US Supreme Court upholds Tennessee law banning youth transgender care - /news/ (#1414354) [Archived: 354 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:12:53 AM No.1414354
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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-rules-against-challenge-youth-transgender-care-ban-2025-06-18/

WASHINGTON, June 18 (Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court upheld a Republican-backed ban in Tennessee on gender-affirming medical care for transgender minors on Wednesday in a setback for transgender rights that could bolster efforts by states to defend other measures targeting transgender people.

The court, in a 6-3 ruling powered by its conservative justices, decided that the ban does not violate the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment promise of equal protection, as challengers to the law had argued. The ruling affirmed a lower court's decision that backed Tennessee's law, which bars medical treatments such as puberty blockers and hormones for people under age 18 experiencing gender dysphoria. The Supreme Court's three liberal justices dissented.

"Tennessee concluded that there is an ongoing debate among medical experts regarding the risks and benefits associated with administering puberty blockers and hormones to treat gender dysphoria, gender identity disorder and gender incongruence. (The law's) ban on such treatments responds directly to that uncertainty," conservative Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the court's majority.

Gender dysphoria is the clinical diagnosis for significant distress that can result from an incongruence between a person's gender identity and the sex assigned at birth.

Chase Strangio, a transgender American Civil Liberties lawyer who represented some of the challengers in the case, called the ruling "a devastating loss for transgender people, our families and everyone who cares about the Constitution."

Transgender rights as an issue has become a major flashpoint in the U.S. culture wars. Since returning to office in January, Republican President Donald Trump has taken a hardline stance against transgender rights.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:13:54 AM No.1414355
Wednesday's ruling will have a broad impact as Tennessee's law is one of 25 such policies
, opens new tab enacted by conservative state lawmakers around the United States. U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi, a Trump appointee, in a social media post applauded the ruling and encouraged other states to "follow Tennessee's lead and enact similar legislation to protect our kids."

Various other state restrictions have been enacted in recent years targeting transgender people, from bathroom use to sports participation, some limited to minors but others extending to adults.

Liberal Justice Sonia Sotomayor expressed dismay that the Supreme Court largely deferred to the state legislature's policy choices in upholding the ban.

"By retreating from meaningful judicial review exactly where it matters most, the court abandons transgender children and their families to political whims. In sadness, I dissent," Sotomayor wrote, joined by fellow liberal Justices Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson.

The Justice Department under Democratic former President Joe Biden's administration had challenged the law. Trump's administration told the Supreme Court in February that Tennessee's ban was not unlawful, reversing the government's position.

Tennessee's law, passed in 2023, aims to encourage minors to "appreciate their sex" by prohibiting healthcare workers from prescribing puberty blockers and hormones to help them live as "a purported identity inconsistent with the minor's sex."

Providers can be sued and face fines and professional discipline under the law for any violations. The law allows these medications to be used for any other purpose, including to address congenital defects, early-onset puberty or other conditions.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:14:55 AM No.1414356
Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti welcomed Wednesday's ruling, saying that the state legislature had "voted to protect kids from irreversible decisions they cannot yet fully understand."

Several plaintiffs - three transgender minors and their parents, as well as a doctor who provides the type of care at issue - sued to challenge the Tennessee law's legality. Biden's Justice Department subsequently intervened in the lawsuit, opposing Tennessee's law.

The challengers argued that the law discriminates against these adolescents based on sex and transgender status, violating the 14th Amendment.

'DIGNITY AND EQUALITY'

Some transgender people gathered at a church near the Supreme Court building and denounced the ruling.

"I am myself trans, and I am very concerned about efforts to erase transgender people from public life," Nicky Sundt said in an interview.
The ACLU's Strangio said, "We are as determined as ever to fight for the dignity and equality of every transgender person."

Tennessee has said it is banning "risky, unproven gender-transition interventions," pointing to "scientific uncertainty," tightened restrictions in some European countries and "firsthand accounts of regret and harm" from people who discontinue or reverse treatments.

Medical associations, noting that gender dysphoria is associated with higher rates of suicide, have said gender-affirming care can be life-saving, and that long-term studies show its effectiveness.

Lucas Cameron-Vaughn, a lawyer at the ACLU of Tennessee, said, "This ruling creates a class of people who politicians believe deserve healthcare, and a class of people who do not."

A federal judge blocked the law as likely violating the 14th Amendment but the Cincinnati-based 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals later reversed the judge's preliminary injunction.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:15:45 AM No.1414357
>>1414354 (OP)
Their exact ruling makes no fucking sense. They literally acknowledged it IS illegal to discriminate based on gender identity... but IS legal to ban things for use for gender dysphoria? That's like saying "you can't ban people from this thing for being gay, that's discriminatory. But you can ban them for being attracted to the same sex."
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:15:57 AM No.1414358
In a June 11-12 Reuters/Ipsos poll of Americans, 53% of respondents said they supported "laws that prevent transgender children under the age of 18 from getting medical treatment related to gender identity and gender transitioning." Another 28% opposed such laws and the rest were unsure or did not answer the question.

Among Republicans, support for such laws was at 57% and opposition at 28%. Among Democrats, support was at 23% and opposition at 54%.

The Supreme Court on May 6 permitted Trump's administration to implement his ban on transgender people in the military while legal challenges play out. Trump has taken actions targeting "gender ideology" and declaring that the U.S. government will recognize two sexes: male and female. Trump issued executive orders curtailing gender-affirming medical treatments for youth under 19 and excluding transgender girls and women from female sports, while rescinding Biden's orders combating discrimination against gay and transgender people.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:22:32 AM No.1414370
>>1414357
Shut up faggot. Only leftist subhumans want to mutilate children and drastically increase the chance they'll kill themselves.
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TransCanada highway rider
6/19/2025, 6:54:28 AM No.1414381
>>1414370
Why do you hate me so much anon? Why do you want to genocide trans people? Perhaps if you were more secure in your own sexual identity, you wouldn't want to do this,.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:03:46 AM No.1414385
>>1414381
>Why do you hate me so much anon?
Because you want to turn children into trannies. It's not rocket science.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:05:30 AM No.1414386
>>1414370
>drastically increase the chance they'll kill themselves
So what you're doing by taking away all the resources to properly treat gender dysphoria?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:10:23 AM No.1414387
>>1414386
What's wrong with letting them transition in adulthood?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:11:13 AM No.1414388
>>1414386
>to properly treat gender dysphoria?
>implying
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:15:34 AM No.1414389
>>1414387
>>1414388
Hey which party is shutting down suicide hotlines again?

>What's wrong with letting them transition in adulthood?
Would you wait until your child is 18 to deal with their issues? Shockingly, going "yeah yeah, we'll get help for your depression when your older" isn't going to help very much. Not to mention puberty tends to make things much fucking worse for people suffering from gender dysphoria because their body is now directly growing against their own wishes in a way they cannot reverse.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:18:57 AM No.1414390
>>1414389
But if they take the medication before puberty then it will give them sterility and screw up their body even more.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:55:01 AM No.1414392
>>1414390
Yeah I'm pretty sure if they want to take puberty blockers, they're fine with that if it means not having to spend their life in a body they don't feel comfortable in. Plus puberty blockers don't make you sterile permanently, they just block sperm/egg production while in use.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:11:04 AM No.1414393
>>1414392
>Plus puberty blockers don't make you sterile permanently
1) That's blatantly not true.
2) Kids can't make informed decisions about their healthcare.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:30:31 AM No.1414394
>>1414389
>Would you wait until your child is 18 to deal with their issues?
Uh yeah, that's how adulthood works. You have to wait until you're 18 before you make permanent, life-altering bad decisions.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:32:04 PM No.1414423
>>1414394
That isn't how adulthood works.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:33:44 PM No.1414425
>>1414393
>2) Kids can't make informed decisions about their healthcare.
Neither can legislators. Glad you think this shit should be left to doctors and parents.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 2:03:35 PM No.1414426
Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness. To treat it correctly, one must correct the brains false perception, not irrevocably mutilate perfectly healthy organs.

Just like other forms of dysmorphia the biggest obstacle to administering proper treatment is the patient themself. Like an Anorexic, the Transgenders malfunctioning brain has them perceiving something that just flat out isn't true. And they will fight tooth and nail to resist proper treatment, for the dame reason anorexics must at times be physically restrained and force fed through a tube lest they starve themselves to death.

People suffering from gender dysphoria are a danger to themselves. They need to be institutionalized until they understand there is no changing their chromosomes.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:55:42 PM No.1414439
>>1414423
Oh do go on. Elaborate.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 3:59:47 PM No.1414440
>>1414425
>Glad you think this shit should be left to doctors and parents.
Apparently they can't make informed decisions either, which is why we have people like Jazz Jennings being ID'd as trans as young as two fucking years old. You subhumans make me sick.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:11:09 PM No.1414441
>>1414440
your opinion is invalid, shill
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:32:19 PM No.1414444
>>1414357
It's medical malpractice, not discrimination. We're not going to let you pretend this is science
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:35:04 PM No.1414445
>>1414444
you're not american, white, or scientifically literate
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:52:55 PM No.1414447
>>1414440
Funny how Jazz is still perfectly fine literally 20+ years later.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:54:16 PM No.1414448
>>1414393
>1) That's blatantly not true.
Literally is, not my fault you like jumping into arguments where you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 4:57:07 PM No.1414449
>>1414394
>Sorry, can't let you deal with your depression until you're 18
>Sorry, can't let you deal with your eating disorder until you're 18
>Sorry, can't let you deal with your ADHD until you're 18
>Sorry, can't let you deal with your attachment disorder until you're 18
Perfectly reasonable argument. Because as we all know, kids are basically just goofy little automatons who cannot actually have any real issues until they turn 18.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:04:05 PM No.1414451
>>1414449
Treating mental illness is through councelling and therapy. Not mutilating and sterilizing kids cause of 'a feeling'.
Trooning out isn't medical. Period.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:08:56 PM No.1414454
>>1414451
Yeah counselling and therapy have determined the treatment for dysphoria is transitioning. No matter how much you cope on this face; you can't therapy someone out of being trans any more than you can therapy someone out of being gay.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:10:01 PM No.1414455
>>1414449
>sorry, I can't let you chop your dick off to "deal with your depression" until you're 18
>sorry, I have to put you on hormone blockers to "deal with your eating disorder" because we all know diets aren't effective (why are there so many fat trannies?)
>Sorry, I have to dress you up like a girl to treat your ADHD because there's no form of medicine designed to treat that
>Sorry, I have to help cure your attachment disorder by detaching parts of your body and making sure you have an even harder time emotionally attaching to people
Great fucking arguments there faggot.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:10:29 PM No.1414456
>>1414454
>therapy have determined the treatment for dysphoria is transitioning
Lol. No they haven't, you sick freak.
Then why are there so many de-transitioners and many troons killing themselves even post transition?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:12:24 PM No.1414458
>>1414455
>because there's no form of medicine designed to treat that
wait hold on do you think ADHD meds don't exist?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:13:31 PM No.1414459
>>1414456
>So many
1% of a 1%?

Also ironically you are your own self-fulfilling prophecy.
>Why are so many trans people killing themselves after I tell them they're sick freaks and groomers for existing
>Obviously this is why they're sick freaks and groomers
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:18:46 PM No.1414461
>>1414458
My brother in Christ, are you retarded? Do you not know what sarcasm is?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:22:36 PM No.1414463
>>1414370
>Take these meds so that your body doesn't further change in a way that is deeply distressing to you
>AHHH YOU'RE MUTILATING THE CHILDREN
Hormones and puberty blockers are largely reversible and are only given under a doctor's supervision after diagnosis and usually 6 months to a year of therapy minimum. Your sick fantasy that leftists are chopping off 13 year olds dicks exists only in your mind.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:25:38 PM No.1414464
>>1414461
Anon you do realize the whole point of the original post was that you don't wait until someone is 18 to try adhd meds, right?
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:32:23 PM No.1414467
>>1414463
>Hormones and puberty blockers are largely reversible
Oh yes, tell me more how there's no lasting effects from taking puberty blockers that doesn't completely fuck up your life.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:54:02 PM No.1414475
>>1414467
you know from experience?
sounds like you got tricked into transitioning and regret cutting your dick off
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:06:53 PM No.1414479
>>1414463
ngl it's pretty fucked up letting a child go behind their parents back and fuck up their anatomy for the rest of their adult life by forgoing puberty in favor of the current hs trans fad.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:13:08 PM No.1414481
>>1414467
No more than any other medication, and definitely gonna cause nowhere near as many issues as your body betraying you.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:20:00 PM No.1414482
>>1414481
>No more than any other medication
You can't honestly believe that stopping puberty during the period where your body experiences puberty has no more side effects than "any other medication"

If you believe that you are a fool
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Chatgpt
6/19/2025, 6:23:38 PM No.1414483
>>1414481
Long-Term Effects and Considerations

These are areas of ongoing research and debate, but some key concerns include:

1. Bone Density

GnRH agonists reduce estrogen/testosterone, which are important for bone development during adolescence.

Long-term use lead to reduced bone mineral density, potentially increasing the risk of osteoporosis later in life.

Bone health may recover when hormone replacement (e.g., testosterone or estrogen) is introduced.


2. Fertility

Puberty blockers themselves do not cause permanent infertility however, long-term suppression of puberty, especially if followed by cross-sex hormones, may affect fertility if reproductive maturation never occurs.

Fertility preservation (e.g., egg or sperm banking) may be discussed before starting hormones.


3. Brain Development and Cognition

Adolescence is a key time for brain development, including executive function, emotional regulation, and social processing.

Some concerns exist about how long-term suppression of sex hormones might impact these processes

4. Growth and Height

Puberty blockers pause the growth spurt that occurs during puberty.

This may affect final adult height, especially if blockers are continued for a long time before initiating sex hormones.


5. Psychological Effects

Some critics raise concerns about long-term satisfaction and the difficulty of informed consent at a young age.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:27:05 PM No.1414486
>>1414483
Wow, its almost like deciding to transition as a kid and get hormone blockers requires sign on from the parents, their kids, and their doctor.
Like it does now.
But pearl clutching internet faggots are angry that families can make their own private health decisions.
Because nothing says, "I value privacy" by focusing on someone elses private matters and demanding they do what you want.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:29:33 PM No.1414489
>>1414486
Wow it's almost as line you pivoted so hard from "no side effects" to "parental consent" that your retarded kankles exploded into cheetoh dust
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:31:51 PM No.1414490
>>1414486
Wow it's almost as like you pivoted so hard away from "no side effects" and to "parental consent" that your retarded kankles exploded into cheetoh dust
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:39:14 PM No.1414492
>>1414483
Lot of mays here.

>>1414482
The irony is the mental side effects of experiencing puberty with gender dysphoria is gonna cause a lot more suffering than "oooooh, you may have to take a calcium supplement... or even be a little shorter...!"
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:40:15 PM No.1414493
>>1414490
There does not exist a medication without side effects. The problem is assuming that this is somehow worse than forcing someone to experience their body betraying them permanently.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:43:27 PM No.1414494
>>1414486
Wow it's almost like you pivoted from "trust the science" to "ignore the science muh choice" in one post.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:44:38 PM No.1414495
>>1414494
I'm sorry, who's ignoring the studies saying transitioning is the objectively best treatment?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:45:56 PM No.1414496
>>1414495
Probably the same retarded faggot you're arguing with that thinks you're me, or I'm you.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:54:10 PM No.1414497
>>1414493
This doesn't exist. Your body can't betray you. It's 100% mental illness
>>1414495
Those studies are fake. They are not science. They don't follow the scientific method
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:55:21 PM No.1414498
>>1414497
Spazzing out because someone tricked you into cutting off your cock isn't any reason to lie on the internet.
I'm sure they can get you a dildo to screw into your worthless crotch hole to feel like a man.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:57:22 PM No.1414499
>>1414498
You will never be a woman
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:58:42 PM No.1414500
>>1414499
Correct, I've been and will be a proud man all my life.
You'll continue to be a weird tranny fetishist all your life though
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:03:19 PM No.1414502
>>1414497
>Those studies are fake. They are not science. They don't follow the scientific method
>Hmm, we compared the happiness and suicide rate of people with gender dysphoria who transitioned and those who didn't
>For some reason people who transitioned reported being happier and less likely to kill themselves than those with gender dysphoria who didn't
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:09:00 PM No.1414503
>>1414502
but what about all the people who reported that they had to angrily explain to their children that it was a MAN wearing a DRESS and thats WRONG because if MEN could wear DRESSES then OP (a gigantic FAGGOT) would be wearing DRESSES all the TIME and that would be personally liberating for them but its WRONG because being a FAGGOT is WRONG
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:09:13 PM No.1414504
>>1414502
Happiness is a subjective measurement and any study like this can easily be cherry picked to get the preferred outcome. You wouldn't accept this for anything else
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:11:19 PM No.1414505
>>1414504
so you're BTFO but still trying to fight
'happiness is irrelevant' is a pretty shitty take
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:11:27 PM No.1414506
>>1414504
you're objectively a faggot who always loses arguments
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:19:26 PM No.1414507
>>1414504
>Happiness is a subjective measurement
Holy shit this cope.

>Well they're actually all MISERABLE because they SHOULD BE
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:22:49 PM No.1414508
>>1414507
But consider, the local schizo shill is saying the whole idea of the United States isn't founded on its citizens being happy.
This holds up to scrutiny until you read the first sentence in the Declaration of Independence.

Maybe the schizo shill really is an unamerican faggot then
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:40:32 PM No.1414511
As we can see ITT, the greatest threat to people suffering from gender dysphoria are their supposed "allies."

They point to the lack of side effects when puberty blockers are used to treat PRECIOUS PUBERTY to insist that they are safe in all cases. That's just like saying chemotherapy is an acceptable treatment for blisters. They are also completely unaware that "puberty blockers" are the exact same medication used to chemically castrate sex offenders. And yet they accuse others of being scientifically illiterate.

The political pressure they apply creates a chilling effect, suppressing proper research that strictly adheres to the scientific method and floods academia with garbage opinion pieces that cannot be replicated.

In a few decades this transition craze will be recognized as the latest example of wide spread medical malpractice, just like when ADD was massively overdiagnosed in children.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:43:09 PM No.1414512
>>1414511
>PRECIOUS PUBERTY
so you're a pedophile
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:44:01 PM No.1414513
>>1414493
>experience their body betraying them permanently.
You have mental illness.
Troonery is a *literally* classified as a psychological condition under every medical system, no medical system lists it as a physiological disorder
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:45:19 PM No.1414514
>>1414512
lol no. I just misspelled precocious.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:46:41 PM No.1414515
>>1414514
in a freudian slip to announce you're a pedophile
were you chemically castrated? It would explain why you're so personally angry about it
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:50:17 PM No.1414516
>>1414515
Lol. Kys troon
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:54:26 PM No.1414519
Consider this: all throughout human history people have been crossdressers. Some cultures accepted it more or less than others

But it was not until just the 70s that a doctor named John Money wrote books about how he sexually abused two children. One of them had a botched circumcision and Money had the child get an artificial vagina via surgery at the age of 22 months, and then Money spent the rest of the child's life literally gaslighting him into thinking he was a woman (until age 14 he realized he was a man who had been lied to his whole life and mutilated by this doctor), and also sexually abusing this child and his brother until they both killed themselves.

And then he wrote a book on it, and mentally ill people for some god forsaken reason took him seriously.

Gender dysphoria and sexual reassignment was literally invented by an absolute monster
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:59:21 PM No.1414520
>>1414519
Are you retarded enough to believe this is true, or are you just shilling?
Both seem true because you're a lying pedophile
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:31:14 PM No.1414521
>>1414519
Look up Māhū you fucking retard.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:41:25 PM No.1414522
>>1414521
Oh I didn't know māhū had a tradition of castrating young boys or undergoing medical procedures to change their body, I thought they fell under my statement of "all throughout human history people have been crossdressers. Some cultures accepted it more or less than others"

>>1414520
I'm sorry you hate facts. John Money was a monster and tried to normalize his abuse of children. The scariest part is that people like you fell for it.
Everything I stated is a fact. 100000% true.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:45:33 PM No.1414525
>>1414520
David Reimer. Botched circumcision. Money gave him a fake vagina at age 22 months. He then proceeded to gaslight David into believing he was a woman, despite David saying he felt like a man, and wrote about his sexual abuse sessions where he has David's brother simulate sex with David, before they even hit puberty. David found out he's been lied to his whole life and was a man at age 14.
Both brothers died by suicide.

Money, the father of gender reassignment surgery is a monster
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:52:35 PM No.1414526
>>1414522
>>1414525
So doctors can't force a kid to believe they're a gender they're not?
Is that the stance you're going with? Because it sounds like there's no danger in doctors or trannys convincing kids and we should trust the kids when they claim they're the wrong gender and go through hormone blockers and everything.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 8:56:22 PM No.1414527
>>1414525
Not only does David Reimer prove it's fucking impossible to force a gender identity onto someone, but you also neglect that he lived for 20 years after that and his suicide might be more tangentially related to his wife leaving him, him losing his job, and his brother dying not from suicide, but from an accidental overdose of antidepressants all around the same time.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:00:30 PM No.1414529
>>1414522
>>1414525
Except John Money wasn't even the inventor of gender reassignment surgery. The first reported example was 1904. The first US case was in 1952. Ironically, the recipient of it was actually a celebrity who lived a happy life as an open transwoman until she died of lung cancer in her 60s.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:17:45 PM No.1414531
>>1414526
>>1414527
>>1414529
wrong, wrong wrong
you're doing logic wrong
stop paying attention to the wrong parts of John Money's problems
this is supposed to make you think transgender people are mentally ill, not reinforce liberal beliefs
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:45:58 PM No.1414534
>>1414529
>Didn't refute any of the important parts of what was said. Focus instead on the first sex change operation in history.
Ok sure. He didn't invent it, he just wrote books popularizing his abuse of children and justifying sex change as a medically acceptable way to abuse children into committing suicide .
I stand corrected
Replies: >>1414536 >>1414537 >>1414538
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:47:47 PM No.1414535
>>1414531
>>1414529
David Reimer. Botched circumcision. Money gave him a fake vagina at age 22 months. He then proceeded to gaslight David into believing he was a woman, despite David saying he felt like a man, and wrote about his sexual abuse sessions where he has David's brother simulate sex with David, before they even hit puberty. David found out he's been lied to his whole life and was a man at age 14.
Both brothers died by suicide.

Money, the godfather of the concept of gender identity is a monster

Better now, faggots?
Replies: >>1414536 >>1414537
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:49:50 PM No.1414536
>>1414534
>>1414535
>LALALALALALALALALALA
>we didn't just torpedo our own arguments and prove that transgender surgery is valid
>LALALALALALALALALALALALA
You're not going to recover in this thread
Replies: >>1414541
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:51:44 PM No.1414537
>>1414534
The trans community fucking reviles Money and his pseudo-science. Literally the only person who holds him as any kind of authority on the subject are you retards.

>>1414535
Again, keep ignoring the context of the suicide. And also that the other brother didn't kill himself intentionally, he died of an overdose.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:52:59 PM No.1414538
>>1414534
See >>1414527

What happened to Reimer was fucked up, but not only does it prove forcing a gender identity is impossible, but saying it's the only possible factor in his suicide ignores the entire circumstances of his death.
Replies: >>1414542
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:56:22 PM No.1414540
This thread reminds me of
https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/flat-earther-proves-world-round
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:00:48 PM No.1414541
>>1414536
Kek. You seem dilated, faggot. Do facts hurt you that much?
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:01:51 PM No.1414542
>>1414538
>but saying it's the only possible factor in his suicide ignores the entire circumstances of his death.
Every child involved in this experiment of Moneys involving gential mutilation and gender identity committed suicide. 100% suicide rate.
Replies: >>1414544
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:10:15 PM No.1414544
>>1414542
His brother didn't even kill himself. He died from an anti-depressant overdose, not an intentional suicide. And again, ignoring the rest of the circumstances.

Right now you're effectively arguing the equivalents of:
>Did you know every female actor who played a daughter of the family in Poltergeist died prematurely? That's a 100% morality rate. They all have to be related to this and nothing else.
Replies: >>1414546 >>1414549
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:18:01 PM No.1414546
>>1414544
>His brother didn't even kill himself. He died from an anti-depressant overdose, not an intentional suicide.
Do you know how retarded this sounds?
Replies: >>1414547
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:18:56 PM No.1414547
>>1414546
There's a very hard difference between killing yourself intentionally and accidentally you fucking retard.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:25:00 PM No.1414548
Takeaways from this thread:
Kids can't be convinced to identify as a gender if they don't want to
Doctors and Parents can't gaslight kids kids into identifying a gender they aren't
Ignorant white retards trying to prove a point end up hurting kids and causing their suicides
Allowing children to transition into the gender they think they are is ultimately the right move.

Good on the local shill for ultimately admitting that being Transexual is okay
ChatGPT
6/19/2025, 10:28:13 PM No.1414549
>>1414544
It appears you're asking about Brian Reimer from the well-documented "John/Joan" case involving his twin brother, David Reimer.

What happened to Brian Reimer?

Brian Reimer, the identical twin of David (born Bruce Peter Reimer), tragically died — by suicide.

He took his own life on July 1, 2002, reportedly from an antidepressant overdose [+13 sources]
Replies: >>1414550
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:29:28 PM No.1414550
>>1414549
Bro actually citing google ai instead of doing actual research.
Replies: >>1414551
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:30:36 PM No.1414551
>>1414550
Not my fault you are blatantly wrong.
Moneys experiments into curing gender identity issues with sex change resulted in a 100% suicide rate
Replies: >>1414552
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:35:14 PM No.1414552
>>1414551
Literally the only source I can find that says Brian committed suicide also misidentifies him as dying from overdosing on schizophrenia meds, not anti-depressants as was actually the case.

Not to mention citing a "100% suicide rate" on "experiments" when you're actually talking about a single case with two people involved is not how statistics work. Money was retarded, but so are you.
Replies: >>1414553 >>1414554
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:49:40 PM No.1414553
>>1414552
They think they're trolling you.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:49:48 PM No.1414554
>>1414552
Why does pointing out the origins of gender identity theory make you so angry? I think I know why...
Replies: >>1414555 >>1414556
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:57:03 PM No.1414555
>>1414554
Thinking Money is the origin of gender identity theory is like thinking Andrew Wakefield is the origin of the modern autism spectrum.
Replies: >>1414562
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:58:58 PM No.1414556
>>1414554
its okay to be transgender, and your mutilated dick is valid.
maybe one day you'll figure that out, you're already halfway there since you can only attack trans as a concept by deliberately lying and misrepresenting the truth.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:20:58 PM No.1414562
>>1414555
>Money advanced the use of more accurate terminology in sex research, coining the terms gender role and sexual orientation.[2][3]
Its like you can't stop being wrong lmao
Replies: >>1414563
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:22:47 PM No.1414563
>>1414562
Wow, that sure is a passage that doesn't align with the words you just said!

Did you know Simpsons was the first to coin the phrase "yoink"? Before the Simpsons aired, there was no concept of comically stealing something in animation.
Replies: >>1414568 >>1414574
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:40:38 PM No.1414568
>>1414563
Black people were treated unfairly for years as slaves before Lincoln, a white man, set them free.
On behalf of white people everywhere, You're Welcome!
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:04:35 AM No.1414574
>>1414563
>the origins of gender identity theory
>Money advanced the use of more accurate terminology in sex research, coining the terms gender role and sexual orientation.[2][3]
Yup it's exactly what I said.
You can't stop being wrong lmao
Replies: >>1414576
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:06:37 AM No.1414576
>>1414574
>Guys he coined two terms, that basically means the whole thing
Shockingly the concept of gender roles and sexual orientation existed prior to Money using those terms for them. And coming up with those terms is about the only thing of value that fucker did with his life.
Replies: >>1414577 >>1414578
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:08:18 AM No.1414577
>>1414576
Now you're just being pedantic as fuck.
Go write a love letter to your hero Money, maybe if you'll lucky his science will be used to make your children commit suicide too
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:09:43 AM No.1414578
>>1414576
Now you're just being pedantic as fuck.
Go write a love letter to your hero Money, maybe if you're lucky his science will be used to make your children commit suicide too
Replies: >>1414579
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:16:37 AM No.1414579
>>1414578
You're just proving more and more that you understand how you're lying about Money and that your own arguments against transsexualism are debunked
keep on clowning, we know you're a secret trans ally :)
Replies: >>1414582 >>1414594
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:37:10 AM No.1414580
You fags really want to die on the hill of sterilizing and mutilating children.
Replies: >>1414582 >>1414586
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:40:44 AM No.1414582
>>1414580
see >>1414579
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:16:05 AM No.1414586
>>1414580
I wouldn't care either way, I just want you people to stop whining about it constantly like it's the most important issue.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:39:52 AM No.1414594
>>1414579
Money will kill your children for you one day, if you just keep praising him
Replies: >>1414597
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 1:56:07 AM No.1414597
>>1414594
Whose praising Money?
This is just another deflection to avoid talking about how you understand that Transexualism is valid.
You're fucked. Its in your head now.
Replies: >>1414599
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:07:17 AM No.1414599
>>1414597
Lots of people seem to get upset when someone points out that the founder of the John Hopkins Gender Identity Clinic, and a leading figure in trans medicine abused children to the point of suicide and mutilated children's genitalia as young as 22 months old
Replies: >>1414600
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:22:59 AM No.1414600
>>1414599
No ones glorifying them.
Too bad his story shows that kids can't be pressured or gaslit into accepting a gender that isn't their own, which validates transitioning as a child and undercuts all your retarded arguments for 'protecting children'
Which you understand, and you avoid, because it undermines your shilling.
Keep validating trans kids Queen!
Replies: >>1414601 >>1414611
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:25:52 AM No.1414601
>>1414600
esl
Replies: >>1414602
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:27:49 AM No.1414602
>>1414601
stop copying me
Replies: >>1414605
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:36:31 AM No.1414605
>>1414602
she's just angry that she secretly validates transexuals despite being programmed by her masters to hate them.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:52:46 AM No.1414611
>>1414600
>Too bad his story shows that kids can't be pressured or gaslit into accepting a gender that isn't their own
All his story proves is that chopping off genitalia on children who don't want it is and leads to suicide.
It doesn't actually say anything about how harmful it is when a child wants it done
Replies: >>1414613
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:15:18 AM No.1414613
>>1414611
You're trying so hard
But you're still a trans ally at heart because you understand.
Its obvious you understand, despite how hard you're struggling.
Replies: >>1414627
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:12:48 AM No.1414627
>>1414613
I am a trans ally. I fully support them doing whatever makes them happy. I simply don't conversion therapy for children, or children taking hormones behind their parents backs.
I also think that that wave of trans we've had in the last decade was mostly the result of environmental pressure rather than innate behaviors, but that's another debate
Replies: >>1414651
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:43:20 AM No.1414651
>>1414627
>children taking hormones behind their parents backs.
not sure where this is happening outside of your diseased mind, shill
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:11:19 AM No.1414654
ITT: trans "allies" pretending they don't understand gender dysphoria us 100% a mental illness that should be treated as such, and instead argue that "why shouldn't people be allowed to irrevocably mutilate their bodies if they falsely believe it will make them happy?"

Well, anorexics will be happy if they can loose just five more pounds.

Anyone advocating for allowing the mentally ill to destroy themselves is a murderer. Any "Doctor" going along with this crap needs their to loose their license at least, and their names spoken in the the same breath as Mengele for all time.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:38:12 AM No.1414675
>>1414444
Fucking holy quads of the undeniable truth!
Replies: >>1414677
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:07:46 PM No.1414677
>>1414675
you lost, samefag
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 4:57:23 PM No.1414690
>>1414444
Good post
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 5:06:01 PM No.1414691
local shills sure are angry that they destroyed their own arguments in this thread
but now we know that the local shill understands that kids can't be pressured or gaslit into accepting a gender that isn't their own
So all this 'peer pressure' or 'doctors are gaslighting kids' bs is out the window and you know its not a mental illness
Replies: >>1414699
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:11:17 PM No.1414699
>>1414691
>and you know its not a mental illness
Weird, because it's defined as one by the medical community that requires medical intervention so they don't kill themselves. It has a full entry in the DSM describing It's symptoms and treatments. It's like you have literally no idea what you are talking about
Replies: >>1414703
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:33:31 PM No.1414703
>>1414699
You're still seething about doctors and parents and other transexuals not being able to gaslight children into chopping off their dicks, aren't you?
Replies: >>1414704
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:35:07 PM No.1414704
>>1414703
You have repeatedly proven you have no idea what you are talking about
Replies: >>1414708
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:38:04 PM No.1414706
>>1414357
the same reason kids can't get tattoos. It's a permanent life altering decision that mutilates the genitals and ruins ability to procreate. They should also ban underage male circumcision.
Replies: >>1414721 >>1414776
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:39:36 PM No.1414707
>>1414381
no one is geocoding trans people. Killing themselves because we won't let kids get permanently mutiliated isnt genocide and saying that it is really disrespects the actual victims of genodcide around the world.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 6:40:01 PM No.1414708
>>1414704
Look at you, denying it with no proof after that point was repeatedly proven in this thread.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:15:44 PM No.1414716
>>1414381
>saying a man in a dress isn't a woman is literal genocide
kek. Good one.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:44:34 PM No.1414721
>>1414706
Cool it with the antisemitism bro
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:44:16 AM No.1414771
>>1414354 (OP)
Doesn't op pic pretty much represent the overall general composition of the US?
Replies: >>1414775 >>1414791
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:50:09 AM No.1414775
>>1414771
No.
Replies: >>1414798
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 2:55:08 AM No.1414776
>>1414706
>Generally, most states require individuals to be 18 years old to get a tattoo. However, some states allow minors to get tattooed with parental or guardian consent, while others prohibit tattooing minors altogether
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:22:11 AM No.1414791
>>1414771
Nah, blacks are still overrepresented, same as every single other crime.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:29:28 AM No.1414793
Trannys BTFO
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 5:02:48 AM No.1414798
>>1414775
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045224
I guess you're right
Relative to general population, Whites are underrepresented in sexual abuse crimes by 30%, blacks are roughly equivalent to their overall makeup of the US, native Americans are 1200% overrepresented in sexual abuse crimes, Hispanic are underrepresented by about 35% and Asians are somewhere very low
These are all relative percentages btw. 1200% native American means they are 1% of the population but 12% of sexual offences
Replies: >>1414804
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 5:23:06 AM No.1414804
>>1414798
>muh percentages
Replies: >>1414806
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 5:26:45 AM No.1414806
>>1414804
Yes. The op image is in percentages.
Is math confusing to you or something?
Replies: >>1414817
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:02:31 AM No.1414817
>>1414806
Sounds like you're struggling to rationalize away the fact that whites commit the most sex abuse.
Replies: >>1414825
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:49:50 AM No.1414825
>>1414817
So you admit basic math is beyond your comprehension.
Replies: >>1414848
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:23:18 AM No.1414846
Lefttards really hate objective classifications of reality, as they never follow their fantasy narratives. It's why they've been suppressing any scientific research of intelligence as well.
Replies: >>1414848
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:34:29 AM No.1414848
>>1414825
>>1414846
White people still commit the most sexual abuse crimes. That is a fact.
Replies: >>1414855 >>1415044
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:50:15 AM No.1414855
>>1414848
Imagine repetitively affirming that you're a low IQ retard, lucky you, you're anonymous.
Replies: >>1414867
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 1:10:25 PM No.1414867
>>1414855
Ok but white people still commit the most sexual abuse crimes. Have fun trying to obfuscate that fact.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:47:12 AM No.1415044
>>1414848
Not really though, but when you only focus on a white-majority country, then sure. But you're just a racist reprobate.
Replies: >>1415051
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 5:15:48 AM No.1415051
>>1415044
Ok whitey
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 7:41:45 PM No.1415303
>>1414354 (OP)
Good. Now I no longer have to worry about troomers in my state.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 10:38:47 PM No.1415357
This is the feel-good news of the year.