Video appears to show an explosion set off by federal agents as they entered a Huntington Park home in an early morning law enforcement operation that startled a woman who was inside the house with her two young children.

The operation targeting a man who lives at the home unfolded early Friday in the 3500 block of Flower Street, where about a dozen federal agents in tactical gear could be seen on security camera video taking up positions in the front yard. Two of the agents appeared to secure something to the house's door and front window before an explosion.

Armed agents crouched behind a vehicle in the driveway entered the Huntington Park home shortly after the detonation, which blew the door off and shattered a window. A drone also can be seen entering the house.

At least one armored vehicle was parked on the street near what appears to be a Border Patrol SUV. A woman holding a young child and the hand of another emerged from the home and were escorted to the SUV.

Jenny Ramirez lives at the home with her boyfriend, who was sought by authorities, but not at the residence when Border Patrol agents arrived. Ramirez said she received a call from a neighbor telling her Border Patrol vehicles were in the neighborhood.

She said she then heard the explosion after jumping out of bed with her 1-year-old child to check on her 6-year-old.

"I just heard the loudest blast of my life," Ramirez said. "I told them, "You didn’t have to do this. You scared my son, my baby and myself.'

>https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/huntington-park-border-patrol-agents-door-explosion/3734095/?amp=1

>>1416599 (OP) (Cont)
"We were on the floor in the hallway. It was horrible."

Everyone who lives at the home is a U.S. citizen, Ramirez said.

Ramirez said the agents told her they were looking for her boyfriend. Ramirez said she was not told why, but said her boyfriend called later Friday morning and told her Border Patrol contacted him and said he needed to turn himself in to authorities.

Ramirez said she assumed the operation might have something to do with a collision a week ago in the city of Industry. Her boyfriend was behind the wheel of a Jeep when he ran into the back of a truck carrying federal agents, Ramirez said.

Federal agents said they were free to go after the crash, Ramirez said, adding that he plans to turn himself in.

In a statement Friday afternoon, a Customs and Border Protection spokesman said, “Jorge Sierra-Hernandez was arrested because he rammed his car into a CBP vehicle, causing significant damage and obstructed the work of our agents and officers during course of a law enforcement operation. During this incident, agents were assaulted, and additional rioters threw rocks and other objects at our personnel. Anyone who actively obstructs or assaults law enforcement, including U.S. citizens, will face consequences which include arrest.”

Ramirez said her boyfriend tried to stop the Jeep, but unintentionally hit the truck.

The Border Patrol operation came after weeks of immigration enforcement operations around Southern California. The Department of Homeland Security has said the operations, including ICE raids, will continue as part of the Trump administration's mass deportation plan, a central promise of his presidential campaign.

>>1416600
Before anyone jumps in with "oh but they were looking for her husband!"

1. They've released zero evidence of him intentionally hitting their truck, in fact according to him (supported by the fact he, you know, wasn't arrested) they told him he was free to go afterwards.
2. A fucking massive satchel charge door breach isn't how police serve a basic arrest warrant.

>>1416601
No I agree, my immediate thought was that a breach and clear raid should be used on a trap house with people you know would shoot back, not a private domicile.

Why would they also let him go and then rearrest him?

>>1416601
*boyfriend. Not even husband.

>Her boyfriend was behind the wheel of a Jeep when he ran into the back of a truck carrying federal agents
Gee I wonder why they were trying to arrest him this makes no sense at all

>>1416604
Why would they tell him he's free to go during the incident and then arrest him later? What happened during the incident to make them think a SWAT operation was necessary to take him into custody?

>>1416602
This goes beyond even a normal breach and clear. Look at the video; they got like 8 guys fully kitted out in tactical gear with a legitimate fucking satchel charge on a basic locked door. Fucking SWAT teams don't go this far.

And for what? A guy who hit the back of their car who clearly wasn't enough of a threat to arrest him at the time? Hell, considering ICE usually use unmarked cars, he probably didn't even know he hit law enforcement until guys in tactical gear came out. There's no REarrest by the way; apparently they let him go and only a week later called him to say to turn himself into authorities.

This is intimidation plain and simple. They don't like that someone dinged their car so they decided to terrorize him, his wife, and their infant kids.

>>1416604
See >>1416601 retard. And please explain why this guy was so dangerous they had to approach his house like it was being used as a terrorist cell headquarters but simultaneously harmless enough to let go at the scene and given a whole week before calling him to say "hand yourself over btw".

>>1416605
>Why would they tell him he's free to go during the incident and then arrest him later
"Federal agents said they were free to go after the crash, Ramirez said, adding that he plans to turn himself in."
What a weird thing to say. It's kinda contradictory, no?

>>1416608
You missed the prior statement where he said they called him a week later to tell him to hand himself over for... reasons.
>Ramirez said she was not told why, but said her boyfriend called later Friday morning and told her Border Patrol contacted him and said he needed to turn himself in to authorities.

>>1416610
So...
he was arrested for assaulting federal agents
they demanded he turn himself in
He didn't

Thanks for clearing it all up It actually makes a lot more sense now

>>1416612
it makes sense that you're stuck shilling on this dead board, shill

>>1416613
Imagine the howling if ICE called her and told her to turn her airsoft gun into the local brazilian authorities

>>1416606
>And for what?
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/huntington-park-border-patrol-agents-door-explosion/3734095/
>In a statement Friday afternoon, a Customs and Border Protection spokesman said, “Jorge Sierra-Hernandez was arrested because he rammed his car into a CBP vehicle, causing significant damage and obstructed the work of our agents and officers during course of a law enforcement operation. During this incident, agents were assaulted, and additional rioters threw rocks and other objects at our personnel. Anyone who actively obstructs or assaults law enforcement, including U.S. citizens, will face consequences which include arrest.”
So he was literally obstructing federal agents and it resulted in them being assaulted.

>>1416615
That’s not what that says.

>>1416599 (OP)
Wow.
It’s almost like ICE is a bunch of masked thugs that need to dress up as army guys and wave around their expensive toys at people weaker than them in order to feel like real men.
Weird. Crazy.

>>1416616
That's certainly an opinion.

>>1416616
Maybe you should try translating it into your native language and reading it again

>>1416615
Yeah, according to them AFTER they got caught with a fuckin counter-terrorist squad level response to a guy dinging their car.

BTW, if that's the case, not only are they lying that he was arrested at all, but why didn't they arrest him then?

>>1416621
They apparently called him and demanded he turn himself in and he ignored them.
It's in the OP article.
Dunno what you want here

>>1416622
They called him on Friday and raided his house on Friday retard. It seems they called him and then immediately raided his house.

Also why call him at all if what he did prompted THIS level of response?

>>1416622
You are fucking insane if you think someone ignoring a call asking them to turn themselves in (which didn't even come from the local police department so I wouldn't blame him for thinking it was a scam/prank) warrants this level of response the same day. SWAT teams don't use this level of ordinance unless they're dealing with a fucking hostage situation.

>>1416624
Correction: they called him AFTER they did this judging by the article saying "LATER Friday". So >>1416622 is even more retarded because this was apparently their FIRST resort.

>>1416626
You live in a different reality.
When the feds tell you to turn yourself in, they don't mean in eight hours. They mean immediately.
You probably won't get your ass kicked if you use common sense.

>>1416626
>SWAT teams don't use this level of ordinance unless they're dealing with a fucking hostage situation.
Lmao. Cops use whatever the fuck they want whenever the fuck they want. And why wouldn't they? It's not like they'll have to foot the bill.

>>1416629
Cops don't usually have access to full fledged satchel charges.

>>1416628
See >>1416627
Not only was there no warrant for his arrest, which is what they would do for this kind of scenario if he ignored a plea to turn himself in, but they didn't call him until AFTER they blew up his girlfriend's front door.

>>1416630
It wasn't a satchel charge. It was det cord. And cops get military equivalent shit all the fucking time for no fucking reason but bloated budgets.

>>1416626
>SWAT teams don't use this level of ordinance unless they're dealing with a fucking hostage situation.
You know this is easily disproven, right? Police in the US are unhinged as fuck
Hers a story of police blowing out literally every window and every door in some random dudes house, and collapsing several walls in front, because they were chasing a shoplifter
https://reason.com/2020/06/29/swat-team-police-leo-lech-supreme-court-5th-amendment/

Check out the dudes house, after the police were done trying to catch the shoplifter it looked like a prop for a Ukraine war movie
https://d2eehagpk5cl65.cloudfront.net/img/c1200x675-w1200-q80/uploads/2020/06/15081868124653-1200x675-1-1200x675.jpg.webp

>>1416628
So we agree the feds were in the right during Waco and Ruby Ridge then?

>>1416634
Nta but I think the disagreement over that isn't that fact that they didn't turn themselves in when asked, I think the contention is over the fact that is seems somewhat likely that the ATF burned down the compound (probably inadvertently) and killed a bunch of women and children on what seems to be a report one of them made up about child abuse to get a warrant

>>1416635
>report one of them made up about child abuse to get a warrant
also NTA but there was absolutely fuckin child abuse. They had child brides ffs

>>1416638
"Was there any child abuse involved in the ruby ridge thing"

There is no credible evidence that child abuse occurred within the Weaver family at Ruby Ridge that was part of the government's justification for its actions.

Here’s the context:

Ruby Ridge refers to the 1992 standoff in northern Idaho between Randy Weaver, his family, and federal agents (FBI, U.S. Marshals, and ATF). The incident began over Weaver's failure to appear in court on firearms charges and escalated into an armed siege that lasted 11 days, leading to the deaths of Weaver’s wife Vicki, their son Sammy, and Deputy U.S. Marshal William Degan.

Some law enforcement reports and media at the time suggested that Randy Weaver’s isolated, survivalist lifestyle might be harmful to the children, or speculated about possible child endangerment because of the living conditions or the family's extremist beliefs. However, these claims were never substantiated as child abuse in any legal sense, nor was child abuse cited as a cause or legal basis for the government’s siege or charges.

The focus of the government’s case was on the weapons charges, Weaver’s failure to appear in court, and later, the deadly standoff itself.

>>1416642
Yeah Ruby Ridge isn't the one we're talking about.

>>1416634
No.
>Ruby Ridge
Clinton admin entrapped a guy to commit a firearm violation (totally unconstitutional btw), blew his kid's head off.
>Waco
They tried to surrender, one fed got spooked and shot a dog, rest of the feds thought they were under fire and lit up the compound. Literally "an acorn hit the roof of my patrol car" tier shit. The cult leader did fuck kids though, he deserve to die for that.

>>1416635
Hey its like that anon said, if they didnt want to get burned alive, they should have surrendered to the feds when they were told to. Apparently all bets are off and the government can act with impunity if you dont comply.

Based. Kill all united statesians.

>>1416599 (OP)
There are people on this board actually defending ICE in this case.

Later in the evening, CBP officials said they arrested the man they were searching for, Jorge Sierra-Hernandez. They say he intentionally crashed his car into a CBP vehicle in Bell last week, causing significant damage.

It's unclear where Sierra-Hernandez was arrested.

The incident Sierra-Hernandez was arrested for occurred June 20 in the city of Bell.

According to the Bell Police Department, just before 3 p.m., officers said they were called out to the scene of a car crash, with reports that a child may need medical assistance. When they got there, they found a Jeep had rear-ended a Border Patrol vehicle. Officers said the front of the Jeep was pinned under the Border Patrol vehicle, and that when they arrived, the Border Patrol agents were working to separate the cars and get the child out. They said the driver had already gotten out of the car.

While all this was going on, Bell PD said, several people went into traffic and "attacked US Customs and Border Patrol agents and vandalized police vehicles."

Bell Police called for help from other local police departments to clear the scene and get the crash victims medical attention.

>>1416660
They think it's epic that regular everyday people are getting stomped by the boot of the feds because they're terminally online or they're foreign agents.

>>1416696
There's this really cool thing happening in contemporary politics whereby non-Americans decidedly larp as Americans and try to convince real Americans that enforcing immigration law, enacting tariffs and leaving NATO makes Trump literally worse than Hitler.

>>1416715
Accurate

>>1416696
Here's a photo of how Bill Clinton deported people: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/Jim_Goldman_and_Elian_Gonzalez.jpg

>>1416715
Those aren’t non Americans, they’re zoomers and millennials.

>>1416660
>>1416696
Read what the dude actually did.
>>1416687

>>1416719
>actually believing DHS's damage control
lel

>>1416719
>Read what the dude actually did.
No thanks, i would prefer to just knee jerk.

>>1416721
>they're breaking the law!
>no I won't trust a law enforcement agency
Shut up

>>1416719
>Read what he actually did
Had a traffic accident involving a government vehicle? That justifies getting your door blown in?

>>1416717
And he got a bunch of backlash for that, if you weren't a Russian 16 year old you'd remember what a polarizing event that was and how people thought the very photo you're showing was emblematic of what bad immigration policy and militarized law enforcement gone crazy looks like. Not to mention many people were sympathetic to elian since he's cuban and Americans think of that place as a commie hellhole that anyone with the ability to flee would.

>>1416715
>Decidedly
And you're one of the larpers. Also, since when does enforcing immigration law require mass roundups and breaching citizen's homes? Pretty sure immigration law was being enforced by immigration judges and border patrol already, but rather than work on a more robust system that allows cases to be heard quickly or considers the millions of people who have lived here for decades and contribute to society you'd rather people be picked up and deported with no process at all.

>>1416747
>when does enforcing immigration law require mass roundups and breaching citizen's homes?
When they violate immigration law en masse?

Illegal immigrants aren't victims. They purposefully broke the law and are now being punished for it. Neither are the people who keep fucking with the government trying to enforce the law.

The sense of entitlement that libshits and illegals have is actually insane. Most countries will actually kill you if you walk into their country illegally, which includes Mexico.

>>1416748
Someone breaking the law doesn’t mean you can do whatever the fuck you want to them, nor should it.
>Most countries will actually kill you if you walk into their country illegally
That’s not true.

>>1416749
>Someone breaking the law doesn’t mean you can do whatever the fuck you want to them, nor should it.
What law has been broken anon. Tell me.

>>1416748
>broke the law
except many of them (somewhere between 1-2 million) are asylum seekers who are following the law, and many others were cooperating with immigration authorities in their cases until trump started dismissing them and arresting people at court. the "crisis" of "illegal" immigration (a term rightoids disingenuously use when many of these people are surrendering at the border and following the orders of immigration judges) is entirely made up.

>>1416753
>who are following the law
Then why are they being deported?

>>1416759
why are right wingers evil faggots

>>1416760
It's probably because you keep lying to the detriment of society.

>>1416762
that's a nice description of your job, projecting shill

>>1416759
>Then why are they being deported
Good point

>>1416760
if they followed the law they would give themselves up to ICE for their deportation

>>1416767
Or self deport, as they've been asked politely to do

>>1416767
>>1416769
you can stop talking to yourself now shill

>>1416767
Or they wouldn't come here at all.
>dems coalition building off the backs of muslims, illegal immigrants, terrorists and communists
This party is dogshit.
Give us a moderate you fucking retards.

the shill continued to talk to himself

Nah, I don't want them to self deport. If they do that the US will give them $1000 and a ticket to their home country.

I much prefer the illegal aliens to keep hiding so they can regain consciousness in a urine soaked alleyway in Abu Dabi with a concussion. And bonus points for every idiot left winger who gets twenty years for assaulting a federal agent and an exploded nutsack.

>>1416775
esl

>>1416777
Someone come fix this bot; it's stuck on loop.

i love how esl shill overcompensated with a semicolon

>>1416775
>I much prefer the illegal aliens to keep hiding so they can regain consciousness in a urine soaked alleyway in Abu Dabi with a concussion.
I'm pretty radical on immigration but this seems like a bit much

>>1416759
well if you read my post you'd know one reason: the current administration is dismissing pending immigration cases and then using that fact to immediately deport, basically punishing the people who are trying to follow the law and attend their hearings. Also, I just gotta say, its pretty rich that your argument is basically "whatever the government does I approve of" without using your brain for even a second. I hope you don't end up in a prison cell somewhere without any due process or opportunity to be heard!

>>1416780
Hey, I just agree with the left wing on this issue. They keep trying to warn everyone the US is a third world country in a gucci belt and that if you aren't a straight white Christian male you will be systemically oppressed until you wind up in a death camp, but the fools just keep sneaking in like they don't believe any of that for a second.

>>1416781
>trying to follow the law and attend their hearings
The only cases I've heard of this happening is when illegal immigrants are being charged for other crimes.
Example: Eduardo Flores-Ruiz, who a judge helped escape out of her court room, was being charged for domestic battery after he hit someone because they complained about the music he was playing. Also
>its pretty rich that your argument is basically "whatever the government does I approve of" without using your brain for even a second.
You're literally arguing that ICE isn't following the law (not true) and then disbelieving anything law enforcement agencies tell you that's happening.
You've primed yourself to hate the current administration no matter what happens. You're not rational.

>>1416785
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-admin-tells-immigration-judges-dismiss-cases-tactic-speed-arrest-rcna212138
>Once their cases are dismissed, the immigrants in question may be put in expedited removal proceedings, which means they can be deported without a chance to make their cases for asylum before immigration judges. The memo notes that people in expedited removal proceedings “are subject to mandatory detention” and can be taken into custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which falls under DHS.
>A source close to the immigration judges’ union said that the move is legal but that it is still upsetting to many immigration judges. “They think it makes a mockery of the whole process and that it flies in the face of what Trump ran on. Immigration enforcement means it’s done in a fair manner ... and this isn’t fair,” the source close to the union said. Immigration judges are not authorized to speak to the media except through their union.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5337722-ice-arrests-migrants-after-dismissal/
>“The troubling thing here is that people are doing the right thing and going to court. They hear what they think is great news, that their case is dismissed. But instead, they are subject to a bait and switch and a plainclothes ICE agent will then arrest them..."
>Vadzim Baluty, a 47-year-old Belarusian political activist who was granted asylum in 2022 after fleeing the Lukashenko dictatorship, thought ICE was aware of his petition to bring his children to the country.
>He also didn’t think Aliaksandr Baluty, now 21, would be deported after entering the country legally. His son was permitted to enter the U.S. through Mexico after waiting in the country seven months for an appointment made through the Biden-era CBP One app.
So, did you lie about "what you heard" or did you just blindly trust the government without evidence?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ice-detains-marine-corps-veterans-wife-breastfeeding-baby-123108984
This shit is not okay. You can't fucking do this to people.

>>1416785
And whether or not ICE is "following the law" as you put it is irrelevant, there is no need for masked goons to be going to courthouses and arresting people who are trying to follow the goddamn rules like repubs are always bitching about. There's no need for militarized federal police to be blowing the doors off of citizen's homes when ICE and CBP have no jurisdiction over civilian law enforcement. There is no need for it, but the administration is eager to do it anyway because they know it instills fear not just in "illegal" immigrants, but in legal immigrants (just look at the college students rounded up for speaking out about Palestine) and in citizens who have a brain and have read a history book once in their life.

>>1416599 (OP)
>ITT: dems crying over criminals getting exactly what they fucking deserve

>>1416635
>>1416638
Neither of you anons, the feds didn't give a shit about those children. The ATF started that whole mess over firearms and when the FBI took over the reaction team wanted to punish the Koresh group for killing feds. The subject of molested children wasn't ever brought up UNTIL they went to Janet Reno to play on her heartstrings and get authorization to use CS gas - and they specifically left the negotiations team out of the meeting.

Source Gary Noesner's (the lead FBI negotiator) book, "Stalling for Time".

>>1416800
Yeah sure, but they still were absolutely fucking kids.

>>1416799
No one in this case was a criminal when they blew up their door; everyone involved is a US citizen, and even the guy they AFTERWARDS asked to turn himself in only seems to be guilty of getting into a fender bender.

>>1416807
They were. That still doesn't excuse the FBI's "spetznaz" approach to hostage rescue. Just making sure we're all crystal-clear that saving these women and children was never on the FBI's agenda until it was convenient.

>>1416809
Yeah we're all in agreement on that.

>>1416808
>only seems to be guilty of getting into a fender bender
Wow that's what you call it when someone rams a truck so hard that it becomes pinned under the truck and passengers become trapped in the vehicle
Lmao, I know you are trying really hard to downplay this but come on anon

>>1416811
And you know that it wasn't an accident how, beyond "trust me bro the cops would never lie!"

>>1416792
>A source close to the immigration judges’ union said that the move is legal-
So just to be clear, your argument was that the migrants were following the law and the state is breaking the law, and you've decided to prove that by citing an immigration judge who is saying what they're doing is legal, and now you're telling me I'm retarded for blindly trusting the government?

>>1416811
1. Severity of an accident doesn't make it not an accident
2. If it was so bad and intentional why did they let him go at the scene even though he literally got out his car and tried to help them?

>>1416796
>There's no need for militarized federal police to be blowing the doors off of citizen's homes when ICE and CBP have no jurisdiction over civilian law enforcement.
When the recent protests in LA were happening, Antifa was running around doxxing ICE agents and letting local illegals know when they were coming, which led to ICE agents being hurt and killed. That's why ICE is now going hard.

This isn't a game. This is defacto treason and sedition being perpetrated by leftists, who are now trying to lie as hard as they can organize pogroms against federal agents who are simply trying to do their jobs.

>>1416816
Please quote a post of mine that claims ICE is breaking the law. Hint: you won't find one because I have not made that claim, although if I was a lawyer advising the US citizens who had their door blown in by a demolition charge I would be looking to sue the agency. I do believe that they are acting outside of their jurisdiction by targeting US citizens but that isn't the same as "the state is breaking the law" (a phrasing that no American would use btw, since here state explicitly means not the federal government).

And if you really are an American then, yes, you are retarded for blindly trusting the government.

>>1416823
The reality you live in sounds very exciting, but honestly, I'm glad I don't live in it.

>>1416823
>Ice agents killed
>LA riots
I live in LA, you're a moron. ICE started going hard before the protests began, that's WHY they began. No ICE agents or federal LE have been killed here as far as I'm aware, and the protests resulted in the destruction of like 5 waymos and some graffiti on buildings. To give you perspective on how little the protests affected things, I went with my GF to the no kings protests and after a fine time narrowly avoiding the cops running us down with horses and tear gassing us for the crime of exercising our first amendment rights, we walked a few blocks away and got ice cream at a trendy place and then went shopping at Uniqlo. See also this thread >>>/p/4434813 for photographic evidence. You should stop listening to all the propaganda and get some lived experience.

>>1416824
>you won't find one because I have not made that claim
If you believe the state is operating within it's constitutional authority and the boundaries of the law, and no rights have been violated, then all you're going off of is feelings, which makes this entire conversation retarded.

Use of government power is only immoral when done unjustly. And it is only done unjustly when they exceed their constitutional authority. You don't even have a basis to distrust what they're doing, just insisting that what they're doing is unfair because it hurts your feelings. You're an emotional child.
>you are retarded for blindly trusting the government
We (real Americans) are not anarchists. Our distrust comes from state overreach, which you have already admitted isn't happening, so your opinion is worthless.

>>1416827
>and the protests resulted in the destruction of like 5 waymos and some graffiti on buildings
You do know that these 'protests' are nation-wide, right?
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/13/exclusive-watch-leftists-threaten-before-shooting-at-ice-facility-we-know-where-all-your-children-live/
>“We know where all your children live throughout the country … John Bulfin you have kids in [bleeped out], you have kids in [bleeped out],” the protester shouted. “We know everything about you and you won’t just be seeing us here.”
>“We know where you sleep at night,” another protester shouted. “We know what kind of dog food you buy your dogs.”
>“We’re not actually joking,” the protester said before shouting the location of where Bulfin lives. “John Bulfin you go to [bleeped out], you go to church on [bleeped out], you live on [bleeped out the] road. We are not joking.”
>The threats came just a day before gunmen allegedly fired shots into local ICE offices and GEO Group offices in San Antonio, Texas in what the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is describing as a “targeted attack.”

>>1416830
>Use of government power is only immoral when done unjustly. And it is only done unjustly when they exceed their constitutional authority.
God damn, you couldn't lick boots harder if you tried.

>>1416831
Wow crazy. What else? Who died?

>>1416830
Due process isn't in the constitution? Huh, strange, because I could have sworn "no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law" was in at least one amendment, maybe even two.
And I don't believe deploying federal police to blow up citizen's homes is constitutional. Nor do I believe deporting people to 3rd party countries or prisons is constitutional. And I also don't believe reprisals against legal immigrants for exercising constitutional rights to which they are also entitled is constitutional. And finally, yes, it is a moral argument not a legalistic one to say that it's flat wrong to take away the legal means for people to plead their case and then deport them, even if it is technically legal. I hate to be the guy bringing up the Nazis here but everything they did was in accordance with the laws they created too, but that doesn't mean it was just and right. I believe what is happening is state overreach, for the reasons I've explained.

>>1416831
Per this 2019 article you've linked there were no deaths or injuries in this shooting. So you'll concede you were full of shit I hope?

>>1416600
>Ramirez said her boyfriend tried to stop the Jeep, but unintentionally hit the truck.
ya... i definitely believe her, bullshit her boyfriend tried to assault federal agents with a vehicle.
Especially given the timing and that its in bloody california. that's a federal offense up to 20 years.
I'm suppose to believe this karen that they accidently rammed a truck.
I hope she gets deported with him.

>>1416839
Accidents happen and they're both citizens

>>1416599 (OP)
You just know those faggots only wanted to play with explosives. Not a single part of that entire 'response' was necessary. I've seen active shooters get less pressure.

>>1416827
>I live in LA, you're a moron.

Cool. Hopefully the next time you traitorous filth riot you're the one who takes a rubber bullet to the nuts.

>>1416840
You're gullible AF if you buy that crap excuse that they "accidently" ram a car into a federal agent TRUCK.

>>1416846
you know the feddies like to drive around in unmarked vehicles, right? and what a shock, a different article reporting on this indicates that it was an unmarked vehicle he hit!
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/mother-and-young-kids-inside-during-explosive-huntington-park-raid-suspect-not-home/
>The incident that led to the raid stems from a June 20 protest in Bell. Federal officials allege Sierra-Hernandez rammed his vehicle into a CBP unit during the protest. Neighbors, however, told KTLA that a federal agent allegedly brake-checked Sierra-Hernandez, who was driving a black Jeep. He was reportedly questioned and released at the time, but officials have not confirmed this version of events.
and that article links back to one with video from the june 20 incident, and surprise!
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/mayor-of-l-a-county-city-says-feds-seemed-to-incite-violence-at-protest/
>A local mayor who attended an anti-immigration enforcement demonstration over the weekend in Bell told the Los Angeles Times that the crowd’s mood changed from peaceful to angry after two unmarked SUV’s drove toward protesters.
>Footage of the incident obtained by KTLA shows local police officers attempting to cordon the street off with yellow crime scene tape while demonstrators, many with their cellphones out, crowded around what appears to be vehicles carrying federal officers. At some point during the incident, Cudahay Mayor Elizabeth Alcantar Loza said it was allegedly federal law enforcement in unmarked cars that incited the violence.
so no it appears you're the gullible bootlicker for believing the feds without any evidence, unless i'm supposed to know that a bright blue pickup truck is actually a federal agent TRUCK.

>>1416845
>peaceful protesters are traitors who deserve violence
glad to know where you stand, but i'll keep exercising my rights.

Y'all bitched about defund the police, so I don't want to hear it.

>>1416847
Rioting is not protesting. Providing aid to the enemies if the nation is treason. An army of illegal aliens with convictions for horrendous crimes and gang membership are enemies of the nation. Yes, you're a traitor.

>>1416858
>If I keep writing fanfic about an invasion, maybe it'll make people forget about the fact ICE is harassing citizens too!

>>1416599 (OP)
>ICE Bombs Innocent US Citizens' door, seemingly in retaliation for rear-ending them
>rear-ending them
Oo-er! Also, 'Phrasing!'

>>1416858
>Providing aid to the enemies if the nation is treason
>if the nation is treason
>if
Your making it too obvious to the rest of us, is the usual way with you of course. If you were born in the US >>1416858
As the Spartans would say in their Laconically Witty way, 'If.'

>>1416862
Even the Latinos call it an invasion. Viva La Raza, Viva La Reconquista, Gringos Out, Make America Mexico Again, Take Back Our Stolen Land

esl shill will not stop invading the american internet, will someone please declare war on him

>>1416886
Where are you getting this shit from? Some fuckass group of leftist LARPers on facebook?

>>1416858
Since you did not address the fact that it was an unmarked vehicle he hit and can only conflate protests with rioting and treason, I accept your concession.

>>1416888
"The Great Invasion: Mexico Recovers Its Own"
>https://www.desertinvasion.us/articles/art1982jul20.html

"Mexico is recovering its territories ceded to the United States with migratory tactics"
>Elena Poniatowska, Mexican Feminist

"Silent reconquest of the United States"
>Carlos Fuentes

"With all due respect to Uncle Sam, Los Angeles never stopped being ours"
>Alberto Tinoco, Mexican Newscaster

"California is going to become a Hispanic state, and if anyone doesn't like that they should go back to Europe"
>Mario Obledo, California Secretary of Health and Welfare

"Prop 187 is the last gasp of white America in California"
>Art Torres, chairmen of California Democratic Party

"We are taking Los Angeles back, house by house, block by block"
>Xavier Hermosillo, Republican National Hispanic Assembly

"Somos Mas Americanos - We are more American than any son of an Anglo-Saxon"
>https://genius.com/Los-tigres-del-norte-somos-mas-americanos-annotated

Here's just a tasting.

>>1416893
Wow, that sure is a ton of anecdotes.

>"California is going to become a Hispanic state, and if anyone doesn't like that they should go back to Europe"
also this one is just objectively true you fucking retard. Look up birth projections.

>>1416895
>"nobody is calling it invasion"
>posts short list of prominent Latinos calling it an invasion
>"Well that's just anecdotes and actually it's objectively true its an invasion"

Look, I simply believe the Latinos when they tell me "Viva La Reconquista". I'm not sure why you call them liars.

>>1416899
Those latinos are an extremist minority like you are.

>>1416900
Sure, pal. Viva La Atzlan

>>1416891
>I accept your concession.
The foreign shill always concedes no matter what he says, because of this >>1416636
>Its hard, being a Brazilian immigrant in New Jersey
More reason to make fun of the foreign faggot. More reason to be afraid of ICE, foreign shill.

>>1416893
>>1416886
>Most of these are literal who's talking about population demographics which are objectively true
>One is a politician talking about a proposition that would create a database of people who aren't allowed to use public services (which passed and then was struck down as unconstitutional btw)
>One is a song literally talking about hispanic people are American
>One is a Republican who made this statement on the 90s and also wants California to secede
You're clueless if you think this, or people saying things like "Viva la raza" (which at this point is just a stock-standard Hispanic pride slogan) means that there's an actual concerted effort or conspiracy to "invade" America. I know you're scared of the brown people saying that they exist and they won't be intimidated but you have to get over your fear and think, anon.

>>1416909
Once again, I simply believe the Latinos when they tell me Viva La Reconquista, instead of the white liberals who tell me otherwise.

Also there's no conspiracy, America just loves cheap labor and capitalism demands constant population growth. That's it. But one thing you can't refute: Anglo-America will not exist by the end of this century, and Hispanic-America will be the overwhelming majority in the South West.

>>1416910
>w-well no it's not actually a conspiracy b-b-but it's still an invasion in my mind!
>Population demographic trends mean there really, REALLY is a problem, how can you be okay with a different group of people being a majority in parts of America? Also please ignore the fact that huge swathes of this country were once literally part of Mexico.
It must be hard being so triggered by seeing people embrace their heritage. Just admit it. You're a racist loser who is scared of brown people. You can't handle spicier salsa than Pace Picante and you're frightened that one day you'll have to learn to enjoy Tapatio or Cholula. The idea of people whose ancestors lived in the southwest before it was part of the US having a sense of identity that includes that makes you weak in the knees and red in the face. Why?

>>1416910
>Once again, I simply believe foreign trolls when they pretend to be Latinos and sell me Viva La Reconquista as white genocide, instead of the sane Americans who actually live with Latinos who tell me I'm falling for an obvious shilling campaign.
Fixed that for you, retard

>>1416913
The only one triggered and lashing out here is you. I simply believe AOC when she says that the descendants of Mesoamericans cannot be considered illegal and that the land rightfully belongs to them. I believe the protestors who hold signs that say "Make America Mexico Again".

You're winning, Anon. There will be no Anglo-America. Whites will be an absolute minority. The Reconquista is succeeding. You should be happy. Why does me admitting that to you make you so angry?

>>1416918
why do you confuse being called out as a retard for anger so often

>>1416901
Yes.

>>1416918
>White rightards will be an absolute minority
Don't threaten me with a good time

>conversation dragged into muh mexican invasion rhetoric
I guess the bootlickers have no argument to support feds breaching a citizens home over a traffic accident.

>>1416930
It's like Stephen Miller is a regular poster on /news/.

>>1416930
to be clear, are they charging that he intentionally obstructed them or not because there seems to be confusion and different outlets are claiming different things? some kind of probable cause would be necessary to justify a tactical raid, and use of breaching charges, but all the reports I'm seeing don't even seem to ask that question and are leaving that as ambiguous as the CBP spokesperson's statement seemed.

>>1416862
>>1416864
>>1416891

You guys sound scared. You should be. It's only just beginning.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/federal-complaints-charge-socal-residents-assault-throwing-molotov-cocktails-officers

Unless, of course, you just sat huddled in your basements acting tough on the internet while letting others take all the risks.

>>1416944
What risks are there in bombing the house of an average family?

>>1416944
>>1416827

>>1416944
>>1416918
>White rightards will be an absolute minority
What part of 'Don't threaten me with a good time' don't you understand?
More like in Soviet America, scared is you.

>>1416943
They're alleging he intentionally hit them, a conclusion they somehow only seemed to come to after they let him leave the scene following the long process of detangling their cars.

>>1416943
see >>1416847

>>1416847
>the federal agents in an unmarked car breakchecked the dangerous domestic terrorists that's why he rearended them...
>they knew they were federal agents AFTER they rearended them but not before.
Ok you conspiracy leftist nutjob.

>>1416985
are you braindead or just paid?
>guy gets brake checked by seemingly civvie vehicle, people see it
>feds come out and start untangling cars/talking with guy
>people realize "oh shit that's an unmarked ICE car"

>>1417011
sure he did, a federal vehicle breakchecked a random civilian in the midst of a riot in California no less. at least make up a more believable lie

>>1417012
>federal vehicle
it was one of several unmarked vehicles per eyewitnesses, including the mayor of the city where the incident happened.
>in the middle of a riot
June 20 was after the large scale protests earlier in the month and the cities of Bell and Huntington Park are a 20 minute drive from where most of the protests occurred downtown
but sure, keep believing whatever a government agency tells you the truth is like a good little bootlicker.

>>1417014
ofc the conspiracy nut starts projecting why am i not surprised

>>1417015
>>1416847