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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/07/business/trump-debanking-executive-order.html

> Trump Orders Clampdown on ‘Debanking,’ a Personal Gripe

> Author: Rob Copeland (LMAO)

> President Trump signed an executive order Thursday aimed at stopping banks from barring customers for what he says are political or religious reasons, an attempt to appease conservatives and cryptocurrency types who have complained about their treatment by Wall Street.

> The order deals with “debanking,” a catchall term for claims of having been denied a bank account or loan for reasons unrelated to finances. It instructs various federal regulators and agencies to investigate the matter and “make reasonable efforts” to reinstate debanked customers.

> The order also raises the specter of federal prosecutions of banks, by instructing regulators to refer some previous debanking complaints to the attorney general’s office.

> Major banks largely insist they are blameless for the closed accounts, saying that regulations begun under President Obama and continuing into Mr. Trump’s first term and the Biden administration required them to take a hard line against potential customers who transact disproportionately in cash or operate gun-related businesses, among other categories.

> Mr. Trump’s executive order echoes the banks’ defenses on the issue, saying prior federal directives had forced lenders to deny banking services to certain categories of disfavored customers.

> Some of the actions laid out in the order repeat steps that federal regulators have already taken on the issue recently, such as dropping a hotly debated rule that allowed federal overseers to assess whether a bank client could harm a lender’s reputation. Many banks had cited the rule as a reason for closing customer accounts.

>>1425377 (OP)

> Once considered a fringe issue deployed by certain businesses who asserted they could not open bank accounts, the issue of debanking became more mainstream as right-leaning groups and even some liberals accused lenders of politically motivated discrimination. Republicans have kept the issue in the spotlight as Mr. Trump and even the first lady, Melania Trump, insisted they or their family members were, at one point or another, denied a bank account.

> Some high-profile examples of so-called debanking remain unproven — including, thus far, many of Mr. Trump’s claims.

> His family business sued Capital One earlier this year for closing its accounts in the wake of the Jan. 6 riot, but Capital One has denied wrongdoing and litigation is ongoing. Several banks shied away from doing business with Mr. Trump for his behavior surrounding the mob that stormed the Capitol.

> In a CNBC interview earlier this week, Mr. Trump said, without providing evidence, that JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America turned down more than $1 billion in cash deposits from the Trump Organization after his first term. He said he made unsuccessful personal appeals to the chief executives of both banks.

> Spokesmen for those banks earlier declined to comment on Mr. Trump’s allegations.

> The issue gained traction when crypto companies — a major backer of Mr. Trump’s presidential run last year — began complaining that banks would not work with them.

>>1425378

> The White House, in materials released on Thursday, didn’t specify the scope of the problem, but listed examples cited earlier by Senate Republicans that banks and payment processors investigated customers who made legal purchases at gun sellers, or who used terms including “Trump” or “MAGA” while exchanging money electronically.

> “These practices erode public trust in banking institutions and regulators, harm livelihoods, freeze payrolls and impose significant financial burdens on law-abiding Americans,” the White House said in a statement.

> Some of the actions announced Thursday did not require the impetus of an executive order, as they involve federal agencies already led by Trump appointees.

> And other regulators had already made moves, including the Federal Reserve, which earlier this year ended a directive that required banks to provide advance notification before opening accounts for crypto clients.

I don't see how anyone could be against this. Oh wait, it's the primary way Democrats attack their political opponents. They support corporations controlling us as long as they are like blacks and gays

>>1425384
>us
esl shill, how many times do i have to remind you that you're not white or american

>>1425384
You're supporting socialism.

>>1425385
You can't run the same script in every thread, Ranjeet

esl shill is projecting again

>>1425392
Its hilarious because a certain brazillian shill has shown conclusively that you can in fact use the same script in every thread, shamelessly

>>1425384
i thought people should be able to run their companies how they want, and freely pick who they want to serve as customers?

>>1425384
Of course. Reputational risk was just enforced ESG and other control measures.

We will see how the DOJ's antisemitism task force does against first amendment rights.

>>1425398
So I can open a Whites Only bar?

>>1425408
sure, but you wouldn't be allowed in

>>1425409
Goddamn that's the funniest post you've made in two years.

>>1425398
Banks are like utilities. Visa and Mastercard have a near monopoly. "Equal housing lender" means that banks cannot deny you a loan for being black.

>>1425412
lmao
you have as much of a right to banking and credit cards as you do to healthcare and housing
lmao, you fucked yourself republicunt

>>1425414
Trump disagrees with your retarded opinion and he's in charge, therefore you are wrong. Begin seething

>>1425424
>sorry, you have to accept that pedophilia will be legal in America
no, I don't think that I do

>>1425424
you disgust me, brown-nosing shill. someone should teach you what dignity is

>>1425425
>>1425426
Successfully seethed.

esl shill falsely claimed victory again

>>1425430
Another victory for trans women

>>1425432
I know you're Canadian, Ranjeet. It's time to stop self hating Americans because of your jealousy

i love a good shill crashout

>>1425438
they were already posting lower quality shillslop yesterday
I'm worried they're too sick to maintain their fent binge this weekend and they may end up in the hospital

>>1425438
>>1425440
>Daily posts about Trump being a pedo and accusing everyone else of being an ESL and non American
>No, it's the people without TDS that are the problem

>>1425442
>accusing everyone else of being an ESL and non American
lmao, you know this isn't true
its just your tranny loving ass, because you're a gay retard

we love you though, see a doctor and stop injecting lead-tainted fentanyl in your balls

>>1425377 (OP)
He really is the best President in our lifetime and so far its not particular close.
In a couple of days it will be announced that the ukrain russia war is over as well and with that the cunts will be forced literally FORCED to give trump the nobel peace price (i dont give shit about that fake award but democrats do lol) and democrats will seethe until the sun burns out.

>>1425453
Global peace prize for rewarding and legitimizing a Dictator of a Terrorist State? Actually, yeah, that checks out.

>>1425442
The president being a pedophile is a fairly big deal, anon.

>Trumps gonna stop the Ukraine war day one and get a peace prize!
>Trumps gonna stop Israel attacking Iran and get a peace prize!
>Trumps gonna stop Israel attacking Iran for reals and get a peace prize!
>Trumps gonna stop the Ukraine war in two weeks and get a peace prize!
>Trumps gonna stop the Ukraine war in two weeks for real this time and get a peace prize!
^^^^^^SHILL IS COPING HERE^^^^^^^^
>Trumps gonna stop the Ukraine war by the end of the year and get a peace prize!
>Trumps gonna beat the Epstein allegations and get a peace prize!
>Trumps gonna win his pedophile appeal and get out of prison!

>>1425412
Banks can and have denied Nick Fuentes from any form of payment processor
>>1425424
So why has the last established financial institution available to Trump, Deutsche Bank, denied Trump from getting loans: not even so much as a small one of a million dollars? I guess that's why the orange grifter is reduced to shilling crap to make money.
It's not everyone else who is seething, but laughing.

>>1425460
>Banks can and have denied Nick Fuentes
Which should be highly illegal to prevent someone from making basic purchases because they exercised their first amendment right.

>>1425460
>Banks can and have denied Nick Fuentes from any form of payment processor
And you think this is a good thing? I don't even like Fuentes, but I don't want companies having direct control over my own fucking money. /v/ is already in a fit because Visa won't let them buy coomer games. You think this bullshit stops here?

Let me try this angle: imagine if Trump, or any president in the future, uses data collected by banks to see what you've been purchasing... any donations to Hasan lately?

>>1425460
>So why has the last established financial institution available to Trump, Deutsche Bank, denied Trump from getting loans: not even so much as a small one of a million dollars? I guess that's why the orange grifter is reduced to shilling crap to make money.
Trump's not getting loans because he's an unreliable lender lol. Do you forget this guy really, REALLY doesn't like paying his debts? There's still multiple cities waiting for him to pay for hosting rallies there.

>>1425377 (OP)
The irony is he can clamp down all he likes but he's not getting a loan; Trump has multiple bankruptcies, defaults, and unpaid debts. He's been successfully sued multiple times for financial fraud even long before he started running for president, to the point he can't even run a charity because he was found to be stealing from it. No bank is going to look at his history and not recognize him as a massive risk.

A lot of the people complaining about being debanked for their politics or religion are the same. They're so liable to not be able to pay back their loans the risk is off the charts and no sane bank would even expect to be paid back from loaning to them at all.

>>1425470
This EO isn't for people like Trump, it's for people like Fuentes; kids who get debanked and barred from the financial system because they say something spicy on social media.

If you criticize Israel and suddenly lose the ability to deal with all lenders, that's not only retarded, but it feeds the rumor mill about jews controlling the banks.

>>1425488
Did Fuentes actually get debanked or did he try to apply for a loan with massive risk behind him?

>>1425490
No ones been debanked for spicy comments on social media.
They try to spin it that way, but there's always massive debt, unpaid loans, and other bullshit that mysteriously doesn't matter for easily duped MAGA retards

>>1425461
>Which should be highly illegal
>should be
If wishes were currency, you would be homeless and starving. Fortunately Fuentes is now a financial - as well as political - irrelevance. Good. And I don't need 'wishes' for anything & everything bad to happen to him & all his ilk
>>1425462
>imagine if
>headcanons destroyed by the 155mm Howitzer of reality
>headcanons
You can 'try' but it'll never happen. And I don't need to 'imagine'.
>>1425488
>it's for people like Fuentes
And when he was confronted by police, and asked if he was a white supremacist, Fuentes said he was Mexican.
>what's left - now few, with his previous right hand man Baked Alaska now considering Lil' Nickie persona non grata - of his non-white Gro(y)pers think they're the 'saviors of the white race'
>how the last credible force for the white right - Richard Spencer - went spiralling into freefall after that one punch
'White Boy Summer' was over for Fuentes & co before it started.

>>1425491
Plus criminal history. Don't forget that; banks have a much harder time collecting from jailbirds.

>>1425490
He used to be a conservative that questioned Israel's involvement in American politics.
When it became known that this kid had a podcast and was making holocaust jokes, he was deplatformed from youtube and crowdfunding platforms like gofundme. He was eventually banned from banks entirely.

Banks talk to each other and share a list of people they deem to be problematic, whether that be for political or criminal reasons. People generally assume that 'debanking' only happens to the worst people, but it's also happened to Christian orgs, political leaders (DJT), cryptocurrency moguls, environmentally 'unfriendly' groups like oil companies etc etc

>>1425494
>When it became known that this kid had a podcast and was making holocaust jokes, he was deplatformed from youtube and crowdfunding platforms like gofundme.
This is confirmed.
> He was eventually banned from banks entirely.
This is not. Getting banned from Youtube and gofundme for breaking TOS and being a shithead isn't the same as being debanked.

>>1425495
>This is not.
He said he was. He was also banned from Hatreon and other alt crowding platforms.
>being a shithead isn't the same as being debanked
The overarching problem is that these people are the victims of terrorism.
If you say something a political group dislikes, and they start ruining your ability to feed yourself, it prevents other people with similar voices from exercising their free speech. Because they will be afraid of actually saying what they want.
Cooercing people with threats of financial insecurity should be a crime.

>>1425496
I'm sure he has every reason not to lie about this anon. Absolutely no benefit in claiming something bullshit, and he definitely hasn't made a career out of it.

>>1425494
>he was deplatformed from youtube and crowdfunding platforms like gofundme. He was eventually banned from banks entirely.
Feels like you skipped a lot of relevant information in the middle that would debunk your entire argument

>>1425496
I've seen things of him being banned from patreon and gofundme (for violating TOS by being a nazi). Not him being unable to deposit money in an account or take out a loan.

>>1425499
They're trying to equate all three things in a 'woe is me' push
The banks aren't refusing to let him open an account or apply for a loan. They're refusing to process transactions against their TOS and provide loans to deadbeats

>>1425494
>People generally assume that 'debanking' only happens to the worst people
>proceeds to list the worst people

>>1425502
>you haven't broken any laws but you deserve to be excluded from society because I dislike you
Alright cool

>>1425500
>They're trying to equate all three things in a 'woe is me' push
Your argument is that it didn't happen to him, but if it did happen to him, he deserves it.
That's kinda retarded. Terrorism is never justified.

>>1425504
You said "the worst people" not "people who have broken laws." If those are the nicest people you can manage then that says a lot.

>>1425506
The morality of people who think Fuentes deserves to be excluded from digital banking and flight are also the same kinds of people who think men can become women and that enforcing border security is fascism.
Morality is largely a matter of opinion, which would be fine by itself if retards weren't actively trying to starve each other over opinions on the internet.

>>1425507
>Morality is largely a matter of opinion
dumb takes from kid fucking apologists

>>1425504
>Waaaaaah, no one wants to hear about my nazi bullshit!
You have a right to speak just as much as people have a right to the consequences of said speech. People don't wanna associate with shitheads. Simple as that.

>>1425509
>People don't wanna associate with shitheads.
Okay. We can do that. But that also means deporting everybody who protested the war in Gaza and disobeyed the current regime.
Are you fine with that? Because that's literally what's happening as I write this.

>>1425507
>Fuentes
>morality
>the thing that is >>1425507 defending Fuentes
Fuentes defends Ali Alexander: a pedophile.
It's not just the opinions but the morality of the likes of >>1425507 the defender of a pedo defender that are invalid.

>>1425519
>dems spend four years defending Biden sniffing hair
>but drumpf!
Sssshhhh

>>1425507
It's perfectly within their right as private entities to not want to do business with an individual or group that goes against their morals, or they otherwise think could ruin their reputation.

If you think Christian bakers have a right to not bake a gay wedding cake, then you should apply your same standards to a "woke" banker who doesn't want to do business with a whignat.

>>1425522
>reps spend four years complaining about Biden sniffing hair.
>Defends Ghislaine Maxwell

>>1425534
>just make your own bank!
lmao

>>1425542
Yes, or find a bank that doesn't discriminate based on political beliefs even if the beliefs in question are pretty vile.

A bank does not owe you its services, you are not entitled to their property and labor. Property rights are one of those things that need to be respected in absolute terms, or everything falls apart like a jenga tower. Once we start accepting that someone can be forced to share their services and property "for the greater good", this establishes a precedent for more insidious actors to exploit in the future.

>>1425534
>Their morals
Stop bootlicking, retard. Corporations can't have morals. Do you think a bakery owned by a husband and wife is the same thing as multi billion dollar bank that receives federal subsidies from government?

You also know the cake things was bullshit because the fag couple tried to make it as faggy as possible just to spite the bakery for being christians

>>1425545
Remember this when they make you pledge allegiance to Israel to buy a house or car or they will freeze your bank account for voting wrong

>>1425546
Corporations can and do have morals, many corporations are founded by deeply religious people for instance, who run the company based on their values.

>You also know the cake things was bullshit because the fag couple tried to make it as faggy as possible just to spite the bakery for being christians

The "offending" party's intent is irrelevant here, what is relevant is whether or not the Bakery has a right to deny service to them, and the answer is "yes".

>>1425548
Completely incorrect. Any corporation that receives bail outs or subsidies is a public utility.

>>1425547
I fail to see how Government forcing businesses to discriminate based on views of Israel refutes my point.

>>1425549
Yes and this is why we should end all corporate welfare.

>>1425551
Because you're a kike shill. Denounce the talmud if you want to continue this debate

>>1425553
>main argument against property rights is that Government consistently violates property rights to force political opinions onto businesses and customers.
>points out how this makes no sense and doesn't refute my point.
>has no good response so such screeches about Jews instead.

>>1425545
>A bank does not owe you its services, you are not entitled to their property and labor.
Retards who say this shit do so knowing that certain services have a monopoly on a wide range of shit in the western world with the help of the federal government. So this gross mockery of libertine free market trade doesn't actually apply.

>>1425557
Denounce the talmud.
>>1425558
The same people that call you a fascist are defending banks enforcing wrongthink

>>1425559
why are you pretending you're anti-israel, right wing shill? you're shilling for the most collared-by-israel president in history

>>1425559
Are the Jews in the room with us now?
Now point out on the doll where the Jews touched you personally.

>>1425547
Just go to a branch of HSBC

Why are people complaing about Jews the banks do business with literally terrorist groups and cartels when they think they can get away with it, just keep shit on the down low and don't scream about retarded shit like the rest of the criminals funnelling billions.

>>1425559
>denounce a bunch of rabbis from ~1000-3000 years ago debatelording at each other about interpretation of religious law.

buddy you may as well denounce your local high school debate club. or all lawyers regardless of what their opinions are.