how should you store smaller items (phone, keys, etc) while riding a bike? assuming your clothes don't have secure pockets

>>2037839 (OP)
>how should you store smaller items (phone, keys, etc) while riding a bike?
I use your picrel or a smaller bag on the toptube

>>2037839 (OP)
on my utility bike with a front rack I have a huge basket.
on my fast bike that just needs a mini pump, patch kit, maybe phone and snacks, I recently bought this to replace the super crappy one that fell apart in less than a year. it seems breddy gud. I like it because I have a classic bike with no black components and this bag has no black trim or straps (literally every other seat bag is black, or mostly black) and this one comes in pretty much every color. it is cheap, though, so hopefully it doesn't fall apart (I literally just got it a few weeks ago) but my other one started falling apart immediately, this one seems to have adequate build quality. no-name chinky, many sellers on eBay.

>>2037839 (OP)
>assuming your clothes don't have secure pockets
I learned the hard way. now all my sportswear have at least one zipped pocket.

>>2037839 (OP)
I've never had any issue with the back pockets on my cycling jerseys releasing my stuff at the wrong moment, why is /n/ so opposed to wearing appropriate attire?

I actually have had one of those water bottle cage canister thingies send all my stuff flying when I hit a bump but the zefal one doesn't have that issue

>>2037839 (OP)
frame bags are a decent solution. They are unobtrusive, the triangular space serves no purpose and storage is a sensible usage. It keeps weight central. The only things to keep in mind are cables and bottle cage locations.

Some handlebar bags are quite good, as long as they don't interfere with cockpit, hand position and cabling etc. Picrel is what i use for small items. It's attached to the stem and the bar, but is narrow so doesn't interfere with hand position. it has a transparent phone pouch on the top and is very easy to install and remove.
I also had a frame bag made to sit between top tube and bottle cages. That's a permanent fixture now, so handy.

I use one of those minibags that attaches to the saddle rails mine is an ancient cannondale one tho not a borger

>>2037953

>>2037839 (OP)
I have a bag on my bike rack where I store everything

She was just ’mirin, mah ride…

Top tube bag for quick access (snacks) and saddle pack with tire repair and multitool

A lot of (gravel) racers run those for aero

Might get one of picrel. 5L of storage right in the frame.

>>2037839 (OP)
Pringles can in one of your waterbottle cages

>>2037839 (OP)
Not the best looking but I've got a handlebar bag for that stuff.
Also keep a smaller saddlebag at full capacity with some spare tubes, a mini multitool, and some tire levers.

>>2037874
goofy silhouette, limited room for snacks, phone gets sweaty, and there's a remote but nonzero chance of landing on your back in a crash
the reason pros don't run saddlebags os because they have a team car following them around, not because pockets hold everything they need

I bought a cheap handlebar bag from aliexpress and it was fine, but rattled a lot offroad
So I bought an aliexpress top tube bag, and its pretty good, but limits me to 1 big 1 small bottle

I currently run only my saddle bag with a spare tube and tools, and phone in 1 pocket, keys, earbuds and work card in the other (sweatpants with zipped pockets)

>>2037839 (OP)
Hard mode:
your bike looks like this and there is a bottle cage in the middle of the frame.
I'm thinking about some kind of upper tube bag.

>>2039689
large saddle bag, top tube bag

>>2037839 (OP)
I have a full triangle bag by toppeak of all places. Has lasted a decade but I don't frequently go out mtb packing

>>2037954
w2c????? pls

>>2040752
i found it, it's made by bikease but every store listing is sold out
and also im not in the us
if anyone sees a working listing for one in the eu pls @me ok? ty :*

For me the classic Specialized saddle pack is still the GOAT. Simple to install and remove, easily adjustable, has an extendable lower pocket, stays in situ, no swinging or banging around behind you.

Not sure if they still make them but they often appear for sale on ebay, got this one for £12.

If you're not larping hard as a "bikepacker" - at which point, who cares anyway, carry as much as you can - all you need is a decently sized saddlebag.
I have a small one from ali that can fit 2 tubes, multitool, and a rolled up drawstring backpack. So, worst case scenario, I'll just pull over to a gas station and buy a snickers bar or a couple of bananas.
These storage bags that fit in the triangle are good but at the same time suck because now reaching to the bottle is worse, handlebar bags are a aero joke and usually can't fit much anyway, all while not being less practical than the framebag. Top-tube bags could be as good as the framebags if they don't hit your balls when you dismount, which is the case in many standard geometry frames.
Why do you need more storage anyway? Phone and keys can go to your saddle bag or a hip pack/small transversal bag if you don't like jerseys, but they're honestly a godsend. It's the best storage a cyclist could want IMHO.

Hip bag:
-ample storage
-easy access mid ride
-adjusts to whereever you want
-automatically gets off the bike with you
-objects in pockets dont chafe
-doesnt ride up to your head like backpacks
-can wear over the shoulder off the bike
everything else is inferior for the small bits and pieces: keys, cash, map, patches, glasses etc.

>>2040858
Hip bag is a decent option, as are frame and saddle gags. One of or a combination of these should be more than adequate for most cyclists smaller essentials.

A simple rack will usually be adequate for carrying any medium sized items.

>>2037839 (OP)
Don't like then.
Backpack with waist pouches for the phone, wallet, etc. Anything I'm not going to need during the ride (keys...), goes in the back.

If jersey pockets are not enough I just run this
Kinda fucking goated i do not regret buying. Perfect for either just some extra fuel, another layer and a camera, change of clothes/shoes if im supposed to go somewhere and not look like a cyclist, or. I can fit my ultralight camping loadout in here (not as comfy as having the weight on the bike frame but pretty fuckin good)
Jersey pockets or this. This + a tailfin rack when i buy one will be enough for me to tour whatever distance i fancy and camp.

>>2042918
>not look like a cyclist
Why is this important to you? Also, you wear this while you are literally cycling.

>>2042921
Anon idc about that i wear full lycra. I just meant, maybe i wanna ride to the gym or something and change out of my kit

>>2042918
rucksacke om the bike are kind of annoying as, unless on a rather upright bike, I find the rucksack will continuously ride 'up' towards the head.
Hip bag.

>>2042937
Its a purpose made trail running pack and it doesn’t move around at all its why i posted this and not some shartmart cuckpack

>>2037850
so it's been a few months and I still really like it, but the front end by the seatpost is just as wide as the rear end, which means the back of your legs hit it when mounted as intended. I shifted it as far back on the saddle rails as I could and also put the seatpost strap around the rails near the clamp. added a wine cork as a spacer to keep it back and now it's great.
too bad, though. this design could have been perfect and such a low price. if they had made actual riders test it out and fixed this issue it would literally be the design to kill all others.

I use my road bike for commuting only and I just have one pannier bag always on it (sometimes two if I’ll be carrying more stuff). I have my repair stuff in one pocket. I used to use the seat bag or whatever, but once I got the rack and pannier I don’t see a need.

>>2043006
>if they had made actual riders test it out
thats what you pay extra for

After a lengthy career in memeing people into buying shit they don't need and will probably never use, I cannot fathom how I just got memed into buying a fanny pack

>>2042918
pls post brand name

>>2043082
I got a very nice fanny pack and its hands down the single most useful item for any cyclist.
Wanna go somewhere quick? In the past you hopped on your bike, thinking bothing of it, and gave it the beans. Only half way through the ride you started realising how the phone in your pocket bumpy into your pelvis, the keys in the opposite pocket rub at your tigh. On occassions you see the irritated skin in both spots, reminding you of the kost pressing issue in your life: The lack of a hip bag.
All of those problems and more can be solved. Get a hip bag. Need to go somewhere in the future? Grab the bag, you're likely keeping all your essentials in it anyways. If not toss everything in, strap it and go. No more irritating stuff in your pockets. Need to grab something mid ride? Arrive at destination, forget it's even there. Just get off and go on about your business. Your stuff will be there with you.
Also it provides so much more storge than your pockets, heck even more than a small saddle bag. Road bike, no rack, no panniers? Hip bag packs half of the stuff a large saddle bag would, but when you get off you can easily take your stuff with you and dont have to worry about leaving your stuff on the bike. You might not fit a tent or sleeping bag. But a vhange of clothes and a credit card if thats your thing.

i have a camelbak that is pretty good

>>2043091
All true. Fanny pack is the best even when you're not riding your bike. Good ones make your wallet less accessible to pickpockets and you can also put a phone case clipped on the integrated belt for easier access. You can also take things like a notepad, multitool or bandages without having to think about it.

>>2043091
>>2043127
I love Fanny Pack !

>>2037839 (OP)
I want that bag to replace this lumpy monstrosity. What it is?

>an enhanced CD
Yes we call that a ladyboy. Just add estrogen!

>>2043083
Salomon ADV Skin Cross Season 15 Litre

>>2043207
no idea, i just stole something off google. you'll probably find something similar with a reverse image search

I added a rear rack and bag to mine.

>>2044013
this is now a troll bike thread

>>2044020
???

>>2044020
kek

I made this bag, what do guys think? The left will be a smaller next version.

>>2044039
A thread where people post intentionally shitty or ridiculous builds made to troll others. Your bike would fit right in.

>>2044192
nice anon, pretty cool being able to just make your own stuff like that. especially since you can tailor it to your own bike

>>2039689
There are companies that make custom frame bags for you.

>>2044013

>>2044192
Super impressive. I was thinking about doing one for mine...

>>2039689
If your bike looks like this, just put your items in a locker at the bike park's lift station, or leave them in your car until you're done playing.

>>2044192
wow, good work !
can we see it on the bike?

>>2044013
To think I post with people like you among us...

>>2044013
>>2044020
You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

>>2044271

>>2044271
this is what a work-horse MTB should look like.

>>2044272
it took me googling "magura hs 11" to understand that that those are levers. but I still don't get the point of it.
the maguras are hydraulic and he converted them for cable levers, but why didn't he just mount the hydro levers in the first place?

>>2044274
oh wait: he broke the levers off the maguras by accident and did this to rescue them? assuming magura wouldn't sell him replacements or it was mechanically impossible to retrofit new levers.

>>2044274
>>2044275
He had a bike with drop bars and mechanical rim brakes. He wanted hydraulic rim brakes. Not sure if drop bar levers for those just don't exist or he used what he had in his shed. Anyway, he took Maguras, sawed off the levers and connected the brake lines from the mech levers to them through a home-made aluminum stopper.
It worked about as good as it looks.
I bought that shit used for cheap, replaced this entire shit with normal caliper brakes and instantly quadrupled the bike's braking power and modulation.

>>2044276
lol.
people refuse to believe that cabled dual pivot calipers are powerful, but they lock a wheel pretty darn quick and modulation is good if you keep your wheels true and the pads close to the rim, which are not particularly difficult things to do.

my buddy had a trials bike with hydro rim brakes and they were plenty powerful, but running them through that rig obviously gimped the hell out of them.

>>2043040
I stopped keeping panniers on the bike after maxbe 5 years of doing that. Reason was simple:
I found that even tho I always store bikes in the dry, adverse weather conditions and also condensation are enough to sometimes cause permadamp panniers. Not too keen on a personal bog ecosystem on my bike. Eventually switched to folding baskets on the rear. They obviously dont have that problem, are always on the bike, simply fold up when not in use and just need some bending back after crashes while panniers once ripped need patching.
As a bonus the baskets come in handy when putting a large object on the rack. Unfolding them adds support further out.

>>2044199
>>2044241
Thank you. Its a very basic design, two sides and a gusset (the centre line piece).
The gusset was paneled as its long (two pieces joined).
If you can figure out saddle stitching, which isnt difficult, you can easily do this.
The zipper is the hardest part but just takes some setup.
>>2044267
Thanks! Sure - this is just a rough mock of it because I need the lock on full time (city) and I got this drinks holder.

I also have a question, I'd like to use this bike for touring but the insides of my elbow joints tire a lot (very stiff after 50km), and my shoulders too. How do I diagnose what part of the bike is an issue?

>>2044348
start by mounting the saddle horizontally. The way it is it pushes your entire body forward putting too much weight on your arms. Also looks to be too high, or the bike is too small.

>>2044349
Yeah, I think I'm squarely between an M and an L, I got the M.
Dumb question: it doesnt seem to be a huge incline right now, so should the saddle be completely horizontal to the floor?
I set it the way it is because it was more comfortable - although I must not be sitting correctly then.

>>2044351
>it doesnt seem to be a huge incline
you are most likely limiting yourself to 1 position on the saddle, is climbing comfortable? what about descends? I mean do you even ride your bike?

>>2044407
Yes, I ride about 350km a month.
Theres honestly not much climbing or descent, I live in a flat as fuck country.
Ive set it horizontal(ish) as ive only got a cheapo spirit level, thanks for the advice.

>>2044351
It's a huge incline usually reserved for pro time trials.
Saddle pivot is the last thing you change after everything else is dialed in, and in almost all cases horizontal is best unless you're a pro racer.

>>2044348
>saddle
jesus, no wonder.
level it out for god's sake. your whole body weight is constantly sinking forward and your arms are constantly pushing against it. also put the saddle rails centered in the clamp. I also ride an undersized bike and ultimately I ended up with it slightly forward but I started like you having it slammed all the way back and that was probably the single stupidest thing I've ever done with my fit. with it centered you will probably have to raise the post again a little to get the proper leg extension again. the "this bike is small for me so I'll fix it by slamming the saddle backwards to make room" mentality is, as I found out, fucking retarded. there is one correct saddle position for you on any given bike you fix the reach by changing to different length stems, not throwing the saddle backwards. it just doesn't work that way.
leveling the saddle will kill the arm pain. the cockpit adjustments are like six different adjustments that all affect each other but start by getting the saddle leveled, centered (this can change in SMALL increments, but get used to the feel of center and play around with the cockpit before you do that adjustment) and the height, which is probably 80% of fit.

>>2044441
agreed. slamming the saddle back only makes sense in one situation: you wanted a road bike and accidentally bought a track bike

>>2044428
>>2044441
Thanks for the info. Ive set it dead centre and horizontally and definitely feels like I'm actually sitting on the bike now.
I dont remember ever fiddling with the rails though, but makes sense.
I'll wait with fiddling with the cockpit or making major adjustments after another 1k km.

>>2044470
good lad

>>2039037
some of the older style had a padded strap built in,
handy for carrying bikes upstairs or over fences.
>>2037839 (OP)
stock up on helicopter tape, bags wear though paint and metal farely quickly.

>>2044271
dem saddle hooks, seats had them for ages after everyone stopped using the bags

>>2044271
is that a whole tent setup? in a regular sack or some kinda special snowflake saddle bag

for me, its the humble fanny pack

>>2045608
It's a 4 person tent in its normal sack

>>2044585
looks like a woman's purse

>>2042937
True, the cheap solution though is to carry your water bottles in it. Stop to drink, take a break, you don't need those bottle holders either.

>>2037897
>>2039037
Update: Picrel has been installed.