Considering one of these two.

.

I would've said the Tacoma, but the new messican ones I've seen already have their interior falling apart. No clue on the Frontiers, but I'd just say look for an older well maintained Tacoma.

>>28431499 (OP)
Why would you get either one over a half ton? Who cares if you don't "need one" Why pay the same amount of money for a lot less truck?

>>28431515
>same amount of money
A Tundra is 10k more than a Tacoma. It's worse if you want any offroad equipment. A TRD Tacoma is is 42k but the cheapest TRD Tundra is 72k and is a hybrid standard.

I'm looking to get a lwb frontier in the next month or so, so you should get a tacoma in case we live near each other.

>>28431499 (OP)
>Considering one of these two
Both are good. I went with the previous generation Frontier myself. No regrets. Both are surprisingly capable on poorly made trails. When I chose the Frontier, it was cheaper and seemed simpler. Titan swapping was also a consideration with the suspension, but the Frontier seems to have strong enough parts without swapping. Titan has a longer, wider wheelbase and is a few inches too long for the garage, otherwise I would have been looking at those too.
My Frontier isn't fuel efficient nor does it have a tight turning radius. These are things to consider if you're expecting lots of freeway miles or frequent parallel parking. Not sure if the newer generation has these same attributes or if they are even worth thinking about. I didn't get a truck for city driving.
In all honesty, test drive both for ride comfort. If the seats are equally comfortable to you, go for the one closer to your house. Neither truck seems terribly disappointing.

>>28431499 (OP)
I prefer them in following order:
>ritual self immolation
>frontier
>tacoma

>>28431499 (OP)
Just test drive both. The steering and ride comfort in the taco is more feminized if you're into that.

>mid size

Frontier
>N/A V6, the last of its kind in midsizes
>I forget if the automatic is 6-speed instead of a 10-speed that skips all gears.

Tacoma
>TT4 gasser, which should've been diesel because how pigfat it became
>Toyota pretends to offer a manual still but it's limited to one config and bed size.
>Hybrid is implemented as a torque adder, not exactly for improving mpg even if it was done to fool EPA numbers.

So you have a compromise engine vs a compliance engine, and practically no other differentiating features aside from whether or not you like how it looks.

>>28432406
These trucks at stock ride height sit noticeably lower than some crossovers and SUVs out now. So i'd say that "midsize" is not that inaccurate. You notice it a lot more in person than looking at photos.

>>28431499 (OP)
Neither. Ford Ranger is probably the best midsize option.

>>28432015
If a Tundra is $72k (which it isn't) there's no fucking way in hell you're getting a TRD Taco without a fucking ridiculous dealer markup. You could also just not get a Tundra because it's not like they have reliability going for them anymore.

Frontier.
>>28432457
9 speed.

>>28432572
>don't get a midsize truck they cost as much as a half ton
>but also don't get a half ton either
brilliant

>>28432596
You know the Tundra isn't the only half ton on the market, right?

>>28432598
it's the only half ton made by the two brands op is crosshopping

>>28432606
Maybe he should Take Toyotas cock out of his mouth/ass and look at the other options???

>crew cab

>>28432107
The previous frontier generation is butt ugly.

>>28432565
> I4 garbage
No thanks.

>>28432630
It's not really a "crewcab". A midsize crewcab backseat is only as big as a half ton extended cab. An midsize extended cab backseat is useless. And on most Tacomas you can get the double cab with the full 6' bed.

>>28432646
NTA but the ranger now also has an NA v6 engine option now pretty sure

They don't compare. Toyota is better in every way and the Frontier isn't that much cheaper.

>>28431515
Because if you're comparing a new mid size to a new full size they aren't the same amount of money you fucking retard.
>>28431499 (OP)
Get the frontier. They're better built and you can get a really good deal on them right now.

>>28432457
Frontier has a 9-speed

>>28432851
>Because if you're comparing a new mid size to a new full size they aren't the same amount of money you fucking retard.
Except they are. When you sell 100x more for a product you can sell it for a lot cheaper. You can get a nice 4x4 crew cab half ton for under $50k. Any off road trim small truck is going to be $45k+ once the dealers done with you.

>>28432884
>muh hecking dealershiperino markyuppies!
shut the fuck up jesus christ
>bbbut there's other trucks than just toyotas
no one cares. op is a faggot who wants ugly shitty goyotas so stay on fucking point

>>28431499 (OP)
Toyota has gone to the shitter and become overpriced weak plastic planned obselecense garbage

>>28431504
Based 1980 comfy

>>28431499 (OP)
Does Dodge still make the Dakota?

>>28431499 (OP)
Ridgeline beats them but only if your testosterone isn't low.

>>28432935
Dodge makes garbage that breaks in less than 40k miles now.

>>28432733

Twin turbo V6 on the raptor trim - $60k plus tip

>>28432884
Base 4x4 half ton vs high end trim midsized. Brilliant comparison.

>>28431499 (OP)
Old taco>old frontier>new frontier>new taco

>>28433020
You are right, my bad. Thought the 2.7 was NA.

>>28431515
>why do you want a crossover
>just get an SUV

>>28433020
>v6
I hate how they keep putting these undersized underpowered pipsqueek engines in trucks then turbofucking them

Just put a full size full powered V8 in there and be done with it.

>>28433036
this. the nutacoma is literal AIDS. you're even better off with a colorado or canyon.

>>28433084
Meanwhile Honda sticks to their V6 for as long as they can, even the new V6 which has DOHC is just like the old one.

>>28432884
You can get a brand new frontier pro 4x for well under 40k. You'll be lucky to buy a new full size 4x4 anything for 40k. If you do it will be a base model work truck, compared tp a loaded mid size. The mid size truck is more practical anyways, considering 90% of the people that buy trucks don't even need them.

Mide size trucks are lifestyle trucks made for outdoorsy people who want to haul dirtbikes, kayaks, mountain bikes with the occasional trailer for Uhaul or jetskiis. Fullsize nigger need to fuck off I dont need to pull 14k pounds and no its not the same price or size.

>>28433060
Nothing wrong with a v6

>cuck size

>>28433277
>haul dirtbikes, kayaks, mountain bikes with the occasional trailer for Uhaul or jetskiis
any full size unibody suv can do this kek
hell my mom's outback can do this

>>28434209
>my mom's outback
Do you even own a car?

>>28434199
>Nothing wrong with a v6
Underpowered and fuel economy no better than a V8.
V5 might be ok in jeep or something smol.
Anything else needs a V8, the way God intended.

>>28434423
>V5
anon...

>>28432497
The new Tacoma is as big as previous gen half-tons. They gave in to fat-ass reviewers that are used to half-tons and bitched nonstop about the tacoma being cramped. The Frontier should be 'smaller' but they're definitely bigger than nearly all crossovers. The original midsizes from two decades ago ride at the same height as modern crossovers.

>>28432647
Dealers always get the 5' beds despite the option.

>>28432935
No, and the fuckers keep "talking" about releasing a new one and then release another overpriced crew cab trim for their half-ton.
They probably don't want to butt into Gladiator sales without just making a lame unibody Maverick competitor.

>>28433060
RAM was the last one to put a V8 in a midsize.
High powered engines in small vehicles is fun as hell, but between the regulators and the bean counters and the 'value' engineering, they just don't fucking do it anymore.

That said, I kinda want a V8 single cab 6' bed F150 XL but automatics put me to sleep and it's still much bigger than I want.

>>28431499 (OP)
Planning on grabbing a frontier myself soon. Ive seen 4-5k off MSRP around me, I am totally okay with paying 45k for a new truck but not 60k for one like the tacoma

>>28432565
The ford ranger sucks, the windows are too high to rest your arm on, the radio dial isn't sensitive enough, the interior feels cheap, the seats are like feel like buckets, and they're ugly. Until recently they looked like 10th gen f150s

>>28431499 (OP)
I drive my 5th gen taco ~6k miles per year. How many years do ya think it will last if properly maintained?

>>28431499 (OP)
The frontier is mid, and the clown nose front is a bit off putting. However, I’ve had one for 2 years and it’s alright to drive for the price. Cruise control has the transmission hunting for gears occasionally , which is obnoxious, but turning on tow mode fixes it.

At this point you've already take the fuck truck pill; Honda Ridgeline

Get the frontier.

You probably understand this, but just for any dumb bitches in this thread, the hassles of a full size compared to a midsize truck are not worth it if you're just looking at a half ton. Unless you're 300 lbs, you should always get the midsize unless you need a 3/4 or 1 ton.

>>28434209
How is throwing things in the bed the same using roof racks? How would it carry a dirtbike or quad?

>>28435210
What are you supposed to fit in a 4' bed? If you have half the fucking DB or Queer Wheeler hanging over the tailgate you might as well use any other vehicle and a trailer.

>>28435211
You've never owned a truck in your life. Why argue if you don't even know how they are used?

>>28435217
I own a 3/4 ton truck... I hope you gave your buddy a good reach around for letting you use his ramps.

>>28435223
You own a truck and haven't moved large shit with your tailgate down? You're not gonna hurt it bby boy. Not that you use your bed for anything besides hauling your fat ass cousin/wife to Walmart anyways, Cletus.

>>28435238
>You own a truck and haven't moved large shit with your tailgate down?
No? Because I picked a truck with an appropriate sized bed... I also don't do engine rebuilds with vice grips. Gotta love how that GMT400 in the background can do more than the Cuckline at 1/50th the cost lol.

>>28435244
>Because I picked a truck with an appropriate sized bed... I also don't do engine rebuilds with vice grips.
What blue collared man talks like this?
>I also don't do engine rebuilds with vice grips
You never replaced windshield wipers lmao

>>28435250
You seem to be projecting a lot. Ironic when you probably own Ryobi tools.

>>28435253
Sorry your bus was late and your bf has been rough on you recently. Get a real job and you too could own some nice things irl someday.

>>28431499 (OP)
Get the Cybertruck, you fucking pussy.

toyota, why would you buy a renault

>>28431499 (OP)
>quadcab short box larp midsizes getting v8 halfton mpg
>which is better
They're both fucking garbage but if pressed I'd say the nigsan is less up its own ass high on its own farts about it.

>>28432906
>those prices
The absolute state of jewish delusions. Amazing.

>>28435250
One with a trailer...

>taco
>$70k midsize truck
>full size mpg
>less cabin room than a civic
>it LE LASTS FOREVERZ
>swaps it out on lease q 3 years
>le legend

>>28431499 (OP)
I got one in that baja brown color but i'm wishing that I got one in green

Pathfinder is a better choice.
>same drivetrain as the Frontier
>much more comfortable
>tons of covered, secure cargo volume
>a bit shorter, easier to park

>>28437683
retard

i like my taco. cabin is small for sure

>>28437704
>implying you aren't just a hillbilly retard who wants a trug to larp as a tough guy who never puts anything in the bed.

>>28431499 (OP)
Colorado

>>28435267
>sig light
>horosun optic
>turkshit clone
>nice things
Lol. Lmao.

>>28431499 (OP)
Mid. American truggs > every other nationality.

>>28437865
>American
>nationality
anon I...

>>28437865
All frontiers are made in the US.. does that not qualify them as American just because it has a Japanese badge?

>>28437882
Does she have a fucking banana stuffed in her top?

>>28431499 (OP)
I've been saying it for a while now: If we're going to do this dumb shit where we raise the hood way above the beltline for no good reason, we should at least take it to its logical conclusion. We have cameras, it's entirely doable.

>>28438381
Mid design built with American quality, to its credit.

>>28431499 (OP)
Go test drive a regular cab F150 4x4 V8 before you decide on a Toyota or Nissan

I need to replace my late 90s jeep, I am mechanically retarded and need something newer. I can get a 2025 PRO4X for 45k, have 20k I can put down and make 110k a year. Is this a financially retarded move? Also, should I wait for the 2026? I love the frontier but that orange in the interior pisses me off, same with the low quality background camera. Think that will change at all for next years model?

>>28442885
Why not get something with that $20K?

Small dick pride

>>28444273
Feel free to shoot me some recommedations

>>28444273
What 4X4's are there for $20K that aren't NPA

>>28431499 (OP)
>emission compliant cuck-truck
>or a real truck
hmmmm, truly a question for the ages

>>28440104
unironically the correct answer, but do dealerships actually carry these? I thought you had to special order them

>>28446820
Nu-coma is a real truck?

>>28432572
>dealer markup
>Toyota
lmao

>>28446999
The dealers order them, Typically there are 5 to 10 in each major city at a dealer that deals with business or city contacts. ordering is also an option.

>>28446999
I had an order in for a 2025 trd off road manual without a sunroof, after 5 1/2 months of no trucks being available on the U.S. west coast rejon toyota gave me my money back and I bought an F150. I like it enough that i'm going to get a lowered 2wd rcsb for my daily driver next year.

>>28431499 (OP)
Tacoma

Frontier

redpill me on the Pathfinder

what I want is a offroad capable SUV with Japanese reliability that isn't a turbo 4 and cost $70k CAD

>>28435238
Fuck that looks so sketchy lol

>>28437882
>doesn't know the difference between nationality and ethnicity

>>28432622
>10 speeds that shit the bed
>5.3/6.2 that shit the bed
>5.7 that shit the bed
>tundra engines shit the bed
There are no good 1/2 tons on the market rn retard.

The only trucks worth buying are midsized trucks or heavy duty diesels.

>>28431499 (OP)
Jesus fucking Christ they are so ugly

>>28447521
>what I want is a offroad capable SUV with Japanese reliability that isn't a turbo 4 and cost $70k CAD
5th gen 4runner
4th gen passport

>>28447521
>redpill me on the Pathfinder
>what I want is a offroad capable
Depends on what you mean by "offroad capable".
Unibody with no low gearing has limitations. Simulated limited slip differential (using brakes) isn't as capable as a locking differential.
It'll handle dirt roads without issue. Even if the road has a deep rut somewhere. If a road goes through a creekbed, you should be able to go through that part of the creek. If you veer off the established road to explore the creek, you might have a bad day. You are more likely going to need momentum on steep inclines. On uneven surfaces, you are more likely going to be on three wheels waiting for the simulated LSD to kick in and stop the airborne wheel from spinning.

You'll be able to go places a lowered sports car cannot. A frontier will be able to go places you cannot. A lifted jeep with front and rear locking differential and electronic detaching anti sway bar will be able to do circles around a stuck frontier. While even a prius can technically be steered off the road and continue to travel while off the road, you might have more in mind when you think "offroad capable". But I'm not psychic so your idea of what you want is a mystery to me.

>>28442885
>>28442885
>>28442885
Bump. Or do I look for a used 3rd gen tacoma? The big thing I hate about the frontier is that awful orange accenting in the interior

>>28442885
>>28447830
Weirdly specific thing to gripe about but if the interior color bothers you that much then the SL trim has almost all of the same options as a pro4x but without the bright stitching. The only shit the pro4x trucks would have that the SLs don’t is probably the tow hooks, skid plates, good shocks etc. Just a thought. But a 3rd gen taco would be just as good of a choice if not better.