Trump orders National Guard to LA after clashes

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gkyggekgyo

US President Donald Trump has ordered 2,000 National Guardsmen to Los Angeles to deal with unrest over raids on undocumented migrants.

Trump said the federal government would "step in and solve the problem", after the Californian city saw a second day of clashes between protesters and federal agents.

Tear gas was used to disperse crowds as residents of the predominantly Latino Paramount district clashed with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents earlier in the day.

As many as 118 arrests were made in LA this week as a result of ICE operations, including 44 on Friday. California Governor Gavin Newsom has condemned the raids as "cruel".

Trump thanked the National Guard for a "job well done" in Los Angeles late on Saturday night. Despite this, the troops did not appear to have arrived in the city.

Early on Sunday the New York Times website quoted a federal official as saying that the force would arrive within 24 hours.

Trump criticised the city's Democratic governor and mayor in a post on his Truth Social platform, calling them "incompetent". He also said protesters would no longer be allowed to wear masks.

>>1410523 (OP)
Newsom said the federal government's takeover of the National Guard was "purposefully inflammatory" and would "only escalate tensions".

The National Guard is usually called by a state's governor, but Trump has used a provision that allows him to take control himself, Newsom's office told the AP news agency.

Trump had earlier hit out at the governor on social media, saying that if he and LA Mayor Karen Bass could not do their jobs, "then the Federal Government will step in and solve the problem, RIOTS & LOOTERS, the way it should be solved!!!"

Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth later threatened to mobilise active-duty marines if violence continued, saying troops at nearby Camp Pendleton were on "high alert". Newsom described this threat as "deranged behaviour".

The Paramount district had calmed considerably late on Saturday evening, but clashes between protesters and law enforcement were still happening.

Outside the Home Depot hardware store where the protests first erupted, the air was thick with tear gas and smoke.

LA county sheriffs fired flash bangs and tear gas every few minutes to try to clear protesters away.

Neighbours and protesters said migrants were locked inside local businesses afraid to come out. Paramount's population is more than 80% Hispanic.

More protests are expected in the LA area on Sunday.

>unrest outside/within the Capitol Building four yewrs ago
Law enforcers had to deal with shits there & then then clean up that which was far more intelligent from the walls left by said shits

>>1410523 (OP)
>Herr trump shits all over states rights

>>1410523 (OP)
The California national guard gets deployed more frequently for leftists protesting than it does traditional emergencies such as wild fires.
They are just that destructive and unpredictable

>>1410523 (OP)
>Trump celebrating the National Guard dealing with the Los Angeles protests
>Mayor confirms National Guard didn't even deploy yet and it was just the local pd

>>1410531
Especially since the protests were fucking started because Trump keeps disappearing people off the street with ICE thug squads. No ID, no visible faces, just a bunch of masked tactical guys abducting people.

>>1410536
His brain is mush

>>1410523 (OP)

Shitbrained wannabe fascist launched an actual insurrection on January 6th.

the american military's true purpose... to KILL AMERICANS

>>1410542
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-to-blame-for-death-of-woman-trampled-in-capitol-riot-family-member-says-idUSKBN29D2F4/
>the ultimate irony: four years ago, a mutt carrying a flag that said 'Don't Tread On Me' was trod on by her own kind to death
In Soviet USA, Americans kill you

>>1410523 (OP)
>no image
Shit board.

>illegals flying mexican flags on American soil
>antifa out in about smashing shit up
God I miss rittenhouse.

A certain someone in the capitol building four years ago didn't miss
Good

>>1410531
Oh so states can harbor illegals?

>>1410554
This is the same situation but reversed.
>leftists assaulting and bombing national guard
>illegals waving foreign flags after invading and destroying federal property
>Gavin Newsom refusing to help and unironically threatening to refuse to pay taxes to the government
Do it. Please. Destroy the final shred of hope that Trump might have left in his heart, that there is any peaceful solution.

>>1410557
>This is the same situation but reversed.
retarded hands typed these words

>>1410558
The funniest part is he thinks brown people are automatically leftist and illegal.

>>1410560
>sir, it looks like appealing to brown people won us 2024
>deport them all, but not the criminals. Leave the criminals alone.

>>1410557
>>Gavin Newsom refusing to help and unironically threatening to refuse to pay taxes to the government
The government is threatening to cut him off from getting any federal funding at all. Why would a state keep contributing such a disproportionate amount to the federal government when they'd get nothing back?

>>1410565
As Trump has repeatedly pointed out during his retarded tariff talks, its stupid to have a negative trade balance with somewhere else.
California would save so much money if they cut the leeches in the US out of the equation.

>>1410566
Reminder there's a part of California's farms that are facing potential drought this summer because of one of Trump's publicity stunts. He had Feds dump one of their reserve reservoirs to "help with the fires", with the local workers barely able to stop them from flooding a bunch of fields and houses by giving some warning and limiting how much they released at once.

The water didn't even get to the fires btw. It all wound up in the fucking ocean.

>>1410557
>waving foreign flags is a crime
This is your brain on nationalism.

>>1410557
Hey can we talk about the reason they're protesting first? Namely the Federal authorities wearing no identification randomly imprisoning people, raiding homes, and sending even legal migrants to a fucking prison camp without trial?

Why are leftists so angry that trump is deporting illegals who either have s criminal record or standing deportation orders?

>>1410569
No, that has to be completely removed from the national conversation because MAGA retards may realize thats the stuff they say they fight for

>>1410570
>trump is deporting illegals who either have s criminal record or standing deportation orders?
big if true. Source?
Because all we're seeing is anonymous people in discount tac gear hauling off anyone who is brown

>>1410571
Man where were all those "the second amendment is to protect against tyrants! States rights!" retards when that one family had their life savings, phones, and laptops stolen by ICE and their underaged daughters forced to strip on their own lawn, simply because they bought a house a migrant used to live in?

Link for those curious: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-citizen-family-traumatized-ice-raid-rcna203700

>>1410557
>waving foreign flags is a crime
A couple of hundred at the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics
>rightards in a tizzy over those whose gender isn't what those rightards think it is, and are against those of a different gender in a sport
So Trump's going to ban mixed doubles events at that Olympics? Just as Nicola Adams defended her 2012 London Olympics title at 2016 Rio, how is Trump going to stop Algeria's Imane Khelif doing the same at this upcomimg Olympics?

>>1410578
the Olympics will be a bloodbath and foreign nationals will be rounded up by the hundreds. It will be out Final Solution.

>>1410523 (OP)
>Trump quells insurrection in LA
Doesn't seem like he quelled much of anything. He made it worse by ordering Hegseth to send in marines.

>>1410573
>Source
https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-deportation-venezuela-tren-de-aragua-trump-0d3485e0985b9d30d493c9da0adf73ef
>>1410573
>all we're seeing is anonymous people in discount tac gear hauling off anyone who is brown
Big if true. Source?

>>1410573
Here's a random video from 9 days ago of them arresting an illegal from El Salvador wanted for murder and trafficking
https://youtu.be/frMoY8wISl4

schizo finally evaded the ban after having a mini melty saturday

>>1410575
That's the catch. "Don't Tread" only applies to them and theirs

>>1410537
>>1410539
>>1410540
>>1410558
>>1410560
I hope all of you (literally anyone on the left and anyone who even attempts to utter a thought about master trump being wrong for a single moment) get mauled to death by a hell storm (thousands upon thousands) of the hungriest most wildest African hyenas known to man

>>1410593
i hope you keep living your miserable life and nothing changes

>>1410593
>unwanted ban evader who keeps coming in and shitting up the board unironically wants to shoot what their schizo brain thinks are unwanted immigrants they delusively believe are shitting up the country
self deport

>>1410569
>Namely the Federal authorities wearing no identification randomly imprisoning people, raiding homes, and sending even legal migrants to a fucking prison camp without trial?
Convenient lies to rally moral support for leftist opposition.
ICE only knows who these people are because they have criminal records besides of being in the country illegally. That's why they are going after gang members first. They have a list with names and recorded addresses.
Leftists supporting illegals, terrorist organizations and fighting against the state will ensure that they never gain power again.

>>1410598
you're literally not american

>>1410598
>>1410593
>the left
>leftists
I like how you think only leftists are against Trump's illegal deportations.

>>1410565
> Why would a state keep contributing such a disproportionate amount to the federal government when they'd get nothing back?
Because then they are in open rebellion against the Union and the federal government. Lincoln threatened the south in his inaugural speech precisely because the South refused to pay taxes.

>>1410600
Does it matter? They're rebelling against the lawful constitutional authority of a sitting president.

>rebelling against the lawful constitutional authority of a sitting president.
you can hear the bootlicking between each word

>>1410602
You people have been bragging about hispanics voting for republicans and now suddenly they're leftists for displaying mexican flags.

>>1410605
It's funny how the 'you are not an American' anon is now simping for insurrectionists.
Do you think you could be deported, fucknugget?
>>1410606
Antifa is down there throwing M-80's and flying mexican flags. Draw your own conclusions.

>>1410607
i don't engage in arguments with you faggot, i'm here to make fun of you because you're a shill and you're bad at your job

>Antifa is down there throwing M-80's and flying mexican flags
>This is the slop I unironically slurp from my media overlords
I bet they're playing the same clip on repeat dozens of times an hour, like they usually do

Considering that deporting the criminal illegals is probably Trump's most widely supported policy, it's a weird hill for Democrats to die on

>>1410626
you're still not american

>>1410626
ICE being jackboots terrorizing anyone vaguely related to immigrants, legal or otherwise, while violating due process should be concerning to everyone. We've got people who's only crime was having darker skin who got locked up for two weeks because they didn't have their whole birth certificate on them (Source: https://www.azpm.org/s/100806-us-citizen-detained-for-10-days-by-immigration-officials-may-not-have-known-what-he-was-signing/)

>us-citizen-detained
>detained
You can be lawfully detained without a warrant or due process, retard.
Lying liars gonna lie.

>>1410630
fuck off faggot

>>1410630
>you can legally be deported without a warrant or due process
we know the stupid shit you believe in

>>1410626
They've deluded themselves into thinking everybody agrees with them, because they believe that what they want is an abject moral good.

As it turns out, no, the majority of Americans aren't actually in favor of letting tens of millions of illegals into the country. They're tired of being threatened by democrats to accept regressive policies that result in innocent Americans being hurt.

>>1410633
stop talking to yourself faggot

>>1410632
>“If he did sign it, he doesn’t know how to read, or nothing. He doesn’t know how to read. He doesn’t really understand. He says yes to everything. So he could, he could have done it without knowing what it was,”
kek

>>1410632
>you can legally be deported without a warrant or due process
Ice does not need a warrant from a judge to deport an illegal alien, they use what's called an administrative warrant and it's a form they fill out internally.
The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 allows ICE to summarily remove illegal aliens from the United States without a trial or warrant from an immigration judge
Ice does not need a warrant to arrest someone in a public space they only need probable cause to believe the person should be deported

I'm sorry that you don't like facts and your echo chamber lied to you, but you are in fact being lied to

>>1410634
You should really take your medication
>>1410633
>As it turns out, no, the majority of Americans aren't actually in favor of letting tens of millions of illegals into the country
That's what I mean, this is probably one of maybe two policies Trump has that's actually popular amongst the American public, and it's the one that Democrats are willing to fight the most.

There used to be a time when both Republicans and Democrats agreed that illegal immigration was a bad thing. Democrats have taken the brakes completely off the train on that one, and they're pretty much openly at the position right now that they don't care at all about illegal immigration

>>1410636
everyone knows all your posts are lies, you know that right, faggot

>>1410636
>The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 allows ICE to summarily remove illegal aliens from the United States without a trial or warrant from an immigration judge
Not what it says dumbfuck

>>1410639
Read it and dilate, faggot.
I'm sorry facts are at odds with your sheltered echo chamber world view
>https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/expedited-removal
>Expedited removal is a process by which low-level immigration officers can summarily remove certain noncitizens from the United States without a hearing before an immigration judge. Undocumented immigrants placed in expedited removal proceedings are entitled to access the asylum system if they express fear of persecution, torture, or of returning to their home country.

>Created in 1996 as part of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, the expedited removal statute applies to noncitizens who arrive at a port of entry and to some noncitizens who enter without having been admitted or paroled (those who “enter without inspection”) and who have not been continuously present in the United States for at least two years.

>>1410635
Reminder police once gaslit and browbeat a man into confessing he murdered his father after he'd reported father was reported missing.

His dad was actually still alive. He went to the airport to visit a family member for a day or two and forgot to tell his son he'd be leaving. The family later sued the city for almost a million in emotional damages.

>>1410640
i get you're not american, but even you must've heard of the constitution, right

>>1410640
>Undocumented immigrants placed in expedited removal proceedings are entitled to access the asylum system if they express fear of persecution, torture, or of returning to their home country.
And here's the problem you fucking retard.

>>1410642
Kek fuck off you retard
>>1410643
>Um-um everything you said is true, but umm there's this other thing
So I'm right.
Thanks.

how is this legal? not in a
>orange man bad reee
I think sending the nasty girls to btfo the trannies is fucking based, but fdr made some scam in the 1930s so they could illegally send the national guard overseas against the constitution by making them legally members of the army when under federal control.
Article I section 8 says the militia can only be used for suppressing insurrection, repelling invasion and enforcing the law. so national guardsmen are considered militia when under state/government control and army under federal/presidential control so they can be illegally deployed to yurop and the middle east

>>1410641
>key details
The kid (technically an adult) literally signed a document saying "I am an illegal please deport me" despite being reported as being totally illiterate.

Even after that shit happened, and he was lawfully detained, ICE still did their due diligence to make sure he wasn't deported wrongfully. This doesn't work in service to the whole oppressor-oppressed narrative that libshits have going for themselves.

>>1410644
you're a rightwing shill, we know

>>1410645
There are provisions in federal law that allow POTUS to suspend certain constitutional provisions if an emergency takes place.
For example, Trump could declare a national emergency and use that as an excuse to initiate martial law.
In 2020, when BLM was burning down buildings, Trump petitioned blue states to allow him to send in the national guard. They told him to fuck off. This time he isn't asking, he's using emergency powers to enforce the law himself, because he's literally obligated to do so under the US constitution.
I wish Trump was as much of a fascist that libshits think he is, but that's not what's happening.

>>1410648
>as much of a fascist that
i love how you always expose yourself, esl. it's endearing

>>1410646
>The kid (technically an adult) literally signed a document saying "I am an illegal please deport me" despite being reported as being totally illiterate.
you don't see the fucking problem with authorities making people sign things they don't understand to confess to crimes? The only reason this kid didn't get fucking deported was because his family noticed he was missing and submitted his birth certificate.

>>1410648
did he invoke the insurrection act? cause wasnt that the whole problem during the blm commie riots? he didnt invoke that so state governors would have had to use these articke I section 8 militia powers and the commie governors refused.
again, I think it's based. I'm just curious what he had to do to get around the very dubiously legal national guard law that only exists because woodrow wilson and fdr wanted to side step the constitution.

>>1410650
He didn't make him sign anything retard, the guy did it by himself when presented with the form.

>>1410653
have fun dying alone shill faggot, nobody takes you seriously

>>1410651
He invoked 10 U.S. Code § 12406. He federalized the national guard.

>>1410654
Shouldn't you be moderating /lgbt/ right now?

>>1410653
>Yeah I'm sure making the illiterate US Citizen sign something that says he can be deported is completely legitimate and purely his own fault
Enjoy the taste of that boot? You keep licking it like an ice pop.

>>1410643
They need to prove that they are in actual fear of persecution, torture or returning home. They have a legal duty to do that.

>>1410656
will you ever get a real job? i think i know the answer already

>>1410658
Yes, and in order to do that, they need to have a day in court.

All of a sudden liberals believe in state's rights and that the federal government isn't above all

>>1410543
Over 30 confirmed undercover FBI agents were at the capital riots

>>1410661
you're a confirmed faggot and all your posts can be disregarded

>>1410657
Let us take a beat and observe anon's dogshit opinion that following the law is bad, actually.

>>1410660
lol no
Immigration court doesn't work the way you think it does.

>>1410663
you know you're simping for a felon, right faggot

>>1410665
>anon cares about following the law suddenly
Faggot idiot.

shill anon confirmed agent of satan

>>1410661
Who are the "liberals" you're referring to? Can you name 5?

Shills are out in force for this one, god damn.

>>1410669
they're everywhere today, i think something blew up in russia

>>1410663
What the fuck is legal about forcing someone to sign paper surrendering their rights under duress? The guy didn't know what he was signing. They made him sign it anyways. He was stuck in custody for almost two weeks because of it.

>>1410523 (OP)
You do not get to bitch about protestors not following the law when you and your gestapo are breaking the law every day however you want.

>>1410671
>The guy didn't know what he was signing.
Then why did he sign it? How could he sign his name if he wasn't literate?
>They made him sign it anyways.
Nobody made him sign anything, lying retard.

>>1410675
why are you a faggot? why do you post if you know you'll be ridiculed for being a faggot

>>1410675
>Then why did he sign it?
This anon doesn't know what "under duress" means.
>How could he sign his name if he wasn't literate?
This anon doesn't know what "literate" means.

>>1410675
>Then why did he sign it?
Because they browbeat and tricked him him into it. Same as the guy who they made confess to a murder that never happened.
>How could he sign his name if he wasn't literate?
A signature doesn't require the ability to read retard.
>Nobody made him sign anything, lying retard.
Context seems to indicate otherwise, why the fuck do you think he was pleading that he was a citizen the whole time? They made him sign something he couldn't read.

>>1410678
>Because they browbeat and tricked him him into it.
How did they trick him?
Are you a dribbling retard that signs every form you're given?
>A signature doesn't require the ability to read retard.
This is the kind of person who tells you that illegals are being deported without due process. Absolute, unmitigated, unashamed retardation of the highest caliber.
Don't even bother responding to me, idiot.

>>1410679
>How did they trick him?
Most likely? Tell him "Ok, just sign this and this'll all be worked out". How was he supposed to know otherwise when he couldn't read it?

Again, police have convinced people to confess to murders that never happened, yet the idea of them convincing a guy who can't read a form says something it doesn't actually say is unfathomable?

>>1410679
you'll never be american

I know tensions are high here in America, but it's about time we all relax a moment and contemplate the fact that our president is taking an action that has broad support amongst the American public, and is fighting back against the radical progressive elements in California that are at odds with Americans best interests

Thank you, Mr. Donald Trump!

>>1410683
t. Baghdad bob

>>1410523 (OP)
So, the protests were actually dying down yesterday. The national guard actually deploying made them promptly reignite.

Good fucking job orange retard, this is why you don't escalate.

>>1410681
> How was he supposed to know otherwise when he couldn't read it?
It probably had something to do with the fact that he was a retarded single father at 19 y.o who couldn't read.
That aside: the entire purpose of a signature is to verify your fucking identity. You need to be literate to sign one. This isn't Looney Toons where you can simply put a check mark on a fucking box and that verifies your identity, they compare it with every other signature they have on record.
An alternative explanation is that he was an illegal immigrant who had stolen someone's identity.

>>1410685
>We were only rioting yesterday because of ice
>We are rioting today because our riot was so bad yesterday it caused the national guard to respond
These leftists always have something to riot about, don't they

>>1410686
>>1410687
how much does it pay to shill for the worst presidential administration in history?

>>1410686
>That aside: the entire purpose of a signature is to verify your fucking identity. You need to be literate to sign one. This isn't Looney Toons where you can simply put a check mark on a fucking box and that verifies your identity, they compare it with every other signature they have on record.
You can know how to write but not read. Especially in the case of a signature. In fact, you actually can write an x or put something like a fingerprint on a document and it'll still count. But even without that, a lot of illiterate people will still know how to write their own name even if they can't read because they'll have memorized the shape.

>>1410687
The president is currently violating the sovereignty of california by deploying national guard without the consent of the local government, going against their wishes directly even. Hell, the protests are now against THAT in addition to ICE overreach.

Aren't the right the ones who constantly bitch about "states rights" and "government overreach"? Where are they?

>>1410688
I don't like Trump or his administration I just support immigration law and dislike the leftists who lie about circumstances of enforcing it constantly

>>1410690
>The president is currently violating the sovereignty of california by deploying national guard without the consent of the local government
It's almost as if there was some sort of rule or law or regulation or something that lets him do this

>>1410691
That's hilarious when this administration is constantly violating immigration laws, making laws up on the fly with EOs, and ignoring judges lawful orders.

>>1410692
Invoking that to suppress a protest of only about 400 people which was dying down anyways, to the point Trump fucking celebrated it as a victory of the national guard even though they didn't even deploy yet? That's textbook abuse of power.

>>1410692
It's more like Trump doesn't care about laws, which is why people are rioting.

>>1410694
They're not dying down.

>>1410695
>They're not dying down.
Really? Trump seemed pretty convinced of it earlier today; you know, until people pointed out the National Guard hadn't even been deployed yet.

Which honestly raises a whole bunch of other questions; why did he think they were there even if they weren't deployed? Did he get all of his info from fucking Fox News even though he's literally commander in chief?

>>1410694
So you're telling me that: there was a riot happening, some people got deployed to stop the riot, and then rioters used that as an excuse to keep rioting the next day?

No body

>>1410593
What happened four years ago was considered a 'nothingburger' by certain things. Therefore what's happening now is a nothingburger.
Your opinions about J6 are really biting you in the ass now rightards. So much as one word of criticism about what's happening now, what those white rightards did four years ago is infinitely worse. So much as think otherwise, and rightard hypocrites don't have the right to have opinions

>>1410696
>until people pointed out the National Guard hadn't even been deployed yet.
Oh, so I guess the rioters couldn't have been rioting about the national guard then if they were never actually deployed.
That answers that question

>>1410695
>It's more like Trump doesn't care about laws, which is why people are rioting
They are literally rioting because he's enforcing immigration law, where have you been?

>>1410698
fascists are impossible to reason with, all you can do is allow them to create the conditions for their own downfall. i guess it's some sort of flaw in human nature

>>1410686
Can you seriously not comprehend someone not being literate but still being able to write their own name? You've never even seen that in a movie or something? Are you seriously this stupid?

>>1410698
>So much as one word of criticism about what's happening now, what those white rightards did four years ago is infinitely worse.
Dems were letting Antifa and BLM burn down America. The same people sending bricks to LA street corners were also funding bail bond orgs.
J6 was a response to that shit and the election shenanigans. Because even though you couldn't go outside to have a meal, and working class Americans lost their businesses, distancing restrictions were lifted for protests. It was only once the riots reached Capitol Hill that the blood drained from their faces.
Also, this shit is happening *after* the J6 propaganda. If you're going to simp for congresspeople but don't give a shit when illegals burn cars, then you're already skullfucked by deepstate propaganda.

>>1410700
Whatever you need to tell yourself to make blatantly violating the constitution seem normal is fine.

>>1410703
>You've never even seen that in a movie or something?
Confirmed retard.

>>1410700
No, he's not. He's ignoring court orders, not giving due process, and has his secret police going around kidnapping people.
Just because they're illegal immigrants and there's laws against that doesn't mean you can just do whatever the fuck you want with them. That's not how laws work.

>>1410700
He's violating immigration law by deporting legal migrants and ignoring due process for deportations.

>>1410704
no one cares, cultist faggot

>>1410704
>aNtIFa BuRneD DoWN AmEriCa!!!
Here we go.

>>1410699
Yes, because the earlier protests were in response to ICE. Now they're in response to the national guard being deployed against the will of the state and under a bullshit "emergency". Because shockingly people who are mad about one overreach will not be happy when you commit further overreach in response.

>>1410706
No, motherfucker, I'm trying to dumb this down to your level. Not being able to read or write except for your own name is such a basic bitch concept that even movies do it. How can you not understand this? Are you willfully ignorant or just regular ignorant?

>>1410710
>rules for thee but not for me
>lol what do you mean we did that I don't remember
You do realize that you're the reason why fascism is now a viable alternative to gay race communism, right?

>>1410713
Movies aren't real life faggot. Your inability to understand the difference marks you as completely incapable of grasping the nuance of this conversation.

>>1410714
I have no idea who indoctrinated you to think Antifa and BLM burned down America but I'm sure it's simultaneously the most hilarious and cringeworthy outlet on the internet.

>>1410715
Retard cannot comprehend the idea that someone unable to read cannot memorize a symbol.

>>1410715
>incapable of grasping the nuance of this conversation
Oh the fucking irony.

>>1410718
You need to be literate to write your name, retard. It's a prerequisite.
Kill yourself for being so stupid.

>>1410714
you do realize nobody will ever love you, right fascist faggot larping as an american

>>1410720
No you fucking don't you absolute fucking retard.
Hey, let's turn this around. You can ONLY read and write your name. That's it, no other words, just your name. Are you literate now?

>>1410720
You can memorize a symbol without the ability to read retard. To an illiterate person it's no different from drawing a picture. They cannot read it but they can recognize and memorize it.

>>1410689
> In fact, you actually can write an x or put something like a fingerprint on a document and it'll still count
No, you can't.
The entire purpose of a signature is to distinguish your identity from other people. It's not enough to simply understand how to write out the letters and mouth the vowels, federal agencies compare your signature with your past signatures to figure out who you really are.
You're either lying or retarded. I don't give a shit in either case, you're too stupid to comment on this topic.

>>1410720
He's right that immigrants who speak spanish only are given documents in english to sign. It's what Abbott and Desantis have been doing for years. This has been well documented.
https://apnews.com/article/immigration-north-america-us-news-ap-top-news-az-state-wire-e5eeb241115843eab5a8716d6f76a263

>>1410725
He still signed the document stating he was an illegal immigrant of his own volition. And the contravening argument wasn't "he didn't understand english" it was "he was illiterate", which is not the same thing.

This single threat has taught me that most of you aren't American, because if you were, you would know how American signatures actually work.

>>1410726
nice projection faggot

>>1410726
>He still signed the document stating he was an illegal immigrant of his own volition. And the contravening argument wasn't "he didn't understand english" it was "he was illiterate", which is not the same thing.
What part of "under duress" do you not understand? Do you really think he knew full well what he was signing and did it anyway despite being a US citizen and telling them that repeatedly? You think he did it for kicks?

>>1410724
>No, you can't.
Yes you can. It depends on context but you could very well still use an x or thumbprint for a signature in some contexts. It also is entirely possible know how to write your name without knowing how to read purely from people telling you how to do so; not all signatures have to be in cursive you fucking retard.
>https://www.notarypublicstamps.com/members/notary-faqs/illiterate-signers#

>>1410729
nobody is impressed that you can google, faggot. you still lost the argument

>>1410730
But you're wrong.

>>1410733
nah

>>1410704
What rightards did on 6th January 2021.
Until all those like you condemn what those terrorists did, your opinions are not only invalid, they are eternally wrong. Rightard hypocrites don't have the right to have opinions.

>>1410740
>they
thanks for finally admitting you aren't american

>>1410742
you seem pretty obsessed with it, faggot. are you just a pussy who decided not to go? (i already know you're not american)

>>1410724
>No, you can't
Bro you can sign your name however the fuck you want to sign it, you retard.
There's no law dictating the methodology or technique for signing ones name

>>1410719
the shills seem intent on tunnel visioning the nuances since they have no real arguments

>>1410746
nigga stop lying

>>1410745
Trump says he "quelled the insurection". They believe him. That settles it.

>>1410531
And of course I never got a reply back. Let me try again:

Oh so states can harbor illegals? Places like California can protect criminals (give them "sanctuary") from the federal government?

>>1410749
>Places like California can protect criminals (give them "sanctuary") from the federal government?
They can try lol

>>1410750
stop talking to yourself faggot

>>1410749
>>1410750
>ICE: We think there are illeguls working at Home Depot parking lot, go arrest them all and hold them indefinately until we get them
>LAPD: lmao no, come get them yourself
>MAGA: SANCTUARY YOUR GIVING THEM SANCTUARY YOUR EVUL
brainrotted shills

>>1410751
You are schizophrenic

>>1410753
That's not what a sanctuary city is, foreigner. Please read up on stuff before you participate in an American discussion

>>1410753
https://cd4.lacity.gov/press-releases/city-council-votes-to-establish-los-angeles-as-a-sanctuary-city/

>>1410753
Your retardation aside, how does this 'shit all over states' rights'? How is Trump sending ICE to detain illegals a violation of states' rights?

>>1410757
States have a right to allow migrants into their borders.

>>1410740
those right now are just peacefully protesting. they are more than based and can never do anything wrong. ever.
disagree and as the j6ers proved all white rightards are terrorists, and will never be 'based' because they debased humanity on that day.
your own words four years ago are biting you in the ass now. if the j6ers 'did nothing wrong' then those now can never do anything wrong. if those today are 'criminals' then j6 proves that all white rightards are terrorists. no exceptions. that's how it works, you see. can't have it both ways or your hypocrisy bites you in the ass.

>>1410758
Oh? I wasn't aware states could override federal government and take in illegals.... Y'know it's funny, I remember Texas squaring off with Biden's government not long ago because they DIDN'T want to take in illegals... It's funny how it's not a states' rights issue when a state wants to keep illegals out but it's a violation of the state if they want to bring illegals in, or if the federal government wants to remove illegals. Very interesting.

>>1410760
stop lying faggot

>Flies the flag of a country they fled from to protest people getting sent back to said country
make it make sense

>>1410762
i know you're not american, but all americans aren't from there unless they're nonwhites

>>1410760
The USA is a union of independent states, each with their own unique culture and population. What is good for California doesn't need to be good for Texas or the federal government.

>>1410763
You don't see people flying fucking french, british or irish flags when they protest elsewhere, do you? Fuck off with this fake equivalence shit.

>>1410766
>fake equivalence
lmao. you're extremely esl and you should tell your handlers to invest in a better translator app

>>1410762
They're mexicans protesting mexicans getting black bagged by facists who hate mexicans. Why the mexican flags? Man, anon, I really couldn't tell you.

>>1410767
>Shit i can't retort
>Oh i know better break out the "i win" words
Sub 80iq behavior from a doomed sub 50% white country.

>>1410769
>shit i made an obvious faux pas
>better still pretend i'm american
you're still not american

>>1410765
>What is good for California doesn't need to be good for Texas or the federal government.
And what a coincidence that what's "good" for California is a states' rights issue when going against the feds, but it's not a states' rights issue when Texas does it.

>>1410770
Thank god i'm not. I never claimed to be, that's all you.

>>1410772
you're fucking pathetic. the going gets tough and you pussy out immediately, eh

>>1410769
>Sub 80iq behavior from a doomed sub 50% white country
Russia?

>>1410775
esl

>>1410777
congratulations, you're 100% wrong

>>1410778
They chant 'Viva la raza' on our soil. What is your excuse for that?

>>1410781
>existing
It literally means 'long live the race'. They are celebrating the capture of southern California.

>>1410779
what's my excuse for nonwhites existing? i am one (a white) unlike you and it's fine

>>1410782
meds

>what's my excuse for nonwhites existing? i am one unlike you and it's fine
>what's my excuse for nonwhites existing? i am one (a white) unlike you and it's fine
Great distinction faggot, I totally believe you

>>1410785
of course you do, i can spell and you can't

>>1410523 (OP)
its time to re think the democrats idiotic voter import excuse of "diversity is our strength"

>>1410787
esl

How is this a riot? I keep seeing clips of what's going on and it's all just people standing around. Like, there's a broken window here and there, there's that one clip of a burning car, but most of it's peaceful.
This is just some hyperbolic bullshit again, isn't it?

>>1410551
Out in about?

>>1410789
If there's no riot then there's nothing to worry about, the national guard are doing their job
The riot was yesterday

>>1410649
>as much of a fascist that
>i love how you always expose yourself, esl. it's endearing
What was wrong with this phrase?

>>1410789
>there's that one clip of a burning car, but most of it's peaceful.
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/0jz0a2hl.jpg

>>1410687
He could carpet bomb that shit stain and I wouldn't care.

>>1410792
He's a retard. He literally does nothing but call people ESL all day when he's all out of talking points from his think tank

>>1410795
What was grammatically incorrect with the sentence though?

>>1410787
Dems drank the gatorade forever ago by thinking that they needed to grab every single person who wasn't White, protestant and lost brain cells by breathing. Gimmiedats and fixing up the horseshit of dumbasses like Bush and Reagan won them shit, literally all they had to do was stop the gerontocracy and we'd have a much different political climate. But no, they all are a fucking cabal and decided that they'd rather fuck around with Crooked Hillary, Slow Biden, and Kothrapali Harris and got us this royal moron.

News flash, ninety percent of people on the left stopped caring about queers after they were allowed to marry. Everything else just looks like the Dems are the party of the queers, and we can barely stand their noisy asses.

>>1410793
Hyperbolic bullshit like that, exactly. Taking a few incidents and acting like ALL the protests are riots.

>>1410794
We know, you stupid fascist cunt.

>>1410792
That anon has a long history of accusing other anons of not being American. He's been doing it for years. Sometimes he likes to gaslight. That's all.

>>1410791
>there's nothing to worry about, the national guard are doing their job
Bullshit. Trump's getting his police state and excuse to declare martial law, exactly how he wanted. That's plenty to worry about.

>>1410558
>>1410569
>>1410578
Everything is going on as planned. The elites want depopulation no matter how. The only thing missing is a detonator, some cop getting killed and troops will go inside colleges and universities to "neutralize terrorism". Anyone protesting will be considered enemy of the state and killed. That is what they want, a civil war that will kill 90% of the US population.

>>1410569
It's always like this. The government or the cops or whatever does something terrible, people protest and/or riot about it, and they act like they're just doing it for no reason.

>>1410797
Good post

>>1410523 (OP)
Why don't they have this sort of energy against the cartels in their own countries?

>>1410807
This is their country.

>>1410808
That they sold to us.

>>1410809
Cute, but no.

>>1410807
I think it's funny how many retards in this thread think it's only migrants against this, and not the people watching their neighbors and coworkers get ambushed and disappeared by unmarked, unidentifiable tactical squads.

>>1410811
That's a natural fear to have when you're living inside our country illegally.

>>1410813
It's amazing how often you freaks just don't read the post you're responding to.

>>1410815
It's amazing that you don't know (or just don't care) that there is a population of 1.8 illegals living in California alone.
If you had ever been to Los Angeles, you would see billboards in spanish. Why? Because those illegals and their "neighbors" share a contiguous occupation of a American state. And that occupation is so wide-spread that it has begun to affect the most commonly spoken languages of the region.

>>1410816
>I don't like brown people
We knew that already. You don't have to keep telling us.

If Republicunts really wanted to get rid of immigrants, they'd go after the people hiring them.
Its never happened because they need illegal labor.

>>1410816
>If you had ever been to Los Angeles, you would see billboards in spanish. Why?
Because there's a lot of spanish speakers in LA.
You're trying to imply that everyone who speaks spanish in LA is one of those 1.8 million illegals. Which is convenient for me, because that racist-ass assertion is exactly why it's not just migrants who are protesting this. Because they all know you fucking fascists freaks don't actually care about illegal immigration, it's just an excuse to go after hispanic people, undocumented or not.

>>1410816
I'M OUTRAGED!!1 THEY OUGHT TO APOLOGIZE!111

Not surprisingly the Anons saying Trump quelled the insurrection and it was over last night were wrong (again).
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/thousands-fill-the-streets-block-freeway-in-los-angeles-after-trump-deploys-national-guard

>>1410817
>>1410819
mexico is a shithole because mexicans are shit, cartel crime is rife because mexicans alow it, it's in their blood. the whitest places in the world are the least violent and crime riden because of white genes.

>>1410819
Supporting sedition to fight racism isn't the own you think it is. In fact, it's liable to get you put on a Palantir watch list, because you're sitting squarely in the same demographic of Americans who think supporting Hamas is good.
>don't actually care about illegal immigration
Your mongoloid pets are chanting "Muerte a la Gringo" in the streets of los angeles as we speak. So yes, I do care.
Congratulations on picking the wrong side idiot. The harshest punishments are always reserved for traitors.

>>1410822
>>1410823
I love how you freaks just act openly racist and in support of blatantly fascist shit and then act like you have any point to make.

>>1410825
being called fascist just means you dont want another culture to supplant your own. you see those mexicans waving their flags in united states streets? i feel like that about my own culture and dont want those people here voting or deciding what MY country should do

>>1410827
>i feel like that about my own culture and dont want those people here voting or deciding what MY country should do
Yeah, because you're racist.

>>1410819
>racist-ass
>migrants
>fucking fascists
Sure is reddit in here.

>>1410828
it's race and culture, culture follows the river of our genes. whites have created cultures and countries other races look at with envy over their borders. then they force themselves into our countries and continue practicing their shitty subhuman cultures they left.
did you know over half of all marriages in pakistan are between cousins?

>>1410829
>only reddit calls racists racist and fascists fascists
Bite me, faggot.

>>1410830
>>1410825

>>1410831
what exactly is being called racist ment to make me do?
make me stop caring about my culture?

>>1410832
I already answered that, retard.

>>1410831
>Durrrrrrr ur against illegal immigration ur a fascist durrrrr

>>1410833
no you havent, you just call me racist, wich doesnt mean anything to me. i love my race and culture and want us to be in total controll of our borders and laws

>>1410825
The alternative is supporting communists and illegal immigrants who literally chant that they want us to be killed. As of writing currently, they are now planning to occupy LAX and halting international travel from Los Angeles.
Trump wasn't elected spontaneously or because he tricked us. It's because you retards ruined America with this exact kind of shit. Doubling down on authoritarianism is the only path left to us.

>>1410834
>Durrrrrrr ur supporting fascist shit ur a fascist durrrrr
Fixed.

>>1410835
>>1410825

>>1410836
>noooo you don't understand we HAVE to become fascist! because commies!!
Keep on playing the hits, you fucking fascist freak.

>>1410837
>Keep on playing the hits, you fucking fascist freak.
I just watched a 'protestor' get run over by a horse. I'm having a pretty good time.

>>1410775
>hang the like confederates
the white rightists hanged like confederates because j6 proves they're all terrorists, sure.
illiterates too, because they can't spell words such as "them". disagree and you're a hypocrite.
>>1410780
it is your fault you can't spell, thus we can read and point out your illiteracy.
>low effort troll posts. you admit you intentionally try to derail threads with insults
>>1410775
>retardo
>faggots
>gay
it's not just j6ers and their enablers who are hypocrites.

>>1410840
WTF is j6, queer?

>>1410837
>>Durrrrrrr ur supporting fascist shit ur a fascist durrrrr
>Fixed.
>DUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE FOR NAZIS DURRRRRRRRRRRR

>low effort troll posts. you admit you intentionally try to derail threads with insults
>>1410843
>queer
>WTF is j6
>>1410775
>hang the like confederates
hi esl that knows nothing

>>1410844
>DUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRR IMMIGRATION LAWS ARE FOR NAZIS DURRRRRRRRRRRR
>a tyrannical regime that didn't want those who weren't exactly like them in not only their own country but from the countries they illegally entered
>the head of that tyrannical regime was an illegal immigrant from Austria
>that regime's head removed himself from not only the country he'd illegally entered but from the planet he should never have been born on in the first place
It was fixed for you 80 years ago

>nearing the end of WW1
>jews start a communist revolution, overthrow the government and force a surrender
>hate communism, travel across the US to try to convince rabbis to renounce communism, none of them do
>eventually try to remove the communists but the press says you're antisemitic for doing so
>rise to power, literally try to pay them to leave, they refuse
Wow I really guess history really does rhyme huh

>>1410848
>justifying antisemitism
Like pottery.
That was tried up to the middle of last century. Fortunately the Final Solution to the Wrongthink Problem just over 80 years ago solved that. Trump & the GOP are prosemitic today. They don't like wrongthinkers.

>>1410523 (OP)
>Insurrection
And yet you'd be the first to call Jan 6 a little protest, you fucking bootlicker.

>>1410815
Well, they ARE Americans. Illiteracy is pretty standard-issue for them these days.

>>1410849
>antisemitism
Basic history.
They tried disenfranchising them, paying them to leave, deportations, and finally decided to put them into camps.
Hitler wasn't even antisemitic in the beginning. He just hated communists. Funny how nobody talks about that part of history in public schools.

>>1410850
>you'd be the first to call Jan 6 a little protest
Thus >>1410843
>WTF is j6
Claiming ignorance or admit to being a supporter of those insurrectionists on 6th January 2021.
Rightards don't like being called out on that, so they claim they don't know what you mean by 'j6' but they do obviously. But that's just rightards admitting they don't know anything, thus proving they're inferior to everyone else. How that bites them on their own ass, just as refusing to condemn those on 6th January 2021 yet think they have the right to have opinions about others protesting in the future has bitten them on the ass.

>>1410846
You didn't answer the question, retard.

>>1410847
Nice shitty WW2 reference. Now can you point to the part where Jews were illegally smuggling themselves and their families into Germany in the 1930s and demanding to stay there?

>>1410854
>Basic
Sums up Anti-Semites perfectly.
Anti-Semites = Basic Subhumans

>and >>1410858 can't read the post above hers
>retard
Thanks for admitting you are, >>1410858

>>1410859
>can you point
on the doll where the Jews touched you personally?

>>1410862
Yeah that's what I thought. Get called out for your dogshit references and ad hom your way out of it. Also I find it hilarious that the party that hates Israel so much still wants to compare their treatment in old-school Germany to how the US treats illegal immigrants - despite a million flaws in that analogy.

>>1410863
>can't point out on the doll where the Jews touched him personally. If he said 'They didn't and never will' he wouldn't have the right to be an Anti-Semite other than being an edgy teenager and/or /pol/tard
>others would say 'His mind. They touched him in his mind. And he didn't like it one little bit'
Yeah, that's what I thought. But then, Anti-Semites don't have the ability to think, thus they're Anti-Semites
Thus more than infinite flaws in their opinions.

>>1410864
>I'm a dickhead who thinks anyone in favor of kicking out illegal immigrants is a nazi and a /pol/tard

>>1410863
>ad hom
>>1410865
>I'm a dickhead
Yeah, that's what I thought. Get called out for your dogshit opinions and ad hom your way out of it.

>>1410866
Keep crying how racist everyone is for enforcing borders. Further ironic how you call everyone an anti-semite (despite likely being a Hamas supporter) when Israel has even harsher border control than the US does... Are they nazis too? That would be quite the paradox.

>>1410867
>Keep crying
I'm not the one concerned about being called out on what you're screaming about.
>Keep crying
Keep that up and you'll make IMAX obsolete.

>Trump quells insurrection in LA
causes*

I don't recall anyone rioting before his goons showed up to go after day laborers instead of fighting actual crime that impacts you and me

If your idea of fighting crime involves causing riots, you shouldn't be in government.

>>1410868
>can't answer any questions
I accept your concession.

>>1410869
>NOOO YOU CAN'T ARREST CRIMINALS THAT I LIKE
Doesn't work that way.

>>1410871
It literally does since I don't see ICE accomplishing jack shit at the moment. They can mask up all they want, it won't stop migrants from seeing them coming.

By the way, nice counterargument. Seriously, who in their right god damn mind would put up with the trouble ICE brings? The entire agency needs to be dismantled. They do far more damage than they prevent. They're a waste of tax dollars and a stain on this country.

>>1410870
>knows the answer to his own question
You conceded your own so-called 'argument' when you started having wrong opinions.

>>1410872
>Seriously, who in their right god damn mind would put up with the trouble ICE brings?
Well Jackass let me refer you to this anon here >>1410753
Specifically this part
>LAPD: lmao no, come get them yourself
So maybe if you fucking subhuman democrats weren't hiding and sheltering illegals - and then crying MUH STATE RIGHTS when they get taken away - then maybe ICE wouldn't need to show up and "cause" a riot (lol no accountability for your actions ever, dirty leftists).

But then we also wouldn't have faggots like this cocksucker >>1410868 crying MUH SCHINDLER'S LIST 2.0 when ICE shows up to pull Mexicans out of your attic.

>>1410873
>still can't answer any questions
Keep trying until you figure it out.

>>1410863
>Get called out
>and ad hom your way out of it
>>1410874
>Jackass
>faggots
>>1410874
>never had an 'argument' in the first place
>ad hom your way out of it
I accept your concession.

>>1410875
Keep trying to figure out why normal sane humans refuse to allow your wrong opinions to exist in their superior minds.

>>1410874
>then maybe ICE wouldn't need to show up
The existence of illegals doing day labor does not necessitate ICE showing up. Our immigration laws are dumb as shit and we go by just fine without them for the first century we had a country.

If ICE can't find someone actually harming the community to arrest (other than them), they should all be fucking fired and their funds put towards something more useful, like building housing for the homeless. Would also keep those day laborers they're so worried about busy.

>>1410876
>never had an 'argument' in the first place
I'll spell out my argument as simple as I can: You, and every retarded faggot on the left, need to shut the fuck up with the Nazi Germany comparisons to deporting illegals in the US. It's not even apples and oranges at this point, it's apples and a god damn elephant. For one example, Jews weren't smuggling themselves repeatedly into Nazi Germany.

Now refute the argument bitch.

>>1410878
>The existence of illegals doing day labor does not necessitate ICE showing up.
... Are you retarded? It literally fucking does. From their website:
>Mission: Protect America through criminal investigations and enforcing immigration laws to preserve national security and public safety.

>Our immigration laws are dumb as shit
Our immigration laws aren't a fraction as bad as other western nation. You mean to tell me it's easier to smuggle yourself into Israel? Switzerland? Japan? Get the fuck out.

>If ICE can't find someone actually harming the community to arrest (other than them)
Their job is to enforce our immigration laws. Those illegals (btw props to you for not saying "migrant" like 99% of the faggots here) are not supposed to be here at all. They are working as intended.

Don't like it? Too fucking bad! You should've thought about that before your boy Biden prevented Texas from enforcing their own border - but of course that time wasn't a states' rights issue according to everyone here.

>>1410880
>Mission: Protect America
Mission fucking failed. They started a riot trying to arrest day laborers.

Defund em and fire em all.

>>1410881
>They started a riot trying to arrest day laborers.
>They started a riot
Again, no fucking accountability for your side. I love it. Anytime, ANY FUCKING TIME a riot starts in America it's never YOUR fault even though YOU FUCKING SUBHUMANS ARE THE ONES RIOTING.

No god damn responsibility whatsofuckingever from the left. They can chuck molotov cocktails into a minority-owned business and destroy an entire family - and with a straight face still blame it on police.

>>1410882
>thinks "the left" is rioting
I thought you guys said hispanic people voted for republicans.

>>1410883
>Los Angeles is a Republican stronghold
Oh wow another "it was actually boogaloo that did it" argument. That never gets old. I just love how you keep reaffirming what I pointed out, that you cunts can't ever take responsibility for your own actions.

>>1410884
I'm only surprised you didn't blame Antifa this time, or claim BLM burned down half the country again.

>>1410879
>>1410863
>Get called out
>and ad hom your way out of it
>>1410874
>Jackass
>faggots
>>1410874
>never had an 'argument' in the first place
>ad hom your way out of it
>>1410879
>faggot
>bitch
>ad hom your way out of it
You never had an 'argument to refute in the first place, but if you need a refutation, here's the only one needed: your wrong opinions that fuels your mindset.
Normal sane humans will never allow your wrong opinions to exist in their far superior minds.

>>1410882
>Again, no fucking accountability for your side
My side was enjoying a riot free city until ICE showed up. It's not like these are protesters that got bussed in from somewhere. The alien element here that caused this shit is ICE. You try taking some responsibility and fuck off.

Ultimately it comes down to this, if you heard ICE was going to be conducting operations in your city tomorrow, would you feel safer or endangered?

We all know the answer. The problem is ICE.

>>1410884
>you cunts can't ever take responsibility for your own actions.
If a MAGA retard doesn't project at least once an hour, he dies. It's why they don't sleep.

>>1410887
ICE wouldn't need to show up if you did your fucking job and deported illegals in the first place instead of declaring yourselves a sanctuary city. Going back to the beginning, you fuckers think the state can just take in criminals and the feds can't do anything about it because muh states rights. By your same fucking logic I should be able to drive into California, kill as many of you as I can (in a minecraft server) and then drive back to Arizona and not be prosecuted for it because "hey my state okayed it."

No, you don't get to pick and choose what is a crime or not. And if you're going to harbor illegals in your dogshit city, don't complain when the feds show up to do your job for you.

>Ultimately it comes down to this, if you heard ICE was going to be conducting operations in your city tomorrow, would you feel safer or endangered?
Safer. I don't live amongst retards who think they can riot anytime police enforce the law (for the most part.. lot of transplants in Phoenix).

>>1410568
> take things out of context
This is your brain rotting.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-06-08/what-actually-happened-at-the-paramount-home-depot
It began as another Saturday morning at the Home Depot in Paramount, a working class, predominantly Latino suburb south of downtown Los Angeles.

Typically, the store that is nestled along the Los Angeles River bed would be filled with weekend warriors tackling home improvements, workers collecting supplies and immigrants in search of work.

But that morning, border patrol agents were spotted across the street from the Home Depot, gathering around 9 a.m. Word quickly spread on social media. Passersby honked their horns. Soon, protesters arrived. Home Depot eventually closed.

The clashes between authorities and protesters lasted for hours in both Paramount and nearby Compton, though it was far from widespread. The chaos covered the area directly around the Alondra Boulevard store, but it was enough to provide for dramatic TV video.

And it was a major trigger for the Trump administration to send 2,000 National Guard troops to L.A. to deal with disturbances and assist in immigration actions.

So exactly what happened in Paramount?

Two Times reporters spent much of the day and night there Saturday. Here is what they saw.

A hint of trouble

Before the crowds arrived, Assemblymember José Luis Solache Jr., who represents the Paramount area that includes the Home Depot, was driving on the freeway on the way to a community event in neighboring Lakewood when he spotted a caravan of U.S. Customs and Border Protection vehicles exiting Alondra Boulevard. The street runs through the heart of the working class, largely immigrant Latino community of Paramount.

He turned around, thinking they may be executing an immigration raid in his district and he tracked them down to an office park, the Paramount Business Center, across the street from Home Depot. Federal law enforcement has a facility in Paramount.

Agents were still arriving there and the black gate they would later guard with volleys of tear gas and flash-bang grenades was open.

Unclear why they were there, he decided to record a post for Instagram.

“I saw a border agent get off the freeway here off of Alondra. I was like, No, it can’t be happening,” he said.

It was around 9 a.m.

“This is horrible,” he said on one of the posts. “I am literally shaking.”

“I don’t know what they’re doing inside. But, I mean, why were they in Paramount?,” he told his followers.

Spreading across social media

Word quickly spread on social media.

Passersby honked their horns. Soon, protesters arrived.

“This is the situation,” Solache, the Assemblymember, said, turning the camera to show dozens of uniformed Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents outside the black gates, as people held up cameras to the scene and mariachi music blared.

“The community is coming out strong to show that they are not welcome in our community,” said Solache, whose parents immigrated to the U.S. from Guanajuato, Mexico. “No en mi distrito. Not in my district. Vámonos pa’ fuera (let’s go, get out of here).”

Outrage had been growing in Los Angeles and its Latino immigrant community after a week of stepped up enforcement actions.

The day before, federal officials raided a retail and distribution warehouse in the Fashion District downtown, a business district fueled by immigrants, and arrested a top union official. Leading up to the workplace raid, federal agents arrested immigrants as they came to scheduled check-ins or made courthouse appearances up and down the state, tearing apart families. One father was arrested in front of his 8-year old-son. Parent groups raised alarms after a Torrance elementary student and his father were set for deportation. For many, talk about deporting violent criminals didn’t ring true. “This whole rhetoric of coming after hardworking families is what we are all concerned about,” Solache said. “When you come to do raids at businesses, that is where the anger comes from.”

He said he and many others came out to observe and send a message that immigration enforcement wasn’t welcome in their community.
Lines drawn

The scene began to turn darker as agents formed a line and brought out rifles that shot out tear gas and pushed the crowds back.

The protests arrived as word spread on social media of a raid at Home Depot or at a meatpacking place. There was never a raid at Home Depot but dozens of Border Patrol agents and other federal agencies were inside a gated industrial office park, where an initial crowd had gathered.

Most protesters were filming. There were social workers, neighbors and advocates.

But near the gates, any time federal agents saw that protesters threw anything toward them or neared the police line, they shot out tear gas or flash-bang rounds. There were about 100 people there. As the crowd grew, sheriff‘s deputies were deployed to block off a perimeter on the east and west, near the 710 Freeway. Protesters shouted at deputies, asking why they were helping.

The crowds began to form, as hundreds of rounds were shot in the late morning near the office park.

Around noon, tensions grew as the agents attempted to clear the way for border patrol and other unmarked vehicles to leave the business park. They fired tear gas and flash-bang grenades at demonstrators standing on Alondra Boulevard. When a caravan of federal vehicles departed from the gates, protesters followed them, throwing rocks and other objects.

Chaos ensues

Shortly after they left, one protester brought out a trash bag and set it ablaze. A couple of others pushed a cart with concrete blocks from Home Depot and they lined the road to block vehicles. One man smashed the block and spread the broken pieces on the road. Farther west along Alondra Boulevard, a crowd was gathering behind a perimeter set up by the sheriff’s deputies near the 710 Freeway.

Then a U.S. Marshall bus pulled up to Alondra from the freeway. The crowd surrounded the bus trying to push it back, kicking at it until tear gas was shot.

The standoff continued into the afternoon with protesters recording a line of sheriff‘s deputies equipped with shields and weapons at the intersection of Alondra Boulevard and Hunsaker Avenue, on the east perimeter and next to Manuel Dominguez High School.

The crowd chanted, “ICE go home” and “no justice, no peace.” Some people yelled at the deputies, questioning why they were out in force. At some point, deputies began shooting flash-bang grenades at the crowd, forcing them to retreat. People became angered, cursing at deputies. At least one man was seen yelling at the deputies while recording them: “What the hell are you doing?! Nobody’s hurting you, nobody’s doing anything but making noise, are you intimidated by f— noise?!”

One woman among the protest group appeared to be bleeding, and another man was treated for injuries. At least one person walked around with his shirt off, his back bruised from foam projectiles that had struck him. In the distance, near the business park, demonstrators were setting off fireworks and a billow of black smoke could be seen.

Clashes continue into the night

Despite the use of tear gas and so-called less-lethal projectiles, people returned to the intersection of Alondra Boulevard and Hunsaker Avenue, screaming at deputies, mocking them at times.

Around 4 p.m., the confrontation near a Home Depot was declared an unlawful assembly, and officials warned protesters in Spanish and English to leave the area.

By 7 p.m., about 100 protesters had gathered on the other side of the 710 Freeway near Atlantic Avenue and Alondra Boulevard, where some were lobbing rocks and bottles at L.A. County sheriff’s deputies. They set at least three fires in the area including a car that burned in the middle of the intersection.

At some point, the deputies retreated back to the bottom of a bridge that runs over the 710 Freeway and the Los Angeles River. Throughout the night deputies and demonstrators engaged with each other, with demonstrators launching fireworks that exploded near the line of deputies and police vehicles. They used cars to drive toward the deputies in an attempt to scare them, prompting the deputies to fire rubber bullets, tear gas and flash-bang grenades at the vehicles.

A sheriff’s helicopter circled above throughout the evening, warning people they would be found and arrested and to leave the area after an unlawful assembly was declared, but the demonstrators continued, chanting and waving flags while some in the crowd continued to throw things at the deputies.

It was nearing 9:30 p.m. when the line of deputies and vehicles began moving toward the crowd, forcing them to flee back to Atlantic Avenue and Alondra Boulevard.

There deputies continued to fire tear gas and flash-bang grenades, sometimes at the direction of a gas station where protesters were standing. By midnight, demonstrators began to leave, ending a night of conflict between local and federal law enforcement officials and residents of Paramount.

Federal authorities said some arrests had been made by agents. At least one video showed a woman being tackled to the ground earlier and being carried away. Other videos show two other people also being carried away by federal agents.

“Multiple arrests have already been made for obstructing our operations,” FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino said on X. “More are coming. We are pouring through the videos for more perpetrators. You bring chaos, and we’ll bring handcuffs.”
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>>1410892
>Califaggots see ICE and go into a murderous rage, throwing shit and rioting
>It's ICE's fault!!!
Imagine if there were a bunch of rioting skinheads in Nowhere, Montana, burning cars and throwing shit at police because the FBI showed up to arrest some klansmen that missed a court date.

Who here would honestly be saying "Oh the FBI started this riot. We need to defund them!"

>>1410899
If that happened you would be crying about Ruby Ridge and Waco nonstop. But lucky for everyone there aren't enough skinheads in America for your scenario to be real.

>>1410890
Being an illegal alien is a misdemeanor offense. What ICE is doing is like rounding people up for having traffic tickets. They're picking up random poor brown people without cause just to catch a few illegal aliens (to meet Trump's quotas). And you're surprised Americans are protesting and rioting over it?
>>1410891
Found the kneejerking, rotten-brained nationalist.

>>1410899
It's almost like ICE is black bagging people off the street and disappearing them to overseas prison camps. It's almost like they're raiding fucking elementary schools. It's almost like their the fucking gestapo.
Weird.

>>1410900
>If that happened you would be crying about Ruby Ridge and Waco nonstop.
Yeah let me know when ICE starts shooting women and children. Then you might have a point.

>>1410902
>Being an illegal alien is a misdemeanor offense.
Yeah and what's the penalty again? Oh yeah, deportation. I fucking WISH Trump would start charging them fines like he said he would for the cost to round them up.
>What ICE is doing is like rounding people up for having traffic tickets.
You know what happens when you don't pay your traffic ticket for several years? Jail time.
>They're picking up random poor brown people without cause
Oh - my - God - shut - the - fuck - up! I can hear the sad violin music playing just reading your whoreshit. "Those sad poor innocent sweet angelic brown people that never did anything wrong!!! - other than show contempt for our legal system by breaking in."
>And you're surprised Americans are protesting and rioting over it?
Because blue state retards never riot over dumb shit, like the police doing their job.

>>1410904
>It's almost like ICE is black bagging people off the street and disappearing them to overseas prison camps.
Ugh! Stop it. I can't take anymore of this exaggerated bleeding heart liberal shit. Next you'll be telling me how the innocent children are working 20 hours in the freezing cold of Auschwitz 2.0. God there's just so many WW2 references it feels like the History channel.

>>1410906
The most hilarious thing is you seriously expect other people to believe protesting government intrusions is a leftist position. To coin a phrase, where do you people get this shit from?

>>1410906
>exaggerated
That is literally what's happening. This is objective reality.

>>1410907
>To coin a phrase, where do you people get this shit from?
From the same person using words like "gestapo", "concentration camps", "fascist", etc. Again, I'd love to know where you people get this shit from. Especially since I've already explained how retarded comparing actual Nazi Germany to modern day USA is.

>>1410909
The Constitution, you know, that thing Trump thinks he can rewrite on a whim?

>>1410908
Yes tell me more how ICE is literally the Gestapo.

>>1410910
I must've missed the part in the constitution that said we can't enforce our own borders and kick out people who enter illegally.

>>1410911
>>1410905
>>1410909
>>1410911
Shouldn't you be desperately trying to suspend Habeas Corpus instead of shitposting, Mr. Miller?

>>1410890
>ICE wouldn't need to show up
Bitch, nobody needs day laborers arrested or riots. Fuck off.

>>1410911
>Yes tell me more how ICE is literally the Gestapo.
>Literal secret police engaging in literal rendition

>>1410912
You definitely missed the part where every single human inside the country legal or illegal is entitled to a day in court.

>>1410523 (OP)
Man that headline didn't age well

>>1410915
>Bitch, nobody needs day laborers arrested or riots. Fuck off.
Bitch you're the one rioting because police are doing what they're supposed to. You fuck off.

>>1410916
>sending people back where they came from is rendition

>>1410917
>You definitely missed the part where every single human inside the country legal or illegal is entitled to a day in court.
Entitled to due process. Not necessarily a day in court, otherwise you'd have to give cases to people deported as far back as when Obama was in office.

I mean if you really want to pay for that...

>>1410919
> otherwise you'd have to give cases to people deported as far back as when Obama was in office.
Nobody here buys your heritage.org talking points. Try another board/site.

>>1410920
>heritage.org
lol
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-deportations-court/
>During the administration of U.S. President Barack Obama, immigration authorities deported more than 3 million people, 75% to 83% of whom did not see a judge or have the opportunity to plead their case.

>>1410919
>police
ICE aren't police even if they like to falsely slap that shit on their gear when they aren't rocking masks and plain clothes.

>>1410922
I'm not going to play these semantic games with you. Whatever they are, they are a function of the government. They're not causing you to riot like a bunch of retards. YOU are responsible for the shit you throw in the streets, the cars you set on fire, the stores you loot, etc.

>>1410921
Gee I wonder what you're leaving out on purpose
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-us-deported-more-130000074.html
>In short, according to Department of Homeland Security (DHS) data from fiscal years 2009 to 2016, more than 3 million individuals were formally removed during the Obama administration. Including returns, cases in which noncitizens left the U.S. voluntarily or after withdrawing their application for admission without undergoing formal removal proceedings, the total number of departures exceeded 5 million.
Oh they left voluntarily without constant ICE raids. Nice try, Heritage.org shill.

>>1410924
>Most were removed through expedited processes at the border—no court hearing, no trial.

>>1410923
>The day before, federal officials raided a retail and distribution warehouse in the Fashion District downtown, a business district fueled by immigrants, and arrested a top union official. Leading up to the workplace raid, federal agents arrested immigrants as they came to scheduled check-ins or made courthouse appearances up and down the state, tearing apart families. One father was arrested in front of his 8-year old-son. Parent groups raised alarms after a Torrance elementary student and his father were set for deportation. For many, talk about deporting violent criminals didn’t ring true. “This whole rhetoric of coming after hardworking families is what we are all concerned about,” Solache said. “When you come to do raids at businesses, that is where the anger comes from.”
And you seriously wonder why people are protesting this.

>>1410925
>Including returns, cases in which noncitizens left the U.S. voluntarily or after withdrawing their application for admission without undergoing formal removal proceeding

>>1410923
>they are a function of the government
First of all, whether or not somebody is a cop isn't "semantics". This isn't a situation where ICE isn't technically called police. They literally are not police. They do not investigate crimes. They can't take your ass to jail. They have no police training. They have none of the powers or duties of law enforcement. They enforce civil immigration law. ICE agents just cosplay as cops to get people to treat them like it. It's just stolen valor bullshit. And cops hate that shit because ICE agents tend to be poorly trained violent jackasses even by comparison and local cops end up their reputation shit up by false association, to say nothing of the impact that has on the relationship between cops and immigrant communities.

Second, you meant disfunction. As you said previously, their mission statement is supposed to be protecting America, but all they're doing is putting people in harm's way.

Saw an agent fire a less lethal round square into a reporter 20 feet away yesterday. Claimed she got "caught in the crossfire". Fact is there was no crossfire until they showed up. Nobody was under threat. There was no chaos. No good for America has come from any of this. Nobody is safer.

>>1410927
>Most were removed through expedited processes at the border—no court hearing, no trial.
>most
most
[mōst]
determiner

greatest in amount, quantity, or degree:
"they've had the most success" · "the candidate with most votes wins"

>>1410921
Those were people turned away at the border. During the Obama era it was policy to turn anyone caught within a set distance of the border back around and escort them out if they weren't claiming asylum and then count that shit as a deportation to try and boost deportation numbers (since actual deportations are kinda hard limited by immigration courts which Obama didn't control the expansion of and also the economy if we're counting self-deportations).

I'm surprised you don't remember this.

>>1410926
>And you seriously wonder why people are protesting this.
Because they're left-wing retards that don't give a shit about immigration laws.

>>1410928
>They can't take your ass to jail.
No, but they can deport people that are here illegally. Oh look! That's exactly what they did... and yet you're still blaming them for the fires you set in the streets.

>As you said previously, their mission statement is supposed to be protecting America
And enforcing immigration laws... y'know the part you skipped for some reason.
>but all they're doing is putting people in harm's way.
Nobody is forcing you to riot and arson. I know taking responsibility is a foreign concept to democrats, but just trust me that if you stop doing harmful shit no one will be in harm's way.

>Saw an agent fire a less lethal round square into a reporter 20 feet away yesterday. Claimed she got "caught in the crossfire".
Yeah this happens a lot when the left riots. Did you forget 2020 already?

>Fact is there was no crossfire until they showed up. Nobody was under threat. There was no chaos.
Hmmm
>>1410892
>The clashes between authorities and protesters lasted for hours in both Paramount and nearby Compton, though it was far from widespread. The chaos covered the area directly around the Alondra Boulevard store, but it was enough to provide for dramatic TV video.
>chaos
Oh look at that. There was chaos after all.

>>1410930
Oh, also, all those people would have been entitled to a day in court had they sought asylum or challenged their deportations. They simply didn't because it was just easier not to.

>>1410930
>Those were people turned away at the border.
He knows that already. I don't think his programming allows him to be anything but disingenuous.

>>1410930
And yet still inside the country. So where was your whining about court dates and due process when Obama was in?

Funny how it's only okay when a democrat does it.

>>1410931
>OH HELP ME ORANGE MAN THEY'RE WAVING FOREIGN FLAGS
>QUICK DEPORT THEM TO SOUTH SUDAN ON A MISDEMEANOR CHARGE
Tree of liberty, blood of tyrants, etc. etc.

>>1410931
>And enforcing immigration laws
Law enforcement is discretionary. If your enforcement of laws puts the public in danger, either those laws are bad, you're a shitty law enforcement officer, or both. Enforcement of the law should never take precedence over public safety.

You want to argue otherwise, I encourage you to go take a stroll through those protests.

>there was chaos after all.
>until they showed up
Learn to read, ESL.

>>1410934
See
>>1410932
Dipshit

>>1410935
>what are the odds that everyone ICE arrested came here illegally? lol

>>1410936
>Law enforcement is discretionary.
Ugh. This is why I hate dems. They think only the laws they like should apply.
>You want to argue otherwise, I encourage you to go take a stroll through those protests.
Oh God I wish they would fuck around here so I could become the next Rittenhouse. (un)Fortunately, they're containing the riot to that shithole Los Angeles.

>>1410937
>They simply didn't because it was just easier not to.
lol easier to just try again tomorrow and slip back into the country illegally. Many such cases under democrat leadership.

>>1410938
>>what are the odds that everyone ICE arrested came here illegally
You already know they've mistakenly deported American citizens. You're crying about how much it would cost of every migrant Obama turned away had a fair trial but you don't seem to realize it costs a lot of money and manpower to illegally deport American citizens and then fly them back when a judge orders them to.

>>1410940
>You already know they've mistakenly deported American citizens.
Oh? And who would that be? Abrego Garcia?

>>1410941
Read a newspaper or ask ChatGPT

>>1410942
>durrr trump deported American citizens
>who?
>uh.......... Just google it!
LMAO

>>1410944
We've all been waiting for you to start sealioning and here it is.

got arrested by ICE for posting here...they're sending me to el salvador

>>1410945
>sealioning
lol plebbit-speak for "I have no evidence to backup my bullshit claim."

>>1410945
>>1410942
Even though I figured you may be lying I looked into it anyways. Chatgpt listed zero instances of Americans being deported. It did however have two instances that were similar to, but not, Americans being deported. One of illegals being deported whom had young children which were American, and the young children were allowed to stay with the parents rather than stay here unattended.

Two was Americans temporarily detained, but not deported, which is perfectly legal and probably what you are purposefully conflating with deportation

>>1410960
>Just ignore the kids who are american citizens

>>1410963
>one kid
>had the option to stay in America
>parents said no, that's our meal ticket back in when a dem takes office

>>1410963
The child wasn't deported, their parents were.
Would you have preferred the child stated here unattended as an orphan?

Honestly it's pretty fucking irresponsible to be staying in a country illegally and then have a child. Probably 99% of the countries in the world would have done the exact same thing and deport the parents for being in the country illegally. This isn't some evil deed unique to trump, this is exactly how this works probably everywhere in the world, America *not* deporting it's illegals was the exception, not the rule

The riots continue into today, the beginning of the work week, as the sea of fentanyl bums and unemployed ne'er-do-wells infesting LA are blocking interstate traffic and continuing their rioutous shenanigans.
Pretty sure in Canada when people blocked traffic they were designated terrorists and their bank accounts were frozen, but something tells me these people don't have much money sitting in the bank

>>1410968
>>1410966
>>1410965
So much work to hate others. Your desire to “other” everyone who doesn’t look or live thevsame as you is the definition of fascism. Conservatives and fascism are hand in hand. All your little fits over the years about freedom are exposed in these moments. You want freedom for white cis men and fascism control over all others.

Keep dehumanizing all those you perceive as below you. It is of course the conservative ethos. Just stop pretending it has anything to do with the law or morals. You hate the other and you want them to disappear. So you encourage the disappearing of them, like all fascists do. Lick those Jack boots.

>>1410969
I don't hate anyone, but you've done a good job of "othering" people all on your own, haven't you?
I have no problem with anyone being here, what I dislike are when people broke the law to do so, and if they are not here legally, I think they need to be removed.
It's not a question of hating anyone, it's a question of following the law

>>1410969
>Your desire to “other” everyone who doesn’t look or live thevsame as you is the definition of fascism.
Except there's one problem with your argument there, retard-kun... I never factored race, color, culture, or lifestyle into my opposition to illegal immigration. If there was a bunch of white South Africans that smuggled their way into the country, I'd want them kicked out as well.
>Conservatives and fascism are hand in hand.
The leftist said while routinely acting like brownshirts attacking people and re-enacting the Kristallnacht in 2020.
>You want freedom for white cis men and fascism control over all others.
You know what assume does, right?
>Keep dehumanizing all those you perceive as below you.
Keep factoring race into everything. It makes it so much easier to win elections.
>You hate the other and you want them to disappear.
No I want them to get their asses in line and come into the country legally instead of skipping the process. But please continue to strawman.

>>1410976
>The leftist said while routinely acting like brownshirts attacking people and re-enacting the Kristallnacht in 2020.
Me when I rewrite history.

>>1410978
>Me when I rewrite history.
Like when you blame the boogaloo boys for causing $1.6 billion in property damage throughout the country?

>>1410979
Good post

>>1410979
Acting like that's even remotely comparable to Kristallnacht is pathetic cope. There were major riots caused by civil unrest due to police brutality hitting a breaking point. The system was broken and people were fucking pissed. Comparing it to a state-backed pogom against jews just makes you seem like an irrational retard.

>>1410981
>Kristallnacht
Nobody is being executed you fagmaxxer. Persons of illegal immigration status are being deported.
Way to try to rewrite history, ass spelunker

>>1410981
>Acting like that's even remotely comparable to Kristallnacht is pathetic cope.
Coming from the motherfucker that's been making WW2 references all day? What a fucking hypocrite. Since you have no problem comparing illegal immigrants to Jews inside 1930s Germany, I'll fucking do the same thing.
>BLM/Antifa throw molotovs into minority-owned stores
>Brownshirts throw molotovs into Jewish-owned stores

>>1410983
Hey anon, read the two prior posts before you speak.

>>1410985
>Nah the state ignoring the rule of law to violate rights means nothing
You're on the backfoot retard. Trying to create a class where due process doesn't apply never ends well.

>>1410987
>remember all those illegal immigrant jews smuggling themselves into nazi Germany by the millions?
>No? Me neither.

>>1410971
>I don't hate anyone, but
>I'm not racist, but
>I'm not homophobic, but
>I'm not misogynistic, but
>I'm not antisemitic, but
I'm not anti-left, but
>but
...you are the other. All the reasons why those 80 years ago said 'The Only Good Nazi Is A Dead Nazi'. They hated anyone not exactly like them: others. You can always stop having wrong opinions. You can stop thinking the way you do. You can stop hating those you consider 'others'. You can always say 'I don't hate anyone'. No 'Buts' allowed. But then, with your 'but' if other 'buts' like yuu ever got any semblance of political power there would be no end to your 'butting' No end to your hate. Gee, I wonder why those 80 years ago said 'The Only Good Nazi Is A Dead Nazi'?

>>1410989
Hmmm... I don't know anon. You're looking pretty illegal right now.

>>1410989
>remember how an Austrian was an illegal immigrant into Germany?
>No? Me neither
Because it would destroy bigots' opinions if they remembered.

>>1410992
LMAO good job giving the perfect anti-immigration argument, retard.

>>1410996
>an illegal Austrian immigrant into Germany
>an illegal Netherlander into US
>an inferior suvhuman dictator and Elvis's manager. It's impossible for them to be the only non-person of color who is an illegal immigrant
>anti-immigrationists being the ultimate hypocrites
>it's okay if whites are illegals
LMAO good job in proving all your opinions are wrong.

>>1410997
Wow you just made so many strawmen all at the same time it's like you can't actually engage with anything people have actually said, you just have to invent it all yourself

>>1410998
>facts being 'made up'
You can only make up that opinion of yours that whites can't be illegals. Facts destroy your opinions, though.

>>1410997
Nah nah nah nah we're not moving on from this one. You just gave the fucking PERFECT argument for being against illegal immigration. Do you want Hitler to take over the nation? No? Then better keep those illegals out. Remember what happened to Germany back when they let Austrians just cross the border?

LMAO you played yourself.

>>1411001
Want those people of color out of the US? Then agree that whites can be illegals too, and rightist hypocrites don't have the right to have opinions. Disagree and those 'others' you hate have more than every right in the world to be in US. And you don't have the right to think otherwise. That's how it works, you see. Can't have it both ways.
...and it's still utterly impossible for there not to be white illegals in US.

Just throwing this in here: >>1410939
I wonder why the phrase 'Politically Correct' has that second word in such?

>>1411002
>Want those people of color out of the US?
Only the illegal ones.

And we're still not moving on from the perfect anti-illegal immigration argument you just gave, retard.

>>1411007
...but you don't want whites out. Nobody wanted Col. Tom Parker out of US. Nobody wanted Hitler out of Germany. Not seeing you petsonally looking for all the white illegals in US - and all other countries - and deporting them yourself. Every second you're not, those white illegals aren't moving either. And neither are those of color. Because of your refusal to personally find & deport all those white illegals from US & all other countries, you're a rightist hypocrite that not only never had a so-called 'argument' in the first place, you also never had the right to have opinions on the matter in the first place.
So to prove your 'argument' is right you'd better stop posting in /news/ and start a-hunting & deporting all those white illegals in US & elsewhere. The only one stopping you: is you. Go ahead, chop-chop! You wouldn't want to prove I'm right by not doing so.

>>1411009
>...but you don't want whites out.
Illegal whites, yes. I think you have me confused with another anon, retard. That or the worst strawman ever.

>>1411011
So what's stopping you from personally finding & deporting all those illegal whites in US & other countries, if the whole issue is so life-threateningly bad that it somehow affects you personally?
Because clearly those colored illegals are taking your job of being a terminally online professional shitposter in /news/

>>1411013
>So what's stopping you from personally finding & deporting all those illegal whites in US
I don't work for ICE, retard.
>if the whole issue is so life-threateningly bad
Yeah I know. I mean I definitely don't want any of those illegal Austrians coming over. Remember what happened last time to Germany?

>>1410954
>>1410960
Imagine being this out of touch.

>>1411016
>I don't work for ICE
So the only one stopping you: is you. You don't want to personally do something about that which you consider to be so 'life-threatening' to you because the whole life-threatening 'issue' doesn't affect you personally, nor will it ever.
So there never was an 'argument' in the first place. Only hate for the 'other'. Incidentally
>>1410939
I'm sure there'll be plenty of white Americans that'll only be too glad to have their old jobs back that were cruelly taken from them by colored illegals. Oh wait

>>1410964
It wasn't one kid.

>>1411020
Give names.

>>1411023
use google

>>1411029
That's what I thought. It was one kid.

>>1411030
It wasn't but keep sealioning if you want, I don't care.

>>1411051
>sealioning
lol plebbit-speak for "I have no evidence to backup my bullshit claim."

>>1411018
Local Shills and MAGAfags are programmed to ignore the people who actually hire illegal immigrants.
Abbott and Texas fags refuse to incorporate E-Verify because they, and Republicunts in general, love hiring illegal immigrants.
All the posturing and raids are just so they can have America pay to terrorize their workbase
If no one is hiring them, illegal immigrants will go away. But that wasn't and is never the actual goal

>>1411052
It was widely reported on at the time, including here, but keep pretending you've never heard of it even more, it's hilarious.

>>1411020
According to Google it was two kids who had illegal parents who were being deported and the parents chose to take the child along, which leads me back to this point: >>1410966

>>1411060
First you said it was no one. Then you said it was one kid.
Now you're admitting it was at least two kids.
Maybe next you can find one of the adults it happened to.

>>1411060
>and the parents chose to take the child along
According to the Trump administration, not the parents.

>>1410938
>They think only the laws they like should apply.
Literally yes? Who in the fuck would want laws they don't like on the books? What the fuck do you think the point of governance is? How badly do you crave the taste of boot?

>>1411053
This.
Hey, you know why our immigration system is so convoluted and inefficient? It's because business want it that way. If immigrants could easily come here legally and/or get citizenship, businesses wouldn't have that leverage over them and wouldn't able to treat them like shit and pay them almost nothing, and they don't want that.
This """crisis""" exists because people are making a lot of money off it.

>>1411154
Also, business want illegal workers that they can pay less. If no companies or business hired illegal workers. They wouldn’t come here.

Business loves illegal workers. America loves illegal workers. Trump is just playing to bigotry because all his other policies are failing right now. Failed on Russia/ ukraine. Gaza, tariffs, economy, his hires are embarrassments. But the bigotry is a win for his base. Always.

>>1411225
>If no companies or business hired illegal workers. They wouldn’t come here.
Don't say it too loud, the shills have to ignore this

>>1410861
OK that mentions "Jan 6". I'm assuming that's 6 January.
But WTF is the relevance there?

>>1411316
>>1410858
>retard
>>1410861
>and >>1410858 can't read the post above hers
>retard
>Thanks for admitting you are, >>1410858
>and >>1411316 is too retarded to read threads
Thanks for admitting you're retarded too, >>1411316
But a link to help the retarded: >>1410857

>>1411055
One kid.

>>1411123
>Literally yes? Who in the fuck would want laws they don't like on the books?
Don't like the fact that we have laws against illegal immigration? Then win elections and put people in to change the law - oh wait, you lost! Turns out enough people give a shit about who we let in. Isn't democracy awesome?

>>1411357
>to change the law
Law enforcement is discretionary. Also, yeah, the law is also discretionary, but that doesn't really strengthen your argument which at this point just boils down to "we want this and we have the power to do it, so deal with the riots and chaos".

Which, you don't by the way. These ICE operations aren't exactly a roaring success and ICE is gonna get less than nowhere hemmed in by protesters. You have the *authority* to do it. You have no power.

>Turns out enough people give a shit about who we let in
I don't really see any counterprotesters. Seems like nobody gives a shit about who we let in except the dickbags from ICE getting protested to shit.

By the way, to be abundantly clear, I'm arguing against this shit on ethical and practical grounds. Arguing the law is pointless. Doubly so when the president's a felon and DHS violates court orders constantly. I'm not arguing the law and I know you don't care about the law. So if you can't actually put forward a counter argument to the points I'm raising, just stop whining.

>>1411389
>Law enforcement is discretionary.
You keep saying this like it's true. It isn't. And even if it was, Trump won the election by running on kicking out illegals, so his discretion is for ICE to do their job.
> just boils down to "we want this and we have the power to do it, so deal with the riots and chaos".
You're the ones causing the riots and chaos, over illegals getting removed like they're supposed to.
>These ICE operations aren't exactly a roaring success
We have far less illegals coming in than we did under Biden, we're pulling those already in out of the country, and ICE is teaming up with the DEA to go after cartels as deep as Montana inside our country. I'd call that a roaring success.
> You have the *authority* to do it. You have no power.
LMAO okay anon. How many of these deportations have you stopped? Zero?
>I don't really see any counterprotesters.
Not a lot of conservatives in Los Angeles. Let's see these protests happen in Phoenix.
>Seems like nobody gives a shit about who we let in except
Except for everyone who voted Trump in office to solve this problem.
>By the way, to be abundantly clear, I'm arguing against this shit on ethical and practical grounds.
Which you have none. Every civilized nation enforces their border and kicks out illegals. It's only here in NAZI FASCIST USA where people demand to stay here (You'd think they'd go somewhere else if we're such a racist nation).
>Arguing the law is pointless.
Only for you because you're a filthy democrat that doesn't give a fuck about laws.
>So if you can't actually put forward a counter argument to the points I'm raising,
All the counter-arguments you're ignoring.
>just stop whining.
LOL I'm not whining. I'm winning. You're about to get your faggot-ass curb-stomped by Marines because you're upset about the law we have in place. And I'm going to be here munching popcorn laughing the whole time as LA gets fucked up.

>>1411352
retard
>>1411392
How did you get like this?

>>1411392
>that doesn't give a fuck about laws
You literally just said change the laws if you don't like it (as opposed to don't change the law because it's good).
>Every civilized nation enforces their border and kicks out illegals
Most of Europe has unrestricted travel and settlement with each other. Immigration is good, actually. Also every uncivilized nation enforces their border and kicks out illegals.
>LOL I'm not whining. I'm winning.
Ahahahahaha.

>>1411401
>You literally just said change the laws if you don't like it (as opposed to don't change the law because it's good).
Do I really need to explain to you how democracy works? .... (I'm talking to a democrat, of course I do)
So in a democracy... instead of setting fires and blowing shit up when we don't like a law... we vote in people to change the law... Are you following so far? I know this is an advanced topic for you. Stop me if it's too confusing.
>Most of Europe has unrestricted travel and settlement with each other.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/16/europe/germany-land-border-control-schengen-intl
>She signaled the move was aimed at protecting German citizens from the dangers posed by Islamist terrorism as well as serious cross-border crime.
LMAO
>Immigration is good, actually.
LEGAL immigration. Not the illegal immigration you're setting fires over.
>Also every uncivilized nation enforces their border and kicks out illegals.
Shit I didn't realized Switzerland was uncivilized.
>Ahahahahaha.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/lRCPgs7KrwQ
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>1411404
>LEGAL immigration
The best way to eliminate illegal immigration and boost legal immigration is to eliminate all immigration laws.

We appear to be on the same side, you and I.

>Shit I didn't realized Switzerland was uncivilized.
Why are the most ESL motherfuckers always the most anti-immigration? I don't fucking get it.

>>1411405
>The best way to eliminate illegal immigration and boost legal immigration is to eliminate all immigration laws.
This is the most retarded argument I've heard all day. Right up there with "If we just decriminalize rape there won't be anymore rape!"

Only a democrat could think this up.

>We appear to be on the same side, you and I.
Not in a million years. You're only alive right now because it's illegal for me to kill you.

>>1411406
>This is the most retarded argument I've heard all day
Your argument was "illegal immigration is bad because it's illegal". I'm just pointing out the logical endpoint of that. I can't help it that you're too fucking stupid to make an argument for your positions that isn't based on the law being the law. A position I remind you you completely fucking torpedoed when *you* pointed out you can change the law.

>>1411407
>Your argument was "illegal immigration is bad because it's illegal".
Can you point to the post that said this, because I don't think I've gone into all the reasons why illegal immigration is bad for the country yet.
>I'm just pointing out the logical endpoint of that.
In the most illogical fucking way possible. "Hey if we just get rid of this law then nobody will break the law. Brilliant!" - As if that law wasn't put in for many valid reasons: security threats, crime, drug/sex trafficking and oh yeah checking against diseases like that whole COVID thing you dems were worried about for a while - that for some fucking odd reason didn't apply to immigration? Just to name a few.
>I can't help it that you're too fucking stupid to make an argument for your positions that isn't based on the law being the law.
I can't help it you're a retarded fucking democrat who has the same level of contempt for our legal system as the illegal immigrants you're sucking off.
>A position I remind you you completely fucking torpedoed when *you* pointed out you can change the law.
Oh yeah, mhm okay anon. Torpedoed. Yup. Yeah clearly your anarchist method of setting fire to everything in eyesight works better than voting. Fucking genius.

>>1411409
>Can you point to the post that said this, because I don't think I've gone into all the reasons why illegal immigration is bad for the country yet.
Have you gone into any of them, lmao?

>In the most illogical fucking way possible
That's not illogical if you don't have an underlying opposition to illegal immigration beyond it's illegality. You said legal immigration is fine, actually, remember?

Or is legal immigration bad now too?

>security threats
Dumb. Prove someone's a criminal or leave em alone. If they're wanted somewhere else, that's what extradition is for. If they're a spy or something, you could kick them out in particular. There is no reason the door being shut needs to be the default.
>crime
Already illegal
>drug/sex trafficking
Already illegal. (Also drugs should be legalized and enforcement money poured into treatment, actually.)
>and oh yeah checking against diseases like that whole COVID thing you dems were worried about for a while - that for some fucking odd reason didn't apply to immigration?
You can, in fact, check and quarantine legal immigrants.

So that's 2 mounds of complete bullshit and 2 non-issues. Cool. You are just phenomenally bad at this.

>>1411409
>>1411410
Oh, also, the disease one is especially weird because it would apply to legal immigrants.

It's really starting to sound like you just hate immigrants generally if you're giving reasons against illegal immigration that would apply to legal immigration.

>>1411410
>Have you gone into any of them, lmao?
So you can't point to a post. Cool.
>That's not illogical if you don't have an underlying opposition to illegal immigration beyond it's illegality.
Which I do, but you just dismissed all of those valid concerns with your bullshit in typical dem fashion. We'll get into it more.
>security threats
>Dumb.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/number-people-terror-watchlist-stopped-mexico-us-border-risen-rcna105095
Oh wow a democrat who hates America so much they're okay with terrorists being smuggled in. I'm so fucking shocked.
>crime
>Already illegal
Made worse by bringing in people who already don't give a fuck about our laws when they willingly break them to enter in the first place. Not to mention the never ending articles I can post of someone being killed by an illegal - that you'll dismiss because "wuh whites kill people mooooooore according to MSNBC!"
>drug/sex trafficking
>Already illegal.
And made worse by dems like Biden who don't give a fuck about our borders. Naturally Trump cracking down on sex trafficking infuriates you.
> (Also drugs should be legalized and enforcement money poured into treatment, actually.)
I swear to fucking god I hate you people so much. You're not even human to me. Yes lets just let everyone do drugs so the whole country can look like Portland. Another based take from the left.
>You can, in fact, check and quarantine legal immigrants.
Cool... Kinda hard to check for diseases and quarantine when you're just letting people hop the fence and be part of our population. But hey we all knew COVID was bullshit when you dems gave a pass for everyone when it suited your agenda.

And we haven't even got into the other reasons why illegal immigration is bad, such as the economic burdens and undercutting everyone going through the legal process.

>>1410593
>anyone on the left and anyone who even attempts to utter a thought about master trump being wrong for a single moment
>>1411031
>>1410974
>Mass Looting Breaks Out as LA Riots Intensify
>Riots Intensify
>>1411012
>TRUMP HIMSELF said the protests were effectively over
>So either (check one):
>[ ] Trump is wrong
>[ ] You're more than wrong, OP
>Choose wisely, OP.
So according to one of your ilk, things are getting worse, and is saying Trump is wrong in saying it's effectively over. Now, one of your ilk can never be wrong so I ask you (check one):
[ ] The OP of that thread is wrong, therefore you're more than wrong >>1410593
[ ] Your 'Master Trump' is even more wrong as suggested by that thread's OP, therefore your opinions are not only more than wrong, more than just your opinions are destroyed as those loyal Trump cultists want those who so much as think of saying that their master is wrong to be utterly destroyed
Choose wisely, >>1410593 .

>>1411412
>So you can't point to a post. Cool.
"I refused to defend my points despite constant prodding so can't prove I don't have any" isn't the own you think it is.
>Which I do, but you just dismissed all of those valid concerns
You didn't post any valid concerns
>muh watchlist
So to be clear, you want to keep millions of people out of the country because America has declared 160 people future criminals?
Like I said, dumb.
>Made worse by bringing in people who already don't give a fuck about our laws when they willingly break them to enter in the first place
You've yet to give a valid reason why anyone should care about these particular laws despite constant prodding.
>"wuh whites kill people mooooooore according to MSNBC!"
I dunno illegals lowering the violent crime rate seems kinda relevant and anecdotes don't. I think you might be stupid.
>And made worse by dems like Biden who don't give a fuck about our borders.
Almost all traffickers are US citizens. And, again, you can have border security without immigration restrictions. A isn't fucking related to B.
>You're not even human to me
Good. I've seen your standards.
>Cool... Kinda hard to check for diseases and quarantine when you're just letting people hop the fence and be part of our population
They wouldn't be hopping the fence if they could come in through ports of entry, now would they? Oh, hey, you made another argument for expanding legal migration.

>And we haven't even got into the other reasons why illegal immigration is bad
You need a reason before you get to other reasons.

>such as the economic burdens
While first generation immigrants are a slight drain on resources on average, the children of immigrants are the most upwardly mobile demographic in this country and drastically contribute more than other demographics to economic growth.
>and undercutting everyone going through the legal process
Another argument for expanded legal migration, lol.

You are just so unimaginably bad at this.

>>1410593
>"master" Trump
He's a fucking 78 year old politician and you are simultaneously a simp and a cuck for referring to him as "master". Absolutely fucking mind broken kek. Youre the type of bitch who wouldve been loyal to the British during the Revolution

>>1411418
>"illegal immigration is bad because it's illegal" isn't a thing you said but I'm going to keep saying it is because I have no argument.
Terrific.
>You didn't post any valid concerns
Thank you for re-re-reconfirming that democrats don't give a shit about our nations security, crime, sex trafficking, etc.
>So to be clear, you want to keep millions of people out of the country because America has declared 160 people future criminals?
OR here's a crazy idea... they could get in line and go through the legal process so we can verify who they are. But lol why would a criminal want to do that?
>You've yet to give a valid reason why anyone should care about these particular laws despite constant prodding.
It is too early in the morning to try and educate a democrat on why laws are important and crime is bad.
>I dunno illegals lowering the violent crime rate
I would love to see what far-left blog you pulled this out of your ass from.
>Almost all traffickers are US citizens.
Like Abrego Garcia?
>Good. I've seen your standards.
Likewise leftist.
>They wouldn't be hopping the fence if they could come in through ports of entry, now would they?
And they can't come through ports of entry because.... ?
>You need a reason before you get to other reasons.
You dismissing them only means they're invalid to you, criminal.
>While first generation immigrants are a slight drain on resources on average
I'm amazed you'll even admit that.
>Another argument for expanded legal migration, lol.
>we should just get rid of immigration laws because illegals are just going to break the law anyways
>from the same subhumans who argue for more gun control laws that do nothing lmao
>You are just so unimaginably bad at this.
Worst case of projection ever. You should see a doctor for your mental health.

>>1411421
That’s a lot of words to say you hate people who are not white. Keep demonizing the “other”, bro.

Trump ran on getting violent criminals out. They are now scooping up technical criminals who have bad paperwork from a broken immigration system.

This is not what he ran on. He ran on fixing the economy (fail) stopping the Russia/ukraine war (fail) stopping the Israel/ Palestine war (fail) lies about tariffs that have already been exposed. And getting violent murderers and gang members out of the country (fail)

So now his only option is to play to the bigots like you in his base. The ones who only require cruelty to non whites to cheer him on. Congratulations, you are useful idiot to Trump. He has talked about his favorite people are the useful idiots. Trump loves you.

>>1411418
Illegal immigration is a crime.
Simple as that.
Why are you defending crime?
Would you defend someone that breaks in to your home?
If not, then you are a hypocrite to defend someone that breaks in to your country.
Please explain your reasoning for defending a criminal act.
I truly am interested in your reasoning.
Is it just because you hate Trump?
USA is not my country so I am not giving you my opinion on this,I'm just trying to understand your reasoning.

>>1411423
>That’s a lot of words to say you hate people who are not white. Keep demonizing the “other”, bro.
Keep projecting, "bro".

>This is not what he ran on.
"I'm going to deliver a detailed policy address on one of the greatest challenges facing our country today, illegal immigration." - DJT
Sure anon.

>So now his only option is to play to the bigots like you in his base.
Or he has the option to send ICE to sanctuary cities and back them up with National Guard and Marines. Look at that! He's doing it already.

>Trump loves you.
He should. I voted for him.

I'm tired of this gish gallop bullshit.

>>1411437
>Illegal immigration is a crime.
It's actually a misdemeanor. The same as jaywalking, or stealing a candy bar. Why are you considering it a felony on par with murder?

>>1411456
What's the penalty?

>>1411456
OK. If it's not a "crime" then it is still "illegal". You can argue about the severity and classification all you want but at the end of the day it is still an "illegal" act.
The clue is in the name "illegal immigrant".
It's still breaking the law of the land.
Why are you defending breaking the law?
Also, for you to equate illegal immigration to "jaywalking, or stealing a candy bar" has to be one of the weakest arguments I have ever heard on this site. At no time did I imply that illegal immigration was comparable to "murder. I'm frankly struggling to see how anyone could read what I wrote as implying that.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you misread my post rather than assuming that you are incapable of understanding English or are purposefully being dishonest.
As Joe Biden would say
>Come on, Man
You still have not answered my question about why you think defending "breaking the law" is the right thing for you to do.
Answer my question please. I have answered yours.

>>1411468
>Why are you defending breaking the law?
Because I can't come up with a rationale for the law and because enforcement of the law demonstrably does more harm than good.

"The law is the law" is the argument of weak minds and weak men. The law does not have to be enforced and the law can be changed precisely because the law is not infallible.

>>1410540
You're retarded.

For an insurrection to work, you need weapons, divisions, cells, training, organization. What I saw was a bunch of patriots trying to overturn a stolen election. Trump literally told people on live television to go home. Also, Jan 6 had a far smaller impact on our country than the 2020 riots did, something which I still VERY much remember. Jan 6th? I don't really remember much from that day, the memes were kinda neat though.

>>1410568
I mean... it should be considered one, honestly. If you wave a foreign flag, why aren't you living there?

>>1410569
>Hey can we talk about the reason they're protesting first?
They have declared that the United States is an illegitimate colonial state and they believe that much of its territory rightfully belongs to Mexico

>>1411697
Nationalism is over. Globalism isn't going away.

>>1411699
Who is "They" supposed to be this time?

>>1411701
The Hispanic residents of the territory, legal and illegal, represented by these rioters

>>1411696
>For an insurrection to work
Nobody said their insurrection was gonna work.
>Trump literally told people on live television to go home
After it had failed and his supporters were starting to take bullets.

>>1411703
What made you this gullible?

>>1411770
You're naive

>>1411795
I'm sure you saw it on twitter and thought it was real.

>>1411798
You see them saying it themselves and you still don't believe it

>>1411697
In Star Trek, Earth doesn't have flags, only one for the United Federation of Planets. There aren't separate countries, and different currencies don't exist. The entire planet is governed by the UFP HQ'd in San Francisco. And if there's any bigotry still existing then, it's legislated out of existence: with those who commit wrongthink getting a visit by Section 31, and those thoughtcriminals are either persuaded that they no longer have the right to think the way they do or they no longer have the right to exist: they can't have, if a phaser blast makes sure of that. How certain agencies can make certain... 'people' disappear today, either in prison with no trial or in a hole in the ground
Now why don't I have a problem with that form of ultra-globalism, >>1411697 ?

>>1411801
You seriously think there aren't any white people at these protests?

>>1411807
We don't live in the Star Trek universe.

>>1411700
Not with that attitude it isn't.

>>1411720
>Nobody said their insurrection was gonna work.
Don't you think if Americans wanted to plan an actual insurrection we would have a concrete plan for it that wouldn't be quelled in just a few hours?
>After it had failed and his supporters were starting to take bullets.
Literally only one person got shot and killed that day from police, which is ironic given that she was a pilot in the US airforce as well as unarmed.

>>1411835
So explain to me why Globalism is such a bad thing then, and why I should be against it? Just mentioning Star Trek as an example of how ultra-globalism is impossible to be anything other than a good thing.

>>1411835
>Don't you think if Americans wanted to plan an actual insurrection we would have a concrete plan for it that wouldn't be quelled in just a few hours?
Plan? Also, bitch Trump couldn't come up with a concrete, coherent plan for eliminating USAID and you think there's any reason to believe he'd have one for doing a fucking insurrection?

Also
>Americans
Pretty sure you lose the right to invoke anything about America if you're talking about people that thought they both could and should overthrow it. Generally only dumbfucks do that shit like the Confederates.

Seriously, don't you think America is perfectly capable of stopping any insurrection anyone could try?

>>1411851
The Demonrats are the clowns constantly calling for a "revolution" and "civil war".
The useful idiots like you are so easy for Schiff, Pelosi, Newsom,Harris,etc.,etc.,etc. to wind up and set loose on the law abiding populace.
Unfortunately (for you), you have been identified and all your actions have been recorded to be used at your prosecution. RICO is in your future.
Over the last 5 months you have been fed enough rope to hang yourself and you stupidly kept yanking on it.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
I know of what I speak,
You could say it's because
>my futures so bright, I gotta wear shades.
Be seeing you, real soon.

>>1412287
>white rightard terrorists outside/within the Capitol Building on 6th January 2021
Thanks for those shades: it's not just the fuckups by Trump in the first several months of his adminifrustration that's ensuring the Democrats' future is brighter two/four years from now. The midterms & Vengeance Voting by those Republicans suffering because of Trump is that petard he'll be hoisting himself with in those short two years. If he's not already getting some practise in already.
See you, space farce cowboy.