https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1kzz4m3ll1o
US President Donald Trump has said homeless people must "move out" of Washington DC as he vowed to tackle crime in the city, but the mayor pushed back against the White House likening the capital to Baghdad.

"We will give you places to stay, but FAR from the Capital," he posted on Sunday. The Republican president also trailed a news conference for Monday about his plan to make the city "safer and more beautiful than it ever was before".

Mayor Muriel Bowser, a Democrat, said: "We are not experiencing a crime spike."

Trump signed an order last month making it easier to arrest homeless people, and he last week ordered federal law enforcement into the streets of Washington DC.

"The Homeless have to move out, IMMEDIATELY," Trump wrote on his social media site Truth Social on Sunday.

"We will give you places to stay, but FAR from the Capital. The Criminals, you don't have to move out. We're going to put you in jail where you belong."

Alongside photos of tents and rubbish, he added: "There will be no 'MR. NICE GUY.' We want our Capital BACK. Thank you for your attention to this matter!"

The specifics of the president's plan are not yet clear, but in a 2022 speech he proposed moving homeless people to "high quality" tents on inexpensive land outside cities, while providing access to bathrooms and medical professionals.

On Friday, Trump ordered federal agents - including from US Park Police, the Drug Enforcement Administration, the FBI and the US Marshals Service - into Washington DC to curb what he called "totally out of control" levels of crime.

A White House official told National Public Radio that up to 450 federal officers were deployed on Saturday night.

The move comes after a 19-year-old former employee of the Department of Government Efficiency (Doge) was assaulted in an alleged attempted carjacking in Washington DC.

Trump vented about that incident on social media, posting a photo of the bloodied victim.

Mayor Bowser told MSNBC on Sunday: "It is true that we had a terrible spike in crime in 2023, but this is not 2023.

"We have spent over the last two years driving down violent crime in this city, driving it down to a 30-year low."

She criticised White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller for dubbing the US capital "more violent than Baghdad".

"Any comparison to a war-torn country is hyperbolic and false," Bowser said.

Washington DC's homicide rate remains relatively high per capita compared to other US cities, with a total of 98 such killings recorded so far this year. Homicides have been trending higher in the US capital from a decade ago.

But federal data from January suggests that Washington DC last year recorded its lowest overall violent crime figures - once carjacking, assault and robberies are incorporated - in 30 years.

Trump has said there will be a news conference at the White House on Monday to outline their plans to stop violent crime in the US capital.

In another post on Sunday he said the event at 10:00 EDT (14:00 GMT) would address ending "crime, murder and death" in the city, as well as its "physical renovation".

He described Bowser as "a good person who has tried", adding that despite her efforts crime continues to get "worse" and the city becomes "dirtier and less attractive".

Community Partnership, an organisation that works to reduce homelessness in Washington DC, told Reuters news agency that the city of 700,000 residents had about 3,782 people homeless on any given night.

Most were in public housing or emergency shelters, but about 800 were considered "on the street".

As a district, rather than a state, Washington DC is overseen by the federal government, which has the power to override some local laws.

The president controls federal land and buildings in the city, although he would need Congress to assume federal control of the district.

In recent days, he has threatened to take over the Washington DC Metropolitan Police Department, which Bowser argued was not possible.

"There are very specific things in our law that would allow the president to have more control over our police department," Bowser said. "None of those conditions exist in our city right now."

>>1425703 (OP)
>the mayor pushed back against the White House likening the capital to Baghdad.
The mayor should not have let America's capitol become like Baghdad with rampant crime and homelessness
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>1425707
you've never even been to america, much less dc, shill

>>1425703 (OP)
this is gonna be the Nakbah for the American left.

>>1425707
He didn't. It's not. Crime's at a 30-year low and the homelessness rate is less than 1%.
Stop fucking lying.

>>1425703 (OP)
What a coincidence he makes this announcement a few days after defunding DC's security budget.
https://wtop.com/dc/2025/08/trump-administration-slashes-dcs-security-funding-by-44/

>>1425703 (OP)
>his plan to make the city "safer and more beautiful than it ever was before"

Dude orchestrated J6.

>>1425711
>Crime's at a 30-year low
Because Democrats and the FBI stopped reporting it

>>1425717
i hope someday we can report you and you can never post again, shill

>>1425717
>The FBI is full of democrats!!1
I'll never understand this Rudy Guiliani meme is still going.

>>1425711
>He didn't. It's not.
It is. I've been there. Even our own congressmen are getting carjacked in D.C. You must've forgot about that since it was a couple years ago.

>>1425711
(shitty 4chan website isn't working again)
>He didn't. It's not.
Guess you forgot about that congressman getting carjacked in D.C. a while ago.

>>1425722
>its happening all the time!
>don't you remember that one time it happened a few years ago?
There's easier ways to humiliate yourself

>>1425718
>>1425721
Eternally butt blasted shills. How does it feel being paid rupees to defend corrupt Democrat pedophiles that only want to destroy the world?

>>1425721
Because it's blatantly obvious. They let Hillary get away with her underling deleting subpoenaed evidence, but illegally investigated and surveilled Trump relying on the Steele Dossier. They let Antifags take over several city blocks and secede from the union at CHAZ, but drop the hammer on every single person that was, or wasn't, at Jan 6th. Anytime a right-wing group does something similar, like that Bundy group taking over a log cabin in a national park in some flyover state, the FBI goes to lengths to shoot and kill at least one of them. But Antifa executes two black teenagers in CHAZ? Meh, it's just commies being commies.

>>1425724
>our own congressmen are being robbed at gunpoint... D.C. is perfectly fine!
Cope and seethe. Trump is doing what should've been done decades ago.

>>1425727
>But Antifa executes
Antifa is a mindset, not an organization.

>>1425730
>Laughingwhores.jpg

>>1425730
>Antifa is a mindset, not an organization.
If you think antifa is good and say so on social media you're sympathetic.
If you join a protest with antifa or donate to the local antifa club you're aligned.
If you attend planning meetings or help transport people or provide supplies you're a member

>But antifa doesn't exist
Lots of organizations don't exist in the same way antifa or BLM don't exist.

Literally just dictionary definition:
"An organized body of people with a particular purpose, a structure or arrangement of related or connected items."

What is supposed purpose of antifa? To "stop fascism."
What is the purpose of antifa in practice? To go and shut down the groups and events, protest against police by rioting and to intimidate among other things and to push "left wing" social and economic policies.
Does it work toward this, yes.

I roll my eyes anytime someone says Antifa isn't an organization. It's all just typical left wing word games. Yes it's not openly and completely centralized, that is irrelevant to the fact they are an organization, an entity, they aren't aimless blobs that just accidentally trip on a banana peel at the same time and crash into another, and just so happen to decide "Hey let's set this dumpster on fire together at this particular street right now." There is degree of structure to make these things happen.

>>1425728
"it happened once, years ago" isn't a call to immediate action
Trumps little flunkie got his ass beat for mouthing off, and the lie is just being used an an excuse

>>1425734
So you endorse and support pedophilia, and your opinion can be discarded?

>>1425732
Antifa literally means anti-fascist. Who is the leader of Antifa?

>>1425734
>Lots of organizations don't exist in the same way antifa or BLM don't exist.
BLM exists and has leaders.

>>1425727
>>1425734
>thinking commies are real
>keeps posting about Antifa boogeymen
oh wow a schizoposter on /news/, you never see that

>>1425734
You're talking to the same retards who unironically agreed with "firey but mostly peaceful protests" while cars were on fire and people were being assaulted. Stop engaging them in honest conversation and just mock them.
>>1425735
>>1425736
>>1425737
These jeets are just here to shill for rupees. Just enjoy making fun of their middle school tier logic

>>1425739
lmao, even Fox News isn't buying Trumps bullshit
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-dc-crime-fact-check/

>>1425722
It's not. Stop lying. Big Balls is not a congressman.

>>1425717
No they didn't. Stop lying.

>>1425739
>Stop engaging them in honest conversation and just mock them.
I feel you Anon, but this board is 75% retarded non-arguments like "you've never even been to america, much less dc, shill", "There's easier ways to humiliate yourself", or "you endorse and support pedophilia". There's nothing else to engage with. Almost zero non-bad-faith posters that don't regurgitate the same troll posts in every thread that has fuck-all to do with any subject.

This is as good as it gets here.

>>1425739
>You're talking to the same retards who unironically agreed with "firey but mostly peaceful protests" while cars were on fire and people were being assaulted.
Every time you retards say this you just show how fucking stupid you are.
If a thousand people protest and a dozen of them start fires, then that protest is mostly peaceful. That's not my seething libtard opinion, that's objective fact, that's what those fucking words mean. How is this so hard to understand?

>>1425739
>"firey but mostly peaceful protests" while cars were on fire and people were being assaulted.

I know some people cannot into math, but it seems the protests were 99% peaceful with some bad actors at 3am. The fuckery going on by the protestors were individuals vs thousands upon thousands of people just standing or marching with signs.

I really doubt the people throwing bricks and looting and starting fires are taking that Tuesday off from their career to vote. I don't think they have any political motivation.

it's hilarious that there are literally shills here posting

>>1425751
and in their feelings

>>1425749
But muh CNN screencap

>>1425751
its worse than a shill, its a brazilian airsoft enthusiast with a tranny fetish who thinks its their mission to defend 4chans nearly dead /news/ board from socialist and liberals and all the other things they've been programmed to hate.
They mostly get farmed for lols

>>1425749
>How is this so hard to understand?
Because you're defending a terrorist organization that commits arson, you retard. You can't separate "mostly peaceful" protestors from rioters because they march under the same flag.

>>1425756
The Boogaloo Bois are a terrorist organization?

>>1425757
>both sides! both sides!
Are you a retard, anon?

>>1425739
I'm not the one who believes the Trump propaganda about Antifa, that's you.

>>1425756
They're not a terrorist organization, and that's not how protests work.

>>1425760
No, they're right, its sad
An Antifa guy told me that the sky is blue, and now I have to say the sky isn't blue or people will think I'm a filthy antifa supporter who burns cars
I think thats how things work, but I had a stroke after getting kicked in the head by 15 mules and my doctor says I'm too retarded to live. But >>1425756 this guy makes perfect sense

>>1425761
There is no Antifa guy. There is no Antifa group. That's like saying there's a nice day group because people like nice days instead of bad days. It doesn't make sense. You're using the word Antifa as a proper noun and it is incorrect.

>I'm not a member of the nazis. The nazis are an idea, not a group
>Those brownshirts? Those aren't nazis. And the protests were mostly peaceful anyways so I don't know why you care so much

>>1425762
no no no, even though I've been kicked in the head by 16 mules and my doctor says I'm too retarded to live, I know Antifa is a guy and an organization, Antifa the Antifa he called himself.
And if you support something another organization supports, its just like you're a close member of that organization.
Thats a real thing and not something a schizo thought or caused by brain damaged because I've been kicked in the head by 16 mules and my doctor says I'm too retarded to live

>>1425763
Adolf Hilter was the leader of the Nazis. It was an organized political movement that over took governments via warfare and was defeated. They had outfits and a logo, incredible organization, every box is checked declaring them an organization.

Your autism is showing.

>>1425765
>They had outfits and a logo
Yeah so does Antifa. They sell shirts.
You're a faggot retard.

>>1425766
Show me a source to an authentic Antifa shirt and not something sold on a godaddy website or etsy.

>>1425749
Does this same standard apply to Jan 6th, even though the FBI came out and said the overwhelming majority were not attempting an insurrection? (aka, 93% were peaceful)

>>1425768
over 1000 people went through the judicial process. over 100 pled guilty to physically assaulting police officers.

trump pardoned them.

>>1425769
And most didn't. So it was mostly peaceful, yes?

>>1425768
No. Storming the capital of the United States is a bigger deal than protesting in the streets. Also >>1425769

>>1425770
most didnt what? they were all convicted.

>>1425766
>>1425767

20 minutes in and no source. sad. many such cases.

>>1425711
You aren't even American

>>1425739
Good post

>>1425775
bad pasta

>>1425711
>Crime's at a 30-year low and the homelessness rate is less than 1%.
Lying faggot.
The crime rate in 2023 (the last year ojs reports) was higher than any year under trump for violent crime
https://ncvs.bjs.ojp.gov/multi-year-trends/crimeType

>>1425777
god decides to smite you

>>1425778
Take the L and move on

This thread is how /news/ is. board and/or users should be pulled.

>>1425771
>Storming the capital of the United States is a bigger deal than capturing blocks of a major city and declaring it autonomous from the United States (also known as sedition) with the support of democrat politicians who provided "aid and comfort" in for form of water, toiletries, medical supplies, etc. while running interference.
Gotcha.

>>1425782
Hey which of these tried to kill the leadership of the US for the current president of the US to remain president despite losing the election?

>>1425783
Which of these actually shot and killed two black teenagers? Hell, which of these two actually shot anyone? Afaik the only person shot at Jan 6th was an unarmed white woman by police (no protests over her of course).

>>1425784
>I'm sure those guys with zip ties would've given those senators a good talking to if they hadn't been forced to barricade themselves in the last possible room

>>1425782
someones still salty that J6ters were rightfully condemned for sedition, but the propaganda they heard about BLM never came true

>>1425785
So nobody from the Jan 6th crowd shot anyone? That's what I thought. Good boy.

>>1425782
I'm glad you understand.

>>1425787
Ashley Babbit deserved to get shot in the face.
George Floyd was unrightfully murdered by the police.
You will continue to seethe about this for eternity.

>>1425783
Which one of those groups actually killed people?

>>1425791
>You will continue to seethe about this for eternity.
Dems shot an unarmed woman and chimped out because a wifebeater died after swallowing his fentanyl stash.
You've done more to radicalize the republican party than we could've done in the same amount of time. You're a total fucking retard and I love you for it.

https://i.imgur.com/whTRBt8.png
https://i.imgur.com/yc8XxRE.png

>>1425704
>>1425707
what went wrong muttsisters?!

>>1425791
>When it happens to us it's a big deal!
>When it happens to you, you deserve it!
And then you wonder why Trump won.

>>1425795
tRump won because because he cheated and because of low information people like you aka ignoramuses

>>1425791
Babitch got shot in the tit. Fuck around and find out

>>1425718
I'd try to alleviate if not cureyour obsession with shills and/or esls, especially from Russia if I were you. Your mind is broken

>>1425795
context is important retard. One was on the ground begging to breathe. The other was jumping a barricade.

>>1425812
The "context" is that you monkeys will spontaneously combust the nearest automobile or small business over a career criminal like George Floyd, Jacob Blake, Dreasjon Reed, etc. getting what most people consider to be long-overdue karma, but when an unarmed, right-wing, white woman gets shot by police not only do not call it police brutality, you laugh about it and take the cop's side for once in your pathetic lives. This is what is known as hypocrisy. You animals will riot and send antifags to block roads and point guns at drivers trying to get to work over pieces of shit like Reed who died shooting at police with the very same gun he livestreamed himself pulling a random drive-by into a random neighborhood the night before, but with Babbitt now it's "fuck around and find out".

Again, this is why Trump won. One of many reasons. You think people don't notice your double-standards?

>>1425816
Bobbit was jumping a barricade after breaking into the capitol building and being warned repeatedly not to enter the last room where the US senate was able to hide. Floyd gave someone a counterfeit $20 bill possibly by accident. You cannot retroactively claim someone whether someone deserves death based on history. Babbitt did something in that moment that warranted her being shot in self defense. Floyd didn't. Continue to cope and seethe about this.

>>1425817
>Babbitt did something in that moment that warranted her being shot in self defense. Floyd didn't.
Because the unarmed woman was more of a threat than a giant negro high on fent that already attacked somebody? lol get fucked.

>>1425703 (OP)
Welcome to the fascist regime

>>1425703 (OP)
It's impossible to be homeless without breaking a law. There's nowhere for you to go.

>>1425711
Yeah but with all these cuts to benefits and programs homelessness is going to spike. I'm about to be homeless and I have an income.

>>1425821
>no retort
I accept your concession retard.

>>1425823
reminds me of how state government used to enslave homeless people with a similar law

>>1425824
Trump wants 'more criminals' to be sent to prison.
Reminds me of the prison song by system of dawn.

>>1425827
>Need free labor to replace all the migrants you deported
>Declare homelessness illegal
>Arrest homeless people
>Have them work the fields on loan from prisons

>>1425824
No amount of gibs and programs can fix homelessness. It's the result of mental illness. Normal people don't ever become homeless, and when it does rarely happen, it's very temporary. Every single homeless person you meet is going to have mental illness and substance abuse problems. There's a reason the government abandoned mental help in the 80s. It was a black hole. The cost for outcome doesn't make sense. California just wanted billions and didn't change the statistics at all.

>>1425825
lol whatever you have to tell yourself fag. Floyd was more of a threat to police than a tiny unarmed white woman. Keep trying to deflect away from my point all you want, the fact remains that you subhumans have rioted over FAR more justified police shootings - and the only reason why you didn't over Babbitt was because she was on the right.

If she was some purple-haired dyke at the we-don't-call-it-an-insurrection-because-the-left-did-it insurrection at the White House on May 30th 2020 and got capped trying to throw a molotov at Secret Service like everyone else, you'd be wearing "Babbit did nothing wrong" t-shirts.

>No cash bail
What the actual fuck? Only the super riches in wall street get to enjoy the privilege of bail out?

>>1425830
>Ashley Babbit deserved to get shot in the face.
>George Floyd was unrightfully murdered by the police.
>You will continue to seethe about this for eternity.
still 100% true
keep coping

>>1425832
>shit he's right but I can't admit that... I know! I'll tell him he's seething.
It's okay. I accept your concession.

>>1425834
You are seething about this and you will continue to for years to come.

>>1425834
widdle baby is gonna keep pretending a retard repeatedly refusing orders to back down shouldn't have been shot in the face.

>>1425835
lol yeah I definitely don't have fun pointing out all the times lefties rioted over obvious criminals like Reed.

>>1425836
>We were just having a "fiery but peaceful protest" minding our own business when this nazi 17 year old started shooting 60 rounds into a crowd of black people with a machine gun he crossed state lines with!!!

>>1425837
And now you're deflecting because you know full well that Floyd's death was unjustified and Babbit's was.

>>1425837
Yep, still raging and coping over Ashley Babbit getting rightfully shot in the head.
Take the whole day on it

>>1425839
>>1425838
Enjoy Trump, it's going to be a long few years for you
:-)

>>1425840
You were wrong about everything else you said, so probably nothing to worry about.

>>1425841
I suggest you google what happened in germany during late 1930s and realize the similarities

>>1425840
Honestly the rate he's going I give it 2 years before Dems take back house and senate and he's removed for being a pedophile. Bro has been doing shockingly bad even by his previous admins standards.

>>1425842
I suggest you google what happened at the BLM protests and realize all the lies you keep spreading.
You can do that while coping that Ashley Babbit deserved to get shot in the face.
and George Floyd was unrightfully murdered by the police.
You will continue to seethe about this for eternity.

>>1425845
>running around at night
>wearing masks
>burning stores
>assaulting people
>shooting people
>killing people
>wuh-What do you mean? There's no similarities to the Kristallnacht and what we're doing!

>>1425850
>Guys there was a riot
>This is just like Kristallnacht
The irony is one of the defining parts of Kristallnacht was it being backed by the state and the BLM riots happened under... Donald Trump's first term.

>>1425850
So if you pretend all that stuff happened, you can delude yourself into pretending you're right?
No one really thinks any of thats real except for programed MAGA retards

>>1425852
>The irony is one of the defining parts of Kristallnacht was it being backed by the state and the BLM riots happened under... Donald Trump's first term.
Yes because the democrats totally weren't fucking supporting the riots LMAO?!? Remind me again who provided water, toiletries and medical supplies to CHAZ while keeping police out and threatening Trump with legal action if he used federal police to stop it?

>>1425858
Anon if you wanted to compare it to Kristallnacht it'd be the police doing all those things you just described. Like come on man, at least put some effort into your comparisons.

>>1425861
>well yeah politicians were supporting it... but the police weren't so it doesn't count!!!

>>1425858
>CHAZ
lmao, still rent free, still seething eternally

>>1425703 (OP)
Trump literally pardoned the people who committed the biggest violent act in DC in the last few years.

>>1425867
The shill wants us to believe that the peaceful George Floyd protests were worse than the Jan 6th riot, and keeps failing.
We have multiple videos of Jan 6thers literally shouting that cops need to be murdered
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/video-shows-doj-adviser-telling-220245062.html
They don't have that for any of the George Floyd protests

>>1425868
>peaceful
How many people died? How many billions in damages?
Most sources state about 20 and 1-2 billion

>>1425832
>attacking politicians bad
>killing civilians good
Democrats are the biggest cucks in the universe.

>>1425879
>Most sources state about 20 and 1-2 billion
So you're looking at the wrong sources that incorrectly inflate figures by including unrelated crimes that happened adjacent to the protests.
Typical coping mechanism, but its alright. Just about everyone understands the truth.

>>1425907
Proof that the experts are wrong?

>>1425938
isn't it sad that a bot could do your job better

>>1425938
>experts
What experts? You're making up experts

>>1425940
>>1425939
So you made it up then

>>1425950
no, you're a dumb faggot. that's an objective fact

>>1425951
No, they're just a Brazilian shill who desperately wants to be the shittiest American they possibly can

>>1425951
Why do you get mad after you get btfo by facts? Does it embarrass you?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled
>At least 11 Americans have been killed while participating in political demonstrations this year and another 14 have died in other incidents linked to the political unrest
25 deaths due to BLM riots
https://archive.is/CIT4I
>Exclusive: $1 billion-plus riot damage is most expensive in insurance history
God damn. BLM set a record for damages.

If you have proof the experts are wrong you are free to share it instead of angry name calling

esl shill is melting down again, just because of a few mean words

>25 deaths due to BLM riots
Or is it 19?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/06/08/14-days-of-protests-19-dead/
The world will never know due to leftist rewriting of history

>>1425955
cool story bro, where are the epstein files

>>1425956
Lmao you got any whiplash after that pivot?

>>1425957
so no answer

Wow, no one could have expected the shill to only use old, debunked reports to claim there were 19 murders around the BLM protests even thought its been repeatedly pointed out every time they do this that they were all unrelated incidents in separate locations.

Getting BTFO, crying about it, only to make a new thread the next day and make the same debunked claims again is a bizarre humiliation ritual, but there's not much to do in Brazil.

>>1425962
You yelling at the sky and calling people names because you don't like the facts isn't debunking anything though, it's just a temper tantrum.

What is reported is 19-25 deaths and over a billion in damages, the costliest riots ever in history.

You can't change history, anon.

>>1425962
what else can you expect from an attention seeking faggot who loves being made fun of every single day

>>1425965
>You can't change history, anon.
But you keep trying
Ashley Babbit deserved to get shot in the face.
George Floyd was unrightfully murdered by the police.
You will continue to seethe about this for eternity.

>>1425968
I can't wait until the supreme courts overturns gay marriage and the republicans win more seats next year. Your third world seething is going to like the fountain of youth for everyone here

>>1425970
esl shill, why do you project so much

>>1425970
>seething this hard
lmao

>>1425970
Are you going to finally kill yourself when none of that happens?

>>1425968
>Ashley Babbit
Another explosive, whiplash-inducing pivot anon!
Truly an epic melty!

>>1425978
your talking points don't matter, shill. we enjoy fucking with you

Man. The leftfags really got btfo in this thread. They really can't handle facts and reality.

esl shill can't get enough of being called a faggot

>>1425979
>we
Don't worry anon, once trump Makes Asylums Great Again, you are going to be able to get all the help you need, whether you want it or not

>>1425830
Every traitorous Trumper deserves to die screaming for their daddy.

>>1425984
Man, you really need some help anon

>>1425985
Man, you really need a bullet in the brain, like every traitor.

>>1425984
it's not treason if you're a paid shill from an entirely different country. it is a pretty humiliating job though, i can only imagine

>>1425986
>>1425987
Please seek help. You get more unhinged with every day and it's obvious to anyone who posts here.
You are becoming a danger to yourself and others.

>>1425989
i'm sorry your shattered ego makes you feel that way, faggot shill. please continue being yourself so we can glean entertainment from your miserable life and poor choices

>>1425990
Please seek medical attention. Threatening to murder people online is not just unreasonable but illegal

>>1425991
is it murder when i call you a faggot, faggot?

>>1425992
What causes you to be like this? Are you that unhappy with your life? You throw these tantrums so frequently

>>1425993
me calling you a faggot isn't a tantrum, it's an observation. what causes you to be a shill and a faggot, though? that's a more pertinent question, one i'm sure you'll evade

>>1425984
Don't make me call Rittenhouse!

Huge lefty melty in this thread. It's pretty cringey too.