Everyone laugh at Russia!

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/01/europe/ukraine-drones-russia-airbases-intl

Ukraine has carried out large-scale drone strikes against several air bases deep inside Russia, destroying multiple combat planes, according to the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU).

The operation, dubbed “Spiderweb,” comes on the eve of expected peace talks in Istanbul between Russia and Ukraine, and involved the most ambitious simultaneous strikes on Russian air bases carried out by Ukraine since the war began.

An SBU source said that Russian bombers were “burning en masse” at four air bases hundreds of miles apart, adding that drones had been launched from trucks inside Russia.

Ukraine planned the operation for more than a year and a half and used 117 drones to carry out the attacks, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said in an address on Sunday night.

“The planning, organization, and all the details were perfectly prepared. It can be confidently said that this was an absolutely unique operation,” Zelensky said.

The Trump administration was not given a heads-up about the operation, an administration official told CNN.

More than 40 aircraft were known to have been hit, according to the SBU source, including TU-95 and Tu-22M3 strategic bombers and one of Russia’s few remaining A-50 surveillance planes. According to the SBU, the operation caused an estimated $7 billion in damages and hit 34% of Russia’s strategic cruise missile carriers at its main air bases.

>>1409222 (OP)
1. Strategic bonbersare useless in this conflict and are not used. This alleged victory is meaningless to the actual war being fought on the ground and pure propaganda

2. This useless attack with no real bearing on the actual war being fought on the ground is proof that NATO commanders are ordering Ukrainian MOD to attack targets NATO finds a threat to itself not threats to the actual ground war fought in "East Ukraine" (West Russia). NATO is forcing Ukraine to prioritize targets for its own benefit, not for the purpose of Ukrainian victory

3. Putin has already declared this a terrorist attack and is meeting to discuss a nuclear response. Hohols are fucked.

4. You will never be a woman

5. Russia is still gaining more success on the real battlefield, not some non-existent air war

hi russia shill, here for more humiliation? it's so predictable that it's almost not funny anymore

>>1409226
Ukraine has been losing territory nonstop ever since their Kursk suicide mission ended predictably in total hohol death. Keep coping and pretending that a couple of planes that was barelt used in the war is gonna change the ground war

no matter how bad life gets, just remember, at least you're not russian

>>1409225
>3. Putin has already declared this a terrorist attack and is meeting to discuss a nuclear response.
Source on this!?! Oh my God I wish a nigga would right now. Both fingers crossed, PLEASE give me a source!

>>1409229
the source is he'll be assaulted by his higher ups if he doesn't post what he's told to

>>1409225
>1. Strategic bonbersare useless in this conflict and are not used.
How about their submarines at Severomorsk? Are they irrelevant too? Because that also got hit.

>>1409222 (OP)
drones for planes good bargain that's like what a 100000x trade in value? 4-5k military drone for a 50mill plane x41 + a submarine

>>1409222 (OP)
The humiliation of Putin will continue until opinions improve.
>that Russian retard calls what Ukraine did 'Terrorism'
What the Resistance in France did. Was what they did in what you refer to as the 'Great Patriotic War' terrorism, Vlad? Especially when they were helped by USAAF P-51 Mustang pilot Chuck Yeager?

>>1409225
You will never be a man

>>1409235
Comparing the value would require the shit Russia lost being something money could buy, but none of the shit they lost is shit they're in any position to replace, nor will they be for a very long time. They have neither the factories, machines, parts, nor technical expertise to replace any of this shit and more modern replacements aren't even in the pipeline.

>>1409225
William 'Lord Haw-Haw' Joyce. More than just his opinions were destroyed.
Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf aka 'Baghdad Bob'. His opinions were destroyed as surely as those M1 Abrams appearing in the distance behind him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf
'He was nicknamed "Comical Ali" by commentators in the United Kingdom; commentators in Italy similarly nicknamed him "Alì il Comico". These nicknames were given because he made statements about the conflict that were wildly at odds with reality, and western media treated him as a parody during the initial stages of the Iraq War'
As no normal sane person allows retarded opinions spewed by subhumans to exist in their superior minds, what makes Putinbots in /news/ think that whatever they say will be accepted?
If Vlad's propaganda purveyors have the ability to think, that is. Normal sane humans can think for themselves, thus deny Putinbots the right to infect them with their retarded opinions, so there's the problem for those propaganda spewers.
Lord Haw-Haw. Baghdad Bob. They were propagandists. They were on the wrong side of history. One a subhuman that was hanged for the crime of having wrong opinions. The other's credibility just as dead: his opinions never had the right to exist in the first place, and reality made sure of that. If Putin was the 'Strong Man' as so many memetards claim, he would have conquered Ukraine in just three days. Three years later, Putin's up to his eyeballs in his own Vietnam. That scene on the roof of the US Embassy in Saigon which was the last nail in the US's propaganda coffin in 1975. Today, US veterans are welcomed by Vietnamese with no ill will. NVidia investing in Vietnam. Putin: head of a pariah state. That pariah state's absolute state of their economy, with no outside investment. Your propaganda's not working. As what's just happened proves.
Reality doesn't care about your opinions & feelings, Ivans. Good

>>1409244
and nothing the ukrainians have is anything they can replace, its all paid for buy our tax dollars. and once Trump ceases all aid they won't be able to produce shit. At when that happens, Russia will still have the logistical backing of the greatest technological industrial power on the planet

>>1409253
your mother must regret you

>>1409253
0.02 Kopecks have been deposited into your account. Putin values your hard work.

>>1409253
won't matter, if Russia escalates to nukes the rest of the world is going to retaliate. They just lost billions in equipment. Ukraine will still get funding from the rest of the west.
them losing all those bomber planes just cripples their choices. Poland should be giving Ukraine a big ol hug and kiss right about now they might've just saved them.

>>1409253
>Russia will still have the logistical backing of the greatest technological industrial power on the planet
North Korea, amirite?
>most advanced tank: a remodelled T-62 with elements of the T-72
Ukraine has Leopard IIs, Challenger IIs & M1 Abrams. But that's beside the point. Ukraine is very on point with their drones: all those Russian tanks destroyed & Ivans fleeing from the scene after seeing their comrades burn.
Reality destroys propaganda. Just ask all those North Koreans captured by Ukrainian soldiers. Those who ran fast enough away from those Ukrainian drones and towards their operators. Those Nazis in WWII had the sense to run towards the Allies in the west and not the Russians in the east when they knew it was all over for them. In then Soviet Berlin, Goebbels' propaganda destroyed him.

>>1409259
wow so with all those brand new ukrainian tanks surely ukraine is winning the war right? after all apparently the russians have old tanks with most of them destroyed. that is what is happening right not right?

oh wait ...

>>1409260
>oh wait ...
Russians don't need to wait for those Ukrainian drones. But then they literally won't know what hits them
Like the Spanish Inquisition, Putin didn't expect what happened.
Like Vietnam, Ukraine doesn't have to win. It just doesn't have to lose. Russia has to win - and it can't.
But you keep waiting for those 0.02 Kopecks with every piece of propaganda you're posting in /news/, expecting to be paid by Putin who values your hard work. Oh wait...

>>1409260
I refer you to >>1409251
You, >>1409260 = Baghdad Bob

>>1409263
NTA but can I ask you a serious question
Is Ukraine winning this war?

>>1409227
>It's just like a third of their missile carriers, they didn't need those anyways

>>1409263
>Like Vietnam, Ukraine doesn't have to win. It just doesn't have to lose. Russia has to win - and it can't.
>>1409267
You've clearly lost with your lack of reading comprehension
Did Goebbels win against reality? Serious question

>>1409225
>Strategic bonbersare useless in this conflict and are not used.
Damn the FAS really fucks you ziggers up. The Russian strategic bomber force has been slinging volleys of cruise missiles at Ukrainian cities the entire war. This just put a serious hole in that.

>>1409279
>ukrainian cities

military targets within the city. hohols fault for hiding military targets amongst civilians

also
>implying bombing a bunch of buildings in Kiev is going to help the piggers dying in the trenches.
like I said. these bombers are useless to the actual war effort and losing them effects Russias ability to win this war in no way whatsoever

>>1409280
You bombed schools, hospitals, and residences. They're not military targets.
>b-but they were human shields!
Even if that were true, someone taking a hostage does not mean it's okay to kill the hostage, you fucking retard. That's the exact opposite of how it works.

>>1409280
Boy I sure wish we could've blown up entire blocks in Iraq and said fuck those civilians. Would've made a lot easier and saved coalition lives.

>>1409280
>these bombers are useless to the actual war effort and losing them effects Russias ability to win this war in no way whatsoever
So you say. As >>1409279 says
>The Russian strategic bomber force has been slinging volleys of cruise missiles at Ukrainian cities the entire war. This just put a serious hole in that
What a lying Putinbot that is Baghdad Bob 2.0 says. That said by someone who isn't a lying Putinbot. Gee, that one's a toughie. /s
Losing those bombers? Good. That affects your feelings and Putin's because it humiliates him? Even better. This unjustifiable war that started because a subhuman thought it had the right to have ideas above its station - just like another inferior subhuman Austrian that started the Great Patriotic War' - and annex a part of another country it never had the right to so much as look at is purely a matter of so-called 'Pride' now. Putin going to St. Basil's Cathedral in Moscow is a hypocrite because he's committing that deadly sin: Pride. Well, his feelings are now in a special little Hell of his own making when he could have simply not had ideas above his station. He could simply admit now that all his opinions are more than wrong and, except for an embassy in Kyiv & trade with Ukraine, leave that country & Crimea and never so much as look in the direction of Ukraine again. 50 years later, is Vietnam a pariah state? There's a US Embassy in that country. US veterans can visit with no ill will from the locals. A US company bigger than Elol's Tesla invests in that country.
Did NATO annex Crimea? Did NATO invade Ukraine? It's more than just Putin's pride and opinions that are more than wrong if your answer is anything other than 'No'.
Question: Is Putin paying you 0.02 Kopecks every time you spew his propaganda here in /news/ because he values your hard work?
Reality isn't on your side. Was it on Goebbels's side?
>Did the Allies annex Sudetenland? Did the Allies invade Poland?
Did NATO annex Crimea? Did NATO invade Ukraine?

>>1409222 (OP)
AHAHAHAHA
GET READY FOR THE TRENCHES VANYA, IT'S GONNA BE A HOT SUMMER

Ww3 has been the main goal this whole time. With the railroad bridges now this, historians will look back and say we were in ww3 for 2 years already in 2025.

>>1409253
>and nothing the ukrainians have is anything they can replace
In fairness, once the war's over and they're in NATO next to a crippled Russia, they won't need to replace jack shit. Nobody's gonna fuck with them again. This is the last great war in Europe.

>>1409225
Sounds like cope.

>>1409269
Why didn't you answer the question?

>>1409310
Why didn't you read >>1409263 ?
Why doesn't reality care about your question?

>>1409319
I don't know anything about the war. I don't even know what a kopek is.
I just want to know if Ukraine is winning.

>>1409263
>Like Vietnam, Ukraine doesn't have to win. It just doesn't have to lose
What does that even mean? If they're in a war, they can only win or lose. Vietnam won.

>>1409321
>IT HAS TO BE BLACK OR WHITE!
Ok, in what ways did Vietnam win? Because I consider "still hasn't been absorbed by Russia" to be Ukraine winning considering the original goal was for them to be flying Russian flags within two weeks of this starting.

>needing to ask a question when the last three years have already answered it
>>1409310
>>1409320
>>1409321
Why can't you figure things out for yourself without needing to be spoonfed ?

>>1409322
>Ok, in what ways did Vietnam win?
Achieved independence from France/USA.

>>1409327
Ok so, Ukraine was already independent from Russia so, kinda N/A to this situation.

>>1409329
>Ok so, Ukraine was already independent from Russia
Nah, Russia controlled Crimea and parts of the Donbas.

>>1409322
>Ok, in what ways did Vietnam win?
America lost.

>>1409323
Because I think you're full of shit and only support the war because you want Ukrainians to throw themselves at a wall until Russia is dead or Ukraine is too broken to exist.

>>1409341
>comes up with this retarded 'answer' to its own question because someone won't spoon-feed this retard
>still can't figure it out for itself
>the levels of anti-intellectualism allowed to exist
The movie Idiocracy was supposed to be a satire, not a documentary
>I think
There's that opinion of yours proved wrong by yourself, along with the rest of your retarded opinions following that.
>I think
You clearly can't. or you wouldn't have those retarded opinions. And you wouldn't have needed to ask that previous retarded question in the first place.
>you want Ukrainians to throw themselves at a wall
How ultra-retarded can one subhuman become?
But the answer to your question is figure things out for yourself

>>1409341
>until Russia is dead or Ukraine is too broken to exist.
Based. Slava Ukraini. Shit's them or the Russians and I'd very much like it to be the Russians, as would Ukrainians by all reporting.

That said, if Russia wants to unconditionally surrender, that would be fine too.

>>1409341
>you want Ukrainians to throw themselves at a wall until Russia is dead or Ukraine is too broken to exist.
Literally what is their other options? Hope "gee, I know Russia executed all their other POWs and sold the children in areas they captured to god knows where, but maybe if we surrender they won't annihilate us physically and culturally".

>>1409341
There's a third option... USA gets involved and ends Russia as a political threat once and for all.

>>1409352
>Literally what is their other options?
Make peace. It would save lives.
If Zelensky loses, he'll just flee to Israel, just like all those jews he helped flee to the west bank before conscripting Ukrainians. He has no long-term investment in Ukraine that doesn't involve money or total war.

>>1409374
how did all those ceasefires with russia go again? the missile spam sure was peaceful wasn't it

>>1409374
Literally every single time they've "made peace" with Russia they just started up again in a few years. Any treaty they make that isn't backed with force is worthless.

>>1409385
A temporary peace is better than grinding the remaining ethnic population of Ukraine into dust.

>>1409433
relax neville chamberlain

>>1409435
How am I wrong? Tell me honestly.
Total war means Ukraine isn't going to exist in a few years. Or potentially Russia, if Europe gets off their ass and intervenes. But that's still going to result in mass slavic death.

>>1409442
if you don't understand the chamberlain reference you're too much of an imbecile to argue with

>>1409433
>Yeah we'll just delay it a year before Russia comes back even stronger
You have to be a paid shill right?

>>1409444
yes, and it's hilarious that they're this obvious

>>1409443
I know who chamberlain is. He wanted to make peace with Hitler, and Hitler wanted to make peace with Britain. But that was after Britain declared war on Germany for declaring war on Poland, for the same reasons that Russia declared war on Ukraine.

>>1409446
>But that was after Britain declared war on Germany for declaring war on Poland, for the same reasons that Russia declared war on Ukraine.
Holy fucking cope.

>>1409447
Germany's stated reason for invading poland was that the bolsheviks were killing ethnic germans living in poland.
Russia's stated reason for invading ukraine was that zelensky was killing ethnic russians.
Woah wow it's almost like history rhymes or something.
Isn't it weird that Churchill owned a significant amount of money to Britain? And isn't it weird that after the Rothschilds helped settle his debt he was all-in to fight war with Germany?
If you were to believe me right now, why would this be relevant today?

pol logic is stultifyingly retarded, isn't it

Must suck to acknowledge that the leaders of the western world, funded by Israeli energy magnates and being spearheaded by jewish man, are trying to wage war on the seat of the orthodox church.
Maybe we should start asking what these people have said about white christians for the last few decades. Now there's an interesting idea.

>>1409453
get the russian cock out of your mouth and get a real job, indian shill

>>1409433
>A temporary peace is better than grinding the remaining ethnic population of Ukraine into dust.

>Temporary peace called
>5th columnists throughout the western world get military aid to Ukraine cut off because "they don't need it any more"
>Russia, which isn't bombed to absolute shit, and which would probably see sanctions lifted, uses that period to build up its military with its massive industrial base
>Ukraine gets ground to dust in a year when Russia re-invades

Anything other than a permanent peace with security guarantees is suicide for Ukraine. They might as well surrender at that point.

Fuck off with your give peace a chance bullshit when the other side has zero incentives to keep to that peace.

Also
>ethnic population
>as if Russia is only killing ethnic Ukrainians and not anyone they can hit

>>1409442
>Total war means Ukraine isn't going to exist in a few years
First of all, Russia doesn't have the means to wage total war against all of Ukraine without involving nukes, which they won't. They have continuously burned through their stockpiles of weaponry and even with Iran feeding them a constant stream of glide bombs, North Korea dumping a bunch of faulty ammo on them, and their factories running at max capacity, they're still seeing their supplies drop. Between depot strikes by Ukraine and Russia holding their front line with explosives spam, they're burning through decades of ammo. Add on to that Russia losing a fat chunk of their air force recently, being almost completely depleted of several kinds of armor, and basically every bit of materiel in service wearing out, and Russia is effectively running out of military in every respect except manpower and you can't wage fucking total war with lightly armed conscripts.

Second of all, mass death of Russian orcish hordes is a good thing.

Third of all, Europe won't get involved beyond arming Ukraine to the teeth.

>>1409449
Russia's stated reason was to denazify Ukraine. I know this 3 day special military operation has been going on a while, but at least remember your own lies.

>>1409457
>denazify Ukraine
And to prevent a genocide, if google's AI is anything to go by.
>3 day special military operation
Do you want to know something funny and fucked up?
I genuinely don't know what you're talking about. I knew that this war was retarded from the jump. Everything you say has the same earmarks as the shit I heard from Bush during the Afghanistan war, so I ignored it over the years.
You retards use language like this as a gotcha, but it's something that only someone who is deeply tied to western propaganda would know about, because it's specifically designed to insult someone who exists on the opposite side of your gay propaganda war.
I'm literally advocating for peace and I asked you if Ukraine was winning, and you fags immediately started acting evasive and making accusations using memes that were developed at Langley.
I already knew Ukraine is losing for that reason. You're acting like a bunch of neocon fags who squirm when pressed on basic facts.

>>1409462
you certainly love being humiliated don't you russia shill

>>1409462
https://www.legion.org/information-center/news/landing-zone/2025/february/year-three-of-putins-three-day-war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_conducting_a_special_military_operation

>>1409456
>which they won't
If Russia was actually in an existential crisis, then they absolutely would.
If Russia wasn't, then Ukraine isn't going to win.
Not hard to figure out.
>mass death of Russian orcish hordes is a good thing
Yeah, according to Poles and Germs who keep trying to convince Americans how good of an investment blowing out their economy is to fund this war.
>Europe won't get involved beyond arming Ukraine to the teeth
Well they keep fucking talking about it, and they asked Trump for permission, so I don't know what you're talking about.

if anyone needs even more proof there's a literal russia shill in our ranks, look above

>>1409465
>If Russia wasn't, then Ukraine isn't going to win.
Ukraine doesn't need to march on Moscow to win this fucking war, dipshit.

>Yeah, according to Poles and Germs who keep trying to convince Americans how good of an investment blowing out their economy is to fund this war.
Brother, printing a bunch of cash to feed to US weapons factories spread throughout our country isn't blowing out our economy. It's feeding it. Plenty of American towns would look like West Virginia if we ever actually got our military spending under control. That's not to say that's a good thing, but it is the current reality (deliberately created to prevent military spending from leaving the country and make reps and senators incentivized to keep pumping our bloated military budget, but I digress).

>Well they keep fucking talking about it, and they asked Trump for permission, so I don't know what you're talking about.
Seek professional help.

>>1409442
Who won the Cold War because one side couldn't afford to keep up with the other?
Right now, I'm not seeing one certain country in this war being a pariah state with no external investment and in dire financial straits.
Which country in the far east is US company NVidia investing in?
>>1409433
Which country's troops are being blasted to red dust by drones in Ukraine?
>>1409446
A bust of which UK prime minister is in the Oval Office because Trump admires him so much: Chamberlain or Churchill?
>>1409453
Must suck that all your opinions are eternally wrong and >>1409454 is more than right about you.

>>1409478
http://s7.postimg.cc/i41cpipbv/capslock.jpg

>>1409471
>Ukraine doesn't need to march on Moscow to win this fucking war, dipshit.
That's right. They cannot win this war.

>>1409484
>You can't win a war unless you take the other country completely
Yeah that's not how defensive wars work.

>>1409487
There's literally no way for Ukraine to defend against Russia's onslaught. They lost the war ages ago.

>>1409488
Funny how Russia still hasn't won then. Especially since the initial estimate was 2 weeks and we're now on year 3.

>>1409280
Yeah right because those maternity wards hundreds of kilometres from the frontlines are absolutely vital to the war effort.

>>1409484
>>1409488
Vietnam didn't need to march on Washington DC to win their fucking war, dipshit.
So why is there a US Embassy in that country? Why are US veterans welcomed there with no ill will? Why did US company NVidia invest in Vietnam?
Why will outside investment come into that part of eastern Europe? Sit down, Putin
There's literally no way Vietnam defended against America's onslaught from Agent Orange & Napalm to early laser guided bombs in the final months of the war. So who lost that ages ago?
Funny how there's literally no way for your opinions to defend against reality's onslaught. Yours and Putin's opinions cannot win this war.

Bridge down again.

>>1409518
>Bridge down again.
>The explosion hit one of the bridge's supports, but it was not damaged. The channel was added with wreckage being thrown onto the road, temporarily stopping traffic.
It's over for Russia

>>1409522
>but it was not damaged
Yeah, m8, I'm sure it's fine, lmao.

>>1409455
>Fuck off with your give peace a chance bullshit when the other side has zero incentives to keep to that peace.
Imagine if a mexican cartel flew drones into the US and ran them into the wings of the B-52's sitting on Barksdale airforce base. And after that happened, the cartel publicly thanked China for helping them do it.

Russia has tried to make peace multiple times. This is the reverse of peace. This is the "I am trying to drag America into a nuclear war" option.

>>1409629
>the cartel publicly thanked China for helping them do it.
Ukraine said the USA wasn't involved, lmao.

>Russia has tried to make peace multiple times
lmao.

>This is the reverse of peace.
Wow. It's almost as if Ukraine doesn't just want peace. They want their country back and for Russia to pay. If they just wanted peace, they could surrender.

>This is the "I am trying to drag America into a nuclear war" option.
Russia has a public nuclear doctrine and this doesn't trigger it. And that's setting aside the fact that their nukes probably have probably all been stripped for parts by corrupt officials at this point.

Unless you're arguing America would strike first, which, again, lmao.

>>1409629
All Putin has to do is admit that all his retarded opinions are more than wrong, and except for an embassy in Kyiv and trade with Ukraine, never so much as look in the direction of that country ever again. Vlad thought he could conquer Ukraine in just three days, swelled with so-called 'Pride'. Well, three years later it's purely a matter of pride for him now. And 'Pride' goes before a fall
There can be peace, sure: by Putin admitting his opinions are more than wrong. America had 'Pride' until a fall: of Saigon. That photo of the US Embassy there with people scrambling on the roof to get on the last Bell helicopter before that last part of US-controlled Vietnam ceased to exist and the Vietnamese won.
So why is it that 50 year later, there's a US Embassy in Hanoi - and a US Consulate in Ho Chi Minh City - and US veterans are welcomed in Vietnam with no ill will, and the US company NVidia invests in Vietnam? Not forgetting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Vietnam_relations
'Vietnam is now considered to be a potential ally of the United States, especially in the geopolitical context of the territorial disputes in the South China Sea and in the containment of Chinese expansionism Vietnam, one of the countries with the most favorable public opinion regarding the U.S., is the only communist country to have such a favorable view'
It's only Putin's so-called 'Pride' that's preventing peace. There is more than just peace betwen US and Vietnam, despite what happened 50 years ago. Can you figure out why this is? Seems that America doesn't need this retarded thing called 'Pride' to not only have peace but a close diplomatic relationship with a former 'enemy'. So what's Putin's excuse for admitting his retarded opinions are more than wrong and do the same as US did with Vietnam? And what's the excuse of the Putinbots to admit that it's not just Putin's retarded opinions that are more than wrong?

>>1409655
So you want Putin to.. apologize?

>>1409659
>>1409655
>All Putin has to do is admit that all his retarded opinions are more than wrong, and except for an embassy in Kyiv and trade with Ukraine, never so much as look in the direction of that country ever again
If America can not only make peace with Vietnam but have diplomatic relations with them decades later, what's Putin's excuse for not doing the same? And what's the Putinbots' excuse for not agreeing with that simple but 'Pride' destroying thing?
If Putinbots don't like that answer, that's their problem. Along with Putin's: their so-called 'Pride'. But hey, if 'Pride' is so life-threateningly important to him, he doesn't need to 'Apologize': simply admit to the world that all his opinions are more than wrong and he never had the right to so much as think of looking in the direction of Ukraine in the first place, pull out of that country - including Crimea - and apart from an embassy in Kyiv and trade with Ukraine, to never so much as look in the direction of that country ever again. And admit that in thinking of annexing Crimea before this war, he and Russia are inferior to everyone else.
How US made peace with Vietnam. How that has benefited them both despite a war decades ago. Putin doesn't have the right to any excuses now and just do the same.

>>1409666
>what's Putin's excuse for not doing the same?
Peace requires concessions on both sides. Zelensky reneged after approaching the table twice. And now he's decided to commit a dramatic escalation which will ensure that peace will never be an option on the table again.
History doesn't care who is moral, it only cares about who survives to write it.

>>1409668
'sup, Neville Chamberlain 2.0. Either you agree that Putin is completely wrong and needs to do what America ultimately did re. Vietnam or you're a Putinbot and like Putin all your opinions are more than wrong and you never had the right to have your propaganda listened to in the first place by those with minds infinitely superior to yours because they don't allow wrong opinions such as yours or Putin's to exist in theirs. Hey propagandatards, when I want your opinions I'll give them to you. History didn't care about Goebbels' opinions, so choose wisely.

>>1409670
Chamberlain was right actually. The allies had no proof that Germany was going to start conquering the world, they merely accused him of doing it and used that as a pretense to declare war against them to "defend themselves".
Woah wow it's almost like the west has used that same retarded argument against literally every country they invaded in the last twenty years, what are the odds?!
It's too bad Europoors are retarded, otherwise they would realize that Americans don't want to die in their retarded wars so that the jews in Israel can return to their european homelands. Maybe that's why they keep shitting on Trump and taking a keen interest in American foreign policy?
Good luck with the annexation, faggot.

>>1409748
A bust in the Oval Office of a UK Prime Minister thst Trump admires so much. Gee, I wonder why? Which PM is it of: Chamberlain or Churchill? Choose wisely.
Good luck with thinking normal sane people will allow your retarded propaganda for Putin and his & your wrong opinions to exist in their superior minds. And an inferior subhuman Austrian still lost WWII. Too bad for the Hitler 2.0 that is Putin: he's losing too. Good.