Thread 2054274

If i take a class that teaches about boat repair at community college.
I can afford to repair a boat.

>>2054277
>>>/lgbt/

>>2054274 (OP)
>Are boats affordable?
absolutely not

>>2054274 (OP)
is anything affordable nowadays?

>>2054274 (OP)
Nigga most posters on this board can't afford a car, let alone a boat, idfk how expensive it is doing your maintenance.

>>2054345
>CRACKA most posters on this board can't afford a car not that a sane person would want to, due to the capitalist system we are forced to live under, let alone a boat, we ahould strive for walkable cities, idfk how expensive it is doing your maintenance.

Ftfy.

>>2054274 (OP)
Define “affordable”

>>2054349
>t.

>>2054274 (OP)
No.
>t. marine mechanic

>>2054274 (OP)
If you're able to have your own drydock, you don't need to worry about the affordability of anything.

>>2054274 (OP)
>Are boats affordable
The answer is always no.

t. knower

>>2054274 (OP)
More affordable than airplanes at least
But still means
>Break Out Another Thousand

This seems like the boat thread on /n/ right now.
There's a discussion on /hc/ about what kind of boat is the set for a film.
NSFW: >>>/hc/2567758

Looks like an old fore&aft sloop for what, cruising?
Doesn't seem intended or rigged for cargo or fishing.

>>2055155
I don't see a halyard. The boom is pretty strange and lacks any sort of vang and in another photo it looks like there's something resembling a square foresail. Maybe the whole rig is decorative and it's just a normal motorboat beneath? It doesn't look like there are lines running to the cockpit or any cleats near or on the spars.

>>2055210
The gang plank resembling some kind of mizzen boom is just confusing and I don't see why it's on a line to the mast but whatever.
Maybe the boom is fixed to the roof of the cabin and doesn't need a vang?
It doesn't look like it has freedom to move.

I did wonder if that and the poles are just being used to hold up a sun shade.

>>2055210
>Maybe the whole rig is decorative and it's just a normal motorboat beneath?
I think that level of structure for something decorative is retarded and a waste of money but it would serve as back up propulsion.

>It doesn't look like there are lines running to the cockpit or any cleats near or on the spars.
There's clearly a furling reel on the bowsprit for a foresail and there's a winch at the base of the bow sprit also (next pic).

>>2055216
>there's a winch at the base of the bow sprit also
They definitely do have some kind of sail plan, even if it's not being used here and maybe almost never gets used.
It's large for a sloop though so I wonder what the full sail plan would look like?
Maybe it's just to save a little fuel on good days?

>>2055155
>>2055215
>>2055216
>>2055217
The style of boat looks like a Turkish gulet.

>>2055216
>I think that level of structure for something decorative is retarded and a waste of money but it would serve as back up propulsion.
The shrouds are quite atypical for any modern sailboat but fit quite well in the old timey wooden boat style and give the crew some stuff to climb over. The whole rig is quite small for a boat of that size and would struggle to provide useful power, probably. The wooden mast is also quite thin so it doesn't protrude much above what's visible either.

>>2055217
Maybe it's just a jib and a triangular boomless mainsail? I doubt there's a gaff sail fitted up there along with its spar although it'd help with the sail area.

>>2055232
>and give the passengers some stuff to climb over*
although these pipes sticking out on the deck don't look safe, doubly so if you're going to be climbing above them

>>2055232
>The whole rig is quite small for a boat of that size and would struggle to provide useful power
I definitely agree with you on that point.

>Maybe it's just a jib and a triangular boomless mainsail?
If you look at >>2055155, you can definitely see a topping lift/boom lift, see the pully there.
In the same shot, you can see both the line securing the gangplank as well as a coathanger that I assume is a backstay adjuster (with the adjusting happening on pulleys at the deck).
So I think that is actually a boom, just not for a performance sail.

I don't understand why the gangplank is secured to the mast rather than the cabin roof but it seems to be that way from this shot: >>2055215

>>2055233
>although these pipes sticking out on the deck don't look safe, doubly so if you're going to be climbing above them
I assume they're for umbrellas (when anchored/hove to probably) or mounting support poles for shade cloth on.
This probably is in Turkey, possibly Greece. It's definitely Mediterranean.
OSHA might not have a presence in the Izmir tourist industry or whatever Med tourist town Private Studios used for the film.

>>2055237
>If you look at >>2055155, you can definitely see a topping lift/boom lift, see the pully there.
i did notice it but the lack of any vanging or mainsail reefing system(even simple cleats for tying off) makes me think that the "boom" is either decorative or serves some other purpose and the mainsail is actually loose footed instead. maybe it's really used for suspending a sunshade from it, or maybe as a sort of a crane to lift goods onboard like they used to do during the age of sail.
>I assume they're for umbrellas (when anchored/hove to probably) or mounting support poles for shade cloth on.
i'd feel safer about them when they have umbrellas installed since it's harder to impale yourself onto one than on a stubby rigid metal pipe. osha or not common sense just doesn't suggest it as a good idea.

>>2055292
>osha or not common sense just doesn't suggest it as a good idea
OHSA exists because sense isn't common enough and bad ideas are easier than doing things safely plus it's never happened on this boat before so get up in the rigging and fasten that line boy.

>>2054638
There's no private dry docks (or any docks - or beaches) over here; shore line is public domain.

>>2054274 (OP)
boats are notorious for being holes in the water that you pour money into

>>2054274 (OP)
no because even if you're a great wrencher all the various fluids and part the boat consumes are still expensive and boats themselves are expensive. even shitty inflatable rhibs are like ten fucking grand

>>2055429
>no because even if you're a great wrencher all the various fluids and part the boat consumes are still expensive and boats themselves are expensive.
To add to this, you need to do stuff like take the boat out of the water to reapply hull coatings or work on stuff that goes through the hull.
Sometimes you need a diver to fix stuff while the boat is in the water.
This kind of thing is only possible in a marina and that gets expensive.

>>2055429
>even shitty inflatable rhibs are like ten fucking grand
I thought that was just because it's what the military uses and they're happy to pay way too much for everything. And if some civilian wants to larp as GI Joe he can pay a large sum for his tacticool muhrine boat.

>>2054274 (OP)

if it floats, files or fucks...lease, don't buy.

>>2055471
>And if some civilian wants to larp as GI Joe
Almost every civilian yacht has a RIB, it's by far the most practical way of ferrying passengers and supplies from an anchored yacht to the beach/shore/dock.

There's nothing larpish about it, they're ubiquitous in the civilian world.

>>2055471
nah, other way around. the military uses them because they're "cheap"(for a boat) and easy to maintain. you can get them at fucking Cabelas but a tiny one that only fits one or two people is literally about 7000 bucks and only comes with a 25hp engine according to the flyers they keep leaving at my door

heres one i found online that is not LARPCORE and is 5400 USD but its fucking electric
https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/2025-zodiac-nomad-3-9-rib-alu-9728656/

and ofc you're not loading that thing into your truck easily, so you probably want a trailer, now you need to own a home that fits the trailer and boat (preferably separately for maintenance on either), replacement parts are largely proprietary, etc, meanwhile you can get a used Miata for 4k and parts for them fall off of trees

>>2055426
I love how basically every vehicle other than a car is basically a money pit, and even cars are climbing in price

>Jet aircraft powertrains are specifically designed to turn Money into Noise
>Prop aircraft need a nicer house than the one you live in to not melt in the rain (or just get towed away)
>Helicopters have wings that travel faster than your wallet can open
>Bicycles have an inverse relationship between utility and price
>Motorcycles are 35k$ suicide devices that you need a car to transport to the garage anyway
>E-Scooters exist solely to burn your house down and your insurance company knows it
>Boat stands for BUST OUT ANOTHER THOU

>>2055627
>>Bicycles have an inverse relationship between utility and price
That makes cheap bikes very useful, which is arguably true.
Just don't overspend for a gucci performance bike as your daily beater and you're fine.
If you only want one bike then get a mid-range hybrid or CX if you think you're hot shit but still sensible.

>>2055628
every good bike i've ever had was some 300$ canadian tire special "mountain bike". they're basically unmaintainable but until they finally break they're just better than the ridiculous 9000$ hypercruisters i've ridden (let alone meme hipster shit like light single speeds, or *UGH* fixies)

I've personally never had the joy of disc brakes but the new-in-box ones I see come with them now, at least, and rim caliper brakes are entirely sufficient for low-speed street commuting

>>2055630
>rim caliper brakes are entirely sufficient for low-speed street commuting
They're definitely sufficient but they take more maintenance than disc brakes, you need to fuck with them a bit to maintain braking performance as the pad wears.

Disc brakes are set and forget until the pad wears down and replacing pads doesn't require fucking with the mounting posts and shit.

>>2054637
Tell us an horror story about boats you've worked on.

>>2055692
>you need to fuck with them a bit to maintain braking performance as the pad wears
you just turn the barrel.
>fucking with the mounting posts and shit
cartridge pads are cheap. you slide the cartridge into the holder and mount the pads as usual. then when the pads wear out you just slide them out and new ones in. I don't think anyone uses block pads in 2025 unless like you they just don't know the cartridge ones exist.

>>2055627
>every vehicle other than a car is basically a money pit
Delusional, cars are one of the biggest money pits, you're stupid anon. Also, motorcycles aren't $35k lmao

>>2054345
I drive a Benz.

>>2055795
you can choose to not keep your car maintained though. even if you're the biggest nigger alive the cops have better things to grill you about than your lack of insurance, and if you keep your nose clean you will never be looked at closely enough for pigs to realize your MVI stickers are out of date

>>2056059
I drive Audi. German car niggas ww@???

>>2056059
That means fuck all, povvos can get a Mercedes on finance

>>2054274 (OP)
Depends on the boat.

I was looking to build a sailing dinghy with a cabin for inland waters. What necessities should I include if I am wanting to sleep onboard with a partner?

>Camping stove/food prep surface
>Rotomolded cooler
>Boom tent
>Buddy heater?
>Cartridge toilet?

>>2055627
>Bicycles have an inverse relationship between utility and price
Yeah well what's wrong with that? At least back in 2009 or so, I figured the sweet spot for me was around $500. I got a brand-new picrel with essentials (lights and lock). Was extremely useful for commuting around the city as well as some exercise and recreation. I didn't go off-roading but it was sturdy enough to handle shitty Boston/Cambridge/Brookline streets without ever getting a pinch flat or having an accident. It had straight handles for stable maneuverability and was light enough to be reasonably fun to ride and easy enough to carry up and down staircases.

I've since moved away to the interior and a semi-rural area, so don't use it much anymore. But I got a solid 8 years out of that bike. WELL worth the $500. I could have gotten some cheap beater from craigslist but I didn't need to save $300 to roll the dice on getting piece of junk. And I didn't need (or even want) a specialty bike (racing bike, mountain bike, etc). Everyone who had more performance-oriented road bikes seemed to be constantly getting flat tires, and all the extra weight and complexity of a mountain bike would have been a waste on city streets.

I did always wonder why it's so rare to find a decent performance-oriented pedal-powered boat. Traditional 2-seater paddleboats are kind of a joke.

>>2054274 (OP)
>boats are actually pretty affordable if you just own a drydock
you don't say