Chinese airlines expand in Europe - /n/ (#2045044) [Archived: 4 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:33:02 PM No.2045044
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How long will Europe and Russia keep their airspaces closed off from each other? The bad relations between Europe and Russia due to the Russo-Ukrainian war gave Chinese airlines, which can still overfly Russia, a massive competitive advantage.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:49:55 PM No.2045047
the PRC is a cargo destination not a passenger destination. PRC is not by any means the only country where the russia overflight thing affects travel. this is an issue for practically anything in asia.

see, what the headline seems to conveniently omit is that the number of non-chinese travelers visiting PRC cratered after covid and never recovered like for most countries (the reasons for which are a whole different discussion).

so while it may be fun to write clickbait headlines that tap into the "china vs the rest of us" narrative, if you fail to account for the larger context, you might get a totally different impression from what's really going on. this is less "european airlines are getting squeezed by putin" and more "chinese airlines are the only airlines in that market that will bother trying to extract blood out of the turnip".
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:12:13 PM No.2045051
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>>2045047
> the number of non-chinese travelers visiting PRC cratered after covid and never recovered like for most countries (the reasons for which are a whole different discussion).

Thatโ€™s not what Iโ€™m reading online.

โ€œ There are eight additional new countries that have received visa-free access from China. Among them are Bulgaria, Romania, Malta, Croatia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Estonia, and Latvia.

As reported by Euronews, tourists from those countries, as well as Japan, can enter China visa-free from November 30, 2024, until December 31, 2025. Previously, passport holders from Andorra, Finland, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Slovakia, and Norway were granted a 30-day visa-free stay in China.

Meanwhile, Cyprus, Denmark, Greece, Portugal, and Slovenia were given access in October. Much earlier in July, tourists from Poland, Australia, and New Zealand were also granted visa-free access to China until the end of 2025. In total, there are 38 European countries that have received visa-free access to China.โ€

And Chinese tourism to Europe also increased last year.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:18:44 PM No.2045052
>china loses most of its tourists after making itself completely inhospitable to foreign travelers
>now it can choose between completely overhauling its financial, telco, and national security infra just to bump a tiny sector of the economy, or just cut visa restrictions on a portfolio of irrelevant former communist countries that might send a few extra tourists in response
Also why would it be a surprise that the largest, best connected, and most prosperous cities would get a lot of tourists? How is that interesting at all?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 4:36:39 PM No.2045058
>>2045044 (OP)
Yeah too bad these airlines are mediocre at best and support is non-existent.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:55:42 PM No.2046275
You are now aware airlines do not truly compete across countries. All international flights are subject to cabotage (with allocated "slots") and are in fact negotiated between origin and destination countries to their respective benefits.