off a cliff. /mu/ specifically gets ~half the posts/hr that it did at its peak, plus you have to remember that a large percentage of those are in the containment threads. the number of posters outside of kpop/wpop/jpop etc is really small compared to what it used to be

>>127643161
fpbp

>>127644414
nta but i’ve got a few
https://youtu.be/SklWr_09iYU?si=aDqUSLVqgHSWBRjT
https://youtu.be/qrueTE842wM?si=mE1SCazqG6Mr8JoI
https://youtu.be/QNSPFQpWpic?si=aWgIogc0L330PsEG

Forums are dead, blogspots are dead. Old /mu/ culture was an outgrowth of those spheres. Nu /mu/ is sadly a part of the endless content scroll detritus, nothing is going to attain salience among the community because there isn't one.

Coz America is the cultural capital of the world right now. Just give it time, it will pass

Made a quick incomplete nu-hipster hop chart with biases in here. If anyone has any criticisms of would build upon it then go ahead.

>>127648924
Why would I ever listen to this, ever?

>>127648943
then don't listen to it
fucks sake

>>127649000
I'm not going to

>>127649055
what the was point of saying that shit then

>>127649098
Watch your language

>>127648924
Holy fucking cringe. fuck off

>>127648924
good chart anon
I like it

>>127649207
thank you

>>127643161
False (for proof, independent and small-label extreme metal has been great lately), though I couldn't tell you what or where the good neo-/mu/core is.
>>127643238
Those dancers who happen to sing are propped up by a mix of literal paid shills and obsessive troglodytes who shill them for free. God knows which is worse.
Even if it were all genuine, they're not /mu/core in spirit, and anyone with a lick of sense understands that intuitively. They are not community-loved artists in the way NMH or Death Grips were, love those acts or hate them.
The only part you're right about is streaming algorithms and website rankings making charts and person-to-person recommendations less important for a lot of people. I try to do both, but not as many /mu/ posters are interested in discussion or sharing now.

>>127643460
>I mean, imagine it:
>its completely redundant
That assumes even half of the popslop posting is genuine.
>>127644684
trvthmeteor

>>127644414
I like abysmal spectre

>>127649809
>False (for proof, independent and small-label extreme metal has been great lately), though I couldn't tell you what or where the good neo-/mu/core is.
Every time I ask someone to recommend me new music that doesn't suck, it's the most uninspired dreck that sounds like the piss-diluted version of another band inspired by another band.

>>127651395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUbiphxxRsU

>>127651922
>le jazz rap
I sleep, we had this 30 years ago

>>127643154 (OP)
all the old stuff has been dug up and listened to, and new music sucks

>>127643154 (OP)
/mu/-core is one millennial nerd's playlist. people can't have that much influence on entire internet communities like that nowadays because there's more than 50 people in them.

>>127651395
>Every time I ask someone to recommend me new music that doesn't suck
if you need people to recommend you new music that doesn't suck then you already failed. If you actually *wanted* to like anything new then you would listen to new music instead of just complaining.
Why don't you post something, anything, that doesn't suck and then I can tell you it sucks. It's that simple, just admit you don't put in any effort and don't even want to try. There is sooooo much great music out there

>>127651395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW3nHDvKqVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIPfTWZDeFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPiwKdI4w18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS4QuuGORlI

>>127651998
Get the fuck off this board faggot

>>127651395
That'll happen for as long as the artists and listeners of popular music have its entire history at arms length. I don't know what can be done to stop that. I guess you can use the internet's deluge of information to your advantage and find ways to filter it down to all of the music that's (hopefully) good.
What have you been recommended that was so uninspired?

maybe shit has just been bad.
but we'd like to dig up gold from the shit. who still knows how to hold a shovel?

If this board wasn't rotten I think Magdalena Bay would be current /mu/core. I mean deathgrips was but now everyone hates it, same with Radiohead and Animal Collective and everything else that used to be discussed endlessly.

>>127652718
people just grew out of death grips

>>127652718
It's because this board is rotten that Magdalena Bay has been praised here.

>>127652734
Death Grips is scary

>>127652735
Please explain. To me it's kind of similar to death grips, with basic pop rhythm and assertive screechiness, lots of great hooks and quick movement between sections and such, but it gets 1/10th the conversation that death grips got back in the day, even accounting for the drop in traffic. No hype comparitively

Maybe people think it's too close to the usual popslut stuff?

>Death Grips get super popular when Obama becomes president
Holy shit I got blacked as a teenager

>>127652852
DG was always for 13 year olds

>>127652852
>be me
>literal CHILD
>Worried that I;m not woke enough, need to understand black people and their struggle
>obsessed with black people, obsessed with their black bodies
>Listen to Steroids obsessively
>It turns me satanic, I become less pure, my mind is raped by a black man
>Literally raped by a black guy
Oh my god. Oh my fucking god

>>127652906
I was literally BLACKED as a 13 year old

>>127652182
you're mad because it's the truth and because your club will inevitably become irrelevant

>>127644414
Nearly everything that was posted in this australian underground thread and ended up on this playlist is a hidden gem

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvAj_LP76rSui2LTgMI6bg53tV4pU9hKs&feature=shared

>>127644414
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23ya4

>>127652033
The newest song there is from 1981 (also the worst)

>>127652852
yea im glad i had aphex twin instead for my childhood ZOMGWEIRDNOISES phase
richard was simply better at it
arguably had the weirder noises too

>>127643460
>they’re all listening to Top40 popslop anyway so the music industry marketing machine informs them about music. they dont do personal searching/exploration for music any more.
That has been the case for many years sadly, I have just popped in for the first time in years and while some might say its worse, it's really not. The last time I remember real exploration was when Hampus and that old trip used to do the 'world music' threads for trad folk through the alphabet.