https://theintercept.com/2025/06/25/trump-immigrant-deportations-supreme-court/
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday ruled that the Trump administration could resume deporting immigrants to countries other than their own without any chance to object on the grounds that they might be tortured. This may clear a legal path for the government to send men held at a U.S military base in Djibouti to the war-ravaged nation of South Sudan where they face an uncertain future, including the possibility of indefinite detention. Three justices, in a dissent, said the ruling exposes “thousands to the risk of torture or death.”

That may be a best-case scenario.

An Intercept investigation finds that the Trump administration has been hard at work trying to expand its global gulag for expelled immigrants, exploring deals with a quarter of the world’s nations to accept so-called third-country nationals — deported persons who are not their citizens.

To create this archipelago of injustice, the U.S. government is employing strong-arm tactics with dozens of smaller, weaker, and economically dependent nations. The deals are being conducted in secret, and neither the State Department nor U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement will discuss them. With the green light from the Supreme Court, thousands of immigrants are in danger of being disappeared into this network of deportee dumping grounds.

“The Supreme Court’s ruling leaves thousands of people vulnerable to deportation to third countries where they face torture or death, even if the deportations are clearly unlawful,” said Leila Kang, a staff attorney at Northwest Immigrant Rights Project, a group that represents immigrants who filed suit.

The Supreme Court gave no explanations for its decision, which paused enforcement of a federal judge’s ruling that immigrants facing deportation must be given an opportunity to show that they may be tortured at their destination. Later Monday, a district judge in Massachusetts ruled that the order didn’t apply to the deportees in Djibouti. The Trump administration urged the Supreme Court on Tuesday to allow it to immediately expel the men to South Sudan, claiming that U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy was acting in “defiance” of the Supreme Court’s order.

The majority on the Supreme Court did not publish any explanation for their Monday ruling. In a 19-page dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor, joined by Justices Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson, wrote that the majority had disregarded a federal law that requires due process.

“Congress expressly provided noncitizens with the right not to be removed to a country where they are likely to be tortured or killed,” Sotomayor wrote, adding that the majority had endorsed a policy of lawlessness. “The Government has made clear in word and deed that it feels itself unconstrained by law, free to deport anyone anywhere without notice or an opportunity to be heard.” She pointed to the cases of 13 immigrants who “narrowly escaped being the target of extraordinary violence in Libya”; another who “spent months in hiding in Guatemala,” and the men who “face release in South Sudan, which the State Department says is in the midst of ‘armed conflict’ between ‘ethnic groups.’”

Tricia McLaughlin, a spokesperson for ICE’s parent organization, the Department of Homeland Security, called the ruling “a victory for the safety and security of the American people.”

Lawyers representing the immigrants at risk of being sent to countries — or even continents — that they have never visited in their lives disagree. “The ramifications of the Supreme Court’s order will be horrifying; it strips away critical due process protections that have been protecting our class members from torture and death,” said Trina Realmuto, executive director of the National Immigration Litigation Alliance.

Realmuto is representing some of the men whom the government attempted to expel to South Sudan, a nation that may, again, be teetering on the brink of civil war. Their rendition flight to South Sudan was diverted to Djibouti, when Murphy, the U.S. district judge, intervened in the case. The eight men — all previously convicted of violent crimes — have been detained on a U.S military base, Camp Lemonnier, ever since.

A top ICE official earlier this month detailed the appalling and unsafe conditions — including illnesses brought on by the environment — that deportees and the government officials guarding them face at Camp Lemonnier in a sworn legal declaration.

A recent memo by Secretary of State Marco Rubio revealed that the Trump administration threatened dozens of nations with a travel ban while dangling third-country deportation deals to avoid the restrictions. An investigation by The Intercept finds that, with this new gambit, the U.S. has reportedly pursued deals with at least 53 countries, including many that are beset by conflict or terrorist violence or that the State Department has excoriated for human rights abuses.

The State Department refused to provide a list of countries with which the U.S. has made agreements to accept deportees from third countries, citing the sensitivity of diplomatic communications.

They could always self-deport like they were asked to

The Trump administration began using the notorious Terrorism Confinement Center in Tecoluca, El Salvador, as a foreign prison to disappear Venezuelan immigrants in March. The Intercept — using open-source information — found that the U.S. has also explored, sought, or struck agreements with Angola, Antigua and Barbuda, Benin, Bhutan, Burkina Faso, Cabo Verde, Cambodia, Cameroon, Costa Rica, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Dominica, Egypt, Eswatini, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guatemala, Guyana, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Kosovo, Kyrgyzstan, Liberia, Libya, Malawi, Mauritania, Mexico, Moldova, Mongolia, Niger, Nigeria, Panama, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, São Tomé and Príncipe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Tonga, Tuvalu, Uganda, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.

“The sheer number of countries is absolutely unprecedented, as is including so many countries with problematic human rights records,” Yael Schacher, the director for the Americas and Europe at Refugees International, told The Intercept. “The transactional deals the Trump administration is offering up turn migrants and refugees into pawns whose rights are of no concern. This just shows what is evident from other Trump administration policies: It does not believe the migrants have any rights.”

The nations targeted by the Trump administration recently expanded as a result of a memo, signed by Rubio, which was sent on June 14 to U.S. diplomats who work in 36 countries whose citizens may soon be restricted from entry into the United States. The cable, first reported by The Washington Post, castigated countries for failing to meet various criteria — from having “no competent or cooperative central government authority to produce reliable identity documents or other civil documents” to being state sponsors of terrorism. Rubio stated, however, that concerns with such nations could be “mitigated” if that country is willing to accept deportees from other countries.

The State Department did not comment on the memo or the impetus behind it, but provided a disingenuous statement that framed the U.S. efforts to forge third-country deportation deals in hypothetical terms. “In some cases, we might work with other countries to facilitate the removal of individuals, via third countries, who have no legal basis to remain in the United States,” a State Department spokesperson told The Intercept by email.

Many observers — and a minority of Supreme Court justices — noted that the push to send immigrants to far-flung detention facilities appears to be as bizarre as it is cruel.

“Apparently, the Court finds the idea that thousands will suffer violence in far-flung locales more palatable than the remote possibility that a District Court exceeded its remedial powers when it ordered the Government to provide notice and process to which the plaintiffs are constitutionally and statutorily entitled,” Sotomayor wrote in her dissent.

Anwen Hughes, the senior director of legal strategy for refugee programs at Human Rights First, noted that there were Mexican nationals held in south Texas set to be deported to both Libya and South Sudan. “The Mexican border is right there. I’ve been doing immigration detention work for a very long time. I’ve never in my life seen Mexico refuse to take back one of its nationals, ever,” she told The Intercept. “The U.S. appears to be looking for really implausible destinations to send people. It’s not just punitive, it’s deliberately terrifying and honestly perverse.”

“Pressuring nations that are in a vulnerable situation vis-à-vis U. S. power and diplomacy to take nationals of countries they have nothing to do with is worrisome because it obviously sets the stage for some very serious abuses,” said Hughes.

The Trump administration is paying President Nayib Bukele’s government in El Salvador $6 million to imprison the Venezuelan nationals. A May federal court filing by Rubio referred to deportation negotiations between the Trump administration and both Libya and South Sudan.

Schacher said the Trump administration’s policies highlight its “disdain for immigrants,” and the premium in places on expelling them. “If it has to allow for some immigration from Africa, it will only allow it in exchange for deportation,” she noted. “It truly sees immigration as in the interest of sending countries and not in the interests of the U.S.— so it will demand an exchange.”

Due to the secret nature of agreements, it’s unclear what fate awaits people deported to these nations. The question of whether they would be deported again to their nation of origin, or another unrelated nation, where they face the possibility of persecution or abuse; be allowed to remain in the third country and under what circumstances; or be held in detention or prison, as in El Salvador, remains unknown.

Schacher noted that while almost all African countries and nations in the Americas are parties to the U.N. Refugee Convention, countries like Kosovo, Moldova, Mongolia, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Uzbekistan are not. If they were to expel immigrants they received as part of a deal with the Trump administration, they would have no obligation under international law to screen deportees to ensure they are not sent to a country where they face threats to their life or freedom.

Earlier this month, the U.S. struck a deal with Kosovo, Europe’s youngest country, to accept 50 deportees from other countries. The landlocked Balkan nation said the expelled immigrants would be “temporarily relocated” to Kosovo, while officials facilitate “their safe return to their home country.”

“I truly worry these places will become way stations or bridges for deportation from the U.S. to home countries,” Schacher told The Intercept. “Bhutan, not a signatory, has already accepted Nepalese from the U.S. and basically dumped them at the Indian border.”

“In matters of life and death, it is best to proceed with caution. In this case, the Government took the opposite approach,” wrote Sotomayor, detailing the efforts of the government to dump deportees in far-flung and unsafe locales. “It wrongfully deported one plaintiff to Guatemala, even though an Immigration Judge found he was likely to face torture there. Then, in clear violation of a court order, it deported six more to South Sudan, a nation the State Department considers too unsafe for all but its most critical personnel. An attentive District Court’s timely intervention only narrowly prevented a third set of unlawful removals to Libya.”
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>>1415825
Or they could just wait for the inevitable Abu Ghraib-like scandal to emerge in which immigrants with misdemeanor-level offenses are tortured under inhumane conditions and public outrage forces them to end the program (just like what happened under Bush).

>>1415830
>(just like what happened under Bush)
Just like something else doing exactly the same as Bush. This is just another act of distraction - due to Fucking Around & Finding Out in the middle east - by the MAGAtards' Fuckup-in-Chief.

>>1415830
It's already happening; one pregnant woman had a stillbirth because the authorities just sat back and watched instead of getting her help.
>https://nashvillebanner.com/2025/05/27/iris-monterroso-pregnancy-loss/
>“When I was delivering my baby, they didn’t even give me a little privacy,” she said. “Imagine, [a guard] was sitting right there, watching me day and night. One time, they even shackled my feet because they thought I might escape. Like I was some kind of criminal. I told them, ‘What you’re doing to me isn’t right.’”

>>1415822 (OP)
>Le illegals are LE DEPORTED???!!
Shocker!!

>>1415847
>No due process is awesome!
You're looking mighty illegal right now anon.

>>1415847
Oh my science! Noooo!

>>1415847
>>1415850
It's amazing that you people think this isn't going to hurt the GOP in the midterms.

>>1415854
Don't care. I just think it's fucking stupid that the bleeding heart libs are so upset over illegals getting deported
>>1415849
>due process for criminals
Sure.

>>1415855
>deporting to South Sudan is the same as deporting to Mexico
retard

>>1415855
i think it's funny that you're claiming to be anti leftist when trump is creating gulags like stalin

>>1415856
>please leave on your own
>No!
>Ok! Now I'll deport you
>N-no!! Senor!! U can't do that!! Reeeeeee
Retard indeed

>>1415854
>It's amazing that you people think this isn't going to hurt the GOP in the midterms
More Americans approve of Trump's deportation than disapprove.
It's probably the only policy he's net positive on. Latest pole I saw showing this was June 15 NBC

>>1415858
Republicans used to care about wasting money on violating civil rights. That was before they elected a man who paints himself orange every day.

>>1415859
I guess you haven't looked at a poll that isn't Rasmussen related lately.

>>1415859
Nope
https://files.catbox.moe/mnaec9.png

>>1415865
You are debunked sir
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/poll-americans-disapprove-trumps-performance-republicans-manage-splits-rcna212585
>Immigration remains Trump’s strongest issue
>A majority of Americans said they approve of Trump’s handling of border security and immigration
We cite news on this board, not blogs

>>1415871
No i'm not, I posted an average of all the polls updated an hour ago showing 45% approval and 52% disapproval.

>>1415874
Yes, I realized you posted an image of someone's substack blog

>>1415884
Nate Silver's site is not a blog, now you're just coping.

>>1415887
Anon, I'm on your side on this issue but Nate Silver basically has the credibility of a Wordpress blogger at this point.

>>1415890
Do you think he made up the poll numbers he's aggregating?

>>1415892
No, but I think he's aggregating bad polling numbers (not necessarily on purpose), and as a result his conclusions have been incorrect more often than not for the last six election cycles (presidential and midterm).
But even that could be forgiven if he just left it at inputting available data. What's really hurt his credibility is his claiming to have a system to compensate for bad polling data, implementing it, and still being wrong more often than not.

>>1415893
>and as a result his conclusions have been incorrect more often than not for the last six election cycles (presidential and midterm).
Wonder if that's why his whole 538 schtick was cancelled

S. C. O. F.. U. S. Supreme Court Of Fascist United States

>>1415893
>>1415896
Trump is underwater in more polls than he isn't. It's as simple as that.

>>1415822 (OP)
Daily Reminder: You can avoid being sent to South Sudan by simply returning to the country you illegally immigrated from

>>1415924
do you feel white and american?

>>1415925
Do you feel angry we're deporting your toilet scrubbers and strawberry pickers and now you'll be forced to pay people a living wage and use work visas like everyone else?

>>1415926
>we
thanks for the indirect answer, esl shill. it's cute that you get so in character for us

>>1415924
>Option 1: Return to country you're fleeing
>Die
>Option 2: Get deported to random country you're not from and have never been to
>Die

>>1415934
This is true. As you know most countries in Latin America are experiencing severe depopulation issues on account of all their citizens constantly dying. Everyone knows merely setting foot in Venezuela or Panama or El Salvador kills 78% of people

>>1415936
You think they're leaving just for fun? For kicks?

Moreover, you're not gonna believe who's responsible for a lot of the issues in South America. Starts with a C, has an I in the middle, and an A at the end.

>>1415938
>You think they're leaving just for fun?
I really don't care. I want the people who live in third-world level poverty in places like the deep south, Appalachia, and rust belt inner cities to have better lives. I do not pity people born on the other side of the globe who politicians brought in to inflate their districts for more federal funding

>Moreover, you're not gonna believe who's responsible for a lot of the issues in South America.
Yes, but you see when I advocate for ending this, you all call me a xenophobic isolationist who's hurting our global standing and you spam WWII era Dr. Seuss cartoons at me.

Moreover, I refuse to be punished for what the 1% did years before I was born. Splinter the CIA and scatter its ashes to the wind.

>>1415939
pretend to be american harder, it's not convincing enough yet

>>1415936
After El Salvador decided to arrest all of its criminals they went from being one of the most dangerous countries in the western hemisphere to one of the safest.

Arresting criminals just works.

>>1415942
El Salvador is not safe. Not only has it been found that the state is collaborating with the gangs at points, but dissidents are also placed into that same prison and afforded the same non-existent amount of rights. Anyone critical of the regime is found to be a "gang affiliate" and disappeared into a labor camp.

>>1415944
>https://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/the-war-on-drugs-in-el-salvador-a-success-story/
Oh you're right. After they incarcerated all the criminals, it went from the most dangerous country in the Western hemisphere to the safest country in Central America.
You are correct, it's not one of the safest countries in the Western hemisphere, just the safest one in Central America

>>1415947
It's very easy to say you're safe when you play nice with cartels to keep their crimes out of public eye and disappear anyone critical.
>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/one-salvadoran-day-goes-missing-security-crackdown-groups-say-rcna167741
Coincidentally, that dropping murder rate correlates to an increased disappearance rate. But hey, no one complains but the "gang affiliates" who then get locked up too.

>>1415947
Interesting little reading material here: https://www.propublica.org/article/bukele-trump-el-salvador-ms13-gang-vulcan-corruption-investigation

Odd, for such an 'anti-gang' country, they seem to have real issues with anyone investigating their links to ms-13 leaders. Equally odd how all the US issues with this went away too when Trump started using them to disappear people too.

>>1415947
>https://responsiblestatecraft.org/bukele-trump-gangs/

>>1415947
damn son, you've just been owned

These aliens have already had due process several times. If they don't want to be deported to el salvador they shoul buy a plane ticket to another country that will take them. They are not welcome in the USA and must leave.

>>1415954
>Just ignore all the reports of corruption, critics of the regime getting thrown in those same prisons, and all the human rights violations

>>1415955
>These aliens have already had due process several times
Due process isn't a thing you get a limited number of times in a functioning society.

>>1415966
A functional society also shouldn't allow one single judge to throw due process out the window and put someone on indefinite temporary status. An illegal caught by the authorities, given due process, allowed to apply for asylum, had their hearing, had their application rejected, and given their deportation order should be deported. Not put in legal limbo for over a decade in certain cases.

>>1415967
>A functional society also shouldn't allow one single judge to throw due process out the window and put someone on indefinite temporary status
I'll take shit that didn't happen for 500, Alex.

>>1415970
Literally Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

>>1415974
He did get due process you retard. The conclusion was that he couldn't be deported. Normally this would result in eventually acquiring citizenship, but instead fuckhead in chief had his goons try to disappear him while lying he's a gang member.

>>1415978
The conclusion was his asylum case was rejected in 2019 and was set for deportation until a judge swooped in because "he's in fear from gang violence" as if thousands of people in Baltimore City aren't in fear from gang violence every day.

>lying he's a gang member
You're right, totally not a gang member. He's just for some reason always seen associating with known gang members. Every time he's picked up by authorities. While working for someone previously caught smuggling illegals into the country. Where his own son testified to police that he was a gang member

>>1415974
>Literally Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
He wasn't ruled not deportable. He was ruled not deportable to El Salvadore. Ass-hat.

>>1415979
>You're right, totally not a gang member. He's just for some reason always seen associating with known gang members. Every time he's picked up by authorities. While working for someone previously caught smuggling illegals into the country. Where his own son testified to police that he was a gang member
Except he hasn't been found with any gang members, and the guy saying he smuggled for him was offered limited immunity from a government with vested interest and previous history of lying about him.

But I'm sure you have more evidence right? The fuckass tattoos you put little photoshops under, right?

>>1415978
They disappeared him because he was a designated member of a terrorist organization, and the US government cannot provide material aid to terrorists.

You're retarded besides that single case, because a lot of the migrants you're trying to defend commit violent crimes. Kilmar in particular beat his wife. He deserved far worse than deportation.

>>1415822 (OP)
This is just so fucking evil.

>>1415983
>You're retarded besides that single case, because a lot of the migrants you're trying to defend commit violent crimes
So fucking prove it. You act like there's no fucking legal method to prosecute and deport criminals so you have to be allowed to do it without due process.

There is a legal method and if you cunts can't do it that way, you shouldn't be allowed to do it at all.

>>1415982
>Except he hasn't been found with any gang member
Now you're just flat out lying. Literally arrested in 2019 with known gang members in PG Country

>>1415981
Nope, put on TPS, shielded from deportation with yearly check-ins

>>1415983
Trump beat his wives, and is much more useless and detrimental to the US than Kilmar.

>>1415986
*PG County

>>1415987
You can behead Trump and drink his blood on live television if it means we can deport all 15 million illegals

>>1415991
you're literally not american and everyone knows

>>1415986
>put on TPS
No, he wasn't, but even if he had been, that wouldn't be indefinite temporary status in violation of due process. TPS involves due process and must be regularly renewed, you dumb cunt.

>Literally arrested in 2019 with known gang members in PG Country
That isn't a finding of fact that he's a gang member. Believe it or not, but gang members work alongside non-gang members.

>>1415991
ironically if you voted Democrat we wouldn't have any more illegals
but you just HAD to simp for billionaires hiring migrants, and here we are

>>1415985
>So fucking prove it.
I don't have to prove shit. The only reason why ICE knows where these immigrants are hiding is because they have criminal records with known addresses.

The due process owed to a migrant is checking their immigration status and deporting them if they don't have documentation. That's what's happening.

>>1415995
>No, he wasn't
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/11/politics/kilmar-abrego-garcia-hearing
> Abrego Garcia was granted protected status by an immigration judge in 2019 that prohibited the federal government from sending him to El Salvador. His attorneys say he fled gang violence in El Salvador more than a decade ago.

>TPS involves due process and must be regularly renewed
Right, so an activist judge can just renew it over and over again until a Democrat Congress passes an amnesty bill. That's exactly what I'm speaking out against. In the country illegally, no legal pathway to citizenship, only in the country because one judge says so. It's no different than one judge in Texas trying to ban a legal and perfectly safe medication for religious reasoning. It's a broken system.

>>1415997
I don't want to give the illegals citizenship, I want them deported. Please, I beg you Anon, PLEASE, give me a Democrat who wants to deport illegals and arrest billionaires who hire them. I want their agricultural conglomerates and construction companies seized and redistributed. I want them locked in jail for the rest of their lives. I'll simp that Democrat candidate so hard.

>>1416000
>I want them deported
Too bad you'll continue to root for real Americans voting against their interests so this never happens.
Trump has immigrants on his fucking payroll, he's never been for total deportation.

>>1416000
>give me a Democrat who wants to deport illegals and arrest billionaires who hire them
NTA but I think the dems should keep going with what they're doing.

If these retards keep campaigning on a 'well whattabout the rights of rapists' then we're going to have Republicans in the WH for the next twenty years.

>>1416002
you're the one shilling for the convicted rapist anon

>>1416002
Unfortunately conservatives only care about conserving their wallets, and eventually Republicans will forfeit the issue for the BASED CATHOLIC CONSERVATIVE BLUE COLLAR LATINOS like they have for literally every other issue they've ever campaigned on

>>1416002
>well whattabout the rights of rapists
God, you people are fucking exhausting. Just lies on top of lies on top of lies. I don't know why these other anons even talk to you.

>>1415999
>I don't have to prove shit. The only reason why ICE knows where these immigrants are hiding is because they have criminal records with known addresses.
>https://www.texastribune.org/2025/05/30/trump-el-salvador-deportees-criminal-convictions-cecot-venezuela/
>Homeland Security records reveal that officials knew that more than half of the 238 deportees to El Salvador were labeled as having no criminal record in the U.S. and had only violated immigration laws.

>The due process owed to a migrant is checking their immigration status and deporting them if they don't have documentation. That's what's happening.
Bitch, a court did not check anyone's immigration status for the El Salvador deportations and over 200 of those people had no criminal records.

>>1416000
>I don't want to give the illegals citizenship, I want them deported.
You're retarded rejecting a working class. We're already watching industries start to fall apart because, like most countries, they were primarily staffed by immigrants.

>>1416009
Then you shouldn't have built an economic system that can't function without a constant stream of illegal labor flooding into the country.

Also, really gonna need a source that most countries on Earth cannot properly function without illegal immigrant labor

>>1416007
>no criminal record in the U.S. and had only violated immigration laws
>no criminal record
>only violated immigration laws
That aside, what you want is for each migrant to spend six months in an already strained immigration system, not due process. I don't give a shit.

>>1416000
> Abrego Garcia was granted protected status by an immigration judge in 2019 that prohibited the federal government from sending him to El Salvador. His attorneys say he fled gang violence in El Salvador more than a decade ago.
That's what I said, dipshit. The status he got wasn't fucking TPS and only applied to El Salvador.

>Right, so an activist judge can just renew it over and over again until a Democrat Congress passes an amnesty bill
He didn't fucking get TPS. That's a State Department program. Also you are bitching about due process.

>In the country illegally, no legal pathway to citizenship, only in the country because one judge says so. It's no different than one judge in Texas trying to ban a legal and perfectly safe medication for religious reasoning. It's a broken system.
A judge saying the federal government can't do an illegal thing to a specific person is not a broken system. Judges exist to be able to the feds to fuck off and we have an entire appeals process for when they do so wrongly.

YOU. ARE. BITCHING. ABOUT. DUE. PROCESS.

>>1416013
>six months
Try three years. And don't you dare add more judges or speed up the trials, or GOD FORBID make them wait in Mexico for their hearing.

>>1416012
>Then you shouldn't have built an economic system that can't function without a constant stream of illegal labor flooding into the country.
It's a miracle we ever had an agricultural sector before opening the floodgates. Who was cleaning our hotels and pools?

>>1416002
>If these retards keep campaigning on a 'well whattabout the rights of rapists' then we're going to have Republicans in the WH for the next twenty years.
Just acknowledging Republicans could have decades and never solve illegal immigration isn't the win you think it is.

>>1416015
God I hope Trump goes full Caesar and starts deporting leftists.
These traitors are destroying this country, it's annoying that we're becoming like britain and canada

>>1416018
>we
LOL

>>1416013
>That aside, what you want is for each migrant to spend six months in an already strained immigration system, not due process. I don't give a shit.
Actually I want open borders, but I'd settle for hiring more judges with the money we get from defunding ICE.

>>1416020
>Actually I want open borders
Many such cases

>>1416015
>don't you dare add more judges
a thing right wingers constantly fight against
>or speed up the trials
literally impossible, most hearings are already inhumanly short, some on the order of minutes. We just have a shitton of illegal immigrants.

>>1416014
I guess I am then. You win Anon. I am against your concept of due process. Garcia should have been deported in 2019 and it should have been impossible for any judge to prevent it. I support changing the laws to do so.

>>1416016
Get this, once upon a time we had these things called labor unions that actually advocated for peoples rights before we outsourced 50% of their jobs to China and replaced the other half with scab immigrants

>>1416021
All immigrants should be documented. Open borders are the only way to accomplish that that doesn't cost a ridiculous amount of money and manpower and fuck up our economy and society.

>>1416022
>a thing right wingers constantly fight against
Yeah I also hate Republicans
>literally impossible
I was under the impression Biden cancelled mass trials
>We just have a shitton of illegal immigrants
Yeah let's actually solve the problem instead of kicking the can down the road yet again with another amnesty bill

>>1416023
>hi everyone, i'm a pro labor union right wing shill
this is your new talking point? lmfao

>>1416023
>it should have been impossible for any judge to prevent it. I support changing the laws to do so.
So you support getting rid of the Constitution and tearing out the bedrock of western legal theory? Got it. You're anti-American. Fuck off to whatever 3rd world hellhole will take you.

>>1416025
>I was under the impression Biden cancelled mass trials
What the fuck even is a mass trial? Stop getting your news from supplement sellers.
>Yeah let's actually solve the problem instead of kicking the can down the road yet again with another amnesty bill
Agreed. We need open borders.

>>1416024
>Open borders are the only way to accomplish that that doesn't cost a ridiculous amount of money and manpower and fuck up our economy and society.
Nonsense, the current system is running perfectly.
Rich Republicans pay smugglers to bring cheap immigrant labor into the country illegally
They get to pay them pennies on the dollar they would an American
If the immigrant complains about any of this, the Republican business owner has them deported.
If the immigrant tries to complain to anyone else, they've brainwashed MAGA into attacking them
Now the MAGA retards in charge get it both ways - cheap labor they can replace for any reason, and an excuse to attack small businesses in cities.

>>1416028
Under Trump's first Presidency they were holding mass trials. A large number of people would have an asylum hearing all at once under one judge. It was a big scandal similar to the "kids in cages" thing

>>1416027
No actually, I think we'll just keep up the raids and offshore prisons, but thanks for you're suggestion.

But please, keep up the riots. Give us a reason to keep cracking down.

>>1416031
esl

>>1416032
Muerte La Raza, Muerte La Reconquista, Muerte La Atzlan

>>1416033
you sure are giving your translate app a run for its money

>>1416034
He works hard and deserves only the best

>>1416030
That wasn't immigration court. That was criminal court.

>>1416031
>Give us a reason to keep cracking down.
Things like you don't need a reason to keep cracking down, but you'll get one to stop.

>>1416031
>us
still pretending to be an American, huh

>>1416036
Could you point me to a source? Google only recommends me shit from 2025 and I think you might be right and I misremembered it. I thought it was like dozens of people in immigration court all having their asylum cases play out back in like 2017-2018 that caused a ton of lawsuits.

>>1416037
If only you fought for universal healthcare this hard! I wouldn't be losing my coverage next year

>>1416041
Sorry kiddo, Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness aren't rights.
Gun ownership is a human right though

>>1416044
you're not american and i'm not sure you even pass the turing test

>>1416044
That actually reminds me of the song "SOS" by the Glorious Sons

>>1416045
I passed the only turning test you need:
turning away immigrants!
lmao GOTTEM

>>1416047
:o

>>1416039
>https://forward.com/community/406412/i-witnessed-a-mass-trial-at-immigration-court-and-it-was-a-mockery-of/

>>1416049
By the way, this is an iq test. You fail if you read the headline and not the article.

>>1416049
Thank you, I was able to find a couple of other articles about this particular incident. You're right and I was wrong. I was misled by the use of the phrase "Immigration Court". It seems like this was a criminal trial with public defenders with felony charges. I wish I could find some more articles about similar instances, but like I said you were right

>>1416051
are you always a faggot

>>1416052
Only on days that end in "y"

Did you know that liberals always send a bunch of gay people to CPAC every year to drive up Grindr traffic and insinuate that republicans are all closeted faggots?

Why is illegal immigration the offense that you're willing to throw your morality away to fight? There is so much worse that someone can do than entering the country illegally, murder and rape and all that bad shit, yet I don't see any push to kidnap those guys off the street or from their homes to be sent to overseas to die in hell prisons. Why this?

>>1416060
There actually are quite a lot of people who want to return to tougher laws for native-born criminals. Maryland is going through a long series of controversies regarding juvenile violent crime and what is perceived as a flawed justice system that lets repeat offenders back onto the street over and over until they do something so unforgivable that the state HAS to arrest them

So in short, the same people wanting tougher immigration laws typically also want less rights for criminals

>>1415860
>non sequitur response
Many such cases. Sad!

>>1416061
Is Maryland considering sending those juveniles to die in overseas prisons? Unless they are then that's not even close to equivalent.

>>1416065
Are you asking for policies, or are you asking what Trump supporters think, because a lot of conservative voters absolutely would support juveniles being sent to overseas prisons

I guess my point was that you accuse them of abandoning their morality, but they never had any to begin with

>>1416067
>I guess my point was that you accuse them of abandoning their morality
I love being told I'm not an american and/or moral because I want to punish the people who keep advocating for human trafficking.
Unmitigated brain damage.

>>1416068
Just remind them that they believe an American is anyone who pays taxes and swears loyalty to Washington and that morality is an oppressive social construct

I don't understand how removing people that don't belong here is a contentious position in modern day American politics.

Can we find out who is funding these protests please. Maybe make a list. The best list.

>>1416073
but they do belong.
they keep being invited.

>>1416073
It's hard to understand when you don't think about it at all.

>>1416073
>I don't understand how removing people that don't belong here is a contentious position in modern day American politics.
About 1 in 25 people here are illegal (or 1 in 10 if you believe Republicans, which you shouldn't). Every one of those people has American friends, family, coworkers, employers, employees, classmates, neighbors, customers, peers, roommates, churchmates, etc.

Removing any of them creates a hole in their community for the benefit of nobody.

If you were capable of caring about the people around you, you'd get that. Unfortunately, you're a victim of conservative brainrot where the lives of anyone outside of your immediate family are worth dirt to you and the suffering of others is at best meaningless and at worst entertainment.

>>1416076
Damn bro I wish I could have a community instead of being shat on by this stupid fucking country my entire life while being told how privileged I am and to keep tugging on those bootstraps so that maybe one day I can have a standard of living considered baseline by the rest of the fucking world. I wish I could just up and leave to some place not plagued by drugs and poverty and violent crime and crumbling infrastructure and have the entire world bend over backwards to placate me. That must be really swell for them. Maybe one day Americans will care about each other as much as they do illegals who showed up a decade ago.

>>1416073
>I don't understand how removing people that don't belong here is a contentious position in modern day American politics.
The left has flow far far to the left over the past 2 decades or so.
Having a strong border and enforcing immigration policy used to be the norm across both sides of the political aisle.
There's those famous photos of Clinton sending armed military to elian gonzales's house to deport him and his family. Trump treating them with kid gloves compared to Bill Clinton

>>1416073
It's the rampant cruelty and hypocrisy of being the "Land of opprotunity" and spitting on everyone who comes here for it.

Also, actually having friends help.

>>1416077
Maybe if you actually went outside and interacted with other people you'd understand.

>>1416077
>Damn bro I wish I could have a community
I don't. You should stay inside and away from people.

>>1416078
Reagan passed mass amnesty to 3 million. Shut the fuck up.

>>1416018
>the traitor that is >>1416018 is annoyed that we're becoming like britain and canada
Good
>can't personally do anything about it
Even better

>>1416054
>insinuate
https://i.postimg.cc/9FGXbkcQ/trump-flag.png
No 'insinuation' required
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guve7Y856kY
You voted in your Faggot-in-Chief, so you tell me.

>>1416089
He passed amnesty believing it would be cruel to deport them, under the condition that from then on the borders would be properly controlled. Instead Democrats reneged on the deal and continued to undermine border controls.

So for the past 30 years we've had this shit immigration system where someone who hops the border gets welfare and eventual citizenship in place of Japanese scientists, German engineers, Korean doctors et cetera.. and now you're pushing for total open borders and screeching "FASCIST" like a deranged retard at anyone who criticizes this nonsense in the slightest.

There is obviously no point trying to reason with you, like honest Reagan once attempted. For you it was never about compassion and fairness.

>>1416063
There wasn't anything to respond to but Heritage.org kvetching.

>>1416095
Cool headcanon, gramps

>>1416095
>He passed amnesty believing it would be cruel to deport them, under the condition that from then on the borders would be properly controlled
And the 4 follow up mass amnesties passed with Republican support in the 90s?

>So for the past 30 years we've had this shit immigration system where someone who hops the border gets welfare and eventual citizenship in place of Japanese scientists, German engineers, Korean doctors et cetera
Illegals aren't eligible for welfare/citizenship and they don't reduce legal immigration channels, especially not immigration channels for industry professionals. I have literally no idea why you would think either of those things.

>For you it was never about compassion and fairness.
You're right. I'm for open borders on a purely utilitarian basis. Fuck compassion and fairness. We should do it because it makes good civic policy. We'd get way more Japanese scientists, German engineers, Korean doctors, etc, and we wouldn't waste trillions fruitlessly trying to destroy our unskilled labor base.

>>1416095
Most of the illegals either work for big business or are the direct family of other illegals who work for big business. Jail the executives who keep approving the hiring of more illegals and all of a sudden the entire incentive structure collapses entirely and the illegals go home. But that won't happen, because those people give big sacks of cash to politicians or literally are politicians.

>>1416102
Obama, Biden an the Clinton Foundation are literally flying them into the country. This isn't only a money issue, it's a bunch of ideologically driven NIMBY faggots who think filling the country with non-Americans is an objectively good thing.

>>1416148
Where do you people get this shit from?

>>1416149
https://www.themainewire.com/2024/01/obama-bush-clinton-ngo-partners-with-miles4migrants-and-american-express-global-business-travel-to-fund-flights-for-migrants-into-us/
>A non-governmental organization (NGO) partnered with former U.S. Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton is teaming up with American Express Global Business Travel (AmexGBT) and the non-profit organization “Miles4Migrants” to fund flights into the U.S. for migrants.
https://miles4migrants.org/
>From our very first flight, when co-founder Nick Ruiz used his own miles to reunite a family, our mission has remained steadfast: to transform lives by reuniting loved ones in safety. Together, we have achieved incredible milestones:
>Flown over 44,000 individuals, representing more than 17,000 families, to safety and new beginnings.
>Assisted individuals from 104 countries across the globe.
>Redeemed donated miles and dollars to book flights valued at over $16.5 million.
>Partnered with over 70 NGOs to identify and support cases in need.

>>1416151
Ahh so it's a charity which you took out of context and are pretending it's some nefarious immigrant import factory. Got it.
>44,000 individuals
OMG NOT FIVE DIGIT NUMBERS!!!11

>>1416155
>it's only one charity out of 70 bro
>it's only 44,000 people bro
You're such a disingenuous cocksucker.

>>1416164
>posts disingenous stats taken out of context
>accuses other people of being disingenuous
You literally can't stop projecting, can you.

>>1416173
>out of context
>website literally says what it does and how many people it's "helped" arrive in the interior
>it's not happening
>it's not that bad
>it's not that bad (again)
Reminder: you're hated.

>>1416177
you're never going to be white or american

>>1416151
Those were legal immigrants though.

Wait, you don't care about facts, never mind.

>>1416182
>American
>white
but those are both contradictory

>>1416177
>Reminder: you're hated
Oh no! The chudcel who fell for Trump's con job again hates me! What ever will I do!

>>1416198
You don't understand, you were told you were wrong without any documentation or proof.
You've been BTFO forever and the other lib on ths board is literally counting out pills to commit suicide after seeing how epicly burned you are.

>>1416213
Are you making the smug chud face after defeating the enemies (who live rent free in your head)?

>>1416216
Sorry lib, all the voices in my head are american citizens and collectively we outvote your dumb non-american opinions.
I'm sorry that losing is terrible for you, I'll fire a couple of real bullets out of my real gun for you down at the range as a consolation

>>1416228
your life is embarrassing

>>1416228
The reason you're so mad is because deep down you know you're not getting the white ethnostate you think Trump promised you.

>>1416266
I don't want a white ethnostate and the people that do are retards.
Kinda like you, just in an opposite way

>>1415822 (OP)
>illegals

dont break the fucking law and democrat pigs should really stop siding with criminals i know they are criminals and bastards and disgusting traitors themselves but it gets annoying

>>1416334
holy run-on sentence

>>1416334
Why should we care about a misdemeanor when a felon is currently in the white house?

>>1416268
>the people that do are retards
They're your people. They're on the same side as you are. Did you ever wonder why that is?

>>1416340
>Did you ever wonder why that is?
Because democrats are waking up whites to the reality that they are subject to an ongoing ethnic conflict in America, even if libs insist they are not on Team White.

Incidentally, Mamdani said he would be taxing white people more than other ethnic groups. So have fun with that.

>>1416359
have fun larping as a white person sweetie

>>1416360
>sweetie
You are the gayest Californian, and that's quite an accomplishment.

>>1416359
I have no idea why some white people want to pick an ethnic fight they'd lose.

>>1416361
mommy knows

>>1416362
Because the progressive wing of the democratic party has made a point of arguing that minorities are victims of systemic oppression, while simultaneously arguing that whites becoming minorities in America is a good thing.

Even if you haven't bought into white nationalism, the party crying about brown wife beaters being deported has been excluding white americans from employment opportunities and public services under DEI initiatives for years. So now we're seeing a white coalition of working class americans being built up as a reactionary force to left-leaning discrimination against white people.

>>1416372
>while simultaneously arguing that whites becoming minorities in America is a good thing.
I bet you can't name 5 democrats who have argued that.
>the party crying about brown wife beaters being deported has been excluding white americans from employment opportunities and public services under DEI initiatives for years.
Affirmative action goes back 60 years, You want to dig up some dead democrats and yell at them?
>So now we're seeing a white coalition of working class americans being built up as a reactionary force to left-leaning discrimination against white people.
No one believes the white grievance narrative outside of xitter and truth social. You're not being replaced, white people won't have sex.

>>1416372
>now we're seeing a white coalition of working class americans being built up as a reactionary force to left-leaning discrimination against white people.
Accurate

>>1416374
groypers get the rope

>>1416372
Pretty sure white working class Americans being against minorities has been a thing since before whenever the fuck you think white people started getting discriminated against.

You're a grievance mob looking for a justification.

>>1416373
>I bet you can't name 5 democrats who have argued that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0tygiX7wDc
>No one believes the white grievance narrative outside of xitter and truth social.
What you believe doesn't matter.

Minorities are prioritized to receive access to medicaid, food stamps and affordable housing in blue states on the basis of their race. DEI initiatives do the same thing for prospective students looking to enroll in higher education.

You've probably never stopped to consider why blacks, asians, latinos etc can be united on racial lines (viva la raza), while whites are explicitly forbidden from doing so in polite society.

>>1416382
>while whites are explicitly forbidden from doing so in polite society.
you retards can rally under your actually ethnicity instead of skin color. Look for other people with italian, british, french, etc. heritage instead of "NOT BROWN".

>>1416384
>Look for other people with italian, british, french, etc. heritage instead of "NOT BROWN".
Still missing the point that we're being collectively siloed by a bunch of self-hating libshits who think oppressing white people is a good idea.

>>1416382
>out of context Fox News clips from Tucker Carlson's old show
lel
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/15/us/replacement-theory-shooting-tucker-carlson.html
>Minorities are prioritized to receive access to medicaid, food stamps and affordable housing in blue states on the basis of their race.
This has always been illegal, even in the 60s and 70s.
>You've probably never stopped to consider why blacks, asians, latinos etc can be united on racial lines (viva la raza), while whites are explicitly forbidden from doing so in polite society.
Ahh so you're one of those zoomers who doesn't know any history prior to WWII.

>>1416386
>This has always been illegal, even in the 60s and 70s.
Positive discrimination is legal in America, retard. That's literally what DEI is.

>>1416382
>>1416385
>>1416389
The delusional reality rightoids insist on never ceases to amaze.

>>1416397
He’s not wrong

>>1416398
He's very wrong.

>>1416399
Reality doesn't - and will never - conform to your wishes (so why isn't the world exactly as you would want it to be if reality doesn't have a liberal bias?), therefore all your opinions are wrong

>>1416400
Huh.

>>1416400
what?

>>1416389
>that's what DEI is
No it isn't. Who told you that?

>>1416401
>>1416408
Get a room you two

>>1416572
You're replying to a conversation between at least four people.

>>1416096
>non sequitur response
Thanks for proving my point

>>1416649
You shouldn't use words for which you don't know the meaning.

>>1415822 (OP)
If they didn't want to go to south sudan they should have deported themselves to any country that would have accepted them.

It is frivolous to claim that every country will torture you one country at a time. And guess what, if every other country wants to torture you, maybe there's something wrong with you and not them.

>>1416698
Who is supposed to pay for all that?

>>1416007
>over 200 of those people had no criminal records.
Only two types of people are allowed to live in the US: citizens and permanent resident aliens (green card) everyone else is visiting only temporarily and permanant resident aliens can have their green card revoked.

>>1416699
The illegal can buy their own ticket to leave, bus tickets are cheap. There are lots of illegal supporting charities that could pay. If they don't leave on their own then enjoy getting thrown out by force.

>>1416701
lol that you actually believe this

>>1416651
You should stick to the point instead of rambling about irrelevant nonsense

>>1416704
Yes that's why Anon was quoting Heritage.org talking points.