Trans teenager's chess tournament win sparks call for government bans - /news/ (#1417893)

Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:38:51 AM No.1417893
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/trans-teen-chess-win-germany-192521074.html
In competitive chess, where the clash of queens and bishops usually eclipses cultural warfare, a teenage girl has found herself at the center of Germany’s latest front in the debate over transgender women’s inclusion in sports.

Nora Heidemann, 17, a trans girl from North Rhine-Westphalia, made history this month by winning Germany’s under-18 girls’ chess championship, scoring 7.5 out of nine points and outperforming 27 rivals. Her victory, reported by Apollo News, a German political news outlet, and later detailed in The Times of London, has triggered a fierce conversation over who belongs in women’s competitions — even in pursuits where brainpower, not physical power, rules the day.

Heidemann’s competed in the open U18 division at her state-level event but failed to qualify directly, according to Apollo News. Her legal gender change was finalized only after the deadline for girls’ registration had passed. Ultimately, she secured one of five discretionary “free places,” awarded based on performance ratings, not gender identity, the outlet reports.

Still, her win has fueled skepticism from some quarters of the German chess community. Nadja Jussupow, head of the German Commission for Women’s Chess and a former champion, stated that more trans women have been entering women’s tournaments since Germany’s Self-Determination Act took effect in 2021. The Times reports that she claimed some cisgender women players were considering quitting, fearing unfair competition.

Jussupow suggested a one-year waiting period for newly legally recognized trans women before competing in women’s categories, a proposal that reportedly found support among some women’s chess referees.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 2:39:09 AM No.1417894
The German Chess Federation has rejected any ban, citing Germany’s new legal protections and stressing that “chess is diverse and inclusive.” Federation president Ingrid Lauterbach condemned the discriminatory backlash Heidemann has faced on social media, saying, “We’re an inclusive sport and want to be so.”

Internationally, the World Chess Federation imposed a temporary ban in 2023, preventing trans women from women’s tournaments pending further review — a rule Germany opposes, pointing out that a trans woman had already claimed a national women’s title in the early 2000s, Apollo News reports.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:11:23 AM No.1417903
It’s fucking chess. Who cares if she’s trans? Why would gender matter here at all? Why are there male and female divisions in this to begin with?
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:27:08 AM No.1417909
>>1417893 (OP)
No, transwomen in mental games should be okay. It's not arm wrestling. It is chess. Women are fine.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:33:04 AM No.1417910
>>1417903
>>1417909
Women are not as intelligent as men. The worst professional male chess player can easily beat the best women's player. No woman can even stand a chance against the best male player. It's why they have gender categories to begin with.
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look like a woman think like a Man
7/4/2025, 6:11:23 AM No.1417954
>>1417910
Chess depends upon only a certain kind of intelligence, retard. Woman have creative intelligence. This is why they make the best painters and artists and novelists. Men and women should have separate categories in things like the Nobel prize in literature or an academy award for writing. This is why men always lose to women and these type of awards
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:40:30 AM No.1418005
>>1417893 (OP)
If Garry Kasparov can be beaten by that which doesn't have a gender, then bigots don't have the right to have wrong opinions.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:45:15 AM No.1418006
>>1417903
>Why are there male and female divisions in this to begin with?
There isn't one. Men and women can compete in chess championships. Always have.

HOWEVER, hundreds of years later men are still dominating chess to the point that women needed their own exclusive league within the game. And now we have trannies entering that league and crushing women.

Many such cases.

>Why would gender matter here at all?
Why are there no champion female Starcraft players? In before Scarlett, that trans Canadian.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:57:41 PM No.1418018
>>1418006
>And now we have trannies entering that league and crushing women.
This would imply an inherent unfair advantage, with the only explanation being that men are just inherently smarter and better at everything.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:19:00 PM No.1418020
>>1418018
I mean we go through this bullshit everyday on /news/. It's only a matter of time before we get that same anon crying how
>there are no trans 1st place winners in X sport
>they'll lose to a woman at some point
>we're worried about 0.00000001% of people in sports
>what unfair advantages?
>muh testosterone levels
and so on, etc. etc.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:46:10 PM No.1418022
>>1417903
>>1417903
>>1417903

Are you trying to imply women are smarter than men? How sexist of you.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:47:10 PM No.1418023
>>1417909

So men are smarter than women? What a sexist thing to say.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 4:48:21 PM No.1418024
>>1417954
>>1417954
>>1417954

Do you have a single fact to back that claim up redditor?
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Eliocentrico
7/4/2025, 4:53:18 PM No.1418025
We need to do act fucking normal and rational and not turn everything into some shitshow. Who tf cares it's chess. Nobody should care about the gender of the players or whatever.
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:10:17 PM No.1418031
Awww, the local tranny lover is so excited over Trump harming brown people that they're in a fent fuelled tranny frenzy here

They sure love looking up info about trannies, looking at pictures of trannies, talking about how trannies belong underneath them. You can tell they spend most of their day utterly obsessed about trannies. `
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:25:45 PM No.1418034
>>1418024
>>1418031
Get a room you two
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:59:01 PM No.1418037
>teenage girl
>a trans girl
>ultimately, she
>she claimed
>herself
>her state-level
>Her legal
>her win
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 7:46:16 PM No.1418045
>>1418037
>they're men dammit
>beautiful, slim, little femboys
>not women
>fucking women is gay
>fucking femboys is based
>stop the femboy genocide
>free the bussy
just 41% yourself
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 8:43:05 PM No.1418054
>>1417954
>Woman have creative intelligence.
No
>This is why they make the best painters and artists and novelists.
No. The best painters and novelists are all men. You're welcome to keep proving yourself retarded
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:20:16 PM No.1418060
wait so was queens gambit based on a true story I thought women have superior mental fortitude
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:02:58 PM No.1418066
>>1417910
>>1417954
>>1418054
Actually, there is no rational reason for chess to have separated categories based on gender.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHFZOXiM9SM
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 10:41:39 PM No.1418070
>>1417893 (OP)
I support trannies in sport solely because they routinely humiliate women
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:04:07 PM No.1418071
>>1418070
Chess isn't really a sport you know
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:24:30 PM No.1418075
>>1418066
Objectively false. Women cannot compete at the highest levels as men. Cherry picking a bunch of tournaments doesn't prove otherwise
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:30:46 PM No.1418076
>>1418075
you can't compete with high level men in the game of mating and will die alone
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 11:58:42 PM No.1418079
>>1418066
>hey check out my 15 minute video from some shitty youtube politician
Nigga....

It's the 4th of July and I just got done shooting automatic weapons so I'm in a good mood right now and will let that slide. That being said, women have been playing chess as far back as the 16th century and I can't find a single record of women being banned from chess tournaments. Clubs? Yes. Tournaments? No. So they've had access to the competition for 500 years, they shouldn't be so under-represented if there wasn't a huge mental gap between the genders.

And I'm all for getting rid of "women only" tournaments and making it so anyone - of any background - can compete in one big tournament.
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look like a woman think like a Man
7/5/2025, 8:23:37 AM No.1418181
>>1418054
>No. The best painters and novelists are all men. You're welcome to keep proving yourself retarded
Ok, dummy, listen up. because of bias against women there was very few examples of famous women painters artist at etc . This has been rectified in the last hundred years and there are plenty of examples now but you are a plebeian and don't know anything about the finer arts(or any arts for that matter).
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Anonymous
7/5/2025, 10:53:15 AM No.1418195
>>1418079
>>1418075
Fine, if you can't even bother:
Experiment has shown that when the opponent doesn't know they are of opposite genders, the results actually tend to be even.

Source: watch the goddamn 15 video. You are wasting your time arguing on a blue imageboard, do'nt tell me you have anything better to do.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:36:17 PM No.1418444
>>1418195
So men emit an AT field that smothers women. That’s what they must be stifled so women are never aware of their presence as anything other than neutered gender neutral entities.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:37:57 PM No.1418445
>>1418181
Coincidentally just when standards went to shit and objective beauty is derided as a concept
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:39:34 PM No.1418446
>>1418005
Trained on data from which gender?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:40:34 PM No.1418447
>>1417894
I hope against hope that somewhere at least one feminist sees the irony of their own apparatus of stifling logic and objectivity is now working against them