E-Bikes and Trains are the transportation of the future.

>Why the heck aren't you using an E-Bike?

Yay! I like e-bikes! I only own e-scooter for now, but I kinda miss the stability of bikes

>>2039417 (OP)
>Why the heck aren't you using an E-Bike

1) I am an able-bodied man who understands how to use the gearing on my bicycle.
2) exploding batteries

>>2039430

batteries explode if the wiring in there is bad and the cells charge over their designed voltage.

Maybe american summer camp so americans can build their own battery so they can under stand how simple. I think that would make americans fall out of their evil wasteful stupor.

On an ebike youre easily allowed to see the failure of ameircan infrastructure. It's a tool to scout out american hostility. The gas fogs the brain. Your ebike will go where the busses dont go and where your normal bicycle will not reach.

>>2039418
Im impressed by high tech scooters blowing passed me when I see them.

>>2039417 (OP)
>>>/o/

>>2039417 (OP)
>Why the heck aren't you using an E-Bike?
Whats wrong with a normal bike? I regularly smoke boomers and middle aged dads/moms on ebikes with ease.
They are capped at 25km/h where i live and the added weight is only a handicap above 25km/h. I easily do 35km/h on the flats and can climb at 20km/h.
There is no advantage except more drivetrain wear, expensive batteries and added weight.

If I get old or move back to a hilly town i would consider it. Until then there's basically no excuse to not use a regular bike.
Also these get stolen the instant you lock them up outside

>>2039417 (OP)
My legs have turned into concrete.

>>2039417 (OP)
well they're expensive, more likely to be stolen. and I only ride 15km away which is pretty easy.

>>2039640
>>2039606
your bicycle is a prosthetic. The logic to herding bodies in to gas chambers says, leave your wheel chair out side where the thieves will rust it.

The bike racks not empty by accident. A 5000 pound gas chamber is too heavy to steal.

>>2039417 (OP)
Jokes on you, I literally *just* got one. Nothing special, just for me to get to replace using pub(l)ic transport
>Inb4 "lmao fatass"

ebike? YES.

:the gas comes out the back side of the gas chamber. We get a lot more of the gas when the gas chamber is moving up hill. The gas looks like air but it's not. The gas chamber moves the air away. Carbon monoxide binds to the hemoglobin 200 times faster than air. We can't filter the carbon monoxide from the blood in our veins with a gas mask. We would need a gas mask with oxygen tanks.

>>2039643
what

>>2039675

The logic to herding bodies in to gas chambers says,

"Leave your wheel chair out side where it will be stolen"
"Where it will rust"
"Where the elements will grind it to dust"

[we used to use that logic in the concentration camps for prosthetics]

The empty bike racks become a monument to the success of their eugenics.

I'll have what he's smoking

>>2039677
the fuck do you mean empty bike racks?

>>2039417 (OP)
I'm not old and weak to need an e-bike.

What kind of ebike is this i bought this on marketplace for 200 bucks but the controller doesnt work, the battery works but the little monitor doesnt turn on. Its my first ebike

>>2039874
probably bafang or knockoff of bafang. Look up the voltage/amps and get a controller for it, shouldn't be too hard. Most of these guys aren't reinventing the wheel here with their designs.

>>2039874
if u cant find a speed controller that works with your monitor, just wire in a 5 dollar amp meter/ volt meter. I got some hard switches to control power and speed. I had to do this in a similar situation and the hard switches are way way better.

>>2039888
You could fit a huge battery in there. Very nice purchase.

>>2039417 (OP)
because if i ride one id have to be exposed on a bicycle risking being killed by cars every time i want to go 10 miles to the next town over. id use one in a city with good cycle paths

>>2039887
>>2039888
Messed with the wiring a little bit after installing a new controller and got the monitor working got an error code 10 for no connection to motor

>>2039920

That error code 10 on my bicycle would mean I would want to check the continuity in those 5 wires that go from the speed controller to the hub motor.

When I got my conversion kit, one or some of the 5 wires was rubbing up against the in side of the hub motor housing and it was causing a short.

>>2039925
So i got the wiring harness off but cant find any wiring harnesses that look like this online and ideas where i can find a replacement

>>2039935
What does your speed controller look like? I'm really bad with the names of connectors.

I spliced the wiring harness in to the new speed controller. You can get a kit of these connectors [but I cant remember the name of them right now]

and terminate them to the controller end of the wiring harness. That way we can swap it out easy if it breaks later.

We can also splice the wiring harness straight in to the speed controller but that takes a lot longer to fix if the speed controller has issues later.

I don't know what that broken looking blue connector is that loops back like that?

>>2039937
I believe the blue was supposed to connect to a headlight that is missing from the bike. This is a pic of the speed controller i couldnt find a serial number or brand for it though.

>>2039937
My bad did you mean this controller

>>2039935

If I need a new wiring harness in the future, I will build it from ethernet cord. I think I would need to run 2 ethernet cords along the bike. Could make it look really cool.

>>2039417 (OP)
Here's why I don't want to buy an e-bike: I see bicycles from the 1980s still being ridden around on a pretty regular basis. Saw an older gentleman pedaling around HIS old man's old bicycle the other day. Some British company I think, I forget the make.

I just don't have any confidence that ANY e-bike currently on the road will be around in even 10 years. They all use proprietary batteries, they're always updating models, they're always changing the battery that comes with the models... Fast forward 30 years. A 16 year old finds his old man's e-bike in the garage. It looks brand new! But the battery won't charge. Will he be able to find a new battery and get his old man's bike back on the road? I bet NOT.

I would like things to get standardized. The same way so much stuff about bicycles have become standardized. I would like to know with certainty that if I buy an e-bike I can keep it running until the frame itself dies because replacement batteries, replacement motors, etc, will still be available in 20 years.

>>2039657
What ebike did you get?

>>2039979
This is the only thing stopping me from buying an ebike. All parts are custom or proprietary. There really isn't a need for this since we're talking about simple components here. I want to be able to ride to a friends house, then swap out my battery with a spare he has and go home. It should really be that simple.

>>2039992
Yes. It should be as standardized as AA/AAA/D/C/9V batteries. It's fine if there are different batteries, so long as it's a small list of standardized sizes and configurations that will still be around in 10 years. Right now everything is completely proprietary which is over the rainbow gay. With everything being proprietary it turns a Forever Bike into a Throwaway Bike.

>>2040011
It will only happen when all the ebikes that are shilled now are sent to landfills too early. Then consumers will only buy something with standard parts. Rental companies might make advancements here faster than consumers though. Unless they find a way to make ebikes and escooters extremely cheap or near indestructible, they'll need to manufacture bikes that are very easy to repair.

since i cant find a wire harness online ima just repair my old wire but, im looking at it and i have an orange wire not connected to anything and an extra green wire on the connector are these just grounds or are they actually needed to make a proper connection, on both connectors all wires should have a connection except the orange wire and green wire (which is connected to the connector)?

>>2040014
orange might be cruise control. Not sure what the cut green is.

check the manual for the speed controller and figure out what handle bar "instruments" to hook up to what color wire.

The LCD screen obscured this process for me too much and I did not like it :( Much happier working with the simple volt meter / amp meter and hard switches.

2 wires for power on
3 wires for speed selector switch
3 wires for throttle lever
2 wires for cruise control
2 wires for break cutoff switch

I dont think I forgot any thing other than your very useful blue head light wire.

what's the cheapest E-Bike to have or build?
something that people wouldn't bother trying to steal
something you can make look unappealing and not worth the hassle

>>2040077
diy bafang kit. leave the wires exposed.

>>2040079
ooh.
what's the cheapest I should expect for everything like battery included? I'm seeing like a back hub motor and all electronics for like 200 bucks on Ali but I don't think it includes baytery.
also when riding it without the battery, would it be a lot harder cause of the motor? especially if it's back hub and not pedal one?

>>2040086
not sure on batteries. i got a unit pack power prior to the mania around it. you may have to do some research on this yourself.

>>2039990
An Engwe T14, but i'm in the process of returning the damn thing, between since i got it, and now, it's been plagued with issues. I really should have been smarter, and had something with both bigger wheels, as well as longer battery life (there used to be 15ah batteries, but i can't find em anymore, and would rather not immediately buy aliexpress batteries. I do have ouxi v8's being advertised on marketplace near me, but i have my doubts on how true the listing is

>>2039417 (OP)

Why the fuck are some of you freaks giving this guy serious responses? EBIKES GO ON /O/ U FAT GREASY OILY DISGUSTING TOO LAZY TO EVEN PEDAL A BIKE DISGUSTING HUMAN BEING

>>2039979
The battery cells inside are standardized. They just need to make them serviceable.

>>2039417 (OP)
Because motorism is degenerate behaviour and not something an adult, healthy, white man should participate in.

Thoughts on the Isinwheel M10?

I can't seem to find a better price than this for the range/quality

>>2041029
What the fuck is a 35-speed?
Did they combine a 1x7 with a 5 speed gear hub?
Or is that the speed in kph where it disintegrates?

>>2041031
I have no idea but its like less than 400 bucks including shipping its rather tempting

>>2041032
God speed and good luck.
You'll need it.
Also feel free to come back and ask for more advice in 2 weeks or so, once you realize you just wasted $400 on a heap of scrap metal.
I don't have the words to make it clear to you how much this thing will suck.
And no, there is zero chance that you got lucky and found the only decent e-bike that costs 4x less than all the others.

I would honestly be surprised if you could ride this thing for 100 miles total before it breaks, you take it to a shop, and they tell you that it can't be fixed, cause fixing it would involve replacing all parts with parts that actually work.

>>2041034
You a hoe

This one obnoxious fatanon really exemplifies why I hate ebikeposters. People tell you in this shit thread AND the other thread to not gamble on ebikes, the budget ones are unreliable. And you just keep going with your dream of…riding a car but with pedals on the side so you can pretend you’re getting exercise when the doctor asks why you’re still fat on your next physical. hate you. fuck off to /o/. verification not FUCKING required you waste of oxygen

Harden the fuck up, Metro e bikeshare. Pic rel

>>2041009
You mean having mobility beyond the store near your pod?

>>2041039
Hey bitch I literally found a dude in town with one and he said it was sweet

I'm not fat. The only people I ever see riding ebikes, and I ride daily, are obese lardos and 70+ year old boomers. Sometimes fat women too.

Compelling.

I really feel like I should get one. Seems like everyone has them, and I don’t drive a car. My only bike is my nearly 20 year old aluminum cannondale road bike, and on top of that, I live on top of a massive hill I have to trudge up every day. With how much I bike I feel like I’m the exact type of person who should have one. But it’s a decent financial investment and also has way more things that can go wrong and be an expensive repair than a regular bike.

can we just fucking get rid of everyone that keeps these permanently bumped as well as the shitter OP? sadly, there are too many retards taking the bait

How worried should I be about overheating a mid drive motor?

>>2039417 (OP)
Ebike doesnt work for hills without significant investment. At that point a smaller scooter or a used car would work just fine. There's no reason why a usable ebikes should cost more than a a car. Hell, I've even considered buying cheap Leafs that go for ~$2K instead cause they have 20-30 miles in the car and can drive over decent terrain.

why does it seem like the coolest models can't stay in business for very long? would it be better if major automakers got involved in producing them?

>>2045838
>There's no reason why a usable ebikes should cost more than a a car.
The cheapest new car you can buy in the US today (Nissan Versa Sedan) costs $18,330.
You can get a very good ebike new for under $3,000.
Stop comparing the price of new bikes to used cars.

>>2045846
Cause the "coolest models" from your perspective use non-standard parts to look "cool".
Which means the production is more expensive due to economy of scale, so they operate at a loss to match a price customers are willing to pay, relying on meme investor money to stay in business while they hope to become the Apple of bicycles.
When that doesn't happen, investors pull out and the company folds.
Major automakers have repeatedly tried and failed to enter the bicycle market, cause they consistently underestimate the know-how required to build a good bike.
The only exception is Peugeot, which used to make bikes that were just as inexpensive and decent as their cars.

>>2045847
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/229c98c9-deb9-4192-9633-76e62f3ed9e5/

60 mile EV for cheaper

>>2045893
You seem to have trouble reading, maybe this will help:

STOP
COMPARING
THE PRICE
OF NEW
BIKES TO
USED CARS.

>>2045853
yeah but they look a lot cooler

>>2046045
>road tires so can't go off road
>wide tires so can't go fast
It must be really great for riding in the city, then!
>absolutely no way to mount fenders

This is a perfect example of a bike designed by a car company. It serves no purpose, on purpose.
If it was any good, it might take away a car sale.
It only exists to look "better than other bikes" to people who never ride bikes. It sends the message "look, bikes are stupid, we as a car manufacturer can make a better-looking bike than the bike manufacturers".
I bet it's a one-off, too. Or maybe they made 100 units, at a million € loss, to give them away to customers buying a limited edition supercar.

>>2045919
Caggies fear the e-trike.

>>2046050
Oh so NOW you want fenders huh?