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Anonymous
3/2/2025, 3:36:33 PM No.2035410
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What are some examples of important buildings that were torn down for car infrastructure?

I know a lot of cities in the US had entire neighborhoods leveled for freeways.
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Anonymous
3/2/2025, 3:55:17 PM No.2035413
>>2035410 (OP)
yes but those neighborhoods only had minorities so per YIMBY doctrine that was a good thing because you can't make omurice without breaking some tamago
Anonymous
3/2/2025, 5:43:41 PM No.2035422
>>2035410 (OP)
>America tore down its cities for highways, think of all the history and culture lost
>Please pay no attention as to why my 500-year-old European city has a huge freeway-sized swath cut into it for railroads, I'm sure there was nothing worth saving there
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Anonymous
3/2/2025, 6:02:32 PM No.2035423
>>2035416
I never thought I'd be fighting side by side with a phone poster. I cannot stand these kooks. They shit up this board with their proto-communist complaining.
Anonymous
3/2/2025, 6:29:45 PM No.2035427
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Anonymous
3/2/2025, 6:44:54 PM No.2035430
Jesus Christ who thought that was a good idea?
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Anonymous
3/2/2025, 8:01:16 PM No.2035436
That bridge was pretty ugly desu
Anonymous
3/2/2025, 9:44:17 PM No.2035437
>urbanists want mass immigration but also care about old buildings
Anonymous
3/2/2025, 11:03:04 PM No.2035438
>>2035410 (OP)
Yikes, that's rough
Anonymous
3/3/2025, 1:54:58 PM No.2035491
>>2035410 (OP)
It's a bridge. Why does it need a multi- room castle stuck on top of it?
The new one is ugly though .
Anonymous
3/3/2025, 5:18:30 PM No.2035507
>>2035430
The carbrain does not care about anyone’s history or heritage, it just craves more asphalt.
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Anonymous
3/3/2025, 5:26:51 PM No.2035508
The old one looks like shit desu. I’m all for preservation but uh…what are they doing up there in that building? The new one manages to be even worse which is pretty par for the course.

Bridges are one of those things where it’s a royal pain in the ass to keep old ones going and it’s often vastly cheaper to just replace them.
Anonymous
3/3/2025, 6:16:34 PM No.2035511
>>2035507
Ooooh, not the history and heritage of a fucking bridge! Now all the europoors who jumped to their death from it will have nowhere to haunt!
The old one looked cool and the new one looks like shit, fair enough. But if a bridge is insufficient for getting people and stuff from one side to the other, then it's a shitty bridge.
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Anonymous
3/3/2025, 6:35:58 PM No.2035512
>>2035427
Have you ever noticed that all these "LOOK WHAT WE DEMOLISHED FOR FREEWAYS" pictures are decades before what was actually torn out for highway construction? Seems like if a convincing argument about the right of way clearances were bad, there would be a survey of exactly what was removed based on public record/maps/city directories.
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Anonymous
3/3/2025, 8:28:18 PM No.2035519
>>2035427
I have a ton more examples of these, I’ll find them when I’m off work.
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Anonymous
3/3/2025, 8:29:32 PM No.2035520
>>2035511
But it’s not just a bridge, there’s a massive historic structure on top of it. I wonder why you’re being so disingenuous.
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Anonymous
3/3/2025, 10:38:04 PM No.2035534
>>2035410 (OP)
>useless kitch was torn down to add an additional lane
seems like a good deal to me
Anonymous
3/3/2025, 10:44:20 PM No.2035536
>>2035519
are they all examples of exceptionally ugly architecture like that one and OP's?
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Anonymous
3/4/2025, 2:06:57 AM No.2035550
>>2035410 (OP)
RIP
Anonymous
3/4/2025, 4:51:22 AM No.2035563
>>2035536
Nice try, Chang.
Anonymous
3/4/2025, 5:18:31 PM No.2035618
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Anonymous
3/4/2025, 5:19:34 PM No.2035619
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>>2035422
The train stations are the classical architecture though.
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Anonymous
3/4/2025, 6:39:29 PM No.2035627
>Greek Statue Profile Pic
Do these people see any use for cities other than places for monuments to become ruins?
Anonymous
3/4/2025, 9:24:52 PM No.2035640
>>2035618
Whoa! Kansas City! Now post the one of Dallas
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Anonymous
3/4/2025, 9:37:31 PM No.2035642
>>2035618
>>2035427
Note that every one of these types of pictures are DECADES before freeway construction.
Anonymous
3/4/2025, 10:36:04 PM No.2035643
>>2035618
I wonder why this image is so triggering to cagetrolls.
Anonymous
3/4/2025, 11:21:10 PM No.2035647
>>2035619
Some are. Some aren't, and have been butt-ugly for as long as they've existed.
Anonymous
3/4/2025, 11:31:39 PM No.2035649
>>2035410 (OP)
i started getting a lot of vids about this (old buildings being torn down) and some made up empire on my algorithm.
it's pretty weird. but it does suck to have nice buildings and stuff dismantled for more lanes.
Anonymous
3/6/2025, 4:23:32 AM No.2035690
can we just take a second to marvel at how shit this thread is?
Anonymous
3/8/2025, 9:54:01 PM No.2035932
>>2035410 (OP)
Keep your twitter shit where it belongs
Gears !MT5GearsOc
3/28/2025, 5:09:25 PM No.2037558
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>>2035410 (OP)
Sure makes for a good ragebait, but if you bother to look into it a little deeper than the english wikipedia entry (just the german one will be enough) you'll find a few more reasons than
>reeeeeeee cars

1) The bridge was too low. The part they kept was raised by 2.5m during the rebuild to accomodate the ships passing beneath it. That alone would've made keeping the towers a very costly endeavour.
2) The towers, while pretty, served 0 practical purpose. They also had no historical significance besides being part of a 72 year old bridge at the time. These didn't precede the bridge, they were just there because when the bridge was built, someone needed it to be extra pompous, which was also not exactly considered stylish in the 50s.
3) The bridge was 72 years old. This is unfortunately about the age where you get to do a major overhaul or build a replacement. The similarly constructed railway-bridge next to it had to be replaced in the 20s already due to being too weak structurally. The towers made of brick and sandstone would also have required a pretty fat maintenance budget, given how well that stuff held up in adic rain at the time. Money was a limited ressource.
4)This bridge was not in a particularly scenic part of the town. Pretty was nice but ultimately optional. See pic for reference.
5)A proper rebuild allowed for a separate ROW for the tram through the '29 part (bus-lane later). Do note how the 'new' bridges were 8 lanes + bike/pedestrians as opposed to previously 2. That's a lot of extra capacity.

If it hadn't been absurdly expensive to keep the old bridge it would've been way easier to just slap the extra lanes next to it. But inbetween the old parts of the bridge being up for a major overhaul and the need to raise it beyond what the portal-towers would allow, that didn't make sense. People didn't want to pay multiple times as much money for a bidge that didn't come close to the required capacity.
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Anonymous
3/28/2025, 5:31:04 PM No.2037560
>>2037558
Thanks anon
Anonymous
3/29/2025, 1:22:38 PM No.2037601
>>2037558
>Pretty was nice but ultimately optional
Pretty has always been optional, yet for some reason back in the day they thought it was worth it, yet during the time of the economic miracle it suddenly became unfeasible.

There's a deeper philosophical implication here which you're seemingly unable to grasp.
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Gears !MT5GearsOc
3/29/2025, 1:52:47 PM No.2037602
>>2037558
Might have to add, the additional capacity was dearly needed because crossings across the Elebe were really few and of often very low capacity.
There were only ferries west of Hamburg (quite a stretch for the geographically impared). West of this bridge there was the Elbtunnel (only accessible with by elevator, barely fit a Beetle) and the bridges also in that foto, only one of which was not for rail and that one was only for inner-port use due to being parts of the customs-zone. It's been kept in its original state and severs as bicycle path nowadays. The bridge in question remains the only non-Autobahn road-bridge across the Elbe in all of Hamburg. You have to head 10 miles east or use the Autobahn (A1 crossed a bit east since 1939). Other crossings came later.
This bridge literally doubled the road-capacity crossing the Elbe in the entire state.

>>2037601
The philosophical difference is largely that in the 1870s working class people in germany were poor as shit while royalties and rich people loved flexing their (and the cities) wealth.
In the 50s, the economic boom was coming from an abyssmal low and life was improving a lot for the lower class people in particular.
This did leave less money than before for pointless vanity-buildings though, and led to a severe increase in traffic, not just from peasants affording a car, but especially trucks, which had become very important for logistics after the war.
Mind you that bridge went through the harbor and on its northern end was and still is the Großmark (the enormous whole-sale place / central market where all small shops, restaurants etc buy). That was a lot of trucks.
Remember, common buildings from back then may have had a pretty facade because that showed the owners wealth, but behind that facade five people lived in one room and each floor was heated by a single stove. They were pretty only when seen from the street.
There was no emperor to impress with this bridge, the people needed it to work.
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Anonymous
3/29/2025, 5:05:21 PM No.2037620
>>2035519
>>2035427
Noooo squalid tenements we must preserve them!!!!!!
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Anonymous
3/29/2025, 7:47:02 PM No.2037638
>>2037620
Those are neither squalid nor tenements. The bad faith arguments simply suggest you are sneething
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Anonymous
3/29/2025, 11:00:34 PM No.2037660
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>>2035410 (OP)
How hard would it have been to just build a new bridge next to it?
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Gears !MT5GearsOc
3/30/2025, 12:21:37 AM No.2037663
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>>2037660
Very. No space left, positioning of harbor basins and river left very little space, there was no unused space on the island it landed on and the existing bridge was too low so it had to go anyway. The latter is probably the main the old stuff is gone. They raised it by 2.5m in the process to fit modern river-ships which are a backbone in moving the goods landed in Hamburgs harbor to where they are needed. With most bridges destroyed, the Elbe was cleared for a decent usable hight once the worst war-damage was dealt with.
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 12:38:03 AM No.2037664
>>2037638
>Those are neither squalid nor tenements.
How do you know?
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 12:39:15 AM No.2037665
>>2037663
Liar
>>2037558
Could've easily built the two extra spans as separate bridges, while keeping the old one intact, if not because muh meme moderrnity. (Too) many such cases, sadly.
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 12:43:25 AM No.2037666
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>>2037665
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 1:25:04 AM No.2037673
>>2037665
I want to press my thumbs into your eyeballs, palms around your neck, and bash the back of your skull into a kerb. You are leech.
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Gears !MT5GearsOc
3/30/2025, 1:33:14 AM No.2037675
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>>2037666
Bridge in question began only on that triangular island. That'd have been a weird shape of road to get around the towers. Not to talk about the access ramps on the, at the time, densely used island.
And the logistical clusterfuck of trying to raise that old, no longer viable bridge including the portals of course. This issue was separate from the the widening.
Probably would've needed a third bridge for the tram then, along with letting the portals stand there in between the lanes with no more bridges connecting them. Only after an all-emcompassing renovation of course, no way in hell 72 years including two worldwars might've taken their toll there...
This is the most recent pic I could find of the portals, from 1944.

If it helps you sleep at night, one bridge built like that was kept for museum purposes, including the decorative towers. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alte_Harburger_Elbbr%C3%BCcke
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 1:33:53 AM No.2037676
>>2037673
>Le butthurt nigger
Kys, faggot.
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 1:46:29 AM No.2037677
>>2037676
>Communist bitch
We will bury you.
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 1:50:38 AM No.2037678
>>2037675
>Can destroy unique building
>Can't destroy common buildings (that ended up destroyed anyway)
>Could've still kept building while building new bridge
>Loses sleep over spilled milk
...
>>2037677
>Gommunists
>Preservation
Kys, fuckwit
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 3:12:40 AM No.2037679
>>2037678
A rose by any other name would smell as shit.
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 3:21:32 AM No.2037680
>>2037679
A shit by any other name would still be you
Anonymous
3/30/2025, 3:49:55 AM No.2037682
>>2037558
>answer turns out to be far more complicated and reasonable than urbanists think
best post ITT, here's a (you)
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 7:58:15 AM No.2037684
>>2037602
>muh evil rich people muh poor exploited workers
Holy commie cope Batman.
The rich have always been rich and still are, if you want to pretend we live in a workers utopia because people now live in two or three rooms rather than one and don't have children (and can afford mpre things *because* they don't have children) that's up to you.
At least rich people back in the day built some nice things for the enjoyment of everyone, they actually gave something back to society, while nowadays the rich simply spend their money on hookers and blow and NGOs that import brown people into the cities while the workers are just as fucked as they always were. And the cities now spend millions and billions on the new Flüchtlingsheim while infrastructure is crumbling and cities are dominated by soul-crushing ugliness.
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 7:59:46 AM No.2037685
>>2037682
Bullshit utilitarian cope isn't a complicated answer. You can always find the problem in every solution.
Anonymous
3/30/2025, 8:08:10 AM No.2037687
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>a-acktchually it w-would have b-been t-too complicated to k-keep the old bridge b-because
>*cope noises*
Meanwhile in Switzerland they literally moved an entire building so it wouldn't have to be torn down when a train station was expanded. And it wasn't even a particularly magnificent one, just an old office building which the people in the area appreciated.
Damn those swiss aristocrats flexing their wealth!
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Gears !MT5GearsOc
3/30/2025, 12:16:11 PM No.2037700
>>2037678
>unique
they had three bridges like it and kept one as a museum - admittandly, one that was not in the way and cheaper in upkeep
>common buildings
were actually useful rather than in acute need of investment to remain a monument in an industrial zone.
>could've kept building
But at what cost? Bit expensive to give people someting pretty too look at while standing in traffic-jams (which is the only reason anyone would've spent time in that area in the 20th century).

>>2037684
dunno, it sure isn't comfy on minimum wage and was worse in '59 still but beats the condidions 150 year ago any day. Seethe all you want about that.
Indeed, spending is currently going all over place and infrastructure is in poor shape. I'd also agreee that some more pretty things would be well appreciated.
Still that one specifically, I understand why they didn't keep it. It's not that hard.
Bear in mind that in the late 1950s the budget for vanity projects was limited and there were other pretty buildings in need of funding.
Bear in mind that at this point the country was channeling much of its investment capabilities into catching up with all the maintenance and modernizations deferred because of the war itself and all the years it took to get things back to barely-working condition after that. They didn't have time and money for bullshit, which that silly little castle-replica was considered to be.

>>2037687
Only 54 years later. It's been done more often of course, but I doubt that technology was readily available in the late 50s. Most likely also plenty of time and money available to pull it off.
You might also notice that they did keep a part of the old bridge that was still good.
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Anonymous
3/30/2025, 6:59:52 PM No.2037727
>>2037664
They are small three story buildings that appear to be in good condition. What is your evidence to the contrary?
Anonymous
4/12/2025, 12:09:26 AM No.2038619
>>2035512
The camera man would probably get robbed trying to take a picture right before.
Anonymous
4/12/2025, 1:45:13 AM No.2038633
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>>2037700
>I doubt that technology was readily available in the late 50s
Check out this newspaper snippet from 1823.
https://nike-of-samothrace.net/csc.html#y1823_m06_d16

Pic is elsewhere on that page. Interesting stuff.
Anonymous
5/2/2025, 4:52:33 PM No.2039409
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Car infrastructure doesn’t just destroy the space it occupies, it contributes to destruction of the entire neighborhood around it.
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Anonymous
5/2/2025, 6:35:40 PM No.2039413
>>2039409
>vibrant neighborhood
>downtown kansas city
??????????????
Anonymous
5/2/2025, 7:12:17 PM No.2039416
>>2037558
>1) The bridge was too low.
Too low for modern container ship probably. God forbid you can't move the amount of imported trash directly into city centers that the overproduction crisis demeans.
>2) The towers, while pretty, served 0 practical purpose. They also had no historical significance besides being part of a 72 year old bridge at the time. These didn't precede the bridge, they were just there because when the bridge was built, someone needed it to be extra pompous, which was also not exactly considered stylish in the 50s.
As decided by 50s bureaucrats. Nothing is inherently worth preserving the question is who decides what is.
>4)This bridge was not in a particularly scenic part of the town. Pretty was nice but ultimately optional. See pic for reference.
You know how cities become beautiful? It's building by building over time.
>5)A proper rebuild allowed for a separate ROW for the tram through the '29 part (bus-lane later). Do note how the 'new' bridges were 8 lanes + bike/pedestrians as opposed to previously 2. That's a lot of extra capacity.
idgaf, any extra capacity went to car lanes and bus lanes have less capacity than a set of tram tracks.
Anonymous
5/2/2025, 8:52:46 PM No.2039419
>>2039409
Urbanists should praise Interstates and parking lots, if it hadn't been for them no one would have been going downtown after the 60s
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Anonymous
5/2/2025, 10:15:17 PM No.2039429
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Feels bad man
There’s no telling how different things could have turned out for these cities if they hadn’t razed their downtowns. Birmingham and Atlanta used to be comparable sizes.
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Anonymous
5/2/2025, 11:14:29 PM No.2039432
>>2039429
>Huge station the railroad must pay to maintain and operate
>Passenger traffic in decline for decades
>Plan to redevelop the site as a smaller station + government offices fails (Terminal Station would have still been demolished)
>Station gets torn down because it's in bad shape
>Later a highway is built on the land because it's empty,
>Because the station's site was available, the need to demolish housing as previously planned was negated
DuhHhHh iT wAs Da HiGhWaY's fAuLt
Anonymous
5/3/2025, 12:52:48 AM No.2039441
>>2039419
>Be car brain
>Build suburbs
>Demand other neighborhoods accomodate their carbrain needs
>What we could have gotten instead
>Further urbanization as seen with Manhattan
>Ban the real estate price gougers who want to build cheap shitty buildings that fold in a single ef 1 tornado
Simple as. If you dont like Manhattan you are not american
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Anonymous
5/3/2025, 7:07:23 AM No.2039466
>>2039441
Projection. The usual play is people who like urban neighborhoods demand other neighborhoods should be more like them.
>no you can't have single family homes, you need to build more duplexes and apartments
>no you can't have street parking you need to have more bicycle lanes
On Reddit you can see spergouts when a bike lane gets removed because the neighborhoods that it went through didn't like that it fucked up the street (and these aren't suburbs—these are often solidly blue urban areas) and act like the residents are in the wrong and this is like the Holocaust but for bicycles.
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Anonymous
5/4/2025, 6:14:23 PM No.2039554
>>2035410 (OP)
Those towers were built in the 1880s, thy weren’t historically important monuments.
Anonymous
5/4/2025, 6:39:47 PM No.2039555
>>2039441
>Be urbanite
>Import "diversity"
>literally cause half or more of your cities population to flee
>Whine about cars

>>2039429
Birmingham had 340k people in 1960
and 200k today
hmm I wonder what happened, must have been the fault of cars
Anonymous
5/5/2025, 12:05:30 AM No.2039579
>>2035619
this is Milan right? I really wish I spent more time in the region
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Anonymous
5/5/2025, 1:08:59 AM No.2039586
>>2039579
Yep, the Milan station is gorgeous.

>>2039429
Birmingham could have done much better with rail connection to Nashville and Atlanta. Sadly Nashville doesn't have any passenger rail either, but they recently voted Yes on their transit referendum.
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Anonymous
5/5/2025, 1:35:27 AM No.2039588
>>2039586
>Birmingham could have done much better with rail connection to Nashville and Atlanta.
They had it
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Anonymous
5/7/2025, 6:11:04 PM No.2039804
railroad park
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>>2039588
And then they dismantled it, and subsequently lost a lot of population.
They've done some downtown revitalization in the last decade but it's not going to be enough to reverse the effects of tearing down their historically important buildings.
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Anonymous
5/7/2025, 6:30:36 PM No.2039807
>>2039804
>And then they dismantled it, and subsequently lost a lot of population.
Well they still have a passenger rail connection to Atlanta and the one to Nashville existed well beyond the beginning of Birmingham's population decline (around 1960). Amtrak's Floridian served Nashville and Birmingham until 1979, and Nashville itself grew despite not having any passenger rail service after 79.

Birmingham's decline was the result of contracting domestic manufacturing, particularly iron and steel. Stop being a retard.
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Anonymous
5/7/2025, 6:53:23 PM No.2039810
>>2039807
>Stop being a retard.
Impossible. He's an "urbanist." Properly classified as Novus Communsist.
Anonymous
5/7/2025, 7:04:09 PM No.2039812
>>2039807
>they still have a passenger rail connection to Atlanta
Not a functioning one.
My parents took the train from Atlanta to Birmingham and it took 9 hours because they had to give right-of-way to freight.
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Anonymous
5/7/2025, 7:24:31 PM No.2039813
>>2039812
>Not a functioning one.
Goalpost: Moved. Birmingham's decline had nothing to with passenger rail service; stop being a retard.
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Anonymous
5/7/2025, 9:11:21 PM No.2039829
>>2039813
Ughhh, don't you understand? This is all the fault of the c*pitalists. First the oil companies are car manufacturers and now it's the railroads that are trying to destroy our cities and prevent them from becoming diverse workers' paradises like NYC.
Anonymous
5/7/2025, 9:46:27 PM No.2039833
>>2039813
But that's not goalpost moving.

Birmingham got rid of their passenger rail, then declined. Today they no longer have functioning passenger rail.
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Anonymous
5/7/2025, 10:02:28 PM No.2039834
>>2039466
Most of the whining is squarely on single family homeowners whining that anything but their Living situation is not allowed and that the only thing that matters is that they get to park their car for free. A bike path only helps mobility and properly made ones like the Netherlands can actually be used as slip lanes for emergency vehicles (that are blocked solely by cars as usual). The only reason bike lanes and street calming are annoying for delivery vehicles in north America is because for some retarded reason they send 18 wheelers downtown to deliver things, only box trucks and vans should be used in an urban area.
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Anonymous
5/7/2025, 10:10:07 PM No.2039835
>>2039833
>Birmingham peak population: 1960
>Beginning of Amtrak: 1971 (+11 years)
>Last service to Nashville: 1979 (+19 years)
>Service to Atlanta: Never discontinued
Stop being a retard.
Anonymous
5/19/2025, 2:26:40 AM No.2040822
>>2039409
>DTKC

Those buildings were not turned into parking lots because they were needed they were turned into parking lots to prevent blight
Anonymous
5/19/2025, 5:32:45 PM No.2040861
>>2039834
>single family homeowners whining that anything but their Living situation is not allowed
why are you so hellbent to raze their housing to the ground and shove them into some overcrowded ghetto?
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 7:24:02 AM No.2040920
>>2040861
Why are you making his point for him? He just wanted bike paths you niglet.
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 7:43:12 AM No.2040921
>>2040920
"We just want bike paths/options" is the whining that they do when they're called out, ignoring everything else when they get their way.
>too many people drive, they must be punished, limited, or taxed
>single-family neighborhoods need to be reformed in our image or taxed out of existence
>no you can't widen freeways because reasons
>no you can't add parallel MUPs for some reason those don't count for reasons
>all bike lanes have to be at the expense of existing traffic/parking lanes, if you question it for whatever reason you're obviously a Nazi
Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:28:21 PM No.2040961
>>2039409
>vibrant neighborhood
>buldozed to turn into parking lot


hahahahahaha

reality is they just tore down all the abandoned buildings and let cars park on the lots instead of just being overgrown with weeds and trash
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 8:09:13 AM No.2040994
>>2037558
so people in 1887 decide to build some awesome towers for a bridge and people in the 1950s think it doesn't look stylish, which justifies demolishing them. that's always a good logic to apply, just destroy it if it doesn't fit the current trends and you want to save some pennies.
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 2:37:48 PM No.2041256
>>2035422
Because back when it was build it wasn't in the city
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Anonymous
5/27/2025, 10:04:22 PM No.2041614
Am Moldauhafen - Google Maps
Am Moldauhafen - Google Maps
md5: 48dc7d351d816ddf5c4c5ac93272b384🔍
>>2035410 (OP)
>pass by Elbbrücken
>see this
Who of you did this?
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 3:48:39 AM No.2041625
>>2035640
No you
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 10:17:09 AM No.2041652
And nothing of value was lost. Old gothic shit was ugly to begin with, and every single one of them should be torn down
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 1:09:49 PM No.2041665
How do you fuck with cars? The only way I can think of is leaving screws on the road. Or oil. Are there any other simple and affordable ways?
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Anonymous
5/28/2025, 4:38:26 PM No.2041686
>>2041256
Aren't those two reversed? Most of the American highways were on the outskirts, while European cities the railyards tear through the heart of them.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 11:15:22 PM No.2041736
>>2041665
piercing tires at night was a pretty popular hobby some years ago in Paris
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 5:28:49 PM No.2041787
>>2041665
>>2041736
>Oh boy I sure do love terrorism! It's totally justified though because... uhh... look people HAVE to be crowded into trains and commie block apartments or my life is somehow worse
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 5:59:58 PM No.2041790
>>2041787
Ummm sweaty, it's not terrorism. It's restorative justice and urban planning.
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 6:50:26 PM No.2041802
>>2041787
chill out I didn't do it personnally though given the number of cyclists killed by cars every year I'd say it's fair retribution
probably feels good too
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Anonymous
5/29/2025, 10:38:49 PM No.2041829
my city almost demolished half of the down town (including a massive park) to build a highway to nowhere just because "WE HECKING HAVE TO HAVE A HIGHWAY OR WE AREN'T MODERN" but thankfully non-retarded heads prevailed after they got 1/5 of it done
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 4:06:24 AM No.2041871
>>2041802
chill out, these cyclists behaved like you and deserved to suicide by crunching under the wheels. it's completely fair and natural justice and anyone who knew them is happy about it.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 12:03:20 PM No.2041912
>>2041871
I'm not even a cyclist lol
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:59:43 AM No.2044846
>>2041787
I'll remind you nigger the next time you gloat about killing cyclists and generally being an entitled douche about ruining everything in urban planning and living space potential just so you can get stuck in traffic jams more conveniently with more cagers
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:45:39 AM No.2045172
>>2041665
>How do you fuck with cars?
I like to get in my own car, and come to a complete stop at every stop sign.
And follow it up with a gentle, even acceleration, until I'm going about 1mph below the posted speed limit.
Drives the crowd wild.
bigbuttydaddythickdick22
6/19/2025, 10:18:00 AM No.2045173
i love big daddys dik
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:28:05 PM No.2045386
>>2035520
He's probably American, his country has no history he can't understand