Big Beautiful Bill Seeks to Sell 1.2 million Acres of Protected Land - /news/ (#1416741)

Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:43:36 AM No.1416741
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> 5 House Republicans say they will vote against GOP megabill over public land sales

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5374352-house-republicans-gop-megabill-public-land-sales-big-beautiful-trump-zinke/

A group of five House Republicans says it will vote against the GOP’s tax and spending bill over provisions in the Senate version that would mandate the sale of land owned by the federal government.

“We support the OB3 passed by the House and generally accept changes to the bill that may be made by the Senate. However, we cannot accept the sale of federal lands that Senator [Mike] Lee seeks,” wrote GOP Reps. Ryan Zinke (Mont.), Mike Simpson (Idaho), Dan Newhouse (Wash.), Cliff Bentz (Ore.) and David Valadao (Calif.).

“If a provision to sell public lands is in the bill that reaches the House floor, we will be forced to vote no,” they added.

Zinke has publicly said he would not support the bill if it mandates the sale of public lands, but a group of five would be enough to actually prevent the bill from passing, since Republicans can only afford to lose three House votes if every Democrat remains opposed as expected.

“It is our hope that the Senate Parliamentarian strips any language from the bill regarding public lands sales, but we hope we can count on you once again to hear our concerns and work with Senate Leadership to remove the provision that will tank the entire Republican agenda,” the quintet said in their letter, which was addressed to Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.).
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:44:07 AM No.1416742
>>1416741 (OP)
Republicans are seeking to pass their bill through a process known as budget reconciliation, which allows some measures to pass through the Senate with a simple majority, evading the filibuster.

The parliamentarian, who acts as the Senate’s referee on what can pass through reconciliation, has already rejected a proposal from Lee to sell off public lands. However, Lee has said he would try again to pass a narrower set of public land sales.

Text obtained by The Hill indicates that the revised plan would still sell of 1.2 million acres.

While controversial, the public land sales is far from the only intra-party fight facing the legislation. Members are also feuding over provisions related to the extent of cuts to Medicaid and climate friendly tax credits, as well as federal tax deductions for people who live in areas with high state and local taxes.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:48:56 AM No.1416743
If anybody wants to look at a map of what this would look like, here.
>https://wilderness.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/basic/index.html?appid=821970f0212d46d7aa854718aac42310
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capitalist bean counter: death profit ratio
6/29/2025, 1:00:03 AM No.1416746
Capitalist viewpoint: spend now, pay later aka destroy the planet, let ancestors deal with it
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:09:33 AM No.1416776
>>1416746
Descendants, anon. Ancestors are who came before you.
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stupid capitalist bean counter: death to profit ratio
6/29/2025, 4:59:19 AM No.1416787
>>1416776
Fuck off pedantic know it all
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:25:09 AM No.1416804
In Trumps America, everything is for sale.
Including you.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:46:09 AM No.1416806
>>1416741 (OP)
Thank fuck this bill is on shaky enough ground he actually did remove this part from it.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:25:10 AM No.1416815
>>1416806
Read the article he just wants to edit and reintroduce it
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:31:36 AM No.1416819
>>1416815
>>1416806
It passed
Oh well
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:31:43 AM No.1416820
>>1416743
disgusting.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:33:47 AM No.1416822
>>1416819
wrong. they havent voted it into law or passed it to the house, it just got approval to go to the floor for amending the bill for an additions or removals.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:39:35 AM No.1416825
>>1416822
06/28/25 11:26 PM ET
>https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/trump-the-next-100-days/5374611-live-updates-senate-gop-big-beautiful-bill/
>The Senate is still eyeing a Saturday procedural vote to advance President Trump’s “big, beautiful bill” after Democrats announced they will immediately seek to delay its final passage.
>Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) will force the Senate clerk to read the bill in its entirety, a procedural act that will take about 12 hours.

06/28/25 11:17 PM ET
>https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5375328-trump-megabill-senate-vote/
>Senate Republicans on Saturday narrowly voted to advance a sprawling 1,000-page bill to enact President Trump’s agenda, despite the opposition of two GOP lawmakers.
>The vote was 51-49.

No idea how they managed to report that it advanced before they reported that Schumer said he was going to do a 12 hour reading to block advancing it.
Or is shumer going to read it out loud for the next 12 hours and then they vote on the final passage when he's done?

Sounds like the final vote is tomorrow?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:45:04 AM No.1416828
>>1416741 (OP)
Shitty laws which will get overturned next year
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:48:21 AM No.1416829
>>1416825
I appreciate the tacit admission that they're not even reading the fucking bill they're voting on. Surely so they can go "duuuuh I didn't know it would cut medicare :)" afterwards, as if that excuses anything.

>>1416828
I admire your optimism, but holy fuck do I not share it.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:17:09 AM No.1416836
I'm watching them read the parts about defense spending now on CSPAN. So many billions going to upgrade missile systems and fund another X-37B space plane. It's a great time to be a defense contractor.

>>1416825
>Or is shumer going to read it out loud for the next 12 hours and then they vote on the final passage when he's done?
Yes. Schumer can delay it 12 hours but he can't block it from passing.

>>1416829
>Surely so they can go "duuuuh I didn't know it would cut medicare :)" afterwards,
That's what several House members did when it passed there last week.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 8:18:38 AM No.1416837
Elon is lashing out again
https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-trump-tax-bill-senate-27a762b27ace7af044a6130c060f2312

>WASHINGTON (AP) — Elon Musk on Saturday doubled down on his distaste for President Donald Trump’s sprawling tax and spending cuts bill, arguing the legislation that Republican senators are scrambling to pass would kill jobs and bog down burgeoning industries.

>“The latest Senate draft bill will destroy millions of jobs in America and cause immense strategic harm to our country,” Musk wrote on X on Saturday ahead of a procedural Senate vote to open debate on the nearly 1,000-page bill. “It gives handouts to industries of the past while severely damaging industries of the future.”
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:10:27 AM No.1416841
>>1416836
>So many billions going to upgrade missile systems and fund another X-37B space plane. It's a great time to be a defense contractor.
Billions more going into missiles, guns, and bombs, while trillions getting cut out of stuff people need to live. We are so completely and totally fucked.
>That's what several House members did when it passed there last week.
Yup. What a fucking joke. Too bad it's on all of us.

>>1416837
Fuck Elon, but he's still right.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:49:57 AM No.1416843
>>1416837
He's just complaining because he's being inconvenienced.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:00:09 PM No.1416849
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/06/28/congress/senate-republicans-tax-cuts-now-projected-to-cost-4-45t-00431416

The cost of Senate Republicans’ tax cuts has grown to $4.45 trillion, congressional forecasters said Saturday night.

That’s up more than $200 billion from a previous draft of the plan, and reflects numerous last-minute changes lawmakers have made as they negotiate the details of the domestic policy megabill now before the Senate.

The growing price tag could be a problem for some Republicans, especially in the House where many lawmakers have been adamant that their tax cuts cost no more than $4 trillion, unless they find more spending cuts.

Lawmakers in the two chambers have not resolved a months-long dispute over the bill’s cost, even as they push to finalize the plan, which they hope to get to President Donald Trump next week for his signature into law.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 2:01:24 PM No.1416850
The specifics of the sweeping tax, energy, defense and immigration package are still in flux, and it’s possible lawmakers will make additional changes to bring down its cost to the Treasury.

At Republicans’ request, the nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation also analyzed the plan using an alternative metric known as a “current policy baseline.” By that standard, the bill costs $693 billion, up from a previous $442 billion estimate.

The biggest reason for the increased price tag are provisions demanded by blue-state Republicans in the House to ease a cap on state and local tax deductions. That’s projected to add $180 billion to the cost.

Lawmakers also expanded an initiative known as Opportunity Zones that offers a capital gains tax cut to investors who put their money in areas deemed economically underdeveloped. The cost of that initiative has grown by $34 billion compared to a previous draft of Senate Republicans’ plan.

At the same time, the estimate shows a proposed hike in a university endowment tax — ratcheted back in the latest draft of the GOP plan — is now only estimated to raise $761 million, down from the $6.7 billion House Republicans had proposed in their version of the package.

JCT only examined the tax portion of the plan. The rest will be analyzed by its sister agency, the Congressional Budget Office.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:21:36 PM No.1416861
>>1416837
>The latest Senate draft bill will destroy millions of jobs in America and cause immense strategic harm to our country
Well, all you have to do is create factories in China, Elol. You already have one there in exchange for Xitter not having the right to exist there. Or build one in Brazil: at least jobs would be going to AMERICANS.
>The latest Senate draft bill will destroy billions in profits and cause immense strategic harm to me
ftfy, Muskrat.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:52:15 PM No.1416868
>>1416849
>The cost of Senate Republicans’ tax cuts has grown to $4.45 trillion
How TF did it get this high? The cbo said in their last report it was 2.2tn, and was being balanced by the 2.3 tn expected to be brought in by tariffs over the same period
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 5:57:13 PM No.1416869
>>1416868
pork
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:04:18 PM No.1416871
>>1416869
It's the conceptual opposite of pork tho, because it's tax cuts not funding.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:06:25 PM No.1416872
>>1416869
I think this 2tn Delta is probably more due to who's counting it.
The previous 2tn figure was generated by the cbo. The article says the 4.5tn number was generated by "congressional forecasters" which makes me believe it's someone besides the cbo
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:12:45 PM No.1416873
>>1416871
no they had to add a bunch of porkshit to get people like Mukrowski on board
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/28/us/politics/republicans-alaska-murkowski-bill.html
>Republicans Lavish Alaska With Benefits in Policy Bill, Grasping for a Key Vote
They rewrote it like that for lots of them, but now the differences in the bill are going to have to be resolved back in The House
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:14:18 PM No.1416874
>>1416872
last sentence
>JCT only examined the tax portion of the plan. The rest will be analyzed by its sister agency, the Congressional Budget Office.
It's going to be more than 5trillion at the rate they're going.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:15:23 PM No.1416875
>>1416868
Because the tariffs don't raise enough money to offset the trade they kill.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:21:28 PM No.1416878
>>1416875
Proof? Because that's not what the cbo seemed to think when they looked at this whole thing just a couple weeks ago
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:22:47 PM No.1416879
>>1416874
>JCT only examined the tax portion of the plan
Ah oh, so this 4.45tn is an incomplete number and doesn't work in non-tax items such as the spending cuts, that's why it's so much higher than the cbo's number
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:29:47 PM No.1416880
>>1416746
The bill act also contains cuts in the US Medicaid that millions of low income US citizens are depending . I am not American so I don't understand why they love to take it from the poor and give it the rich again and again. And the poor there still cheer for it.
I don't know, somehow they got "Robin Hood" wrong. The guy in green thighs is supposed to be the good one, not the Sheriff of Nottingham. But I guess Robin Hood counts as a Socialist Extremist there anyway.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:30:33 PM No.1416881
>>1416873
>>1416879
https://www.arnoldventures.org/stories/is-there-pork-in-the-one-big-beautiful-bill-let-me-count-the-ways
While many provisions aim to extend key elements of the 2017 tax law, they are overshadowed by costly, special-interest giveaways that do nothing to grow our economy and even less to simplify tax filing for taxpayers. We need stronger economic growth to generate the tax revenues necessary to get our fiscal house in order, but the bill neuters the most pro-growth tax cuts—incentives for capital investment, R&D, and business financing—and redirects the money to politicians’ pet causes.

In the tax space, the carve-outs add up fast. They range from narrow provisions benefiting niche industries—like fund managers in the Virgin Islands and banks making loans to agribusinesses—to much larger giveaways, including extending a Main Street business deduction to Wall Street private equity firms that own “business development corporations” and expanding the wasteful low-income housing tax credit for real estate developers.

On the spending side, the inclusion of the Orphan Cures Act would weaken the Medicare negotiation program by allowing more drugs to avoid price negotiation—a boon to pharmaceutical companies. This giveaway required the House to cut even deeper into Medicaid, sacrificing health coverage for pharma profits. And using the reconciliation process as a vehicle to expand farm subsidies that raise grocery prices hits American families twice—first as taxpayers and then as consumers. These policies should be debated out in the open as part of the regular Farm Bill process, not buried in the OBBB.

The bond markets aren’t fooled. Treasury yields have been rising because investors are losing faith that Congress will make responsible fiscal choices. Moody’s cited the House version of this bill as the final straw when it decided to strip the United States of its AAA credit rating.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:33:15 PM No.1416882
>>1416881
>expanding the wasteful low-income housing tax credit
>The Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) program is the most important resource for creating affordable housing in the United States today. Created by the Tax Reform Act of 1986, the LIHTC program gives State and local LIHTC-allocating agencies the equivalent of approximately $10.5 billion in annual budget authority to issue tax credits for the acquisition, rehabilitation, or new construction of rental housing targeted to lower-income households.
What's bad about this again?
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:34:27 PM No.1416883
>>1416881
Also, your blog post literally did not address anything I said
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:37:35 PM No.1416884
>>1416881
>TAX “PORK” PROVISIONS IN THE HOUSE-PASSED RECONCILIATION BILL
>No tax on tips
>No tax on overtime
>Enhanced deduction for seniors
>No tax on car loan interest
(I honestly don't know why ^^ isn't already a thing, it is for other types of loans such as mortgages)
>Enhancement of employer-provided child care credit
>Enhancement of adoption tax credit
>Exclusion for certain employer payments of student loans under educational assistance programs made permanent and adjusted for inflation
I don't get it, does this guy just hate the middle class or something? All of this stuff is good lol
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:50:47 PM No.1416885
>>1416884
>Guys this bill is actually great for the middle class!
>Just ignore the gutting of medicare and increase of prices that renders every potential financial benefit worthless
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:11:11 PM No.1416889
>>1416884
This is so silly of you to post. The tax on overtime and tips benefits the business owner. And is a tax write off at the end of the year. You still pay this all year then get it back after taxes. So a free loan to the government. Not to mention all this rewards is the business getting you to work overtime and paying you under minimum wage because you get tips.

All of this hurts the middle class. The “enhancement” you speak of for adoption and student loans is coupled with major reductions in those services. An overall lose for the middle class that you just happen to ignore.

This is a massive wealth shift to the rich from the poor and middle class. The rich will benefit greatly and the middle class and poor (which more than likely includes you, considering the average salary in the USA is well below the poverty line) will all suffer so the rich can get richer.

Not surprising considering this administration is the richest in history and has more connections to business and industry then any in history.

They will gut regulation, sell off all our public land, and cut taxes so the business grows, while we the people pick up the bill.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:15:52 PM No.1416892
>>1416883
He knows more than you do.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:20:14 PM No.1416894
>>1416889
>The tax on overtime and tips benefits the business owner. And is a tax write off at the end of the year
Are you confusing this with the 6.2% match employees pay for social security tax on their employees?
Employers don't pay a match on income tax for employees.
This benefits the employee massively more than the employer because the employer is only paying like a 6% ss match, and a 1.5% Medicare match, the employee pays both of those AND pays income tax on it

It's much more employee benefit than employer benefit if you stop knee jerking and consider it
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:21:50 PM No.1416896
>>1416892
I think the big beautiful turd is just that, but it doesn't change the fact that the blog post didn't address anything I said
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:39:18 PM No.1416906
>>1416741 (OP)
This will be good for the economy and our wallets.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:45:47 PM No.1416933
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-29/senate-republicans-advance-trump-tax-bill-on-crucial-test-vote

President Donald Trump’s $4.5 trillion tax cut bill prevailed in a crucial Senate test vote after hours of negotiations, setting up a fresh round of deal-making as Republicans seek to convince holdouts to support the bill for final passage.

The vote wrangling will continue Sunday as the official debate process plays out on the Senate floor. But the real negotiations will be behind closed doors in Senate offices as Majority Leader John Thune seeks to convince enough of his members to back the bill.

He can only afford to lose three of the 53 Republicans in the chamber.

A final vote on passage looks to spill into Monday. Before that, senators will have the ability to offer an unlimited number of amendments to revise the bill. The vast majority of these amendments fail, but a few carefully crafted measures may be adopted in order to win the support of enough Senate Republicans.

Trump has demanded that Congress send him the bill by July 4. The House also has to vote on the latest version of the legislation before it can go to White House for Trump’s signature.

The president has repeatedly assailed what has has called “grandstanders” — legislators who have withheld their support in order to gain leverage to have their priorities included.

Trump, who had been monitoring the Senate action this weekend from the Oval Office, swiftly threatened to find a GOP challenger to North Carolina’s Thom Tillis, one of the two Republicans to oppose opening debate on the bill. Rand Paul of Kentucky also voted against the motion.

Republicans scored a win when the Senate rules-keeper decided that a revised version of Medicaid cut proposal complied with the chamber’s rules. Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough had previously struck down health-benefit reduction plan with $250 billion in spending cuts fiscal conservatives had sought.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:46:49 PM No.1416934
But that victory is double-sided. That decision could make it harder for key senators seeking for fewer Medicaid cuts — Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Tillis — to support the bill.

Read More: Senate Republicans Restore Medicaid Cuts to Trump Tax Package

The Congressional Budget Office on Sunday estimated that the legislation would add $3.3 trillion to US deficits over a decade, a figure that could give some fiscal hawks pause.

Saturday night’s vote to open to debate at times looked like it could fail. Senate leaders held open the vote for nearly four hours, while Vice President JD Vance exerted pressure on Republicans to support the bill.

Collins said she voted to begin debate, but that she couldn’t support the bill as-is without additional measures to mitigate the effects of the Medicaid cuts in the bill. Murkowski agreed to advance the legislation on Saturday after lengthy reassurances from Thune.

Ron Johnson of Wisconsin initially voted “no,” but switched his vote after meeting with Vance and Thune.

Johnson told reporters that Trump and Senate leaders agreed to support an amendment to phase out the 90% Medicaid match for the expansion population under the Affordable Care Act. He said that Rick Scott of Florida, Mike Lee of Utah and Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming are also pushing for that change.

Johnson said it would hopefully lead to hundreds of billions in additional savings. But that plan could result in a revolt from moderates in both the House and the Senate, given many states now rely on the funding.

That amendment would likely fail given opposition and it remains unclear what Johnson and the others would do if the proposal weren’t included in the final bill.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:47:50 PM No.1416935
Utah’s Lee late Saturday announced he would pull a measure from the bill to speed the sale of as much as 1.2 million acres of federal land for housing or “community development.” That proposal had drawn opposition from Western Republicans, who said earlier they have the votes to strike the measure from the bill.
Tax and Spending Cuts

The bill includes nearly $4.5 trillion worth of tax cuts, according to the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation. But Republicans are aiming for only $693 billion of those tax reductions to count in the official bill cost — assuming they are able to successfully use a budget gimmick that wouldn’t count the extension of Trump’s first-term cuts in the price tag.

Despite broad Republican support for the tax cuts and spending increases for immigration enforcement and defense at the core of the package, party leaders have struggled to balance competing demands from the GOP’s discordant ideological factions.

Conservatives are demanding larger spending cuts to offset the tax cuts. Moderates are worried about the scale of proposed cuts to safety-net programs such as Medicaid and food stamps. And some senators from states with significant renewable energy industries are trying to soften the rapid phase-out of green energy tax credits.

Thune and other party leaders also have been trying to resolve lesser skirmishes, such as one on a provision to block states from regulating artificial intelligence.

A new draft of the bill unveiled early Saturday morning attempted to win over moderates on the Medicaid issue and conservatives on renewable energy.
Green Energy

The latest version accelerated a phaseout of wind, solar and electric vehicle tax credits to win over conservatives.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:48:51 PM No.1416936
Senate Republicans moved up a cut-off of tax credits used for wind and solar projects even earlier than they initially proposed, amid pushback from Trump on the credits. The measure would require those projects to be “placed in service” by the end of 2027 to receive the incentives, as opposed to simply being under construction by that time.

The new Senate legislation also would end a popular $7,500 consumer tax credit for electric vehicles earlier than in the prior drafts. While the initial proposal would have ended the incentive at the end of 2025 for most EV sales, the new version would terminate the credit after Sept. 30, 2025. Tax credits for the purchase of used and commercial electric vehicles would end at the same time.

To win over moderate Republicans, the bill would create a new $25 billion rural hospital fund aimed at helping mitigate the impact of Medicaid cuts, which otherwise could force some rural providers to shut down.

Collins of Maine had demanded a $100 billion fund.

Moderate Republicans also won a delay from 2031 to 2032 on the full impact of a new 3.5% cap on state Medicaid provider taxes. States often use these taxes, within some already existing rules, to draw down federal funding and increase payments to facilities like hospitals. Limits on the Medicaid funding mechanism would phase in starting in 2028.
SALT Cap

A tentative deal with House Republicans to increase the state and local tax deduction is included in the new version. The bill would raise the SALT deduction cap from $10,000 to $40,000 for five years before snapping back to the $10,000 level. The new cap applies to 2025 and rises 1% in subsequent years.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:49:52 PM No.1416937
The ability to claim the full SALT amount would phase out for those making more than $500,000 per year. A House attempt to curb the ability of pass-though businesses to circumvent the SALT cap was removed from the text.

The Senate measure would make permanent individual and business tax breaks enacted in 2017, while adding temporary new breaks for tipped and overtime workers, seniors and car buyers. It also would avert a possible August payment default by raising the US debt ceiling by $5 trillion.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 11:29:56 PM No.1416948
What the hell were all those DOGE cuts even for? Where did all that money go? Why is nobody asking this?
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:08:02 AM No.1416949
>>1416948
It's one of those 'Trust the plan' cultist things.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 12:18:02 AM No.1416950
>>1416949
aka get gypped by billionaires and brag about it afterwords
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:08:04 PM No.1416981
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/06/30/upshot/senate-republican-megabill.html
>The tax and domestic policy bill nearing a vote by Senate Republicans includes hundreds of provisions, including extended and expanded tax cuts and significant cuts to Medicaid, food benefits and other programs. It would add more than $3 trillion to the national debt. To become law, it still needs to pass the Senate — where an extended “vote-a-rama” on amendments and rulings by the Senate’s parliamentarian could bring last-minute changes. Then it must gain a second passage through the House and be signed by the president to become law.

>Below is a table that lists how nearly every provision would affect the federal budget over 10 years, as estimated by the Congressional Budget Office in an analysis published Sunday. The budget office measured the legislation as it usually does, taking into account the cost of extending expiring tax cuts. This is a different approach than the one embraced by the Senate’s leaders. The C.B.O. evaluation does not include a handful of policy provisions that do not have direct effects on the federal deficit.

>We’ve highlighted items that are still being debated and will update this page as provisions are added or removed.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:52:00 PM No.1416982
>>1416882
It doesn’t go to luxury condos that nobody lives in but people buy up as an investment
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:39:01 PM No.1416984
>>1416746
Capitalists deserve the rope
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:16:33 PM No.1416986
>>1416829
I think any admission that they haven't read a bill they voted on should be a disqualifying act of malpractice for anyone in Congress. That's literally their job.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:48:10 PM No.1416994
>>1416986
They read the bill out loud for 12 hours and no one was there.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:18:38 PM No.1416997
>>1416994
16 hours, actually, a masterful move by Chuck Schumer

Latest update, apparently the Republicans want to amend it to up income tax on individuals making over 25m a year, they are trying to amend it to have 40% income tax for that bracket
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:30:11 PM No.1416998
>>1416997
>a masterful move by Chuck Schumer
It was literally the only thing he could do to delay it.
>apparently the Republicans want to amend it
There are like 15 different parts of it the Senate Parliamentarian said they couldn't do through reconciliation which they have to amend now. The list is covered in the NYT article in >>1416981 if anyone cares.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 6:42:38 PM No.1417000
>>1416997
>amend it to up income tax on individuals making over 25m a year, they are trying to amend it to have 40% income tax for that bracket
That's retarded since people who make that much money get paid in capital gains and not in the form of a paycheck. I mean, it might affect 40 or 50 people total, but probably not since people who make that much have accountants to find loopholes.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:29:34 PM No.1417003
>>1417000
And yet this is something republicans are fighting to include… exposing how the republicans are bought and sold by the rich oligarchs of this country and are literally passing a bill to shift wealth from the middle class to the rich. Don’t worry though, I’m sure once the those rich have their cups filled it will trickle down to all you conservatives.

By the way have you checked out the newest mega yachts for them to buy? I’m sure their cups are getting close to full.


https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/news/biggest-superyacht-projects-under-construction
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:01:04 PM No.1417019
I'm calling my Representative...
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:09:29 PM No.1417020
>>1417003
Just say you're a communist.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 11:12:57 PM No.1417021
>>1417020
what motivations do you have for sucking billionaire dick this fervently
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:16:40 AM No.1417029
Schumer demands more transparency in bill changes as he criticizes GOP for policy baseline change

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer demanded more transparency from Republicans on changes being made to the bill meant to advance President Trump’s domestic policy agenda as they make the final push out of the Senate.

The Senate parliamentarian is still making rulings, and Republicans are “hiding from us all kinds of things,” he said.

“They are doing all kinds of deals with other members: backroom deals, side deals. We have to see them. And they can’t keep them secret from us or the American people. And we can’t move, we can’t get things done the way we’re supposed to unless they show us how they’re changing the bill, because they’re changing in numerous ways,” he told reporters outside the Senate chamber Monday.

Asked how and when the changes would be implemented, Schumer replied, “You’d have to ask Thune that,” referring to Senate Majority Leader John Thune.

Schumer would not say how many more amendments Democrats plan to force a vote on in the “vote-a-rama” series, but he added, “We need to show the American people in every way how bad this bill is for them.”

“You can see the Republicans are on the defensive. We’re on our front foot because we know the public is on our side. We know a lot of them — it’s not just Tillis — a whole lot of them are just embarrassed about this bill, uncomfortable about this bill, etc.,” he said, referring to Republican Sen. Thom Tillis.

Tillis on Saturday was one of only two Republicans who voted against advancing Trump’s sweeping agenda bill. Yesterday, he announced he would not seek reelection.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-big-beautiful-bill-06-30-25
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:34:36 AM No.1417035
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/30/the-gop-war-over-clean-energy-comes-to-head-at-vote-a-rama-00433839

The fate of President Donald Trump’s megabill could come down to a fight over clean energy tax credits, as a handful of Senate Republicans stage a last-minute rally to preserve wind and solar incentives from Democrats’ 2022 climate law.

Conservatives thought they secured a major win ahead of floor action on their megabill when President Donald Trump successfully urged Senate Majority Leader John Thune to crack down on tax credits for wind and solar energy from the Inflation Reduction Act.

Now, a diverse group of Republicans — led by conservative Sen. Joni Ernst (R-Iowa) and including Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) — are offering an amendment to undo the harsher language that could get a vote during Monday’s Senate “vote-a-rama.” Sens. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), John Curtis (R-Utah) and Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) also suggested Monday they were sympathetic to the push to ease the gutting of wind and solar credits.

Murkowski, a key swing vote, told POLITICO last week that Trump-backed requirements would be “disastrous in my state.”
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:35:48 AM No.1417037
The natural beauty of this country is like the best thing it has going for it. To destroy it for short term greed is truly demonic. They'll get away with it though, they always do.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:37:21 AM No.1417038
>>1417021
I don't obsess on the rich because I'm not a communist.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:37:50 AM No.1417039
>>1417038
esl
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 12:48:34 AM No.1417043
>>1416868
It's a smash-and-grab, anon. They're engaged in the largest-ever transfer of wealth from the poor to the ultra-wealthy, by proxy of government holdings and interests.

Wake up and smell the tear gas.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:25:52 PM No.1417195
Republicans are trying to sell us out and drain the USA for all it's worth. Every retard that voted for this, and the people that voted for them deserve only the worst.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:52:21 PM No.1417211
This is all very strange. I've been reading for a decade that Donald Trump was utterly transforming the Republican Party and pulling it in a populist direction. Who could have predicted this?
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:24:13 PM No.1417235
>>1417043
The BLM land should be transferred to homesteading individuals per the entire intent of BLM. BLM is not a nature preserve.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:25:22 PM No.1417237
>>1417211
If by "populist" you mean a tool for thinktank billionaires then sure.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 9:08:08 PM No.1417253
The MAGA land should be turned into a small nature preserve. Reserved for the now minority of whites that are rightards given their Fell For It Again awards, per the intent of voting for an orange thing.
Even those who were previously among this group who recently said 'I didn't vote for this' can join those who point and laugh at the insane inmates of this 21st century Bedlam.
White Rightard Lives Will Never Matter
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:16:26 AM No.1417325
I didn't want to live through the fall of America.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:29:47 AM No.1417332
>>1417325
The silver lining is that a good portion of this bill doesn't take effect until 2027-2034, and it would take a miracle for Congress and the Presidency to not flip parties in that time, running on an agenda to fix it or at least mitigate the damage.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:41:38 AM No.1417340
>>1417332
I don't know, man. I guess only time will tell but it really does feel crazy that the GOP fell in line on this shit.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 3:19:22 AM No.1417399
>>1417332
It took a miracle for trump to get elected again after his disastrous first term. Who's to say republicans won't sell another "miracle" to their billionaire dark money providers? At this point I'm not even confident that we actually have fair elections anymore. Losing in 2020 was so traumatic for the GOP that they've spent the years since making sure they can't lose again.
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:30:15 PM No.1417573
>>1417399
>It took a miracle for trump to get elected again after his disastrous first term.
It took a miracle for him to lose-- COVID, and all the confusion that caused. Then when people got their heads back straight, he won the next run in a landslide.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:25:25 AM No.1417613
>>1417340
>it really does feel crazy that the GOP fell in line on this shit
They're banking on Democrats continuing to be retarded, so they can push through whatever previously too-controversial-to-touch things they want. This is what Republicans have always wanted to do, the mask is off. If it wasn't for the Democrat Party going off the deep end with respect to illegal immigrants, trannies, demonizing all whites (including the working class) etc and alienating so many, the GOP would never have been in a position to do this shit.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 10:34:14 PM No.1417809
Its actually over. The American dream is dead. They'll laugh to own the libs but its actually fucking over. The rich won.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:45:13 AM No.1417859
I don't know how to help my parents. I have my insurance through my job but they relied on medicare. This is infuriating.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 12:46:17 AM No.1417861
>>1417573
I still can't get over that people ignored how close Biden vs. Trump was. I saw the numbers and I KNEW looking at that unless the Dems had a plan for the next presidency immediately after Biden swore into office, they were going to lose. AND I WAS RIGHT.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:57:46 AM No.1418365
>>1416741 (OP)
Commence the raping of resources. Trump is ransacking America. Good job, maga. Now you can watch you country become a third world nation.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:00:23 AM No.1418366
>>1417573
Covid wasn't a miracle, it was a project between USA and China.