https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/technology/trump-palantir-data-americans.html
In March, President Trump signed an executive order calling for the federal government to share data across agencies, raising questions over whether he might compile a master list of personal information on Americans that could give him untold surveillance power.

Mr. Trump has not publicly talked about the effort since. But behind the scenes, officials have quietly put technological building blocks into place to enable his plan. In particular, they have turned to one company: Palantir, the data analysis and technology firm.

The Trump administration has expanded Palantir’s work across the federal government in recent months. The company has received more than $113 million in federal government spending since Mr. Trump took office, according to public records, including additional funds from existing contracts as well as new contracts with the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon. (This does not include a $795 million contract that the Department of Defense awarded the company last week, which has not been spent.)

Representatives of Palantir are also speaking to at least two other agencies — the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue Service — about buying its technology, according to six government officials and Palantir employees with knowledge of the discussions.

The push has put a key Palantir product called Foundry into at least four federal agencies, including D.H.S. and the Health and Human Services Department. Widely adopting Foundry, which organizes and analyzes data, paves the way for Mr. Trump to easily merge information from different agencies, the government officials said.

Creating detailed portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a pipe dream. The Trump administration has already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens and others through government databases, including their bank account numbers, the amount of their student debt, their medical claims and any disability status.

Mr. Trump could potentially use such information to advance his political agenda by policing immigrants and punishing critics, Democratic lawmakers and critics have said. Privacy advocates, student unions and labor rights organizations have filed lawsuits to block data access, questioning whether the government could weaponize people’s personal information.

Palantir’s selection as a chief vendor for the project was driven by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, according to the government officials. At least three DOGE members formerly worked at Palantir, while two others had worked at companies funded by Peter Thiel, an investor and a founder of Palantir.

Some current and former Palantir employees have been unnerved by the work. The company risks becoming the face of Mr. Trump’s political agenda, four employees said, and could be vulnerable if data on Americans is breached or hacked. Several tried to distance the company from the efforts, saying any decisions about a merged database of personal information rest with Mr. Trump and not the firm.

This month, 13 former employees signed a letter urging Palantir to stop its endeavors with Mr. Trump. Linda Xia, a signee who was a Palantir engineer until last year, said the problem was not with the company’s technology but with how the Trump administration intended to use it.

“Data that is collected for one reason should not be repurposed for other uses,” Ms. Xia said. “Combining all that data, even with the noblest of intentions, significantly increases the risk of misuse.”

Mario Trujillo, a lawyer with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights group, said the government typically collected data for good reasons, such as to accurately levy taxes. But “if people can’t trust that the data they are giving the government will be protected, that it will be used for things other than what they gave it for, it will lead to a crisis of trust,” he said.

Palantir declined to comment on its work with the Trump administration and pointed to its blog, which details how the company handles data.

“We act as a data processor, not a data controller,” it said. “Our software and services are used under direction from the organisations that license our products: these organisations define what can and cannot be done with their data; they control the Palantir accounts in which analysis is conducted.”

The White House did not comment on the use of Palantir’s technology and referred to Mr. Trump’s executive order, which said he wanted to “eliminate information silos and streamline data collection across all agencies to increase government efficiency and save hard-earned taxpayer dollars.”
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>>1408894 (OP)
Where are the gunfags who complain about a national gun ownership registry? This is 1000x worse.

>>1408928
>nah guys it isn't that bad because it isn't tracking muh guns
>it's just tracking everything else
>probably including if I recently purchased a gun

>>1408929
tRump will only track ANTIFA gun owners. And pre-arrest them when they riot when he declares himself eligible to run again as POTUS in 2029.

Ah so when Briben and Obama tracked us in order to spy on average Americans it was a-okay but when President Trump tracks people so that we can persecute illegals suddenly it's bad. I trust Peter Thiel way more than the likes of Bill Gates with my information

>>1408939
At least those were humans tracking other humans.

>>1408936
This is going to bite the Trump cult in the ass when a democrat administration uses the data for their own ends.

>>1409017
Yeah this is true, Democrats are well known for having a history of abusing government institutions to attack political opponents.
Did you know Trump was a Democrat?

Never matters if the POTUS is Red or blue, they are always going to infringe on our rights. The nation is lost, they have instilled Communism without directly calling it Communism.

>>1409019
Trump has no idea what year it is. I doubt he knows who Peter Theil is even though he's shaking the man's hand in the op photo.

>>1409022
I love this line of
>well Trump is retarded, actually
after four years of a guy with obvious brain problems

>>1408928
Oh now you want to pretend to give a fuck? Huh? Kiss my ass.
>durr whats the big deal if you've got nothing to hide durr
Funny when it affects you it's a problem.

>>1409017
Because you subhumans weren't already doxxing gun owners in blue states like New York and California?
>hurrr wait till we get into office then it's our turn -
- to do the same shit you were already doing. What else can you threaten us with? Really?

>>1409027
>>1409028
Good posts.
>you can't use your freedoms, that's too dangerous, here let me put you on a watch list simply because you purchased a firearm
>UH EXCUSE ME YOU CAN'T COMPILE DATA ON ME, REEEE THIS IS A VIOLATION OF MY LIBERTY REEE I DESERVE THE RIGHT TO SUPPORT TERRORISTS REE

>>1409025
This

>>1409025
>>1409040
Just because Biden was senile doesn't mean Trump isn't even more senile
>>1409027
>>1409028
>>1409029
Oh so you freaks can't get mad at this like you would if a dem did it?

>>1409042
>Just because Biden was senile doesn't mean Trump isn't even more senile
This is what I love. The fucking level of hypocrisy from dems who tried to gaslight us for four years that Biden was mentally competent enough to lead the country - when even a 10 year old (when she's not getting molested by Biden) can see he's not coherent. And so now that he's gone and it's safe to admit the truth, now they want to demand that we call out Trump - who doesn't have a fraction of the brain damage Biden had last year - and trying to use it as a political weapon.

We don't owe you jack shit! You couldn't call a spade a spade when your boy was in office, so you don't get to make demands that we call it when ours is in. Fuck off, you deserve shit, die in a fire.

>Oh so you freaks can't get mad at this like you would if a dem did it?
Again, you were perfectly fine with this shit when it was against gun owners. Don't ask us to be in your corner now.

>>1409050
>dems who tried to gaslight us
Who tried to gaslight you? You already thought the mainstream media was worthless before this.
>We
I like how you think there are more than 1000 extremists like you in the country.
>Again, you were perfectly fine with this shit when it was against gun owners.
It still is against gun owners, but now it's everyone including gun owners, except you suddenly don't care because your orange retard did it.

>>1409052
>Who tried to gaslight you?
Yup. We're really going to play stupid now and pretend there wasn't media gaslighting out the ass, talking about how Biden was mentally capable of leading the country, capable of debating, capable to know what documents he was signing, etc.

>except you suddenly don't care because your orange retard did it.
No I don't care because you're demanding that I care, only because it affects you this time. Kick rocks, nigga.

>>1409053
What you call playing stupid everyone else calls "whataboutism". Any time someone criticizes Trump for acting like a crazy old man one of you idiots goes "B-b-b-but Biden...." like it still has relevance.
>No I don't care because you're demanding that I care
Yes it is your constitutional right to be a kneejerking partisan hypocrite. It's a GOP tradition at this point.

>>1409042
>if a dem did it?
They already did it. They've done it for years.

We live under political repression by establishment democrats. I'm not allowed to have an opinion about politics in public because I would be fired from my job, my bank account closed and be labeled as a domestic terrorist threat by retards who think deporting migrant rapists should be illegal.
>abloobloo whattabout the free speech of the protestors who support Palestine?
It's people like Zuckerberg and other deep blue intellectuals that skullfucked us for the last twenty years, why would we care about them?

>>1409057
If Obama had AI tools at his disposal that Trump is using for this then you people would be innawoods, off the grid, in your bunker, etc. howling at the moon with anger. Now that Trump is actually doing it you seem to be fine with it.

>>1409056
>Any time someone criticizes Trump for acting like a crazy old man one of you idiots goes "B-b-b-but Biden...." like it still has relevance.
You didn't want to call out Biden's senile bullshit, so stop demanding I call out Trump's non-senile bullshit. It's not happening.

>Yes it is your constitutional right to be a kneejerking partisan hypocrite.
From the massive hypocrite faggot on so many levels. You didn't give a fuck about the ATF's shenanigans, you couldn't care less that California and New York doxxed all of their gun license holders, you couldn't be bothered when California threw gun owners in jail for FOLLOWING their law and registering their "assault weapons" as required, couldn't find a fuck to give when banks started recording purchases of firearms or ammunition - but now you expect me to care when your name gets added to a list THAT I'M ALREADY ON THANKS TO YOU!

So go fuck yourself, monkey.

>>1409059
>It's not happening.
Oh but it is happening whether you want it to or not. We're not going to ignore Trump being older and more senile than Biden just because you think Biden was senile.
> You didn't give a fuck about the ATF's shenanigans
Apparently you don't give a fuck either or else you would be writing your congressman right now telling him how illegal Palantir's databases are going to be.

>>1409058
Obama tried to catch Snowden for revealing the dystopian surveillance programs the US was using on American citizen, retard.

Why do you even care about any of this shit, you supported this.

>>1409061
You're missing the point that Peter Theil is combining and expanding every government database (including the ATF's and the IRS) to keep track of every US citizen. Oh but that's right, orange retard gave permission so that makes it ok.

>>1409062
>You're missing the point that Peter Theil is combining and expanding every government database (including the ATF's and the IRS) to keep track of every US citizen.
You mean like a gun registry? Or like tax records?

>>1409078
I dunno, what do you think you get when you combine every government database into one using Palantir's AI, and then keep all the searches you do confidential? I almost wish Alex Jones hadn't been neutered by the Sandy Hook lawyers. The Alex from 10 years ago would have been ready for 1776 to commence over something this big.

>>1409079
>reee the gubmint is spying on meeee
Telecommunications companies have stored everything you've one by phone and internet in their databases for the last twenty years retard. You haven't been truly anonymous since 9/11.
>muh conspiracy theorists
>muh Alex Jones
The only reason why they're telling you about this is because you are now allowed to know about it.

>>1409080
All of the government agencies were required to keep separate databases before now. AT&T has no idea how many guns you own. But now Palantir does, and the database and search engine they're making, using Palantir's proprietary AI, is worse than anything ever before conceived.

It's useless to argue that any past president would have done the same because no president has had the AI tools available like there are now. Sure, Obama would have done it, but so would have FDR and Hoover and McKinley. So what.

>>1409082
>So what.
You're crying about the potential for authoritarian oppression to a guy who is already oppressed by authoritarians.

I can't go buy a gun, say what I want, attend a rally etc. without some shitlib in the government trying to dox me or catch me in a legal technicality to throw me in prison for the rest of my life. So why would I care about this?

I voted for Trump because if democrats are going to insist living in a surveillance hellscape, I want it to be one which is in favor of my side, not the one that's given me the boot for years.

>>1409082
he's just going to keep acting like a disingenuous faggot if you refute his points, you know

>>1409084
> I want it to be one which is in favor of my side
You unironically believe Peter Thiel is on your side? Really?

>>1409086
Peter Thiel is on the side of Israel, and Israel is allied with conservatives to suppress leftist retardation so that they can continue glassing Gaza.

If welding myself to neo-fascism means I can escape leftist authoritarian rule, I'm here for it.

>>1409089
good for you faggot, enjoy dying alone

>>1409091
Papiere bitte jose

>>1409092
you're not american and will now cry about it

>>1409093
Don't make me tap the archive.

>he called me what i am again :'(

>>1409094
Bro xe's fucking insane.
Whenever xe talks to someone on this board who disagrees with xem, step 1 is call them esl, step 2 is call them samefag

>>1409060
>Apparently you don't give a fuck either or else you would be writing your congressman right now
I've already wrote congressmen several times about the ATF's bullshit over the years. Did you even once?

No? Then fuck off.

>>1409061
>Obama tried to catch Snowden for revealing the dystopian surveillance programs the US was using on American citizen, retard.
This x1000. You motherfuckers are bitching about what Theil is doing ONLY because Trump is in office. When Obama was saving those dirty Skype videos of you showing your cock to your girlfriend, that you thought was private, none of you were against that. In fact you called Snowden a TRAITOR! I've even argued with you subhuman leftists that said "well it's happening either way (gov spying on your internet) so who cares now that it's out in the open?"

It's only okay when YOU do it. When Obama or Biden is doing fucked up shit against the people, you're perfectly fine with it. Where do you get the balls to tell Trump voters anything?

>>1409125
I doubt it
>>1409126
You don't seem to understand how what Trump has enabled Palantir to do with his executive order is levels beyond what Obama or Bush did with the NSA. A AI assisted profile of every American across all government agencies is something out of J. Edgar Hoover's wet dreams.

>>1409144
>You don't seem to understand how what Trump has enabled Palantir to do with his executive order is levels beyond what Obama or Bush did with the NSA.
I well and truly do not give a shit.

>>1409144
>I doubt it
I don't give a fuck. I already know you didn't say shit even once to the ATF so suck my average sized cock.
>You don't seem to understand
No, you don't seem to understand. You never say shit when a democrat is in office, you don't get to demand I say shit when a Republican is in office. You set this precedent.

>>1409147
>You never say shit when a democrat is in office
There was huge outcry while Obama and Biden were in office. You didn't see it because you only read clickbait trash for news.

>>1409150
>There was huge outcry while Obama and Biden were in office.
Dems called critics of Obama racist.
Dems called criticisms of Biden 'threats against democracy'.

>>1409152
This is wrong and you should feel bad for lying on the internet.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/obamas-surveillance-reform-promises-one-year-later
https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2013/11/13/245037300/how-obamas-response-to-nsa-spying-has-evolved
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2014/01/20/obamas-nsa-speech-has-little-impact-on-skeptical-public/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/07/every-move-you-make-obama-nsa-security-surveillance-spying-intelligence-snowden/

I don't understand this argument, and I see it all the time.
Like, let's say you're right. The other side are hypocrites, they didn't complain when their guy did it, it's all true.
Alright. So what's your point? This is still bad and we should still be upset about it. We should have been upset about it before? Yeah, you're right, but not doing so doesn't mean we shouldn't be upset about it this time. That doesn't make any sense.

>>1409154
You're assuming we're not already doing something about it. Unfortunately, the only thing you can do is try to minimize your online profile and give out as little information as possible. Pay for cash when you can, don't use social media, don't go to political rallies or protests, etc. Just understand that this mass surveillance push is going to happen more and more regardless of who is in office.

>>1408939
The mental gymnastics you must do on a regular basis can’t be anything less than extraordinary

>>1408936
>>1409017
>Trumptards thinking that a Democrat president won't use the same powers instituted & used, nay, abused by their orange god and they never complain about their cult leader doing what said leader never had the right to so much as think of doing in the first place. If they complain when a Democrat president does the same as Trump, they're subhuman hypocrites that don't have the right to have opinions
>how their orange god being a dictator because the thought he had the right to exact revenge against those who 'wronged' him will bite them in the ass
That's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for them.

>>1409162
>blah blah blah we're going to keep doing what we've been doing whether Trump is in office or not, except this time we'll pretend to be justified next time

>>1409163
>blah blah blah it's okay for us and our orange god to do what we/he likes to Democrats, but Democrats and their president don't have the right to do the same to us
If rightards can't take tyranny, then they and their Tyrant-in-Chief never had the right to be tyrannical against those not exactly like them in the first place. Can dish it out but can't take it? Rightard hypocrites don't have the right to have opinions. They only have the right to have tyranny imposed on them, and like it.
Democrat tyranny against rightards will continue until opinions improve.

>>1409163
>Guys, having to get a covid shot is exactly the same as having a comprehensive database of all american data and a police force who is allowed to arrest anyone for any reason, never identifies themselves, and can completely ignore due process to deport someone to a labor camp

So many redditors
Upvotes for all of you my fellow narwalls

>>1409153
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_Governance_Board
>"The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency has previously addressed the spread of what they referred to as "mis-, dis-, and malinformation", as well as addressing Russian disinformation as part of their election security efforts in 2020"
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malinformation
>"Malinformation is information which is based on fact, but removed from its original context in order to mislead, harm, or manipulate.[1] Whether something should be considered malinformation can therefore contain an element of subjectivity, and it is therefore a controversial concept."

>>1409165
>but Democrats and their president don't have the right to do the same to us
They've already been doing it. This goes back to my earlier question: what can you threaten us with? You've already censored us, thrown us in jail, forced us out of work, track what we spend money on, can take our property at any time whenever you feel like it, and can even have us killed.

What else you got?

>>1409167
I mean I didn't even bring up the COVID shit, but since you want to go there...

>Guys, having to get a covid shot
From the party that cries about bodily autonomy all the time. Ironic.
>as having a comprehensive database of all american data
The same way you had a comprehensive database (name, age, gender, address, phone number, etc.) of every gun license holder in the state of California - and then leaked that shit to the world?
>and a police force who is allowed to arrest anyone for any reason
What is the ATF? What are red flag laws?
>never identifies themselves
What are no-knock raids?
>and can completely ignore due process
Yeah sucks doesn't it?
>to deport someone to a labor camp
to deport a non-American, usually illegal, to a detention facility (care to show proof that people in guantanamo are doing labor?).

>>1409167
I spent a couple years unable to board a plane, train or bus, or enter any business other than a grocery store, because I didn't want to get injected with an untested experimental gene therapy to fight a virus with a 99.99% survival rate if you weren't an obese 80 year old with heart failure.

Fortunately I didn't donate any money to the protests against that so I didn't get my bank account frozen which would've left me unable to pay rent. Vaxxies demanded that be done to me, most of them wanted me to go to prison if I brought up the basic facts involved in the situation. They said I was a threat because I didn't give up my rights to the leftist in power to keep people safe.

You keep making the retarded argument that authoritarianism is wrong but you supported the leaders who set this standard three years ago.

>>1409174
you're being quite a whiny faggot today huh

>>1409162
>bite them in the ass
They've been authoritarian communists for years
Trump being elected a second time was purely reactionary to their bullshit because they know if they don't frame Trump as megahitler they will never have power again.
Too bad they spent eight years calling everybody to the right of Clinton hitler, supporting riots and adopting white nationalist talking points. Leftists are bitching about Israel using talking points ripped out of timothy mcveigh's manifesto and trying to support muslims terrorist orgs that killed american citizens at the same time.
Good luck in the gulags you fuckheads

>>1409174
Oh and don't forget those polls democrats took where they supported mandates for the government to fine people that refused the vaccine, jail anyone who criticized the vaccine, wanted everyone to carry proof of vaccination, wanted those who refused the jab to wear trackers, supported taking children away from whoever refused the jab and wanted to lock the unvaxxed in camps the same way Australia did.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/partner_surveys/jan_2022/covid_19_democratic_voters_support_harsh_measures_against_unvaccinated

>>1409175
quite indeed

>>1409178
stop samefagging

>>1409179
stop being a shill

>>1409182
esl having a meltdown

it's so easy to distract the shill from his agenda

>>1409177
Oh yeah I forgot that half the dems wanted to put us in concentration camps
>nooo you can't support Peter Thiel omg
Hahaha
Hahahahaahaa

>>1409185
>us
anon, nobody is buying your larp that you're a white american

>>1409177
Imagine being tricked into thinking Rassmussen was a genuine polling organization.

>>1409173
>You've already censored us, thrown us in jail, forced us out of work, track what we spend money on, can take our property at any time whenever you feel like it, and can even have us killed.
...and the same wouldn't be done unter Trump's tyranny if he became dictator for life as the MAGAtards want him to be, thus Trumptards would be the first to admit that he'll never run for a third term as that's all just a retarded 'meme' and he never had the right to so much as think of doing so in the first place because of the Constitution?
Unless you're prepared to admit that all rightards are hypocrites that don't have the right to have opinions and more than deserve all the tyranny imposed on them, Democrat tyranny against Trumptards will continue until opinions improve.
2020-2025 was a short four years
>admit that he'll never run for a third term as that's all just a retarded 'meme'
Another short four years. two with the upcoming midterms. As The 'Teabaggers' and Teatardism died out after Romney, and replaced with Trumptardism, the latter will be just as dead: and Trump Jr & Barron isn't Donald. Four short years as short as the previous Biden. Where did the time go then? Where will it go between now and early 2029? Fuckups in just four months. Approval rating through the floor. Tick-tock, tick-Tock, Trumpo. And like the Teatards, the cult of MAGA will die. Good

>>1408894 (OP)
>>1408895
>>1408896
Oh look. They're importing and installing the less-visible, non-physical parts of the Israeli apartheid tech stack. Clearly this is for everyone's safety.

>>1409239
>deserve all the tyranny imposed on them
This already happened to us anon.
Lefties have taught us that principles don't matter, only power matters.
This is literally why they're trying to argue with us. Political debate isn't a tool for constructive conversation for leftists, its a forum for manipulation. They wage war through words and trying to mimic our own values to disarm us.
This is the exact same tool they used to justify putting men in women's bathrooms. They threatened us when we disagreed, and that threat had power because it came with the justification that we were being unfair.
This threat had power because we care about fairness. Lefties don't care about fairness. They only hold our own standards against us so they can manipulate and oppress us.
>2020-2025 was a short four years
You have already lost, retard.
Trump's election was a repudiation of the clear manipulation tactics by psychopaths who insist that we must adopt twenty million rapists because we are holistic and fair nation, just like Germany and the UK are suffering through.
That sense of isolation you're feeling isn't unfounded. You're like a foreign object in the human body, being encased in a shell by the autoimmune system that is the American body politic.

>>1409305
This post is classic woke right indoctrination on display.

>>1409305
>the rightards' Tyrant-in-Chief, or that orange Nixon would be a normal sane Republican president like the last decent Republican one: Eisenhower
This is already happening
Righties have taught us that principles don't matter, only power matters.
This is literally why they're trying to argue with us. Political debate isn't a tool for constructive conversation for rightists, its a forum for manipulation. They wage war through words and trying to mimic our own values to disarm us.
This is the exact same tool they used to justify their bigotry. They threatened us when we disagreed, and that threat had power because it came with the justification that we didn't allow the bigots' wrong opinions to exist in our minds: and the rightards didn't like that..
This threat had power because they never care about fairness. Righties don't care about fairness. They only hold our own standards against us so they can manipulate and oppress us.
>the four short years previously. the four short months that have tanked Trump's approval rating. The two short years in which normal decent Republican voters will suffer, thus will exact their political revenge in the midterms. It's already starting after Wisconsin
You have already lost, rightards.
Biden's election was a repudiation of of the clear manipulation tactics by psychopaths who insist that we must adopt their wrong opinions because they are holier-than-thou and an unfair nation, just like UK was suffering before Starmer was elected with a massive 400+ seat majority because so many had enough of the Conservatives, including Boris 'Bozo the Clown' Johnson that Trump said was a 'Teriffic Guy'
The sense of isolation you're feeling is because reality doesn't care about your feelings and no normal sane human will ever accept your wrong opinions. You're like a disease that infected the /news/ body politic.
With just some changes, it's so easy to turn your own weapon that is your own words against you.