https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-vows-create-america-party-trump-spending-bill-passes-2025-6
Elon Musk said he will form a new political party if President Donald Trump's spending bill passes.
Earlier on Monday, he vowed to defeat politicians who support the bill in their primaries.
Musk has repeatedly criticized the Big Beautiful Bill.

Elon Musk ramped up his fight against President Donald Trump's Big Beautiful Bill on Monday, vowing to form a new political party if it passes Congress.

"If this insane spending bill passes, the America Party will be formed the next day," Musk said in a post on X. "Our country needs an alternative to the Democrat-Republican uniparty so that the people actually have a VOICE."

Earlier Monday, Musk vowed to defeat politicians who support Trump's bill, saying, "They will lose their primary next year if it is the last thing I do on this Earth."

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Musk, who stepped away from his work with the White House and DOGE last month, has been outspoken about his complaints with the bill, calling it a "disgusting abomination."

Once the "first buddy" to the president, Musk and Trump publicly feuded earlier in June. It appeared to stem from Musk's public distaste for the Big Beautiful Bill.

Musk has called out the bill for adding to the federal deficit and said it undermines the work DOGE did to cut back government spending. He also said over the weekend that the bill "gives handouts to industries of the past while severely damaging industries of the future."

Trump previously called Musk "crazy" in response to his criticism of the bill and floated the idea of canceling his government contracts.

The Tesla billionaire has previously floated the idea of creating a new political party.

Earlier this month Musk posted a poll on X with the question, "Is it time to create a new political party in America that actually represents the 80% in the middle?" Over 80% of people who responded said, "yes."

In another tweet on Monday, Musk said the spending bill made it "obvious" that "we live in a one-party country — the PORKY PIG PARTY!!"

"Time for a new political party that actually cares about the people," he said.

When Musk stepped back from DOGE, he said he was also planning to pull back on his political spending, and it's unclear if his spending intentions have changed.

I think these guy burned all his social capital away. The left hates him, the right hates him, so who's gonna join his party?

Well it's going to pass one way or another. The only question is how many bribes/pork items for Alaska does Senator Murkowski need.

>>1417070
His support plummeted when he suggested that Americans are lazy and deserve to be replaced with migrants.

Illegal immigration isn't the only thing Trumpers hate. Immigration itself is the problem. They don't want the value of their jobs to be undercut by slave labor. Musk doesn't understand that importing the third world is not the appropriate response to Americans concerned about their jobs being outsourced to the literal third world.

>>1417073
immigration is the reason for the current united states. and you're not even american

>>1417074
>the US was built on slave labor
>you're not american if you don't want richfags to import a slave underclass
You're a fuckhead

>>1417075
you're a shill who gets humiliated every day. is it worth it?

What would musks party offer to the average person, that the other 3rd parties dont? Aside from eccentric billionaires?

>>1417078
Perhaps he just wants to cuck Republicans in 2028 for forcing him out

>>1417068 (OP)
it'll pass, the united states of israel needs cash to fund iran ground invasion

>>1417078
Musk is delusional, he doesn't seem to understand how much the general public doesn't like him. All his billions can't buy him popularity

>>1417086
Nobody has to like him, they just need to agree that he's correct about America needing a third party

I'm all for it. Split the Republican vote. The enemy of my enemy is a useful strategic asset.

>>1417089
It's not going to split the Republican vote any more than the Democrat vote. Anyone who still considers themselves reliable voters for either of those parties are never going to change their ways
What it would do is offer the swing independent voters something to vote for that isn't shit

>>1417089
You really want to split the Republican vote? Form a party that has a chance at winning who will promise to loosen or get rid of gun laws.

>>1417093
Wouldn't work. Establishment republicans historically campaign on doing X but then surrender ground to democrats.

>>1417088
>Nobody has to like him, they just need to agree that he's correct about America needing a third party
Which the self absorbed delusional will want to lead and his type of third party will only appeal to elites and C. H. U. D. s

>>1417086
>the general public doesn't like him
lol
lmao
Legitimately hilarious how you think that Reddit is "the general public".

>>1417124
How would you know? Do you go there often?

>>1417124
I like how you say this despite the massive protests he got to the point Trump was looking to declare people terrorists for spraypainting his showroom cars.

>>1417129
>Do you go there often?
Can't exactly browse 4chan at work, now can I?
Reddit is largely an echo chamber where only left-leaning extremists survive the up/down vote system. There are a few "normal" subreddits, but even they are very left-leaning.
>>1417131
>massive protests
You mean riots. Protests don't tend to cause massive amounts of property damage.
All of which were located in left-leaning city centers, by the way.
While mayors did nothing to stop them, because they agree with the ideology driving the riots.
The people taking part of the riots are domestic terrorists, whether they were spray painting "his" cars or not.

>>1417133
>You mean riots. Protests don't tend to cause massive amounts of property damage.
>Local retard mentally combines all leftist protests into one thing

>>1417134
My apologies for assuming you were talking about the latest riots caused by left-leaning people.

>>1417134
>it was only $1.6 billion in property damage and a few dozen deaths in less than a year. What's the big deal?

>>1417136
>>Local retard mentally combines all leftist protests into one thing
Yeah a few dozen people were killed protesting DOGE like, two months ago.

>>1417137
>a few dozen people were killed protesting DOGE like, two months ago.
You mean arrested? I didn't read any reports about people dying.

>>1417139
See >>>1417136
>few dozen deaths in less than a year
Try to keep up

>>1417140
Why do you want me to defend something someone else claims?
That's kind of retarded of you.

Both parties have needed a split for a long time, but the Republican party suffers the most from it. The Republican party suffers because it has neocons Israel dick suckers, the christian evangelists, strict constitutionalism, libertarians that can't vote for that clown party, and then you "MAGAs", which are mostly conservative people, but they don't give a shit about social policies, they're just tired of wars, Israel, and race and gender politics being shoved into everything. There's not a ton of overlap between these groups. Most of them hate each other, but they are all against the bullshit the Democrats want

The Democrats are trying very hard to split, but the problem they're having is that full blown communist and socialist candidates are hurt establishment Democrats that overlap the Republican neocons

A few dozen deaths?
Are you confusing the 2020 riots for the people who were burning Teslas?

>>1417254
The two party American system is designed to not be able to split. That is the basis of 'Big Tent Politics' where every leftist ideology is in one tent and every right wing ideology is in another.
>>1417256
It's just a meme

>>1417254
We seriously do need a third choice that doesn't care about other countries or genders and just makes it so Americans can FUCKING AFFORD THINGS
Unfortunately what the leadership within Repubs, Dems, and Elon's new party is that money is no object to them and they don't care that its a problem for everyone else. This is a serious problem but to be rich enough to get the votes means you're so divorced from the reality that everyone else has to live in.

>>1417287
H. Ross Perot tried that in the 90s, which led to Bill Clinton getting elected.

>>1417124
Legitimately hilarious that you spend so much time on reddit you think that they're the only people who hate Elon. Go back, new friend.

>>1417472
What drove you to make this self-own of a post?

>>1417589
why do you subject yourself to daily humiliation

>>1417068 (OP)
>Elon Musk ramped up his fight against President Donald Trump
I have a genuine question for the MAGA folk - does it genuinely not make you pause at all that Trump is now actively feuding with like 80% of his former friends and staff? All of these people who he used to say were great and wonderful and the best people for the job are now his enemy and he's completely 180d on his opinion of them? He's done this dozens of times. Is this something you think about at all or does it not even register?

>>1417590
Mostly boredom at work. Can't exactly browse 4chan in the office.

>>1417591
I'm not in the MAGA cult, but I feel like I could offer a valuable viewpoint as I am also not in the woke cult you're part of:

Right-leaning people value emotional bonds much less than left-leaning people.
You can have two Republicans shit talk each other a lot, but the moment it becomes profitable for them to work together, they will work together without issue.
They can speak negatively about each other for years and years, but that can change at any moment.
Democrats on the other hand tend to hold personal grudges for sometimes forever, as they all believe that what they believe in is righteous. And why would you ever concede on a righteous point?

As for you thinking that "80%" of his "friends" have turned against him, this is because you live within an echo chamber. You only see the negative side of things over and over again, which leads you to believe in a false reality.
I hope this perspective proves useful to you.

>>1417595
esl shill, why do you try this hard when we all easily see through your pathetic ruse

>>1417595
I like how there are only two choices in your book, woke or maga. Very narrow worldview.

>>1417605
Those are two largest political groups of our time, whether you like it or not.
Smaller ones might as well not matter.
Also, you forgot about the third option (which was only indirectly mentioned): those who are part of neither group.

>>1417605
Its just recycling a legitimate Dem criticism of Republican bullshit and flipping it to be against Democrats.
The religious right still circles around Trump, speaks in voices, and claims that they're fighting with God on their side so everyone else has to lose because of it.

And the shill is probably dumb enough to believe they're somehow above both sides even though they unironically shill for Republicunts every day to drown out the sounds of his mother whoring herself out to immigrants

>>1417591
Not really.

There is always going to be employees, campaign contributors, underlings etc who try to ingratiate themselves with leadership to get a steady paycheck. It happens more often than you think. But you can tell who the fake people are almost immediately because they don't fit in with the culture, which also means that they will invariably be on their way out soon. Musk fell into that category.

>>1417614
You're so confident in your worldview that you're only brave enough to denigrate me and my statements indirectly.
Call me a "shill" (for what, exactly?) all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you have nothing left to defend your viewpoint with.
Is this why you resort to namecalling? To create a lager of protection where there is none?

>>1417615
>>1417616
faggot

>>1417610
>Those are two largest political groups of our time, whether you like it or not.
Not even close. Where do you people get this shit from?

>>1417619
Is this the part where you go
>well ackshually if you count all the non-western countries...

>>1417621
so you're not from the west?

>>1417605
See >>1417615
We voted for Trump because democrats were importing the third world and using institutions of power outside the conventional government apparatus to wage war against us using identity politics. He was the alternative.

Republicans are guilty of supporting this too admittedly. Musk wants to supplant working class Americans with a cheap slave underclass that can be deported if they get uppity and ask for equal labor rights. That's why he was dropped.

Retards keep pretending that MAGA is a cult of personality instead of a mad grab for a rope as we're quickly sliding down the mountain.

>>1417624
>we
LOL. LMAO. you're shameless, shill anon

>>1417605
>woke
A word only used by those as a replacement for the phrase 'Politically Correct'. There's a very good reason why that phrase has that last word. Because in this reality which has a liberal bias - otherwise the world would be exactly as you would want it to be before Trump was born - those who aren't MAGA will always have the last word. And those who aren't MAGA will always be correct.
Post-Romney's defeat, Teabaggers/Teatards will never be correct due to they not existing anymore. MAGA & Trumptardism will go the same way after that orange thing takes its last trip on Marine One, and the pre-'I didn't vote for this' Republicans will speed up that process in the midterms. It's the only form of 'Accelerationism' that'll happen. With no orange god after 20th January 2029, it'll be over for that cult. Like the Teabaggers, MAGA will die. Good.

>>1417626
I keep forgetting that plural pronouns trigger you, my bad dawg

>>1417628
you keep being reminded that you're an esl shill larping as a white american, and somehow you still don't desire a new (real) job

>>1417627
Jesus, how far gone do you have to be to make this entire post?

>>1417627
>it'll be over for that cult
Yeah we'll go back to accepting the democratic line on men becoming pregnant again, it was only Trump preventing us from seeing the truth

>>1417629
You may identify as an american, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with you

>>1417633
Your reply to that post proves how too far gone in the cult you are

>>1417634
>we
LOL

>>1417629
>you keep being reminded that you're an esl shill larping as a white american
Different anon. You're attributing those things to me (>>1417595).
Also, I never claimed that I was American. And you also still haven't explained what you're accusing me of shilling.

>>1417638
you're trying way too hard now, the post count has exploded with your damage control. just get a real job faggot

>>1417634
>truth
Subjective so-called 'Truth' is lies.
Sane non-MAGAts only accept facts.

>>1417638
This guy regularly accuses random anons here of not being American.
Go to a /news/ archive, search for "you're not american". He's does this shit daily for actual years.

angry esl shill exhibit right above me, exclusive rare opportunity

>>1417634
>it was only Trump preventing us from seeing the truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guve7Y856kY
That aged well

>>1417640
Facts like unlimited open borders and abolishing the police?

>>1417645
facts like "you're a faggot"

>>1417645
>unlimited open borders
>Trump had illegals build Trump Tower and not paying white American-born citizens a beyond-minimum wage with medical benefits to do so
You tell me

>>1417646
I'm glad the dems ruled that monkeypox outbreaks in gay communities was just dangerous misinformation, otherwise you'd be really fucked for pride month.

>>1417652
you sound upset, esl shill

>>1417649
He used mob connections to build trump tower, not immigrants.

>>1417070
>The left hates him, the right hates him, so who's gonna join his party?
loser faggot independents who need money for a campaign, so basically everyone. Even if his candidate doesn't win, the one that does needs to beg money for kickups to get committee seats, so he can just outbuy the winner. Honestly though if he wanted to break up the republican democrat duopoly, he should just bankroll campaigns to change the voting system to rcv or approval.

>>1417696
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/rubio-campaign-press-release-fact-check-donald-trump-used-illegal-immigrants-build-trump
Facts make things worse for not only you

>boring non-story that isn't news
73 useless replies by retards about nothing.

>>1417068 (OP)
I'm waiting

>>1417642
He's right though

>>1418026
He's just going to pay for Andrew Yang to run again.

>>1417736
Why did you even come to this board?