A deep dive into leftist terrorism in the US and the growing trend of assassination culture amongst the left
https://www.newsweek.com/political-violence-left-wing-extremism-donald-trump-gaza-deportation-riots-2083162
The Growing Threat of Political Violence From the Left

At a recent protest in Midtown Manhattan—one of many against Donald Trump's administration—a pair of masked women stood quietly outside the stone lions that loom over the New York Public Library, a life-sized cutout of Luigi Mangione propped between them.

No one seemed to mind. As chants against authoritarianism echoed down Fifth Avenue and homemade signs called for due process and migrant rights, Mangione's effigy stood unchallenged—just another figure in one particular demonstration's crowded landscape.

Mangione, 26, who is charged with shooting and killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in a targeted attack last December, remains something of an enigma more than six months since he was arrested in Pennsylvania in connection with Thompson's murder. His political views — or what are known of them — are contradictory if not incoherent. He was the highly educated scion of a well-off Baltimore family who had no obvious beef with the capitalist system of which he benefited. Mangione wrote about his chronic back injury, but he was never insured by UnitedHealth.

None of that has stopped a left-wing activist movement from embracing him and coopting his image as a vigilante fighting against the perceived wrongs of the American healthcare system. In today's fractured political climate, such selective silence is becoming increasingly common.

'Assassination Culture'
While right-wing extremism is regularly dissected and denounced in mainstream media, conservatives have long complained that political violence from the left regularly receives less scrutiny—or is reframed entirely to dismiss the perpetrators' progressive views. This perceived imbalance has fueled a growing belief, often discussed on conservative subreddits, in right-leaning Substacks, and on X, that left-wing violence is minimized or rationalized, while right-wing violence is amplified and condemned.

The Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI), a nonpartisan organization that studies the spread of hate, manipulation, and extremism across digital platforms, has raised these concerns recently. Based at Rutgers University, the group uses machine learning and data analytics to identify emerging threats and ideological patterns online.

"We're witnessing the alarming rise of what the NCRI calls an 'assassination culture,'" said Max Horder of the NCRI, in an interview with Newsweek. "Violence targeting figures like Donald Trump or Elon Musk has gone beyond normalization—it's being sanctified as resistance by parts of the political left."

That once-theoretical threat turned very real last July in Butler, Penn., when Donald Trump was nearly killed in the middle of a campaign rally by a lone gunman perched on a nearby rooftop. The near miss shocked the country, but polling showed sharp partisan divides even in the case of the near assassination of a presidential candidate.

A YouGov survey conducted shortly after found that 54 percent of U.S. adults said Trump deserved sympathy. Among Democrats, only 31 percent agreed, while 60 percent said he did not. In contrast, 83 percent of Republicans expressed sympathy for the then-candidate, reflecting how politics shapes responses to violence.

Two months later, another attempt on Trump's life took place at his Florida golf club. A poll of 1,000 registered voters by Scott Rasmussen's Napolitan News Institute found that 17 percent said it would have been better for the country if Trump had died. Among Democrats, the number was 28 percent.

"For decades, we've assumed that calls for political violence come from the far right—and often, they have. What we never expected was the enormous growth in similar calls coming from the mainstream left," Horder said.

Both of the men who police say came close to killing Trump last summer also shared something in common with Mangione: political worldviews that ranged between muddled and contradictory.

Corridor to Violence'
The NCRI rose to prominence in recent years due to its prescient early warnings about far-right radicalization, including the growth of the QAnon conspiracy theory and the risk of political violence leading up to the certification of the election on January 6, 2021. Joel Finkelstein, co-founder of the NCRI, recalled in an interview with Newsweek: "They weren't an accident. They didn't come out of nowhere. They were inevitable."

Now, the group is raising similar concerns—this time about rhetoric emerging from the opposite end of the political spectrum. "These aren't fringe beliefs anymore," the group warns. "They're creeping into the mainstream of activist discourse."

A recent survey conducted by the NCRI found that nearly one-third of respondents expressed some level of justification for acts of lethal political violence, with significantly higher support among those identifying as left-of-center. Fixty-six percent of those respondents said murdering Donald Trump would be at least somewhat justified, while 50 percent said the same about Elon Musk.

The poll also found that 40 percent of all respondents believed it was at least somewhat acceptable to destroy a Tesla dealership in protest of Musk's partnership with Trump, with support rising to nearly 60 percent among those who identified as left-of-center.

NCRI's analysis, based on troves of social media data, reveals how fringe internet culture has helped build what the group calls "permission structures" for violence. These are social environments—online or offline—where violent acts are no longer condemned but tacitly accepted, if not outright encouraged.

"It's not just about who pulls the trigger," said Finkelstein. "It's about who stays silent, who reposts a meme, who says nothing when someone jokes about killing a billionaire. That's how the corridor to violence gets built."

The imagery and meme-ification of Luigi Mangione is one such example. Mangione, currently jailed pending his capital murder trial, has become an anti-hero in niche online communities. His likeness is shared alongside memes depicting Nintendo's Luigi character as a stylized assassin—ironic, cartoonish, but deadly serious.

"It looks like a joke," Horder said, linking Mangione's online fame to a pattern of other real-world incidents, including the recent firebombing of elderly Jewish protesters in Boulder, Colo., allegedly by an Egyptian national angry about the war in Gaza. "But it's not. It's a method of radicalization wrapped in humor.

"They were acting within a worldview that told them these killings would be celebrated. And online, they were."

Gaza Conflict and Domestic Spillover
Just days before the antisemitic attack in Boulder, two Israeli embassy staffers were gunned down outside the Capital Jewish Museum in Washington, D.C., in a targeted attack that resembled the style of the ambush on Thompson. According to law enforcement, the suspected gunman, Elias Rodriguez, stalked the two young diplomats after they departed an event. Upon arrest, told officers, "I did it for Palestine. I did it for Gaza."

"This targeting and outright murder of two people is very much an escalation from traditional left-aligned protest tactics," said Katherine Keneally, director of threat analysis at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, a nonprofit that monitors extremism and terrorism, to NPR. "Trends are changing."

Since Hamas attacked Israel on October 7, 2023, killing some 1,200 Israelis and taking hundreds more captive, at least five deaths in the U.S. have been linked to the Palestine conflict. Experts told NPR that the war between Israel and Hamas has changed the tone of some left-wing protests, making the red lines less clear.

On college campuses across the U.S., protests against Israel have waxed and waned. Some activists have been criticized for spreading messages seen as antisemitic or outright supportive of militant groups like Hamas and Hezbollah.

"Left-wing extremism is often overlooked, in part because the worst state abuses and non-state violence associated with proponents of communist and socialist ideologies happened several decades ago," said Jakob Guhl, director of policy and research at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue.

"Some actors on the broader far left continue to carry out or support acts of political violence and terrorism," he added.

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Rodriguez, who is accused of killing the young Israeli diplomats, shared social media posts praising Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah—evidence, researchers say, of a growing wave of pro-Hamas or pro-terrorist sentiment among a small but outspoken group of Gaza-focused activists. According to reports, Rodriguez also spoke admiringly of Mangione in posts unearthed by law enforcement.

Seth Jones, director of the defense and security department at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, called the execution of the diplomats "an anomaly"—a rare instance of deadly far-left violence tied to antisemitism. "Typically, attacks against synagogues or Jewish individuals have come from the violent far right," he told NPR.

"The escalation is striking," said Colin Clarke of the Soufan Group, a New York-based security consultancy. "Since October 7th, we've seen an uptick in far-left extremism surrounding Gaza. It's not just pro-Palestinian rhetoric anymore—some of it is explicitly pro-Hamas, pro-Hezbollah."

However, Keneally, the extremism monitor, said that even as left-wing violence rises, far-right violence—especially from white supremacists—remains the deadliest and most consistent domestic threat, according to federal assessments.

"What the research has shown is that when it comes to – and I don't think there's any other more direct way to say it than the death count – incidents that are typically affiliated with issues or ideologies that might fit in a more far-right bucket have been more lethal," she told NPR.

Guhl also said he would not to conflate radical but peaceful protest movements on university campuses or civil disobedience tactics with far-left groups that promote political violence.

"The term 'left-wing extremism' should not be overused to delegitimize social movements that aim to fundamentally challenge the status quo while still believing in universal human rights rather than the abolition of democracy," he said.

An Asymmetry Amplified
The trends flagged by researchers—online radicalization, meme culture, and the normalization of violence as a means to justify a political end—are increasingly shaping public discourse well beyond the digital sphere.

Peter Turchin, a University of Connecticut professor and leading theorist of structural-demographic cycles, sees the current moment as part of a predictable historical pattern.

"In 2010, I predicted a period of political instability beginning in the 2020s," Turchin told Newsweek. "And nearly every warning sign—popular immiseration, elite overproduction, eroding state capacity—has only intensified."

While political violence has increased across ideological lines, Turchin said that public perception and media coverage remain uneven.

"Right-wing violence is emphasized by mainstream media because it's perceived as an existential threat to the ruling regime," he said. "Whereas left-wing violence is often seen as less threatening—sometimes even as a counterweight to the right."

According to Turchin, this perception gap is no accident. "Narratives around political violence are shaped not just by the acts themselves, but by the stories that elites—and counter-elites—build around them," he said. Both he and Horder agreed that instances of political violence, wherever they come from, perpetuate a cycle in which each side accuses the other of hypocrisy while excusing the bad actors on their own extremes.

Recent events have borne this out. The unrest and riots that have spread across parts of Los Angeles this week—triggered by federal immigration raids—has reignited debate about protest tactics and when and how the federal government should involve itself when its presence is not requested by local officials. Meanwhile, videos of self-driving cars aflame and masked rioters throwing rocks at federal agents ricocheted across social media.

"If we didn't do the job, that place would be burning down," Trump said about his decision to activate the Guard. "I feel we had no choice. I don't want to see what's happened so many times in this country."

Governor Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass, California's highest-profile elected officials who are both progressive Democrats, condemned the president for inflaming the simmering unrest, though they were, at first, more muted about calling out some of the acts of violence caught on camera.

That appeared to change by Tuesday, the fourth day of the rioting, when Bass issued her most straightforward condemnation of the violence in the streets.

"People talk about radicalization like it's something that happens in dark corners of the internet," said Horder from NCIR. "But it's happening on the streets now too, in broad daylight, sometimes behind banners of justice."

gotta love how leftists are preaching about "right to protest" all the while loot burning and destroying property to gather resources to chuck at cars. I hope they all get charged with treason domestic terrorism and spend a decade in prison. this is way worst then what jan6 ever was

>>1412000
>Please protest in the most ordered, unintrusive ways possible. We wouldn't want there to be any unrest after all

>>1412000
Honestly though, the leftist assassination culture needs to stop. I honestly believe that trump would not have won, and would not have been as bold in his actions as he is now if not for the multiple assassination attempts and brush with near death.
Those sorts of things tend to embolden people with brash attitudes such as trumps, not temper them

>>1412006
The guy who actually shot at Trump was a right-winger lmao.

>>1412004
nice goalpost moving, you can scream you can wave flags, what you can't do is set property on fire, loot stores, assault people and destroy houses for bricks to then chuck at law enforcement.
>>1412006
Agreed, It would've blown up at some point imo, leftists are such vile selfish hypocrites, they don't realize how much they've driven people to support trump. its pretty telling when you have mainstream media polls where a majority of people support trump's illegals mandate.
>>1412007
leftist copium, I'm going to enjoy seeing you rot in prison.

>>1412008
I don't know how to explain to you people take advantage of unrest, and it is the fault of the government when they violate people's rights enough to generate that unrest. ICE's actions are an abuse of power. Trump's deploying the national guard against the wishes of the state governor is an abuse of power. These protests were literally dying down until the guard deployed and escalated things.

>>1412007
The kid who donated to act blue on biden's inauguration day? Or the guy who was a registered Democrat with all the Biden Harris stickers on his truck?

>>1411991 (OP)
>OP pic AI slop, instead of an actual photo: there's plenty available via news wires, but OP is reduced to retarded fiction because reality has a liberal bias, therefore proving the OP's opinions more than wrong
A deep dive into rightardism
>Newsweek
QED
>>1412006
Honestly though, the rightards assassinate their own opiniions by they being rightards
The likes of >>1412008 don't realize that Canada & Australia's electorate voting for governments that aren't rightard are directly due to Trump merely existing in politics.
>>1412007
Superior post
>>1412007
>>1412011
Retarded - therefore wrong - posts
Normal sane humans would never allow such retarded & thus wrong opinions to exist in their superior minds.
When we want your opinions we'll give them to you, rightards.

>>1412010
>These protests were literally dying down
nice delusions you're so out of touch with reality.
I hope trump uses this to crack down on far-left domestic traitors and uses the fbi to put people like you on a watchlist.
>>1412014
because canada is filled with selfish leftists boomers how is that a surprise? you think i don't know? look up the priorities of the voting group by demographic.
the only group that voted for liberals was 60+ boomers who put "dealing with trump" above social programs, rising costs, housing costs, and immigration. every other demographic 18-59 voted conservative majority.

and here's the thing if trump didn't do his stupid tariff war it would've gone the complete opposite the opposition party was projected for a super majority.

>>1412016
>nice delusions you're so out of touch with reality.
Trump literally posted in celebration of how amazing the National Guard were doing... and then everyone promptly pointed out they didn't deploy yet. When they did, everything promptly erupted again.

>>1412019
us needs a reeducation camp to replace the slave laborers, anyone found hiring illegals for under minimum wage anyone being a domestic terrorist, anyone assaulting law enforcement should have their property stripped and sent to one of these camps, its time to send domestics to Guantanamo bay as well.

>>1412016
>I hope trump uses this to crack down on far-left domestic traitors
Why do you want Trump to crack down on no one real, just the imaginary fent fueled delusions in your head?

>>1412023
anon, you can't gaslight people like that when reddit is real. Just look at the latest comment on a mainsub it's all domestic terrorists. They should all be sent to the prison labor camps

>>1412019
>"We rioted, how dare you send people to prevent rioting, we're going to riot again"
What is this weird cope tho.
It's almost as if the riot never actually stopped, people just went to bed at some point and continued the next day

>>1412025
>YOU HAVE TO CARE ABOUT REDDIT
you can always go back to talk to your friends there
shills and polfags ruined this site

When a Democrat president stands outside the Capitol building and tells a swarm of his zealots to go in and stop an election from being certified because it didn't go his way, I'll pay some credence to right wing pearl clutching about trash cans being knocked over.

>>1412032
>tells a swarm of his zealots to go in and stop an election from being certified because it didn't go his way
Trump didn't say this , but you people do love your misinformation

>>1411991 (OP)
>stand with a sign
>chant

>violence

Why are Magatards such fragile snowflakes?

>>1412035
>hello leftist livestock. guess you'll ignore the fact that his tweets before jan6 was telling people not to be violent and stay peaceful.
>Guys, he said not to be violent. Why does it matter that he refused to send the national guard and encouraged them to rush the capitol in the first place
Shockingly, actions speak louder than words

>>1412016
>because canada is filled with selfish leftists boomers how is that a surprise?
...and only people over 60 can vote in Canada? Or reality proves that those 18 or over in that country aren't in lockstep with your rightard opinions. Because the majority of those between 18 & 59 don't allow your wrong opinions to exist in their superior minds. Speaking of minds
>and here's the thing if trump didn't do his stupid tariff war it would've gone the complete opposite the opposition party was projected for a super majority
>but Trump being the retard he is destroyed that chance for said opposition party who will stay being the opposition. Good
>and it's all the fault of Trumptards allowing that orange retard to politically exist after November 2024. What happened in that country to the north of the US several months later? As they would say in Soviet South Park, Blame Trump
Oooo, careful. You almost had a spark of sanity there by admitting that Canada not voting the way you wanted them to is because of the retardation of a senile orange thing with retarded opinions. Just like its retarded cultists.
Fortunately there are a growing number of former Trumpists that are starting to have sparks of sanity in their minds and it's the effects of those tariffs on other countries biting them in the ass in return due to how they voted several months ago. But they - because of becoming sane and non-rightard - will get their revenge in the midterms. Vengeance Voting.
Gee, it's like Trump is a reverse-Midas: everything he touches turns to shit. The last few weeks. QED.

>>1412039
weird that they keep fantasizing about their enemies being assraped though

>>1412035
In your gay fantasies, are you assraping the libs or do you have people to do it for you while you masturbate in the corner?
Have you seen a therapist for your gay rape fantasies? Its not healthy

>>1412033
Why was the crowd of MAGA zealots outside the Capitol building on January 6th?

>>1412027
Because the best way to address people angry about government overreach is to overreach even more. You realize you're supposed to DEescalate conflict, right? Do you think the solution to people striking because of low wages is to lower their wages even more? Do you think the best way to respond to someone pissed at you insulting them is to insult them again?

>>1412044
Ashley Babbit was innocently walking on her own through an adjacent park when 400 deep state agents jumped out of the woods and surrounded her
"We see your MAGA hat, you're charged with supporting a president we deem unacceptable. You're under arrest!" they cried
Then Ashley Babbit made the most patriotic and impassioned speech ever, you should have heard it but the deep state agents took the video, before getting shot 1776 times by the agents surrounding her
Then the deep state tried to lie and make it sound like she was 'disobeying orders to stand down', but we know its a lie because the lawful death payout Trump made to her

>>1412039
oh so now actions matter, do you finally admit antifa is a bigotted regressive group of facist sociopaths then?
>muh we're called antifa we can't be fascist

>>1412039
>19 confirmed deaths
>$1.6 billion in property damage
>more arsons than we can count
Actions speak louder than words indeed.

>>1412035
>YOU ALL NEED TO GO DOWN TO THE CAPITOL BUILDING, WHERE THE TREASONOUS CONGRESS AND MIKE PENCE ARE ABOUT TO VIOLATE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY AND CERTIFY A STOLEN ELECTION! IF THEY DO THAT, YOUR COUNTRY IS OVER AND YOU'LL NEVER GET IT BACK! THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SAVE YOUR COUNTRY IS TO GO OUT AND FIGHT! FIGHT TO SAVE YOUR NATION FROM AN ILLEGITIMATE CABAL WHO HATE YOU AND WANT TO DESTROY YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU BELIEVE IN, WHICH THEY WILL DO IF THIS ELECTION IS CERTIFIED! YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!
>Butalsobepeacefulaboutit FIGHT! FIGHT LIKE YOUR COUNTRY AND EVERYTHING YOU LOVE DEPENDS ON IT, BECAUSE IT DOES!
Oh, okay.

>>1412052
It was more than that. The official tally stopped 20 days after the riot began, but the riots lasted six months.

Rittenhouse was based in more ways than he could possibly realize.

>>1411991 (OP)
>His political views — or what are known of them — are contradictory if not incoherent.
>injured back
>insurance denied
>shoot insurance ceo
luigi all journalists for their lies

>>1412007
>shot at
he hit Trump in the ear.

>>1411991 (OP)
Wait, some partisan dweeb wrote an entire article whining about a cardboard cut out he saw?

>>1412059
Ah yes, the 79 year old man's ear that magically healed from being hit by a high caliber round in three days.
Not even a scar to show for it. Makes sense. Octogenarians are known for their quick injury recovery and strong skin.

>>1412060
>Wait, some partisan dweeb wrote an entire article whining about a cardboard cut out he saw?
What the hell are you imagining weirdo

>>1412063
I'd tell you to try reading the article of the thread you're posting on, but if you did that, you wouldn't be you.

The corporate capitalist U asS A is a freak Nation. All other 1st world countries are socialist. But Democratic socialism is not enough. CCP IS THE WAY TO GO. State capitalism.

>>1412064
I'm wondering about the cardboard cutout comment

>>1411991 (OP)
Why do chuds fall for newsweek bait every single time?

The left has a monopoly on violence, not a big surprise. Especially considering they got the 12/61 in their pocket.

>>1412092
86 47

>Growing political violence of the left

Biden deported 271,000 people his last fiscal year. Obama deported 3,000,000 people.
Trump is doing this whole thing the wrong way. If he did it the way Biden and Obama did it, we wouldn't even be talking about this shit.

>>1412103
Well, Biden and Obama were actually serious about deporting people.
Deporting people isn't the goal with Donny

>>1412103
>>1412104
You want to know what's fascinating that you retards blissfully ignore?
82% of the deportations under the Biden figure you just mentioned were deportations of people who had just illegally crossed the border.

The deportations you are referencing are literally Biden deporting people as soon as he lets them enter the country illegally. It's probably the easiest way to beef up meaningless deportation numbers imaginable

Since trump has effectively plunged illegal entry rates down to near historic lows (92% reduction from Biden era), nearly his entire deportation figures for 2025 are going to be made up of illegals already residing illegally in the country.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deportations-by-ice-10-year-high-in-2024-surpassing-trump-era-peak/

The more you know, leftoids. Let it all soak in.

>>1412118
And yet Trump can't meet his own quotas. Curious.

>>1412118
we already know all your posts include lies, faggot shill. nobody takes you seriously just because you're a faggot with a patronizing attitude

>>1412121
>Most of the deportations in fiscal year 2024 involved migrants who were apprehended by U.S. border officials, as opposed to those arrested by ICE in the interior of the country, the agency report shows. Roughly 82% of the 271,000 immigrants deported that year were first arrested by Customs and Border Protection. The rest were initially arrested by ICE in jails or during operations in communities.
Kek.
Ok illiterate faggot.

You can continue to cope, seethe, dilate and spread misinformation like you leftoid scum always do. That's all you people do now is lie and cope.

>>1412122
good job spouting more half-truths faggot. you're still never going to be american or taken seriously

>>1412120
Trump is such an incompetent retard that despite 15 million illegals in the country, he can't deport any of them

>>1412122
Does it make you angry that the rank and file MAGAfag is starting to realize that they actually like immigrants?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-voter-admits-he-has-a-little-buyer-s-remorse-after-losing-a-third-of-his-workforce/ar-AA1Gx2SP
Trump always chickens out, and when businessmen come crying to him he'll listen to money, not degenerate foreign racists like yourself.

>>1412123
Dont know what to tell you fagmaxxer, you've been utterly btfo yet again
82% of bidens deportations were people who had just crossed the border illegally. His numbers were trump up. All he was doing was deporting the people he let in the country illegally

>>1412125
>Does it make you angry that the rank and file MAGAfag is starting to realize that they actually like immigrants?
You do you with your weird little fantasies. I'm just talking facts and numbers here.

>>1412126
>82% of bidens deportations
source for your cope, or are you just having another meltdown again?

>>1412127
>>1412127
>source for your cope, or are you just having another meltdown again?
Already posted it fagmaxxer.
I'll spoon-feed it it you again tho.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deportations-by-ice-10-year-high-in-2024-surpassing-trump-era-peak/
>Most of the deportations in fiscal year 2024 involved migrants who were apprehended by U.S. border officials, as opposed to those arrested by ICE in the interior of the country, the agency report shows. Roughly 82% of the 271,000 immigrants deported that year were first arrested by Customs and Border Protection. The rest were initially arrested by ICE in jails or during operations in communities

>>1412128
>were first arrested by Customs and Border Protection
But that doesn't mean the border.
CBP can operate within 100 miles of the border, which is most of the US

How many were arrested at the border? Does your article even say or are you just making an assumption because it works for your argument?

If you weren't a rageposting moron who actually read the things you swing around people may not dismiss you, but the article isn't claiming what you're saying its claiming.

>>1412129
What are you doing making some weird stupid pedantic argument that the border is conceptually a line of zero width?
They patrol some region of land around the border, their job is to stop people from illegally crossing it, and 82% of bidens deportations were from said department tasked with patrolling said border

2/10 argument

>>1412131
So you don't know, and you're just an ignorant rageposter
This is why people ignore your faggoty shill ass.
Go get BTFO somewhere else. polfags are dumb enough to accept your shit

>>1412132
No, I'm saying your argument is shit. They patrol the border, and they arrest people who illegally cross it.
82% of bidens deportations were from the people who stop people from crossing the border illegally.

His entire track record is built on him letting in illegal aliens and then deporting them immediately.

Trump reduced illegal border crossings by over 90% and is deporting the illegal aliens who are already here.

You can't argue with these facts. No matter how hard you try, you can't weasel your way out of the truth

>>1412129
he doesn't know how to read english, he's just doing his job

>>1412134
Border patrol operates within 100 miles of the border.
You're either ignorant or an ESL shill. Probably both.

>>1412134
Border Patrol operating within 100 miles of every border (including the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean borders) and being able to execute searches, seizures, and arrests with distinctly lower standards than normal law enforcement has been a problem for a long time now.

Wow triple lefty melty combo after being utterly btfo by facts.
Stay classy.

>>1412139
having fun being ridiculed yet again, faggot? good for you

>>1412141
Lol Ive been btfo you with facts faggot.
The fact that the border patrol can arrest illegal border crossers within 100 miles of the border they illegally crossed doesn't mean anything wrt to the fact that 82% of bidens deportations were by border patrol deporting people who had just crossed illegally

Lmao. Enjoy your coping retard, I'm def enjoying it

>>1412142
you need to learn english, shill, spamming your talking points after being proven wrong just digs you a deeper hole

>"Hey chat gpt, explain it to this retard so that he understands"
In fiscal year 2024, approximately 82% of deportations were individuals who had just been arrested by Customs and Border Protection (CBP)—i.e., at or very near the border—rather than by Interior ICE operations .

What this means

If someone crosses illegally and is apprehended, there's a high likelihood (around 80%+) they'll be removed within days via CBP or expedited removal.

The remaining ~18% face interior enforcement by ICE—which may mean longer processes, hearings, or enforcement actions deeper in the U.S. .

This means that most deportations happen immediately or within days of crossing and being caught, not after deep interior proceedings.

>>1412143
You don't even know what you're talking about lol. I'm laughing even more at the fact that you are so upset over these facts because they're contrary to your narrative. You're trying to push about Biden being some sort of ideal illegal deporter who did a bang up job lol
Tell your handlers to give you access to Google or something so you can actually research your arguments and understand why you are wrong rather than just looking like a retarded misinformation bot repeatedly

>>1412145
you are too stupid and esl to distinguish me from other posters and i think that's worth making fun of you for

>>1412147
Keep faggin on, King Fagmaxxius, Archduke of Queershire, Baron of Troonburg, and heir apparent to the fag throne.

You've been btfo a half dozen times now every time you used misinformation to justify your Biden sloppy toppies.

Cheers :^)

>>1412144
>—i.e., at or very near the border—
Your retardation is that you keep inserting this part, when in actuality its all arrests CBP makes within 100 miles of the border.
You're cripplingly retarded

>>1412149
like i said, learn english faggot

>>1412118
>cherry picks that trump didn't do this exact same thing.

>>1412162
Pretty certain Trump reduced illegal border crossings by over 90% or something

>>1412163
you suck at your job

>>1411991 (OP)
Mangione left a coherent message explaining that he had retaliated because of decisions he believed led to the death of his grandparents prematurely

I'm not condoning it, but that article was misleading as it is clearly stated in his manifesto

>>1412164
Whatever helps you cope, angry little man. Isn't it time for you to call someone esl, or even better isn't it time for your catchphrase?

>>1412167
the fact that you've internalized all the ways i make fun of you only vindicates me, shill. you can't win

>>1411992
>'Assassination Culture'
What the deal with the post office by the way. Are they still being used to spy on American's social media, or was that just a Biden thing?

>>1412168
What you do is referred to as spam, and you resort to it when you have no constructive arguments.
Doesn't really bother me, makes you look a lot worse than anything else

>>1412169
ahh I answered my own question. Turns out Biden using the post office for mass spying on American social media was illegal
https://www.vice.com/en/article/post-office-cops-used-social-media-surveillance-program-illegally/

>>1412170
you sure copy me a lot for it to be spam, faggot

>>1411992
>"We're witnessing the alarming rise of what the NCRI calls an 'assassination culture,'" said Max Horder of the NCRI, in an interview with Newsweek. "Violence targeting figures like Donald Trump or Elon Musk has gone beyond normalization—it's being sanctified as resistance by parts of the political left."
and all the leftists shooting at trump and musk are where, exactly?
>w-well they say they think it'd be justified in a poll
>and check out this guy who firebombed fun runners in denver (even though no one on the left is standing up to support then)
meanwhile, the actual expert analysis
>However, Keneally, the extremism monitor, said that even as left-wing violence rises, far-right violence—especially from white supremacists—remains the deadliest and most consistent domestic threat, according to federal assessments. "What the research has shown is that when it comes to – and I don't think there's any other more direct way to say it than the death count – incidents that are typically affiliated with issues or ideologies that might fit in a more far-right bucket have been more lethal," she told NPR.

just more scaremongering from a "news" magazine that was brought in by the bush white house to justify the iraq war

>>1412169
>>1412171
And you think Trump hasn't given that over to Palantir?

>>1411993
You forgot to include this paragraph:
"Thomas Crooks, 20, who was shot dead by Secret Service snipers moments after his bullet grazed Trump's ear in Butler, left virtually no online footprint. He was a registered Republican who donated to Democrats on the day of Joe Biden's inauguration. Ryan Routh, 59, who is accused of lying in wait for Trump in the bushes as he played a round of golf, was a self-proclaimed Trump voter who had grown disillusioned over the war in Ukraine. He also expressed support for Bernie Sanders."

First they came for the genocide-deniers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a genocide-denier.

Then they came for the healthcare CEOs, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a healthcare CEO.

Then they came for the ICE agents, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a ICE agent.

Then they came for me—but happily, there were plenty of people left to speak for me.

>>1412163
trump was president in 16-20 where i guess this wasnt a priority aside of saying he'd build a wall, put his name on it, and have mexico pay for it.

stop being gullible.

>>1412165
>newsweek article ends up being misleading
Who would have thunk it?

>>1412198
"no u" is the only card you people have.

>>1412204
93% drop since April 2024.
Trump has basically stopped all illegal border crossings
https://usafacts.org/answers/how-many-migrant-encounters-are-there-along-the-us-mexico-border/country/united-states/

>>1412218
>since April of 2024
retard

>>1412221
There is an army patrolling our Southern border now, you may not know this since you don't live in America.
Two armies actually, Trump got Mexico to deploy their army to the northern border
Coupled with his demonstrably hardline stance on deporting illegal aliens, it's quite easy to understand how he's achieved a 93% reduction in illegal border crossings

>>1412221
Check out this hot tamale. The entire month of March 2025 had as many illegal border crossings as just two days of March 2024.
That's how much trump has managed to stymie illegal immigration across the southern border.
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-releases-march-2025-monthly-update

>>1412224
>>1412225
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/20/nx-s1-5235329/why-deportations-hit-a-10-year-high-in-2024
>Deportations under President Biden have hit their highest point in almost a decade. The number of removals conducted in 2024 by Immigration and Customs Enforcement - or ICE - has surpassed those conducted during the first Trump administration.
You both are confirmed 100% downs syndrome

>>1412218
>Trump has basically stopped reporting illegal border crossings
fixed for accuracy

>>1412227
>Deportations under President Biden have hit their highest point in almost a decade. The number of removals conducted in 2024 by Immigration and Customs Enforcement - or ICE - has surpassed those conducted during the first Trump administration.
Yes.
~85% of the deportations were done by border patrol. They were the result of illegal entries
Only ~15% came from ice actually removing people from the country who were here illegally

>>1412224
My guy. How do I break this to you?

You will NEVER solve the illegal immigration issue with force. Even if you fudge the numbers and focus on encounters and stops. Or even if your wet dream occurs and they actually are stopped. The solution is momentary. Because the actual problem was never people coming over illegally the problem *IS* that people coming over illegally find gainful employment due to the desire the employer class has to maximize profits.

This problem is not going to be solved, satisfactorily, any time soon. So no dude. The illegals are not going to stop, they're not going to disappear. They're just going to hide more and become less obvious until society deems them more permissable. and in 30 more years some other asshole will pretend to solve the problem. And someone very much like you will also clap.

Just like drugs.

Because people like money, that is very literally what capitalism is about you commie.

>>1412227
Easy to rack up a deportation score when your strategy is waiting until they cross illegally and then immediately deporting them tho, ain't it?

Yeah it's counted as a deportation, sure. But if you reduce the number of illegal entries by 93% you can't really use that cheat code anymore, deportations have to come from the removal of the people who are already in the country illegally

>>1412230
>You will NEVER solve the illegal immigration issue with force
The current strategy seems to be stopping illegal immigration pretty well.
Honestly what I wish Trump would have done, or really any goddamn president over the last several decades, was just grant people some sort of long-term visa for family reasons, and then grant them citizenship after so many years in the country being good citizens and working.

I really don't like the whole idea of just deporting random family members from the country because they're illegally here, when they've been living here with family for years.

I'm all for deporting the ones who came here illegally though and then tried to file for asylum once they were caught, or the ones who committed crimes while here

>>1412231
>Yeah it's counted as a deportation, sure
Thanks for conceding. Have a good evening.

>>1412233
Ok sure. Have a nice night.

>>1412232
>The current strategy seems to be stopping illegal immigration pretty well.

This is a thought exercise anon. Not a statistics e-pene measuring contest.

Why are illegals illegals and what do they do when they get here that keeps their numbers growing? Did that go away? No?

So what does it matter if the numbers went down or show a decline? At various times during the drug war the numbers looked like they would go down. Then we had an opiod crisis. Now Gen z isn't super interested in hardcore drug use. And something else will happen. Because getting high is neat and humans like it.

The fundamental issue hasn't been touched so the problem can't possibly be solved now can it?

As for the rest of your post yeah that would be nice but since when does the US government actually solve practical problems with sensible solutions? The government we had was all about virtue signaling and the one we have now seems to be more concerned with triggering the libs by any means necessary. Even retarded means.

Meanwhile I just want my half filled shopping cart to not be $100+

>>1412240
Just saying numbers are numbers and they sometimes change is a real weird way of ignoring the measurable outcomes of actions, strategy, or policy.

>>1412244
you're ignoring what I'm saying because it makes sense and you don't like it.

The issue was not illegal border crossings or insufficient deportations. It's that a market exists for clandestine employment which leads to illegal border crossings and a rise in illegals.

What, if anything, has been done to drop the demand of this market?

>>1412246
>What, if anything, has been done to drop the demand of this market?
They've been arresting the employers who have been hiring illegals as well

>>1412246
>What, if anything, has been done to drop the demand of this market?
Not him, you're deliberately acting retarded now. Nobody is this stupid. He's gone through multiple fucking times, in multiple fucking threads, providing multiple fucking links, that show Trump going after employees that hire illegals. It's getting fucking annoying watching you repeat the same bullshit talking point that's been debunked over and over and over.

Fucking write it down you dickhead! Write it on a piece of paper: "Trump is going after employees that hire illegals."
Write it again.
Write it 50 times like you're back in school being the usual fuckup.

>>1412249
>>1412248
That only really targets small employers. Industrial employers like meat packers, furniture manufacturers and poultry farms shield themselves from tangible consequences through requiring fake ID's and SSN's. They don't face serious penalties beyond fines and good luck proving a CEO or board of directors systemically hired a bunch of illegals. It's easy enough to claim your company was lied to and defrauded when lying is a requirement for employment.

>>1412249
>"Trump is going after employees that hire illegals."
>Write it again.
>Write it 50 times like you're back in school being the usual fuckup.
Hey shitty chatbot
employees don't hire anything
why are you so fucking stupid

>>1412246
I'm sorry facts destroy your false narrative

>>1412256
He's probably phone posting. Large language models don't mess that stuff up. Phones however autocorrect horribly

>>1412251
The real irony is ICE recently raided and arrested like a third of the staff of a florida roofing company. Except the problem was, they weren't illegals. They had valid work visas. They stripped them of their work visas right before arrested them.

>>1412326
>ICE summarily revoked everyone's work visa at some Florida business
Source?

>>1412329
>https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/small-business-owner-says-ice-detained-a-third-of-his-employees/3634370/

>>1412230
People will only solve the immigration issue with force. They're not going to leave on their own, they're going to bitch and protest and finally get violent so they don't have to go back to their shitholes and that's not going to change.

The only realistic alternative is to kill everyone south of Brown and deport them in a box, which is ultimately what we're going to have to do to get rid of them. They're not going to be naturalized or integrated. Our elites are going into automation now, they no longer need the endless tide of browns to depress wages because soon there aren't going to be many wages to depress.

It doesn't end with the illegals, either. Next step is to elect a genuine crazy or a full fascist so we can get rid of the non-illegal browns. It'll be the end of democracy in this country and that's unfortunate, but since we can't all agree on who these rights were for, we're going to have to vote them out so all the brown people who consider themselves citizens flee the country on their own rather than having to be forced. Its the only realistic way to get rid of them all. Unless you want to try the Mass Graves solution, I suppose, but good luck barking up that tree.

>>1412333
Thanks. Assuming what their attorney says is true, this should not be happening. There is no reason to continue to detain someone with valid work visas or legal residency.
I'm suspicious of your claim that "ice revoked it on the spot", I'm wondering if it's more likely that they didn't have these documents available and that is why they were detained.

>>1412337
Its cute that you think you won't get kicked out of the country in favor of brown people

>>1412343
this goes into more detail.
>https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/roofers-detained-ice-lower-keys-work-permits/3634306/
Jesus christ. Their car was literally found abandoned on the side of the road. Identical to a fucking kidnapping. And even worse, they immediately shipped two of them off across the country to make it even harder for their families to get them back even though they have valid work permits (or at least they did before ICE arrested them)

This shit is what people are protesting against. This isn't immigration law enforcement, it's state sponsored kidnapping by unidentifiable agents in unmarked vehicles. It doesn't matter if you went the legal route because they don't care; they need to meet a quota.

>>1412344
Its cute that you think whites have lost their ability to genocide wide swathes of the world population just because you've had a few decades of laziness and corruption being the norm. Whites have always been a global minority. How do you think we got on top in the first place, missy man?

>>1412349
No one is stopping you from being the next Rittenhouse except yourself, and your crippling mental illness excluding you from buying guns

>>1412349
>Its cute that you think whites have lost their ability to genocide wide swathes of the world population just because you've had a few decades of laziness and corruption being the norm. Whites have always been a global minority. How do you think we got on top in the first place, missy man?
cute posturing. whites are nothing but impotent whiny little self victimizers. at any point where you are inconvenienced you sad little losers run to blame jews, women, leftists when all of your failures are your own.

>>1412365
>at any point where you are inconvenienced you sad little losers run to blame jews, women, leftists when all of your failures are your own
Isn't this the same as any leftist, black person, native, whatever blaming whites for their failures?
I mean, it's a two way street what you are saying.

Truth is, it probably doesn't matter which demographic line you use to chop up a population, there will always be some sort of grievance across that line. Poor people blaming rich people for being successful, rich people blaming poor people for being unsuccessful, Christians blaming Muslims, Muslims blaming Christians, Chinese blaming Americans, Americans blaming Chinese, whites blaming blacks, blacks blaming whites.

Newsflash. People who feel identity to any sort of demographic are likely to other people they feel are from an opposing demographic.

You just described the human condition.

>>1412256
>>1412299
Hey samefaggot, it's painfully obvious when none of your posts have punctuation.

>>1412149
You're getting easier and easier to distinguish.
>STD2X

>>1412382
That was actually two people. I don't think the post being replied to was a bot. I think it was someone who got hit with an incorrect autocorrect

>>1412045
..that is kind of how capitalism (and society) works..
the strikers will be starved until they give in. each fight the proletariat wins is in an underhanded way, each of which is removed in time once used.
a revolution (let's say velvet revolution) only happens because all the political parts are in place already. without it's just heathens in the streets and everyone suffers like the people in Emile Zola Marginal. if you want to influence society be wealthy and old money ig.

The only way to fix this is to kick all the democrats out of the federal government, raise taxes on blue states and give them no fed money until they just stop. Just stop the craziness. Not a single blue. As Jesus said: Give them nothing, and take from them EVERYTHING!

>>1412424
nerd

>>1412424
>As Jesus said: Give them nothing, and take from them EVERYTHING!
Jesus didn't say that. I don't think you read the source material.

Thread theme
https://youtu.be/tmqnCTM2j7M

>>1412424
>As Jesus said: Give them nothing, and take from them EVERYTHING!
>As Jesus said
Verbatim?
Chapter & verse or admit that you're a liar. As your J-boy didn't say that, you're either doubly going to hell as not only does he hate liars but especially those who lie about him, or this so-called 'Jesus' & 'God' don't exist and all your opinions are more than wrong.
Choose wisely.
>a certain someone who made fish sandwiches for thousands of people
>a certain someone who made the lame walk, made the blind see & made the sick well
Did he charge for his catering/healing services? Think very carefully before answering, as those very Blue state actions by him more than destroy all your wrong opinions.
>we know the answer >>1412424 will give, thus he doesn't have the right to think the way he does: a certain someone hates hypocrites
You have chosen... poorly.

>florida sheriff now saying they'll literally kill you if you throw bricks at them
Based

>someone in >>1412368 wanting those not exactly like him to be put in chicken suits and beaten to death then having his opinion beaten into nonexistence by b&hammers
>that anon - a rightard - so much as thinking of having that wrong opinion
Growing political violence of the right
>unpersoning a rightard for thoughtcrime
I'm afraid that you only have the right to agree with what happened to that wrongthinking rightard anon if you want the OP's opnion to be right. You wouldn't want all your opinions to proven more than wrong by disagreeing with that rightard anon's opinions being denied the right to exist here in 4chan, would you?

>>1412504
>and >>1412467 in >>1412368 is denied the right to have an opinion
based

>>1412508
I still see an opinion in that post.
Besides, there's nothing wrong with killing leftdingers. In fact, more leftatics should be killed.
Also, you should drink bleach so no one has to waste a bullet on you.

>>1411991 (OP)
>AI
Opinion discarded. U r gay.

>and >>1412509 is denied the right to have an opinion because of the growing political violence of the right
>what happened to >>1412509
based

It would be easier if everybody just calmed down.

Leftists would be better served by forming nonprofit worker cooperatives and doing charity work rather than rioting.

Like, they can form LLCs and structure them such that the workers own shares in the LLC.

>>1412528
Do you think you sound american?

>>1412529
Lets see:

You could
>smash some shit and go to prison or be killed and make most people hate you
>form worker cooperatives using existing legal frameworks but organized according to leftist principles

One is low iq, destructive, worthless. One is intelligent, productive, useful. If the leftist chooses option A, the leftists will simply destroy their own movements.

Have u noticed that rioting, in the past 30+ years has never produced any large scale political or structural changes?

>a few dumbasses riot
>go to prison or die
>justifies other side expanding police powers
>rinse and repeat

Also, I do not understand the leftist mentality on illegals when the use of immigrant labor structurally benefits large corporations.

>>1412534
>Have u noticed that rioting, in the past 30+ years has never produced any large scale political or structural changes?
Yeah just ignore any of the policy changes resulting from the events that caused them got it.

Riots are a symptom of the system failing more than anything you fucking retard.

>>1412535
What policy changes other than increased mass surveillance? Structurally, not much has changed and the divide between rich and poor has continued to increase.

Leftism has consistently failed in all of their goals in the US other than environmentalism.

>riots are a symptom of system failing

Mostly theyre a symptom of mass hysteria and achieve jack shit. Its not the 1960s.

>>1412536
Not him but you would have to be a mongolian sheep herder to not notice any of the policy changes. That's just about the only place in the world which hasn't been affected by Trump's illegal tariffs.

>>1412537
Which policy changes were a result of any leftist riot? Nothing since the CRA.

Largely all that American leftist rioting accomplished was to increase police militarization.

This is the same as what happened in 1930s germany. Antifa idiots with their rioting got the average worker + the business owners to agree with fascist policies just to make the chaos stop. Rioting and looting and violence will make the rest of the system unite against you and just imprison or kill you. Consistent failure pattern. No better than militia LARPers running around w their little guns innawoods.

>>1412538
Rioting is disorganized empty purposeless violence which the system will counter with organized violence. The system will even use criminal gangs to fuck you up.

>>1412538
>Which policy changes were a result of any leftist riot? Nothing since the CRA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_police_reforms_related_to_the_George_Floyd_protests

>>1412539
>>1412538
Rioting is a symptom of the system failing. If riots continue to happen over the same issue, the system has failed to address the problem. Why are you blaming the people for getting angry and not the policy decisions that have failed to address the root of the problem?

>>1412541
>>1412541
Continue riots if you want the military to step in. If police wont restore order the military will. Violent anarchists always lose to organized violence. Violent leftism in the US always leads to the system stepping in and cracking skulls. You will never have a successful leftist revolution in the US.

>>1412541
>the people
A small group of insurrectionary leftists are not "the people" and never were "the people".

The people wish to live peaceful lives in low crime areas.

>>1412544
Oh look, it's another woke right poster decrying fictional "violent leftism". You never see that on /news/.
>Continue riots if you want the military to step in.
I like how you're going to great pains to avoid discussing the actual reason why there are riots.

>>1412546
>if you protest government overreach you must be an "insurrectionary leftist".
kek

>>1412544
>rightard terrorists around/within the Capitol Building on 6th January 2021
Violent rightards always lose. Violent rightism in the US always leads to failure. Just ask >>1412467 and >>1412509 . In Soviet /news/ b&hammers crack violent rightist opinion skulls. Reality has a liberal bias. You will never have a post-WWII rightist dictatorship anywhere. Good

>>1412547
>fictional "violent leftism"
>fictional
kek

>>1412559
Let me guess, you (incorrectly) think Biden was a leftist and the Democrats are a leftist party.

>>1412562
Let me guess, you (incorrectly) think the people rioting in LA are right-wingers.

>>1412574
You don't have to be a partisan-brained kneejerker to riot over the removal of habeas corpus, correct. In fact it isn't a leftist or right wing position.

>>1412578
I'm going to take that as a "yes" from you.

>>1412582
You shouldn't because it isn't.

>>1412008
Prove it isn’t opportunist criminals who are using protest as cover or alphabet plants set up specifically to agitate, which it is. Trump wants skulls to crack as it’s the cheap promise to keep to his base.

>>1412578
But they are rioting over illegals from a home Depot parking lot being detained

>>1412607
They're rioting over Stephen Miller's racist immigration policies.

>>1412608
Enforcing immigration law is racist?
How so?

>>1412613
See >>1412611
>Paul told reporters of Miller, adding that the senior aide’s openness to suspending habeas corpus — which allows people to challenge their detention in court — “should preclude [him] from holding high office or being an adviser to anyone in high office.”

> Leftist terrorism

You'll have an easier time finding gay men who eat pussy.

Maga kik jamesthele2

>>1411991 (OP)
99% of political violence in America has always been from leftists. There are no guard rails on the left and they constantly dehumanize everyone who doesn't think like them. They even dehumanize babies to justify murdering their own kids (abortion).

>>1412000
Leftists think "peaceable assembly" means looting and firebombing any store that doesn't have "black owned" or "minority owned" on the front of it. They literally did it for months on end and justified it the entire time it was being done, after Fentanyl Floyd OD'd on drugs like a loser career criminal.

They also firebomb and attempt mass shootings at pro-life groups, clinics, Christian groups, and churches.


They also lie constantly about everything because they're godless amoral trash people.

Those white rightards outside/inside the Capitol Building on 6th January 2021 are worse than mere insurrectionists but are terrorists. Timothy McVeigh. QED.
>>1412467 and >>1412509 prove that 101% of all rightists are violent terrorists or they wouldn't have been b&hammered for their violent wrongthink.

>article about "leftist violence" which is mostly online shitposting.
>2 democratic lawmakers and their spouses shot today, one couple dead.
Really gets the noggin joggin

>>1412062
Thanks for admitting you're a delusional conspiracy theorist.

>>1412032
It wasn't about the election not "going his way", it was about the legitimacy of the election being stolen. Votes don't actually matter, of course, but many people still believe they do.