Thread 2041920 - /n/ [Archived: 759 hours ago]

Anonymous
5/30/2025, 3:17:56 PM No.2041920
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We should just agree that Switzerland does absolutely everything right regarding transportation and that it should serve as an inspiration to all other countries (except HSR which would be pointless in a small country).

>public transport well-structured around intercity rail, regional trains and trams and buses
>schedules are structured around hourly repeating patterns and no service (except buses in very remote areas) runs less than hourly
>variety of local and express services covering different distances efficiently
>capillary system wherein the local transport is timed with long-distance services: The bus runs from the station just after the train arrives. Thus even with low frequency you have perfect connections.
>optimal coverage, you can get practically everywhere by public transport and only rarely have a bad connection
etc.
But it also goes further than public transit:
>rational highway system with enough capacity but no super freeways going everywhere
>city centers car-free in the very core (usually the old-town), most neighbourhoods are reasonably walkable without artificially encumbering road traffic
>no city access tolls, instead traffic is regulated by limited road capacity in the center. You can get there if you must, but it's slow so it gets discouraged
>bypass roadways outside the cities

The concept can be perfectly scaled and adapted, obviously not something like long-distance trains in the US or dumb ideas like that, but everything in the scale of regular ground transportation, from the local bus up to HSR which would just have to be added on top of the intercity services.

Honestly, all other countries are barely even trying at best, like Japan with its terrible public transit outside the urban areas and closing down rural rail lines.
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 3:34:35 PM No.2041921
No one cares. What a shit destination to visit...
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Anonymous
5/30/2025, 4:17:34 PM No.2041924
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>glacier flattens your entire town
hehe, nothing personnel, kid
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 8:12:50 PM No.2041942
And the good news is: this is completely possible anywhere else! All it takes is wilfully ignoring everything that happened in the 1930s-1940s, then structuring your entire economy around laundering post-colonial dictators' blood money in the 1960s. Quite simple, really.
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 9:03:40 AM No.2042018
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The trve /n/ country
>nobody can afford gas or a car so the roads are free to use for bikes
>soviet and domestically made trolleybuses and trams
>surprisingly large rail network
KNEEL
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 9:45:44 AM No.2042021
>>2041920 (OP)
https://www.are.admin.ch/are/de/home/medien-und-publikationen/publikationen/verkehr/modalsplit-personenverkehr-schweiz.html

>Go to one of the first pages on the pdf file.
>More han 60% of swiss people use the car.
I don't think they're doing absolutely everything right
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 11:03:57 AM No.2042032
>>2042018
What a Socialist hell hole, literally nothing but a concentration camp where everyone is always starving and you get executed by AA guns for breathing wrong.
Don't mind the fact that many who emigrated to South Korea admit regretting it, there's lots of cross-border traffic with China, and literally all info that hits western media is published by a South Korean propaganda outlet.
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 11:05:25 AM No.2042033
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>>2042032
trigger warning: extreme human suffering
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 2:13:59 PM No.2042051
>>2042021
What an utterly retarded argument. It's the opposite, clearly people have a choice, and cars are still a good choice albeit without being a detriment to society as a whole (through too many highways or car-centric planning). At the same time, most people who want to or need to use public transit will find it very convenient and practical. So you can't imply that high car usage is due to bad public transport and your argument is m00t.
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Anonymous
5/31/2025, 8:33:07 PM No.2042131
>>2041920 (OP)
careful, you'll anger the weebs
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 2:40:24 AM No.2042149
>>2041942
fucking kek. and Orson Welles nailed it: an extremely stable society. but their neighbors' history with tons of war and political problems created the some of the greatest art and literature of all time. the peak of swiss culture was the invention of the cuckoo clock.
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Anonymous
6/1/2025, 2:45:16 AM No.2042150
>>2042021
60% seems really low for first-world county, though. are there any lower? I'd gladly take 60% here in the US, but we're probably the highest I imagine.
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 12:29:28 PM No.2042185
>>2042149
The swiss didn't invent the cuckoo clock you dunce.
But yeah so what, we didn't create great art or innovation, but at least we have great trains and transportation. Go be butthurt somewhere else because we built a functioning society that isn't turning into a khalifate like Germany or France. Haters are just jealous.

Oh yeah Switzerland is so terrible that's why half of Europe are trying to move here and we have literally the highest immigration on the continent.
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Anonymous
6/1/2025, 8:27:45 PM No.2042225
>>2042185
the more embarrassing post was the one I replied to, but I notice you don't have any response to that, lol.
I don't have any problems with the swiss, calm down, it's just banter. I'd take a stable society with the interest of the citizens at heart over Donald fucking Trump or a DNC who thinks anybody wants Hillary fucking Clinton as president any day. I'm sure your transportation is world class, but until you produce a Da Vinci, a Lord Byron, a Meleville, a Monet, a Wagner, a Tolstoy, nobody's going to think about you except for luxury watches or swiss army knives. although, to be fair, I'm a fan of both of those things. so, could be worse. there are numerous countries that nobody ever thinks about at all. Burundi, for example. I guess you could say I'm neutral on Switzerland. get it? neutral?
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 1:02:52 AM No.2042252
>>2042225
What should I even reply to such retardation probably sprouted by some assmad third worlder?
>no u!
>I'm sowwy we took money from the dictator who fucked you over
>didn't happen, they deserved, would do it again
?

It's a doggy dog world my brown friend, don't try to cloak in superior morals that your country is too stupid to get money from dictators and mobsters.

>until you produce a Da Vinci, a Lord Byron, a Meleville, a Monet, a Wagner, a Tolstoy
Which one of those are you, fren? Are you a Da Vinci, a Byron or a Monet? Oh wait you're nobody and you've never achieved anything, you're just one of those human failures who tries to make up for his own shortcomings by basking in the glory of others. And btw what Melville, Wagner or Tolstoy have any European countries produced in the last 50 years exactly?

You can think I don't reply to dumb posts like that because I don't have a reply, and you're right, at some point it gets so utterly brain dead that I honestly have a hard time getting to such a low level of intellect as to manage a reply to it.
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 6:14:49 AM No.2042272
>>2042252
lol u mad
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 9:15:49 AM No.2042290
>>2042051
There's a threshold. Say, 80% or even more. Then public transportation can be considered good.

The message's about getting rid of your car once and for all for things like shopping for groceries, visiting grandma and such stuff. And no, I don't think it's uncomfortable to ride the bus from a local grocery store to your population: 100 village with all your stuff. Everyone should see what you bought.
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 11:44:36 AM No.2042296
>>2042290
>my arbitrary goalposts should be the measure of things
lmao.
go on, show me a country with a higher public transit modal split overall. Country, not city.

>>2042272
I accept your concession.
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 11:45:18 AM No.2042297
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>>2041921
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 12:50:23 PM No.2042322
>>2042296
North Korea but I already read that reply.
( >>2042033 )
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Anonymous
6/2/2025, 12:51:37 PM No.2042323
>>2042322
Oh wait never mind. It was the post starting with socialist hell hole.
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 1:12:24 AM No.2042404
The swiss do a lot and they do it mostly right. But Switzerland has problems similar to Germany. No or almost no public transportation at night. Things like only one bus per hour in rural areas. No railways in the event of trains which need to pass other trains. And there are even things which are nice abroad. Free wifi in a lot of modern trains in Germany. High speed trains in France or Germany.
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Anonymous
6/3/2025, 8:34:47 AM No.2042431
>>2042404
>no public transit at night
That's a non-issue because the swiss are all home at 6.
I've seen Neuchatel past office closing hours and it was deader than a french, german or italian city a third of its size.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:35:10 PM No.2043525
>>2042032
>>2042033
What's some genuinely unbiased NK documentation? I don't mean things that are blatantly in favor or against, just a thorough collection of facts about the country.
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 7:33:28 PM No.2043544
>>2043525
that isn't how shit works, every collection of facts has an explicit or implicit bias. take rape statistics for example. it's just a number, right? numbers can't lie? well it turns out those stats depend on a whole lot of other things including how rape is defined, the cultural values of the country when it comes to how sex crime victims are viewed (would reporting make the victim worse off), etc.

that's an extreme example but when it comes to a place as extreme as the DPRK you need to really keep these things in mind at all times when consuming media on the topic
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 9:02:00 PM No.2043557
>>2042018
Cute bus
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 11:57:36 PM No.2043570
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>>2042404
>No or almost no public transportation at night.
WRONG. Pic related. Better night service than Japan for example.

>Things like only one bus per hour in rural areas.
>only
Ah yes unlike all those places with rural buses every 15 minutes. Dumbass.

>Free wifi in a lot of modern trains in Germany
Nigga how poor are you I have unlimited data + EU roaming for 27 chf/month, who tf needs free wifi in the current year lmao

>High speed trains
This is the only legit criticism but it's still moot because the country is so small.

tl;dr you dumb
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 11:11:27 PM No.2044026
>>2043570
>I have unlimited data + EU roaming for 27 chf/month
That's about five times as much as I pay. I don't have unlimited data, but I don't really care.