Trump tariffs raise prices of July 4th foods, he's busy dropping bombs on Iran instead - /news/ (#1416108) [Archived: 265 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:49:35 PM No.1416108
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/06/23/fourth-of-july-bbq-food-cost/84325233007/
Your Fourth of July barbecue essentials are going to be slightly more expensive this year – that is, if you even plan to celebrate.

The Wells Fargo Agri-Food Institute analyzed costs for hosting a classic Fourth of July gathering for 10 people and found that consumers can expect to pay $130 for the food and beverages. That's up 2.2% from the cost for the same gathering a year ago. USA TODAY got an exclusive look at the report.

But in another survey by Coupon Follow, only 1 out of 3 people plan to celebrate Independence Day at all.

How much will the typical Fourth of July cookout cost?

Wells Fargo took a look at the costs for hosting the classic Fourth of July gathering using data from NielsenIQ, which tracks food scanned at retailers across the U.S.

While the cost of $130 for a gathering of 10 people is 2.2% higher than last year, the devil is in the details, said Wells Fargo: in particular the costs of beef and eggs are higher this year.

The menu priced includes barbecued chicken breasts, beef sliders, hotdogs, fresh fruit, vegetable platter, potato salad, corn bread, cake, apple pie, ice cream, beer, wine soda and flavored sparking waters.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:49:51 PM No.1416109
Here's how those main menu items fare:
Grilled hamburgers are always a crowd pleaser, but the cost of ground beef is up 7.4% over last year, said Wells Fargo. Supply and demand is the issue, with the U.S. cattle herd at one of the lowest levels since the 1950s, which is driving up prices due to limited supply.
Chicken is a good food alternative this year, with boneless barbecued chicken breasts up 1% thanks to ample supply and lower feed costs. "We're seeing record affordability on chicken," said Michael Swanson, chief agricultural economist at Wells Fargo Agri-Food Institute. Swanson said that while poultry prices are higher than they were in 2020 and 2021, they are lower than the high of 2022 when inflationary pressures sharply increased prices. Consumers' wages are also higher compared to that period, "so we're saying 'if you want to put more on the grill, chicken is the way to go,' " he said.
BBQ sauce is up 2.3% while hamburger and hotdog buns are down almost 1.5% as retailers make downward price adjustments to stay competitive, said Wells Fargo.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:50:52 PM No.1416110
How are costs for Fourth of July side dishes?

Here's how side dishes will fare:
Many U.S.-grown fresh fruits and vegetables are in peak season during the summer. Watermelon and strawberries are grown in abundance in the U.S. and prices are down 0.6% from last year, according to the survey. But your veggie plate may cost more if you stock up on cauliflower and broccoli, both up by 1.2% and baby carrots, which are up 1.9%. Cherry tomatoes are costing more this year, too, up 3.7% from last year.

Eggs play a key role on many menus, whether they are hard-boiled, deviled, or in potato salad. Egg prices have begun to ease from the highs earlier this year, caused by the national avian bird flu outbreak, but their overall prices are still 40% higher than last year, according to Wells Fargo and the May Consumer Price Index. Meanwhile, potatoes are up 1% year-over year.

If cornbread is on the menu, shoppers should expect to pay 2.4% more this year.

Apple pie costs roughly the same as last year, with prices up 1.5% and the price of a 1.5 quart container of ice cream is up less than 1%.

If alcohol is on your menu, the classic offerings of beer and red, white and sparkline wine are up less than 2%, said Wells Fargo. Root beer and other sodas are costing a little more than last year, with the liter bottle up 2% but that is still cheaper than buying the soda by the can. Flavored sparkling waters are up 4.7% from last year. If guests are looking for specific imported beers and wines, which could be more expensive due to import tariffs, it might be a good idea for the host to suggest they BYOB to keep costs down, said Swanson.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:53:08 PM No.1416111
Why 1 in 3 don't plan to celebrate

Americans’ plans for the holiday depend on their age, location, and how they’re feeling about the country in 2025.

Close to half of Coupon Follow survey respondents say they won’t celebrate Independence Day this year because they aren’t “feeling patriotic” and 44% said they feel “disconnected from American culture right now.”

National pride has dropped for some respondents, with 22% saying they feel less patriotic now than they did in recent years. However, 11% said they feel more patriotic, and 40% said their feelings about the holiday have not changed.

A quarter said the holiday “doesn’t feel inclusive” to them. Price is a factor for 10% of respondents who say they can’t afford to celebrate this year.

The top reasons Americans gave for celebrating on July 4 are that it brings people together, they enjoy fireworks or summer events, and it is tradition.

Younger generations are more likely to participate in this year’s festivities. Only 31% of Gen Z and Millennials say they are opting out, while 38% of Gen X and 38% of Baby Boomers say they plan to sit out celebrations, the survey found.

The holiday is most popular in the Midwest, where only 26% of Americans plan to skip it. At 40%, southerners are most likely to opt out. In between is the West and Northeast, where 31% say they don’t have plans to celebrate.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:54:08 PM No.1416112
How much Americans plan to spend celebrating

About 1 in 6 Americans say they will spend significantly less on the holiday this year due to inflation and rising costs.

Clay Cary, senior trends analyst at Coupon Follow, told USA TODAY inflation is a large reason why 2025 appears to be a less busy year for July 4 travel. Only 9% of survey respondents plan to head out of town.

For those who are celebrating, Coupon Follow estimates Americans will spend an average of $200 on travel, $100 on fireworks, $80 on food, $50 on drinks, and $40 on decorations.

The survey found American’s most popular cost-savings measures this year will include bulk shopping or using coupons, skipping decorations, and hosting a smaller event than usual.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 2:55:37 PM No.1416113
In addition prices of fireworks will also be higher as 100% of them come from China https://abc7.com/post/trumps-tariffs-china-could-affect-fireworks-costs-fourth-july-approaches/16783400/
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:08:09 PM No.1416114
>>1416108 (OP)
>That's up 2.2% from the cost for the same gathering a year ago.
Lol, that's a lower rate than at any point in bidens presidency.
Thank you, MR PRESIDENT Donald J Trump!
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:24:32 PM No.1416116
>>1416114
So we've gone from "we'll bring the prices down" to "we brought them up more slowly", huh?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:29:08 PM No.1416118
>>1416116
He brought prices down. This is the lowest inflation for a 4th of July since trumps last term.
Every 4th of July under Biden had higher inflation than this.
cope lmao
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:42:40 PM No.1416119
>>1416118
>It's the lowest price increase since...
Hahahaha
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 3:59:20 PM No.1416121
>>1416118
>tell other people to cope
>actually the one coping
kek
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:15:58 PM No.1416122
>>1416121
>>1416119
I'm glad that trump was able to beat bidenflation, he just beat the bidenflation rate for every 4th of July under Biden!

Thank you, MR PRESIDENT, Donald J Trump!
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:17:07 PM No.1416123
>>1416122
What meds are you taking to combat your delusions?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:20:48 PM No.1416124
>>1416123
It's called facts and reality, turd.
The lowest bidenflation rate for 4th of July under Biden was 3%. Trump is at 2.2% according to op.

Funny how you retards have to act like the last 4 years didn't exist to push your gaslight shill narrative that nobody takes seriously
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:24:01 PM No.1416125
>>1416113
>prices of fireworks will also be higher as 100% of them come from China https://abc7.com/post/trumps-tariffs-china-could-affect-fireworks-costs-fourth-july-approaches/16783400/
So it's all blowing up in the face of Little Bomber Man Kim Don-un in more ways than one.
All you loyal followers of Dear Leader, you now follow his ideology of... Jewche.
Demtards lmao
6/26/2025, 4:32:32 PM No.1416129
>inflation during 4th of July under Biden:
>+5.5%, +9.1%, +3.7%, +2.9%
:)
>Inflation during 4th of July under Trump
>+2.2%
:(
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 4:36:12 PM No.1416130
>>1416124
>>1416129
Here we see the chud's inability to cope over Trump's tariffs driving up prices faster than inflation.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:15:05 PM No.1416141
>>1416118
Don't confuse "Guys the rate went down!" with "Guys, it's cheaper!" you fucking retard. Shit is still more expensive than under Biden.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 5:22:05 PM No.1416142
>>1416141
Its because they're being a retarded shill that doesn't understand the stats they're flinging around.
The inflation rate was how much prices were increasing, so its less important that it was higher under Biden than that the rate was going down.
Kinda like how your car slows down when you hit the breaks, but still is moving forward.
So the numbers actually show high inflation starting and rising under Trump, with Biden stopping it and turning it around, and now Trumps about to kick it higher.

MAGA shills call this a 'lagging indicator' and claim its liberal lies designed to make Trump look bad.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:00:04 PM No.1416152
>>1416142
>the numbers actually show high inflation starting and rising under Trump
Easily disproven lie, Biden was sworn in with 1.4% inflation, but you knew that
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:03:22 PM No.1416153
>>1416152
lets try to make it easy for the esl shill
graph start going up under trump
graph stop going up and start going down under biden
graph going up bad
trump make graph go up
biden make graph go down
trump bad, biden good
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:04:17 PM No.1416154
>>1416152
Right before Biden was sworn in everyone was hiding in their homes for a year not buying anything, retard.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:12:34 PM No.1416159
>>1416153
>>1416154
Biden was sworn in at 1.4% Trumpflation and by 4th of July we had 5.4% Bidenflation
cope lmao
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:13:49 PM No.1416162
>>1416159
>it's another chud tries to memoryhole the COVID pandemic post
Again?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:17:45 PM No.1416163
>>1416162
I think its the same faggot who torpedoed their own argument against trans youth by showing a study that proved kids can't be coerced or forced into assuming another gender.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:19:56 PM No.1416165
>>1416108 (OP)
Are you fucking kidding me, these motherfuckers price gouged the shit out of us to the point where everything costs 40% more and you get less, like an inch and a half off your fudge bar, five sausages in a pack instead of six, far less chips and thinner, etc. NOW you want to bitch about grocery prices. Biden let them gouge us into the poor house after they started jacking up prices because of increased shipping costs which dropped after like 6 months yet the price gouging continues to this day. A frozen pizza cost as much as ordering a takeout pizza did in 2020. Cans of soda, take out the sugar and cans of sparkling water cost 12 bucks a 12 pack.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:21:14 PM No.1416166
>>1416163
Sure they can't, children are totally unimpressionable and are not influenced by adults who have power over them in any way at all.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:21:50 PM No.1416168
>>1416129
He said, and I quote "I WILL BRING PRICES DOWN RAAAGH", which is not "I WILL RAISE PRICES MORE SLOWLY RAAAGH"
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:26:55 PM No.1416169
>>1416165
Good post
>>1416166
>>1416162
cope lmao
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:28:26 PM No.1416170
>>1416169
Ahh it's you, I should have known.
>cope lmao
You've got to stop projecting so hard, bro.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:29:12 PM No.1416171
>>1416129
It was caused in the first place by Trump printing a fuck load of money in 2020 and mailing it to everyone in the country. Where do you think the inflation came from?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 6:29:16 PM No.1416172
>>1416165
Unfortunately the plan to force grocery stores to stop price gouging was rejected by MAGA retards in favor of... increasing prices on everything through tariffs.
Don't worry though, the price increases will lower prices shortly.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:03:28 PM No.1416178
>>1416171
>It was caused in the first place by Trump printing a fuck load of money in 2020
Another easily disproven lie, lying faggot:
https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/coin_calprint.htm
Biden printed more money in 2021 and 2022 than trump had printed in any single year.
Shit, Biden nearly broke money printing records for the decade, the last time someone printed as much money as Biden did was 2012 as 2013
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:07:27 PM No.1416179
>>1416178
Now that I look at this again, it's interesting. Biden printed 47% more money in 2021 than trump did in 2020. And it's *the same year* bidenflation struck the nation

Really interesting, that.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:29:40 PM No.1416184
>>1416178
>>1416179
I can't believe these faggots were telling us that the government doesn't control the price of groceries.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 7:36:50 PM No.1416185
>>1416179
>Gee, I wonder what happened in 2021, must've just been all this money printing and nothing else
I know you retards like to pretend COVID doesn't do anything but acting like a global pandemic that shut down the whole world for a year didn't happen is just outright delusion.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:05:11 PM No.1416227
>>1416178
How did money printed throughout 2021 and in 2022 cause inflation to spike in March of 2021?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:14:30 PM No.1416243
>>1416227
>How did money printed throughout 2021 cause inflation to spike in 2021
The world may never know
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:18:14 PM No.1416244
>>1416243
hey anon are you aware of how the order of months and passage of time works?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:19:53 PM No.1416245
>>1416243
Pretending to not be able to read doesn't make the question go away.
Again, how did money printed throughout 2021 and in 2022 cause inflation to spike in March of 2021?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:23:05 PM No.1416247
>>1416245
>>1416244
Your whole gotcha depends when the money was printed in 2021, does it?
Do you have that breakdown to support your argument or are you just grasping at straws?

According to that chart Biden printed more money at the period than anyone in a decade. If you are trying to say the money was printed after inflation, then prove it
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:24:36 PM No.1416250
>>1416245
Not him but if you can't see how Trump printing more money than the government ever has before in 2020 caused inflation in 2021 then your IQ is too low for this board.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:29:10 PM No.1416252
Joe a Biden first month in office 100 thousand COVID deaths

Donald Trump first month in office Zero COVID deaths
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:30:16 PM No.1416253
>>1416247
Monthly breakdown of currency in circulation showing the vast majority of new currency was added after inflation began to spike:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CURRCIR
Monthly inflation breakdown, showing the first major spike in inflation was recorded in April of 2021, meaning the price increases would have had to begin at the latest in March of 2021.
https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm
But all of this is beside the point.
You're the one claiming Biden printing money caused inflation, and you tried to pawn it off on me to prove a negative that it didn't.
Only your premise was so flimsy I still managed to do it.
Care to admit you were wrong?
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:35:22 PM No.1416254
>>1416253
>Care to admit you were wrong?
We'll accept your concession
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:37:44 PM No.1416255
>>1416254
>Incoherent non-reply
I expected as much.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:40:42 PM No.1416256
>>1416252
Welp, that settles it, I'm MIGA now.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:42:08 PM No.1416258
>>1416250
>if you can't see how Trump printing more money than the government ever has before in 2020
No, I can't, can you point it out? Because the facts say the most money ever printed was in a single year was 2012, followed by 2013, followed by 2021, followed by 2022, followed by 2018

https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/coin_calprint.htm

I know that you people *hate* facts, but do try to stay grounded in reality
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:44:11 PM No.1416260
>>1416258
https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/vendor/_accounts/JEC-R/debt/Monthly%20Debt%20Update%20%28PDF%29.pdf
First graph on the page
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:45:47 PM No.1416262
>>1416258
>I know that you people *hate* facts
No we don't but your "alternative facts" aren't real.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 9:53:29 PM No.1416267
>>1416260
Oh man your ankles just exploded by pivoting from "printing money" to "national debt" because you were losing the argument so badly
You realize these are two different things, right??
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:03:13 PM No.1416273
>>1416267
>bb-b-but they're two different things
No they aren't.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:31:02 PM No.1416295
>>1416273
How's it feel being a retard?
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:45:56 PM No.1416304
>>1416247
Just not going to respond to this
>>1416253
At all?
KWAB
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 10:48:09 PM No.1416305
>>1416304
i'm sure you're the same retard who made the thread about the einstein visa, it's ironic that you think we're fluent in /pol/shit
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:12:31 PM No.1416308
>>1416258
>No, I can't, can you point it out?
A glut of fiat currency + low economic activity + monetary velocity = inflation.
The stimulus checks and economic aid handed out by the federal government was saved by American citizens. The money wasn't put into circulation immediately. During this time all non-essential businesses were closed and economic productivity was slashed.
Inflation wasn't felt by the general public until economic activity increased. Movie theaters, gyms, restaurants etc opened up and people began spending money again. Once the monetary velocity increased, the full brunt of Trump's COVID spending plan was felt.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:18:23 PM No.1416309
>>1416308
>A glut of fiat currency + low economic activity + monetary velocity = inflation
I agree
But assuming you are the person who I replied to who stated the daily disproven lie "Trump printing more money than the government ever has before in 2020" which I debunked here: >>1416258, then that just means that yet again you've pivoted away from your failing debunked false claim
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:24:00 PM No.1416311
>>1416309
it is true though, at the time nobody had ever printed as much money as trump's administration. both trump and biden were acting in a keynesian fashion, meaning spend your way out of economic crisis as opposed to austerity measures. what trump is doing in his current term is flat out gilded age retardation, though. nta
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:28:51 PM No.1416312
>>1416311
>it is true though, at the time nobody had ever printed as much money as trump's administration
That's not true, you are still lying.
Can you read this chart: https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/coin_calprint.htm
Do you have basic mathematic literacy?
Pop quiz, choose the year with the most money printed at or before 2020:
a) $216.1 in 2020
b) $386.6 in 2013
c) $321.8 in 2014
d) $265.2 I. 2018
e) $224.2 in 2009
f) $216.5 in 2016

Think carefully. Make sure that "the math is mathin" as you probably say in your daily life
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:31:49 PM No.1416315
>>1416312
Not him but no one who has responded to you has lied about anything.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:37:05 PM No.1416317
>>1416309
Your list only says the volume of notes printed. It doesn't actually denote the total amount of FIAT currency that was injected into the economy.
A dollar is just a physical form of debt, but it's not the only kind of debt that the federal reserve can create.
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Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:40:11 PM No.1416318
>>1416312
>Unprecedented in size and scope,the [CARES act] legislation was the largest economic stimulus package in U.S. history, amounting to 10% of total U.S. gross domestic product. The bill is much larger than the $831 billion stimulus act passed in 2009 as part of the response to the Great Recession
just because the fed reasonably spaced out the reactionary printing of money for the largest spending package ever doesn't mean trump didn't do it. like i said, it was reasonable compared to the tariffs, which are nonsensical and objectively shrank the economy
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 11:44:22 PM No.1416319
>>1416317
Shhhh, just because the shill doesn't understand that their argument is worthless unless they also factor in how much US currency was destroyed in those years doesn't mean you can disregard their argument because its worthless.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:26:45 AM No.1416321
>>1416178
Was it in circulation? Because printing trillions of dollars then mailing it to everyone in the country is immediately putting the money in circulation.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:28:41 AM No.1416322
>>1416184
There's no need to display your love of gay porn I mean your hate for gay people in every post.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:40:05 AM No.1416323
>>1416319
>>1416317
>Your list only says the volume of notes printed. It doesn't actually denote the total amount of FIAT currency that was injected into the economy.
Major cope. The direct quote he (You) had was "at the time nobody had ever printed as much money "
If you aren't talking about printing money, then don't bring it up and then act retarded when you get btfo by facts when someone calls our your lie

Simply put, if you don't want to get btfo when you lie, stop lying, leftard
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:42:34 AM No.1416324
>>1416323
>Unprecedented in size and scope,the [CARES act] legislation was the largest economic stimulus package in U.S. history
do you think that money came magically out of thin air?
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:51:35 AM No.1416325
>>1416324
>do you think that money came magically out of thin air
If you aren't talking about printed money don't bring it up and then act all retarded when you get btfo
Shrimple as that.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:54:07 AM No.1416326
>>1416325
so you do partake in magical thinking. good, anon, i'm glad i can discard your opinion
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:05:07 AM No.1416327
>>1416326
way to lose an argument lol.
Better luck next time I suppose
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:07:10 AM No.1416328
the shill is projecting again. too bad he didn't successfully derail this thread about trump's tariffs being idiotic either
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:09:21 AM No.1416329
>>1416324
Don't bother wasting any more energy. This guy is worse than the schizo chud.
Whereas the schizo chud just screeches and spews talking points he read from Catturd and LibsofTikTok, this one will pretend to debate in good faith for a while, until he starts losing. Then, one of two things happens.
If you completely prove him wrong, he'll just stop responding entirely and shift focus elsewhere. See
>>1416247
>>1416253
Or, if he's losing the argument but you aren't completely pitch perfect with terminology you use, or god forbid paraphrase something, he'll lock in on that. At this point, he'll stop acknowledging any new information presented, or even any attempt to further the conversation, and just keep circling back to how the comment in question isn't perfectly linguistically accurate, even if it's obvious what the spirit of the argument is.
Even if you acknowledge the slip up, he'll just keep hammering at it, effectively suffocating the conversation until you finally give up because there's no point in arguing with a brick wall caught in a loop.
Then he'll declare victory, pat himself on the back, and move on to ruin another thread.
You can't outlast him. He'll go for hours, just hammering the same point you've already argued over and over and over again.
I'm sure there's a term for this bad faith debate tactic. He probably learned it watching Ben Shaprio or some other debate bro who taught a generation of young right wing men how to argue in bad faith until your opponent just gives up.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:12:01 AM No.1416330
>>1416329
it really is like they went to a school that rigorously trains in logical fallacy
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:44:25 AM No.1416333
>>1416172
I know, and it's bullshit. At the same time, Biden essentially just said "you should stop that" and did nothing about it
Either way, if you're on the bottom rung of the American dream your nightmare keeps getting worse and worse
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:11:10 AM No.1416336
>>1416333
>Biden essentially just said "you should stop that"
Nah, thats just your faggoty shill memory remembering slop instead of facts
He was shouted down and told that there was nothing we could do about it.
Fixing grocery prices became a Democratic policy, so it was automatically destroyed by MAGA programmed to attack anything a democrat says.
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:50:25 AM No.1416355
>>1416168
Trump isnt even 6 solid months into his second term relax. Just trust the process
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Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:38:54 PM No.1416414
>>1416355
Why would you trust anything that compulsive liar says or does?
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:16:46 PM No.1416419
>>1416336
Shouted down by whom?
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 12:31:25 AM No.1416564
>>1416108 (OP)
Part of me wishes we just had joe biden instead of trump. I feel like Joe would've been a good old boring president instead of the shit we have now
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:45:05 AM No.1416576
>>1416564
Good ol Joe, we could have has the pleasure of dealing with his 9% inflation instead of trumps outrageous 2.2% inflation
:-<
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Anonymous
6/28/2025, 1:48:39 AM No.1416577
>>1416576
you're not american, but you are a disingenuous faggot
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:14:25 PM No.1417566
mutts need to eat less anyway