The United States launched strikes on three Iranian nuclear facilities, President Trump said Saturday evening.

"We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan," Mr. Trump wrote on Truth Social. "All planes are now outside of Iran air space. A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site, Fordow. All planes are safely on their way home."

The president plans to address the nation at 10 p.m. ET, and CBS News will have live coverage.

"This is an HISTORIC MOMENT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ISTAEL (sic), AND THE WORLD. IRAN MUST NOW AGREE TO END THIS WAR. THANK YOU!" Mr. Trump wrote in a follow up post.

The decision to directly involve the U.S. comes after more than a week of strikes by Israel on Iran that have moved to systematically eradicate the country's air defenses and offensive missile capabilities, while damaging its nuclear enrichment facilities. But U.S. and Israeli officials have said that American stealth bombers and a 30,000-lb. bunker-buster bomb they alone can carry offered the best chance of destroying heavily-fortified sites connected to the Iranian nuclear program, including the Fordo enrichment site buried deep underground.

>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-launches-strikes-iranian-nuclear-facilities-trump-says/

>>1414989 (OP) (Cont)
Iran has pledged to retaliate if it joined the Israeli assault. Fordo is buried almost 300 feet beneath a mountain and protected by significant air defenses.

Experts have believed the best chance at destroying the facility lies with the U.S.-produced "bunker-buster" bomb known as the GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator, or MOP — a bomb is so heavy that it could only be dropped by an American B-2 bomber.

Earlier Saturday, multiple U.S. officials had confirmed to CBS News that B-2 bombers had departed Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri en route to Guam. Multiple U.S. aerial refueling tankers were spotted on commercial flight trackers flying flight patterns consistent with escorting aircraft from the central U.S. to the Pacific.

OTHER SOURCES:
>https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-06-21-25-intl-hnk
>https://www.axios.com/2025/06/21/us-strike-iran-nuclear-israel-trump
>https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/trump-says-u-s-very-successfully-attacked-nuclear-sites-in-iran-242039365894

Oh boy I can't wait to waste trillions of dollars, tens of thousands of American lives and potentially a nuclear exchange just because our political leadership couldn't stop fucking kids on a Mossad agent's island

GG YOU NEOCON FUCKING RETARDS
YOU THINK MILK IS EXPENSIVE NOW, IT'S GONNA GET A WHOLE LOT WORSE

>>1414991
Don't worry he's still anti-war. See he asked for peace at the end of the fucking Truth Social post announcing this.

>>1414992
Yeah, if we just don't call it a war then it doesn't count. Bring on the nobel peace prize for innovative use of "peace bombs"!

>>1414992
"A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site...NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!"

>>1414989 (OP)
Here we fucking go again. Another war in the middle east over nukes that don’t fucking exist, a planned regime change that’s sure to go south, and vague as fuck goals ensuring we’ll get mission creeped to hell.
Except this time the White House is staffed entirely by THE stupidest motherfuckers we could find. And we don’t even have a 9/11 excuse, it’s all at the behest of a genocidal, warmongering foreign country we don’t even have an alliance with.
Fantastic.

trust the pl(a)n
goodest prez of the life time wouldn bombo iranian wo a good raison
trust plan

I wonder how the "anti-war" Republicans are going to spin this as a good thing

>>1414991
this will be good for the economy

>>1414997
They're already spinning it as actually being a great peacekeeping maneuver that surely will not result in Iran doing anything else. Because obviously, after being bombed the normal reaction is to just lay down and surrender to peace talks.

>>1414997
They're gonna pretend they were never isolationists to begin with

>>1414991
Which politicians could I have voted for where this outcome wouldn't have happened?

>>1415001
Harris.
>but she-
No.

So when do you think Trump’s going to nuke something?

>>1415004
Maybe if an American base gets hit

>>1414997
We have never been anti-war, just anti-dumb war, like every war the lying left has gotten us into. Dumb wars that the left dragged us into:

>War of Northern Aggression
>Spanish War
>WWI
>WWII
>Korea
>Vietnam
>Iraq

Dumb wars the right started:

>>1415007
>War of Northern Aggression
Bait used to be believable.

>>1414997
Please tell me you’re not stupid enough to believe that Iraq was started by the left

>>1415001
It's all Freemasons, doesn't make a difference. Order out of chaos.
https://files.catbox.moe/lqgm0m.mp4

>>1414997
Republicans haven't been conservative for decades, they're just war mongering neocons.

>>1415009
Not that anon, but the war of northern aggression had nothing to do with slavery either.
>but the government school and mass media taught me-
lol
>but they wouldn't lie to me, I trusted them!
lmao even

>>1415033
why are you making me make fun of you again, esl shill

>>1415033
Yeah, it was about States Rights... to do what?

>>1414989 (OP)
So many people didn’t vote democrat in “protest” of America’s support of Israel. How’s that working out?

>>1415033
The US is a proxy for Israel. Whatever Bebe wants from us, he gets. We can’t help but do everything Israel wants us to do.

>>1415034
>>1415036
Why are you retarded?

I assumed, for all his many other failings, he had a clear enough read on Iraq — its senselessness, its consequences, the way it cannibalized the entirety of Bush's legacy and political project — to selfishly avoid this one specific mistake.

>>1415046
Your mistake was assuming competence from Trump.

>>1415046
That’s way too many words to describe something you think Trump understands.

>>1415037
Trump is retarded but if you think anything would've been different if Kamala was president then you're also retarded. Foreign policy is uniparty despite what the parties want you to think.

>>1415050
It would be very different under Kamala.
>>1414618
>>1414625

>>1415046
How many jews do you think have been in Trump's office in the past week? They have probably told him, in no uncertain terms, that they're either going to assassinate him or put him in jail if he doesn't pull the trigger on this

>>1415052
>words words words
Yeah and Trump said he was the peace president. You still have a lot to learn. Look around, the DNC and adjacent media have been manufacturing consent for this bombing for days now. They try to get their jabs in at Trump when they can but they also support bombing Iran lol.

>>1415054
Watching CNN and MSNBC spend the last three days saying we need to bomb Iran and now they're all saying it's Trump's fault tells me that this is a game that everyone playing is going to lose

>>1415054
You're a moron who is ignoring that the previous administration prevented Israel from bombing Iran, and now that someone who is as far to the right as Bibi is in office he was clear to start this war.

>>1415057
>Watching CNN and MSNBC spend the last three days saying we need to bomb Iran
Post five stories saying that.

>>1415058
>prevented Israel from bombing Iran
Israel was bombing Iran during the entire Biden administration. This is just the first time that Iran really retaliated

>>1415060
No they weren't, read the article
>>1414618

>>1415059
>Watching CNN and MSNBC
>Watching
The television, ESL. Don't even try to pretend that the leftwing media isn't encouraging this.

>>1414991
Don't give a fuck. Trump is putting in a bill to un-NFA suppressors and SBRs. Maybe you filthy dems should've tried the same thing instead of the complete opposite every single time.

>>1415058
Do you ever wonder why the DNC is extremely unpopular even when the convervacucks are LARPing as fascists? It's because they are the most pathetic "opposition party" to ever exist. Same shit just gay and woke (literally). Genocide Joe was still financing Israel's violence in Gaza.

>>1415062
I don't have to pretend anything because they aren't encouraging it. And I'm not ESL, I'm a Texan.

>>1415064
I don't give a shit and don't see how that's relevant to anything going on in this thread. The DNC has no power and can't do anything but uselessly call for Trump's impeachment. Meanwhile Bibi is taking credit for Trump joining the war on Israeli TV.

>>1415065
>I'm a Texan.
You mean you're a liberal cuck that fled California during Covid.

>>1415061
>No they weren't, read the article
nta but yeah, they were
2019–2021: Israeli strikes on Iranian Revolutionary Guard Quds Force weapons systems and supply lines in Syria (air bases, radars) .

May 2024: Israeli airstrike targeted Iranian consulate annex in Damascus.

Mid-2024: Israel F‑35s did multiple missions over Syria and Iraq to weaken Iranian proxy military capabilities.

Iran has been firing bombs and missiles back at Israel with operation true promise I and II and several smaller skirmishes.

They've been bickering like children much longer than the past 5 years, that's just what I googled for

>>1415067
Every strawman you make is an admission of defeat.

>>1415066
>Meanwhile Bibi is taking credit for Trump joining the war on Israeli TV.
Of course he is. He's using Epstein's compromat to blackmail trump. He could ask trump to gargle his balls and trump would do it without a second thought.

>>1415066
It's relevant because you're under the delusion that we could have avoided this by electing Kamala, which is so self-evidently not true. Since you have lost track of the conversation I will state it for you simply: The DNC and GOP are both in agreement with bombing Iran. Both sides will scramble to get political points from this but the ideology is the same. We had Chuck Schumer days ago upset that Trump was supposedly making a side deal with Iran and he wanted to be MORE hawkish.

>>1415068
It wasn't a full scale war before now. Nice try at false equivalence though.

>>1415071
Fair point but Chuck Schumer is a laughing stock and isn't some kind of inspirational voice of the left. AOC has been whining louder than ever about not joining the war.

>>1415071
> The DNC and GOP are both in agreement with bombing Iran.
This is objectively false though.

>>1415075
Damn selective memory is a hell of a thing.

>>1415076
Naah more like your headcanon isn't real. It's not like you can't just search Google News and see that the dem response is not Uniparty like your headcanon is telling you.

>>1415071
>The DNC and GOP are both in agreement with bombing Iran.
DNC is almost universally opposed and even the GOP has some saying their opposition. You're fucking brainrotted.

>>1414989 (OP)
Reminder that Trump has been reported to literally never sit for Daily Intelligence Briefings. Out of the 150+ days of his term he's apparently only been to a dozen. He quite literally doesn't know what he's fucking doing or what the situation is.

>>1415077
I've been watching CNN for the last week. It's all "aww jeez war is bad but ya know Iran CANNOT have a nuke that's too far." Where is the diversity in opinion from the media? Who in office has publicly spoken out against the bombing BEFORE tonight?

>>1415078
lol I will never understand why you people on this board lie about things which are so easily disprovable with a single search
https://www.timesofisrael.com/democrats-divided-over-american-involvement-in-israel-iran-war/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/democrats-are-at-odds-over-israel-iran-war-as-trump-announces-u-s-strikes-on-iran
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congress-members-split-over-us-attack-iran-2025-06-22/

>>1415081
>Literally every dem listed in the most recent one is opposed and half the Repubs are also opposed
Thanks for proving my point retard.

>>1415080
I've also been watching CNN for the past week and I didn't see any of that. It makes me think you saw a CNN clip on xitter and weren't really watching the cable tv channel. In reality the dem response has been like this Wolf Blitzer Situation Room interview with Ro Khanna, the leading democrat on the Armed Services Committee:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/19/Tv/video/cnn-sitroom-blitzer-ro-khanna-thomas-massie-israel-iran-trump
>Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna joined CNN's Wolf Blitzer to discuss the Congressional legislation he's co-sponsoring with Republican Rep. Thomas Massie to try and limit Trump's ability to get involved militarily in the conflict between Israel and Iran.

>>1415082
>I don't know what 'split the party' means
He was talking about the dem party being split, not the GOP.

>>1414989 (OP)
AM YISRAEL CHAI

>>1415083
No I actually watch the CNN YouTube channel. I don't even have a shitter account or use that site. It's all been shilling for action against Iran, even the reporting they did in Tehran was just dogshit.

>>1415086
well you better tell the guy who thinks Chuck Schumer is a war hawk >>1415071

>>1414989 (OP)
COPE AND SEETHE ISLAMOPHILES

>>1414989 (OP)
Reminder that Trump by definition must be impeached for this. He has committed an act of war without congressional approval. Republicans cannot hide behind anything anymore.

>>1415087
That's my post, thanks for the (You)s and you can hear it from good ole Chuck himself
https://youtube.com/shorts/bWp9Iba2Ka4?si=PgQuR48FTFlY9btq
>let Iran get away with everything
I agree Chuck! BOMBS AWAY!

>>1415090
If anything it proves >>1415082 wrong that every dem was opposed.

>>1415089
Genuine question: Didn't Obama do similar targeted strikes during his administration without consequences? Was there a difference? If not, why aren't presidents held accountable for taking actions that are supposed to involve multiple branches of government?

> Israel needs help from Big Daddy US to fight a war their arrogant fuck-wit prime minister started.
I'd like to see Trump and Netanyahu publicly burned at the stake.

>>1415092
Obama didn't join a pre-existing war against Iran, no.

>>1415092
Obama at least had the justification of acting against ISIS. Iran meanwhile has done literally nothing to the US to prompt this beyond themselves getting bombed by Israel, a country we are on-paper not allied with and thus have no requirement or responsibility to help in a war of aggression.

>>1415089
Bro trump is a retard and this is unpopular as fuck, but it's no more an act of war than biden bombing Syria Iraq or Yemen

>>1415097
Remove Kebab.

>>1415100
I keep seeing this IDF talking point but the "red line" of war was established in the previous administration and crossed by Bibi with Trump.

>>1415100
It is literally joining Israel's war.

has the U.S. formally declared war on Iran? In the past, this has been circumvented because the enemy was not an officially recognized government, but since we're attacking Iran, did trump have to get congress to sign off?

>>1415103
Nah. Remove Kebab.

>>1415009
thank you for your response. 0.02 shekels has been deposited into my account

>>1414991

Fucking Jews dragging is into yet _another_ war in the MidEast...

>>1415105
He's supposed to. he didn't.

>>1415001
>Which politicians could I have voted for where this outcome wouldn't have happened?
>>1415002
>Harris.

lol, no. Kamala is a wholly political creature and puppet of the Dems, who are puppets of the Jews, just like the Reps are puppets of the Jews.

Trump could have told the Jews to fuck off but he's a dumbass who they conned into bombing Iran.

>>1415038
>The US is a proxy for Israel.

Will this be the turning point? Will Americans finally realize who is leading the U.S. around by the nose and demand changes?

>>1415105
No, it hasn't. Only Congress has the power to declare war. The President has the power to deploy the USMC at his discretion and the power to approve certain military actions under various sets of circumstances. Like after Iran mined international waters in the 80's and President Reagan approved operation Preying Mantis and the US sunk half of Irans navy in a single day. Or when President Trump signed off on putting Solemani (or however the fuck you spell it) in the ground after he planned an attack on an embassy.

>>1415072
Neither is this for the US, you retard. Trump bombed some shit and left, just like Biden did to Syria, Yemen and Iraq, without being at war with any one of them

>>1415106
There seems to be a concerted effort to downplay the war that started less than two weeks ago as nothing more than a missile strike or two.

WMDs(weapons of mass dementia)

>>1415113
>>1415114
IDF is swarming the internet like a kicked wasp nest

>>1415104
How many troops do we have there? Zero? How many continued air campaigns are we flying? Zero?
Doesn't sound like much of a war.

>>1415117
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/21/world/iran-israel-trump
>U.S. Enters War With Iran, Bombing Key Nuclear Sites
It's a war.

>>1415116
No, trumps a retard and shouldn't have done this, but it's not war either like you faggots are claiming.
Fuck Israel, they are probably the only people I dislike more than you political partisan faggots. Like trump. A political partisan faggot

>>1415046
>I assumed, for all his many other failings, he had a clear enough read on Iraq — its senselessness, its consequences, the way it cannibalized the entirety of Bush's legacy and political project — to selfishly avoid this one specific mistake.

Same here. Trump has shown no interest in military adventures but it's now clear the Jews literally call all the shots in the U.S.

>>1415119
>>1415118

>>1415118
Uhhh, schizo fag, those words aren't anywhere in that article.
Did you forget your haloperidol?

>>1415118
>>1415121
I'm going to take a wild guess and say those words were in that article at some point when your handlers shared the article with you, and at some point since then the publication has removed that statement because it's not accurate

>>1415122
https://files.catbox.moe/cemf9q.png
lel

>>1415123
>>1415124

>>1415124
How about you share that link with me anon? Because it's not in the link you shared.

Share the news article that claims that, because the one you shared does not

>>1415118
No. It's just like every other time the US blew up Iranian shit. The Iranians will cry great big crocodile tears that big dady America gave them a spanking, then go quietly sulk in their room.

>>1415124
Looks like they changed that title and removed it from the article quickly lmao.

>>1415127
It's fucked up. And it could lead to war.

The interesting part is that Israel maintains positive relations with pretty much anyone who isn't a neighbor. They have great relations with Russia and pretty positive with China. It's going to be real hard for one of them to come up with a cassus belli against the US without including Israel.
It could very well lead to an actual war with Iran, but we know how that would end.

Either way this was a dumb move

>>1415129
Nah. No worse than sinking half of Irans navy.

>>1415126
You can see the link is purple in the screencap because that's the link I shared.
>>1415128
What about the CNBC and the AP story saying the same thing?

>>1415129
>And it could lead to war.
It's already a war. I don't know how you people are deluding yourselves into thinking it isn't.

>>1414992
>>1414993
>>1414994
Cry more retards lmao even

>>1415132
No it isn't. War requires two or more sides of relatively equal strength. This was just a beating.

>>1415134
You're retarded and nobody buys your spindoctoring. Even Wikipedia calls it a war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_war

>>1415131
>What about the CNBC and the AP story saying the same thing?
I don't know, all you've shared is an NY Time article that did not at all say what you had quoted it to say

>>1415135
Wikipedia says stupid shit that isn't true all the time.

>>1415136
It's in the screenshot but since your tendency is to start sealioning, here you go
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/21/trump-israel-iran-conflict.html
>U.S. enters war between Israel and Iran
https://apnews.com/live/israel-iran-war-updates
>Live updates: US intervenes in war between Israel and Iran by striking 3 Iranian nuclear sites

>>1415137
But it is true you're just strangely in some kind of denial about it. It makes me think you're being paid.

>>1415135
>>1415138
The USA is not at war with Iran. It doesn't matter how many retards you can find claiming otherwise. The US Congress is the only branch of the government with the power to declare war. As of me hitting the post button they have not so.

>>1415138
>US intervenes in war between Israel and Iran by striking 3 Iranian nuclear sites
Ah got it. Thanks, anon. Your screenshot didn't have urls, I'm not sure if you realized that, but when you share a screenshot with me I can't click on any of the hyperlinks.

That being said, I'm doubling down on my claim. The US "intervening" in a war does not necessarily mean we are at war... I mean, were we at war with Syria when Obama was bombing them in 2014 during the Syrian Civil War?

Regardless of this pedantism, it's exactly what trump was referencing in his "no more wars" campaign promises, and he's an Israeli ball gargler

>>1415140
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5362470-us-iran-bombing-takeaways/
>5 takeaways as US enters war with Iran, strikes nuclear sites
https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-world/2025/06/21/us-enters-war-with-iran-bombing/
>U.S. enters war with Iran, bombing key nuclear sites
https://abc7.com/post/us-has-struck-iranian-nuclear-sites-trump-says-joining-israeli-air-campaign/16811258/
>US inserts itself into Israel's war with Iran, strikes 3 Iranian nuclear sites
I'm sorry but the rest of reality disagrees with your 'just a few missile strikes, exactly like Obama and Biden' talking points.

>>1415105
The US hasn't formally declared war since WWII. It's more or less a dead practice. However putting troops in harms way still requires Congressional approval. In the past this was covered by getting that approval (eg iraq) or repurposing active approvals (eg the war on terror).

However presidents have 2 work arounds to that rule.

1. If there's no boots on the ground, they don't have to get permission for jack shit.
2. If they put boots on the ground, they have 90 days before they have to pull out or get Congressional approval.

As long as Trump doesn't invade Iran, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. If and when he does, he's on a 3 month clock until a constitutional crisis.

I expect if he does invade he'll try and say Iran is covered by the 9/11 authorization for use of military force because some al-qaeda presence is there or something. That or he'll just say fuck the Constitution and dare Congress to not give him authorization or SCOTUS to say he has to pull out. That said, there's enough zionists and Trump boot lickers combined in Congress that I think he could get authorization easily if he's already invaded.

>>1415141
>I mean, were we at war with Syria when Obama was bombing them in 2014 during the Syrian Civil War?
No. We were at war with ISIS. They were covered by like 2 authorizations for use of military force being an al-qaeda offshoot full of Iraqis.

Countless retards ITT expect him to make peace and deal with a low IQ violent sand monkey who actively chants death to America for God knows how long and plus all the other shit they did that makes bombing their shit hole long overdue

>>1415132
>It's already a war.
The US isn't at war with Iran until and unless they commit to tit for tat. We have attacked Iran. It may lead to war. Hell, it will probably lead to war. But it's not war yet.

>>1415142
The USA is not at war with Iran.

>>1415147
Ahh ok but what does joining an already existing war? No one is saying the US started this. Israel did, and Trump joined the war on the side of Israel.

>>1415148
>>1415149

>>1415149
An existing war with Israel doesn't change the fact that the US isn't at war with Iran until they commit to tit for tat.

>>1415149
By this anon's logic there is no war between Israel and Iran, because neither of them have called it a war. Same with Ukraine and Russia, for that matter.

>>1415153
>>1415154
It's a war, morons, go ahead and jump on the bandwagon for the big win.
>Here are the latest developments.

American warplanes and submarines attacked three key nuclear sites in Iran early Sunday, bringing the U.S. military directly into Israel’s war and prompting fears that the strikes could lead to more dangerous escalations across the Middle East.
>bringing the U.S. military directly into Israel’s war
>Israel's war
>war

>>1415155
I was pointing out how stupid it is to not call this a war...

>>1415144
>No. We were at war with ISIS
Wow, really? Better arrest Obama, because just like Trump, Congress didn't declare war on anybody

>>1415156
Are you the anon who made the other thread calling it a war? >>1414987
Well done if so.

nobody tell >>1415158 about the congressional declaration of war against ISIS

>>1415160
Congress never declared war on isis. You're going to try to argue your false statement probably by tying it to the 2001-2002 AUMFs against al-qaeda I imagine, but go ahead. Gaslight me anon. Show me the declaration of war you think Congress passed against isis.

>>1415161
https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/07/politics/congress-obama-war-authorization


If President Donald Trump decides to go to Congress to authorize military action against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad or ISIS, he can look to his predecessor for a cautionary tale of getting the legislative branch involved in voting for war.

President Barack Obama went to Congress several years ago to pass an Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) for US military campaign against ISIS, but the effort failed to gain traction amid weariness from lawmakers to vote on the war and disagreements over the details of the authorization.

Ultimately, Congress never took a full vote on an ISIS war authorization.

The Obama administration began striking ISIS in Syria in September 2014, which prompted congressional critics of the military action to call for Congress to vote on the war. Initially, the White House did not send Congress a war authorization, saying it was legally justified to strike ISIS based on the war authorization approved after the September 11, 2001, attacks.

But Congress began its own effort, and a war authorization was approved in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in December 2014, when Democrats still controlled the upper chamber.

That effort didn’t go any further as the Senate switched from Democratic control to Republican control following the 2014 midterms.

In February 2015, Obama sent Congress a draft AUMF, which he said in a speech that congressional passage of the measure makes the US “strongest” in the fight against ISIS.

There were disagreements over the measure almost immediately, however, underscoring the difficulties in getting Congress to agree on what a war authorization should look like.

Syria just changed Donald Trump’s presidency

Obama’s draft authorization included limitations on “enduring offensive ground combat operations,” as well as a three-year window before it would have to be re-authorized.

The restrictions were a recognition that Democrats would insist on a clear scope for any war authorization, as well as concerns stemming from the Iraq War over the deployment of US ground troops in the Middle East.

But Republicans balked at those conditions, saying that they were opposed to limiting the military options of the commander-in-chief, for Obama or any future US President.

The disagreement, as well as Republicans’ skepticism of Obama, stalled the measure. By April 2015, then-House Speaker John Boehner was already saying Obama would not get an AUMF.

“Until the President gets serious about fighting the fight, until he has a strategy that makes sense, there’s no reason for us to give him less authority than what he has today. Which is what he’s asking for,” Boehner said.

The 2002 Iraq War vote – the last time Congress passed a war authorization – also loomed over lawmakers, who remembered how then-Sen. Hillary Clinton’s vote for the war was used against her years later on the presidential campaign trail when the war went sour with the public.

Both Trump and Clinton said during the campaign that they agreed with the Obama administration assessment that the war was legally justified by the 2001 AUMF, which was intended to fight al Qaeda and passed a decade before ISIS existed. But they also said they’d support congressional approval of the ISIS war.

Now many of the same lawmakers who failed to get Congress to pass a war authorization for Obama are hoping they’ll have better luck with Trump in power – and Thursday’s airstrike against Syrian government targets has sparked a new round of calls for an AUMF.

“We had a bill in for a couple of years nobody was interested in – we tried to wordsmith differences between Democrats and Republicans – so we’re actually exploring some different ways of coming at it,” Sen. Tim Kaine, a Virginia Democrat who’s been one of the biggest advocates for a war vote, told CNN last month.

>Not recognizing the obvious Israeli-planted controlled opposition from day one.
How does it feel to get cucked for an entire decade?

>>1415161
Obama wore a tan suit, therefore your argument is invalid.

Fake news. There won't be a war. America bombs random countries all the time without there being a ground war. The balls in Irans court. Our mission in finished. All they need to do is stand down, stop pursuing nukes, and not retaliate against America.

>>1415145
I am really interested in why people don't have enough critical thinking to realize that Iran is an active enemy of the US who keeps poking west every single year, the would nuke the US if the could, I have no doubt.

Someone has to destroy their nukes, that's life if you don't want the sand monkey to nuke ever caucasian country who don't believe in the Cora.

>>1415145
Why didn't he apply the same logic to North Korea then?
>>1415170
>pointless war is LE GOOD now because Cheeto McHitler said so
Bunch of war mongering savages.

>>1415158
>Congress didn't declare war on anybody
ISIS, formerly al qaeda in iraq, was, by virtue of being an al qaeda splinter group, covered under the post 9/11 authorization for use of military force.

We haven't had a declared war since WWII, but Congress doesn't have to declare war to authorize military force. Obama had Congressional permission to engage with ISIS.

>>1415170
They don't have nukes. There is no proof they have nukes.
The assertion that they have nukes is being used as a pretense for regime change.
Who benefits from regime change? Israel.
All this shit happened after Israel attacked Iran, which we know for a fact wasn't coordinated, because the US had to spend time moving carrier groups to assist Israel.
Israel is doing this shit now because they want to decouple from the US, knowing that they are losing popular support from the American people, and that if they don't act now then they won't have another shot.

>>1415177
israel jumps the gun every decade or so and america plays along, but they have thousands of years of white guilt stored up so it usually self resolves

>>1415170
>Someone has to destroy their nukes, that's life if you don't want the sand monkey to nuke ever caucasian country who don't believe in the Cora.
I've seen this one before. Can't believe they made a sequel, the first one already sucked.

>>1414991
>>1414995


You, good sir, have well resumed the situation.

>>1415180
The American attention span is so short that Covid has already been forgotten.

>>1415065
>I'm a Texan
So is Zentreya. You will never be a _man_ , >>1415065

>>1415191
Why do you hate Texas?

>>1415192
It's pretty shit, nothing for miles and miles.

>>1415100
>biden bombing Syria
>cruise missiles launched at Syria in 2017
>2017
There's your opinions as obliterated as Shayrat
So much for 'No More Foreign Wars' seven years later - and saying Obama would start a war with Iran six years previously, you orange hyper-hypocrite.
Hypocrisy. It's hardwaired into the DNA of neocons & MAGAtards. Because unless that latter stop glazing that orange thing and ensure his political destruction in the midterms, it proves there's absolutely no difference between GOP neocon hawks & hardcore cultist Trumptards. Trump said 'No More Foreign Wars' in 2024. Either become completely anti-Trump and ensure his political destruction two years from now or you want foreign wars. Choose wisely, MAGAtards of /news/.

>>1415192
>Dallas
>HQ of the company - founded by an atheist - in the 'Buckle in the Bible Belt', which makes no secret of they being anti-Nazi, thus everything that stands for, and a 2nd DLC by that company a few years ago revealed that God is Satan
In Soviet Texas, id Software hates you

>>1415100
>biden bombing Syria
>cruise missiles launched at Syria in 2017
>2017
There's your opinions as obliterated as Shayrat
So much for 'No More Foreign Wars' seven years later - and saying Obama would start a war with Iran six years previously, you orange hyper-hypocrite.
Hypocrisy. It's hardwired into the DNA of neocons & MAGAtards. Because unless the latter stop glazing that orange thing and ensure his political destruction in the midterms, it proves there's absolutely no difference between GOP neocon hawks & hardcore cultist Trumptards. Trump said 'No More Foreign Wars' in 2024. Either become completely anti-Trump and ensure his political destruction two years from now or you want foreign wars. Choose wisely, MAGAtards of /news/.

>>1415171
Because North Korea agreed to talk things over after President Trump made a show of reaching for the stick.

Iran on the other had, just HAD to find out what happens when you keep poking the bear.

>>1415197
Israel attacked Iran, though

>>1415175
>We haven't had a declared war since WWII,

Meanwhile from an article linked AND posted ITT

>2002 Iraq War vote – the last time Congress passed a war authorization

>>1415197
>when you keep poking the bear.
After Israel started the whole thing unprovoked? Really?

>>1415196
NOT gonna voting in those commie motherfucker democraps, faggot!

>>1415203
>wants foreign wars despite their orange god not wanting foreign wars previously, yet gets involved in a foreign war
You chose... poorly.

>>1415086
That's redundant to say but go off

>>1415096
You don't care about the circumstances so drop the pretext. Orange man bad is all you got going for bro L

>>1415208
Imagine being this ignorant on the internet.

>>1415208
>Orange man bad is all you got going
And Orange man worse is all you got going. Just ask all those Republican voters who won't be voting for them again two years from now. Minnesota was just the beginning.

>>1415208
>drop the pretext
>Orange man bad is all you got
You're hilarious. Trump and his shyster lawyers are using the 2001 AUMF to say Iran somehow helped Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda do 9/11, and that gives him military authority to bomb Iran without declaring war. That is seriously the argument they're using.

You voted for this, MAGAts, or should we say MIGAts
https://i.postimg.cc/VNNMNdPC/netanyahu-trump.jpg
Here's your 'Fell For It Again' award, Trumptards of /news/.

>>1415208
Having fun owning all this hypocrisy till you die

Just think. If Trump had lost and gone to jail, you guys who voted for him could have coped forever with
>Well, he would have done THIS instead
and made him a martyr
Now, his legacy is being Israel’s lapdog and the biggest hypocrite of all time that dragged us into another pointless war after promising he wouldn’t

Whole lot of angry mudslimes in this thread. Not like their anger amounts to anything though. If Iran wants to be stupid about this the USA can just do Operation Preying Mantis II: this time we sink Iran's ENTIRE navy.

>>1415215
>we

Should I realistically be concerned about how these events will affect my ability to immigrate to another country as a US citizen within the next 8 months?

My timeline was 8 months, but I'm wondering if I should speed this up to at least October.

>>1415217
If Iran blockades the Straight of Hormuz and the US navy intervenes then prices for everyday items will rise even more than they already are with Trump's tariffs. That said, if Iran pulls off some kind of terror attack on US soil all bets are off. It really is too soon to tell what's going to play out as far as Iran's response in the next few weeks.

>Fool me can’t get fooled again
How does it feel to get fooled again by these people?

>>1415162
>"What happened last time Congress tried to pass a war authorization"
>President Barack Obama went to Congress several years ago to pass an Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) for US military campaign against ISIS, but the effort failed to gain traction amid weariness from lawmakers to vote on the war and disagreements over the details of the authorization.
>Ultimately, Congress never took a full vote on an ISIS war authorization.
For fucks sake do you even read before you knee jerk? That's exactly what I said here: >>1415161
You are wrong when you said Congress declare war on isis: >>1415160
You faggot retard

>>1415222
>>1415211

>>1415221
feels bad man

>>1415223
Have you tried gobbling a cock? I don't support trump, nobody declared war on isis, and trump is an Israeli ball washer

>>1415223
>2001 AUMF
Hey hey hey, exactly what I said here: >>1415161

Wasn't it funny when this anon btfo himself and proved me right because he didn't read his article: >>1415162?

>>1415220
Sounds reasonable. There's a lot of verbal threats it seems but I don't know if i am overreacting as a privileged white US citizen being concerned about how this will impact my plan to move to another western country because of 3 bomb strikes in the middle east.

Prices, I don't really care. Other countries retaliating or declaring the US as a high risk country, that I'm afraid of. But I'm stupid and I don't know what impact that would have or if that's even possible. After all, UK is a high risk country, but travelers from the UK are not banned from visa applications.

>>1415222
>>1415226
Why are you so angry?

>>1415229
Because I share the board with easily disproven retards like you who pivot so hard you have to type with whiplash.

>>1415215
>angry magats in this thread
>because it's not only their orange god 's hypocrisy that's being exposed & called out. Not like their impotently angry hypocritical opinions amount to anything as those Republicans who voted Trump late last year because he said 'No More Foreign Wars' will exert their revenge on their now Hypocrite-in-Chief and not vote Republican in the midterms thus the MAGAt cultists will never amount to anything, just like the Teabaggers/Teatards after Romney's defeat. Like their cult leader, they'll be eating crow-flavored lame duck a l'orange till that day their orange god takes that final trip on Marine One, and the rest of the US initiates Operation Schadenfreude as they succeed with Total MAGA Death
...oh, and ftfy, >>1415215

>>1415236
I'm about 98% sure you have some kind of undiagnosed mental illness for which you need meds.

It's 101% confirmed that MAGAts in /news/ & beyond have a diagnosed mental illness for which they need meds. That illness being Trumptards called out on their need to support a hypocrite.
But then Hypocrisy isn't just a mental illness, it's a genetic disease due to it being hardwired into the DNA of rightards.

Undiagnosed mental illness running wild above ^^

>>1415270
Quick, cite another article with imaginary quotes that don't actually exist in it.

>>1415275
>^^
>two arrows pointing up, indicating the second post above
Thanks for admitting that >>1415270 - thus you - is 101% confirmed to have a diagnosed mental illness for which they need meds. You said it, I didn't.

>>1415276
There were no imaginary quotes. You just wish they were.

>dems treating this as an own
>trying to play it off as a republican only issue instead of an israel issue
Wake up
Don't make me wake the others

>>1415305
Which posts do you think were made by dems?

>>1415305
>Trump before today: No More Foreign Wars'
>today: so senile, he can't recognize his own hypocrisy or he would have never so much as thought of ordering those bombings, least of all without remembering that a president needs approval by Congress before ordering such a military action
>it's a self own
Go back to sleep, >>1415305

Last Time on Iran Boat Z: Ronald Reagan deployed the US navy to stop Iran from fucking around. One US ship hit an undersea mine, set by Iran, in international waters.

In response the US destroys half of Iran's navy in a single day, including the most technologically advances ships they poses.

Iran throws a screaming tantrum and tries to sue the US on international court. The cout finds the US did nothing wrong and dismisses Iran's piss baby tears.

The US ship that hit the mine was put in drydock, repaired and went on to have decades of active service.

>>1415313
Last time America went to war in the Middle East, we wasted trillions of dollars over several decades
If we go back to another forever war, your kids will be drafted

>>1415305
they're somewhat right to criticize Trump for being inconsistent or shifting his position, but you know goddamn well half these people wouldn't be saying shit if Kamala ordered these strikes, and they're not even conscious of it. they don't object to strikes on Iran based on any actual principle. their response is always "Trump bad" and they work backwards from there to figure out why what he did is uniquely horrible.

>>1415316
Kamala would have continued Biden's policy whereby Israel would lose their funding if they attacked Iran.

>>1415316
I don’t think the kikes would have been emboldened enough to enact their final solution if Kamala had won. They know how easily manipulated Trump is

>>1415318
>Biden's policy whereby Israel would lose funding if they attacked Iran

Why have I never heard of this? He said they wouldn't back a counterattack on Iran in the immediate aftermath of that missile strike, but I never heard anything about cutting funding. Not saying you're wrong, but can you provide a source?

>>1415321
see >>1414618
>>1414625

>>1415320
every other time israel bombed alleged WMD sites, there was a republican in charge (1981, 2007)

>>1415315
I want to see a real draft. Lets see just how far gone this country is. This isn't 911 and every 90IQ retard is signing up because he thinks he's a patriot. The cat is completely out of the bag that we are the bad guys and you're going into the meat grinder because Israel won't stop starting wars

>>1415323
Yes, that's what I was referring to. Nothing about cutting funding, but yes his posture was no counterattack for missile strikes. At the same time Biden made almost identical unequivocal statements about Iranian nukes to Trump - they would never be allowed to acquire them. And he likewise said military action was a last resort but that we "wouldn't wait forever" and force was absolutely on the table.

Trump is the only one smart and manly and strong enough to do this. This is why I voted for him.

>>1415334
There's never been a military who could have done what it did a while ago, and never a president who had the balls to use it like Trump did a while ago. One nation. One people. One leader.

How does this make my gas and eggs and taxes cheaper?

>>1415334
>>1415335
https://i.postimg.cc/VNNMNdPC/netanyahu-trump.jpg
This is what you voted for

>>1415334
>>1415335
So you're gonna enlist even if there isn't a draft of all MAGA patriots ?
You know what you'll be admitting when your answer is anything other than Yes

>>1415199
Iraq was an authorization for use of military force, not a declaration of war. Not the same thing.

5 seconds in google, dipshit.

>>1415358
It's not the same thing to you but it is the same thing to everybody else.

>>1415359
I appreciate you trying to save face, but in the post you were bitching about I mentioned the existence of authorizations of military force, clarified that declarations of war aren't needed to engage in war, and was responding to someone who was claiming that the war against ISIS wasn't covered by a declaration of war (therefore they didn't consider it the same as an authorization for use of military force).

In summary, shut the fuck up and fuck off. Jack shit about my post required correction or clarification.

>>1415360
I wasn't the poster you replied to but to the average normie it's a war. Israel and Iran call it a war. The press calls it a war. How much longer are you going to do the dance of this administration by denying it's a war?

>>1415359
>It's not the same thing to you but it is the same thing to everybody else.
Maybe it's the same thing for low information retards.
A declaration of war is not military force.
This is a fact.

>>1415363
I wasn't denying it's a war.

>>1415358
Only reason people hated Iraq war was because Obama botched it. Had a Republican been in control, we'd have all the oil and it would have been worth it.

>>1415315
Good thing that, just like when the USA blew up Iran's shit, this is not and will not become a real, boots on the ground, war.

The sky isn't falling.

>>1415358
So according to you CNN is fake news.

>>1415372
>Obama botched it
By keeping to the withdrawal agreement Bush set up with the new government of Iraq?

You'd have preferred invading our own puppet regime?

By the way, you're fucking insane if you think the thing people hated about Iraq was pulling out.

>>1415396
US Navy ships are already involved. Boots on the water = boots on the ground.

>>1415005
Or one of his properties/Golf courses.

>>1414989 (OP)
Meanwhile, while all the media is focussed on this, try to keep an eye on what Israel is doing in Gazza to the Palastinians. Distraction is a big tactic nowadays.

>>1415318
>Biden's policy whereby Israel would lose their funding if they attacked Iran.

The B2 bombing raid by the U.S. that Trump just carried out, had already been planned and practiced with the Israelis during the Biden administration.

The Jews have some many American politicians in their pocket via bribes and blackmail, that U.S. foreign policy is literally controlled by Israel.

>>1415410
No. In the 80's Iranian and US naval vessels exchanged fire and, as that one anon in this thread is so fond of pointing out, it was not a war.

In 2016 alone, President Obama's administration dropped 26,121 bombs. Again, none of that was a war.

Three precision air strikes do not equal a war. Stop trying to make mountains out of molehills.

>>1415421
The Iranians have declared war on the US now, because the US joined the war Israel started 10 days ago.

>>1415421
nope
>>1415425
nope
Several lawyers and scholars who have studied the international law of armed conflict say the United States is without a doubt at war with Iran for purposes of application of that law, and that Mr. Trump acted in violation of international conventions.

“The short answer is that this is, in my view, illegal under both international law and U.S. domestic law,” said Oona Hathaway, a professor of international law at Yale Law School who has worked at the Defense Department.

Brian Finucane, a former lawyer at the State Department, agreed that Mr. Trump needed to ask Congress for authorization beforehand. He also said “there is certainly a U.S. armed conflict with Iran, so the law of war applies.”

On Sunday, Iran’s foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, called the U.S. attack an “outrageous, grave and unprecedented violation” of international law and of the United Nations charter, which forbids U.N. members from violating the sovereignty of other members.

Mr. Araghchi did not specifically say that his country is now at war with America. Mr. Finucane also said the United States had violated the U.N. charter.

Ryan Goodman, a law professor at New York University who has also worked at the Defense Department, said “one important matter for both domestic law and especially international law is the issue of ‘imminence.’”

The Trump administration is justifying the U.S. attack by saying Iran’s development of a nuclear weapon was imminent, Mr. Goodman noted.

But “the law would require that the attack would be imminent,” he said, and “it is very hard to see how the administration can meet that test under even the most charitable legal assessment.”
Even if one were to focus on the question of a nuclear bomb, U.S. intelligence agencies have assessed that Iran had not yet decided to make such a weapon, even though it had developed a large stockpile of the enriched uranium necessary for doing so.

>>1415421
>>1415425
>>1415428
G.O.P. leaders in the House and Senate have signaled support for the strike, but Democrats and a few Republicans are demanding that Congress approve any further military action.
Mr. Kaine, who serves on the committees on armed services and foreign relations, introduced a Senate resolution last week requiring that Mr. Trump get explicit congressional approval before taking military action against Iran. Mr. Kaine on Sunday said the measure was still relevant and that he hoped it would come to a vote this week.
Mr. Massie, the Kentucky Republican, introduced a similar war powers resolution last week in the House with Ro Khanna, Democrat of California.
“When two countries are bombing each other daily in a hot war, and a third country joins the bombing, that’s an act of war,” Mr. Massie wrote on social media on Sunday.
Mr. Massie said he was “amazed at the mental gymnastics” Mr. Trump’s defenders have employed to argue the United States was not entering a war by attacking Iranian nuclear facilities.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/22/us/politics/trump-strikes-war-iran.html

>>1415428
>>1415429
Lawyers and scholars argue stupid shit all the time, like Newsome trying to pretend the the President can't issue orders to the National Guard.

Call me when there's been a court case.

>>1415420
source?
>>1415434
>“When two countries are bombing each other daily in a hot war, and a third country joins the bombing, that’s an act of war,” Mr. Massie wrote on social media on Sunday.
>Mr. Massie said he was “amazed at the mental gymnastics” Mr. Trump’s defenders have employed to argue the United States was not entering a war by attacking Iranian nuclear facilities.
he's talking about you

>>1415440
This same person believes a biological male with a penis wearing a dress is also a woman. Mental gymnastics indeed

>>1415442
Cool strawman, gramps

>>1415443
I accept your concession. Now be quiet and let the president work

>>1415444
Did you forget to take your meds grandpa?

>>1415444
The president couldn't even actually destroy any of the stockpiles he was aiming for and is now getting us into another fuckass war in the middle east after spending TWO WHOLE CAMPAIGNS on how he wouldn't do that.

>>1415452
>stockpiles he was aiming for
They aimed for the enrichment facilities though

>>1415454
According to whom?

>>1415454
And judging by the lack of radiation from them, didn't get them either.

>>1415455
The op, for one.
>"We have completed our very successful attack on the three Nuclear sites in Iran, including Fordow, Natanz, and Esfahan,"

>>1415455
Another quote from op news article, please do try to keep up:
>President Trump said in a national address from the White House Saturday night. "Our objective was the destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat posed by the world's number one state sponsor of terror."

How are we feeling anti war MAGA bros?

>>1415500
Trump has taken almost every page out of Bush's playbook. Now the FBI is saying there are Iranian sleeper cells and we should all be afraid and grateful for entering the war.
https://wjla.com/news/local/iran-cyber-attacks-sleeper-cells-retaliation-hacking-it-us-bombs-iran-attacks-us-base-bombs-israel-iranian-nuclear-sites-fbi-national-cyber-investigative-joint-task-force-china-russia

>>1415462
https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/255784560904773633

https://apnews.com/live/iran-israel-war-updates-6-23-2025

Iran and Isreal have agreed to a ceasefire

۔>>1415520
Trump will just bomb them again.

>>1415520
Do you get paid to lie for Trump on the internet?
>Ceasefire status is unclear after Israel reports continued missiles from Iran
That's the headline.

>>1415434
>Newsom
>President
There's an idea, Democrats

>>1415583
https://apnews.com/live/iran-israel-war-updates-6-24-2025#00000197-a190-dc99-a79f-b59c4a3d0000
'Trump: Israel and Iran violated ceasefire'
'President Donald Trump says both Israel and Iran violated ceasefire terms with attacks following an early Tuesday deadline to cease hostilities'
There's >>1415520's opinions proved wrong

>>1415583
>>Ceasefire status is unclear after Israel reports continued missiles from Iran
Well, the awesome ceasefire that Trump apparently set up forced Iran to stop attacking immediately, then allowed Israel to attack them for another couple hours before they were bound by the ceasefire.
You know, the dumbest fucking way you could set up a ceasefire.