Is it unrealistic, or even delusional for a 29 year old who knows nothing about cars, to become a professional car salesman?

I hear it's good money, and I'm willing to do the reading it would take to learn, if this isn't a delusional pipe dream.

Would I need some special certification or college degree to sell cars? Does it matter if I sell used or at a dealership.

What sorts of things should I be considering?

>>28445058 (OP)
>who knows nothing about cars, to become a professional car salesman?
That's most salesmen, just spout lines from the brochure.

>>28445058 (OP)
The less you know about cars is likely the better, your average NPC that doesn't even know the amount of cylinders in their car isn't interested in some autist spouting 0-60 times, talking about double wishbone vs. macpherson suspension or any of that bullshit.
The size of the infotainment screen, amount of "initial quality" JD Power awards, the amount of cupholders and "best in class residual value" are more important to your average dealership car buyer than anything like horsepower or what wheels are being driven.
Your average enthusiast, if they even go to a dealer at all, is usually there to look at a car they already saw online, and chances are they already know more about it than the seller does so the salesmen doesn't need to do a thing.

>>28445069
This. It requires social skills and manipulation in stead of knowing anything about cars.

>>28445058 (OP)
It’s all pop psychology cheap two bit mind games. They don’t care if you even have a drivers license, if you can deliver the lines and close the deals you can do quite well for yourself. I knew a guy who put three kids through college selling used cars and he couldn’t give a fuck about any of them.

>>28445075
I have bad social skills, and I generally hate people.

>>28445058 (OP)
attaching your name to a product that you had no hand in creating isn't dignified work.
anyone can do this entry level job

>>28445081
>I hate people.
I don't think car sales is the job for you. People in that industry value honesty and integrity and sociability.

>>28445241
>Salesmen
>Integrity
Kek. Only scoundrels and swindlers last for more than a few years.

>>28445256
It's safe to assume he (x241) was being sarcastic.

>>28445074
>>28445074
>>28445074
>>28445074
>>28445074
I cannot second this guy's reply enough. You are not selling to car people, you are selling to laymen/laywoman. Having good relationships with whoever does your financing and charisma is vastly more important than any technical knowledge.

>>28445260
It's confusing because he lists 2 traits a salesman wouldn't value but then 1 trait that actually would be valued.
t autist

>>28445069
This, as a service tech. I get so many cars that co.e in because the sales men didn't explain the features of the car so they think the auto braking is a problem with the car instead of just being a setting the customer can adjust

>>28445241
It's a shitpost, but there is some truth here:
>Honesty
The stealership meme is popular for a reason, but if you're working for anything more than a two-bit salvage car flipper then you really do need to be reasonably honest with any non-retards
>Integrity
This is actually important, selling someone a car that doesn't work without at least telling them reflects extremely poorly on the dealership. It's more the mechanics' fault than anything but the salesman will almost always get called out as well on the PR side
>Sociability
No shit
>>28445322
Any car with auto braking should never have been sold in the first place

>9to5 in 2025
??? nigger what are you doing. make use of the internet and AI

>>28445075
Trip back on, m'Alabamafriend

>>28445478
How the hell did you discern that that plain jane post was mine? I don't see any tells. Good job I guess.

>>28445473
>??? nigger what are you doing. make use of the internet and AI
What sort of money making venture would you recommend?

>>28445528
nta, but Perhaps the tell was "in stead"

t. newfag who doesn't normally browse here.

>>28445058 (OP)
you need charisma and presence
from the lowest used car lot, to the highest-end supercar dealers, all salesmen just rattle off bullshit stats and smile

Also, the pay is shit, its only good if youre on a good rate for commission, and youre able to shift lots of cars per week/month, which isnt very likely if youre not very charismatic etc.

>>28445473
t. jobless nigger on welfare

>>28445905
>Also, the pay is shit
How does it compare if I'm currently making 12/hr?

>>28445921
thats something you gotta figure out brotha
it depends entirely on the hours your working, and the amount of commission you can actually get

>>28445074
Yeah being a car salesmen is being a conman. The less you know the better. Most times the salesman has no clue about the car I’m looking at.

>>28445928
What's a reasonable guess?

>>28445987
Like I said, its something you gotta work out
It'll be different based on where you work, how many hours, whats the minimum, whats the average, what kind of dealership youre looking at working for, what their commission scheme is

an independent family-run second hand dealer will probably have slightly lower wages, but massive turnover of cars (with families buying 2nd cars, or parents buying their kids first beater etc) and commission will be relatively low, but the quantity of units shifted will balanced it out

on the other hand, working at a top end dealership like Porsche or even Mercedes, you may very well be on the same hourly rate, possibly slightly higher, but only sell 1 car every 3 weeks, and then get a higher commission, and return for upselling features to the customer, i.e. sports trim, different seats, coloured alloys, etc.

I've heard of guys doubling their salary via commission in both types

>>28445058 (OP)
Your work has to be your passion. If you didn't grow up with football, why would you start watching football in your thirties. It just doesn't make sense.

Go flip burgers, OP.

>>28445058 (OP)
They will train you and if you gain an interest research on your own you'll be far ahead of the shoe-in losers who work there. It's more sales tactics than knowing about cars, but if you actually know cars you can flatter whatever car you're selling by stating all the good features about it and bad features about competitors.

Ive never seen a car salesman who does very well for himself. You'd have to get into selling used cars yourself and even then you have to hunt for good deals and flip fucked up cars then deal with any warranty issues and lemons.

>>28445058 (OP)
My obese retarded (but nice gentle giant) cousin got a sales job at Tesla with 0 experience. Worked there for years but they just recently layed him off

>>28446163
>My obese retarded (but nice gentle giant) cousin got a sales job at Tesla with 0 experience. Worked there for years but they just recently layed him off
Do they have good severance?

>>28446167
an american company?
good severance?

LOL

>>28446188
Are American companies known for particularly bad severance?

What countries have companies that offer good or even okay severance?

>>28445902
So most people use "instead" in stead of "in stead?" For some reason I thought it was a 50/50 personal thing but I suppose everyone else picks the shorthand. Fuckin' A.

>>28446243
Are you British?

Decades ago, I vaguely remember reading older British poems use terms like "for ever" rather than "forever", and I feel like I may have seen "of course" instead of "ofcourse" a few times.

And, of course, the use of single-quotes over double-quotes seemed common in those poetry books.

>Fuckin' A
seems like something Zaphod Beeblebrox or Ford Prefect would say.

>>28445058 (OP)
when I was buying a shitbox corolla, the salesman called the engine a "V4". you'll be fine.

>>28446247
Please tell me how stupid that is, so I can laugh at him with you.

>>28446246
No, 'murrican, country Alabamian even. I did go to private school in plaid knickerbockers and got 36/36 in both English and reading on the act and am pretty good with poetry and meter.
Of course, in the name of chasing money I went into science and engineering in writing's stead. :P

>>28446238
depends on the country's legislature on it

Piggybacking off your thread OP

I got hired as a salesman at a Stellantis dealership. 40k base, 8 cars a month quota. Giving me about a month of training. These guys good to work for or am I about to be used and abused? I have 10+ years of tech sales but little automotive knowledge. They said most of them didn't when they began either. Dealership employs about 40 people from sales/office/maint

>>28446632
lie through your teeth and just show people the tech, and tell them to bring their friends down

>>28445058 (OP)
I recently test drove a car at a dealership and the guy told me "you'll look really cool driving this off the lot because it's red." That was his whole pitch. That should pretty much tell you all you need to know about whether it requires car expertise to become a car salesman.

youre in luck, most car salesmen dont know about cars either.

>28445069
>>28445074
>28445075
>>28445959
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>>28446782
OP, listen to me. All these people are bitter incels who think other people got their success through bullshit rather than hardwork.

You can't bullshit your way into a better life. There's no magic shortcut. Selling cars is a profession, and it is done by professionals. You would be extremely arrogant to think you could skim the brochure, and walk in with the same level of expertise as people who have been in the business for 30 years.

If cars were your passion, I'd say give it a shot, but if you're just gonna fuck around wasting everyone's time, I'd say you're better off washing the cars, than selling them.

>>28445058 (OP)
>Does it matter if I sell used or at a dealership.
yes
as a dealership car salesman you only need to know like 3 models your brand is trying to push
any by "knowing" I mean "remember the model name"

used car sales man needs to be a lot more savvy about model years, engine specs,flaws and teething issues that show up often, figuring out what's broken/worn out and how to hide all of these things, dress it up pretty so that you can actually sell shitbox for higher price than what you bought it for

>>28445058 (OP)
Realtors usually don't know shit houses and they're selling the biggest purchase of most peoples lives.

why hasn’t anybody posted the tales from the dealership? Google it

>>28447454
>why hasn’t anybody posted the tales from the dealership? Google it
Because it's mostly bullshit, newfag.

>>28445081
>bad social skills
I don't think you'll like working in any sales position then, to be honest.

>>28445058 (OP)
the most successful car salesmen know very little about cars, in fact being a car guy is a hindrance. also it's a really really shitty job where everyone is constantly trying to fuck over everyone else. customers fuck over the salesmen, salesmen fuck over management, management fucks over salesmen, owners fuck over management, manufacturer fucks over owners, service fucks over sales, etc etc.
really miserable, lots of drug abuse and alcohol, divorces. would not recommend.
t. was a car salesman years ago

>>28448308
Sounds kind of like my current job.

Any pointers to succeed and push through the bullshit?

>>28446955
>All these people are bitter incels who think other people got their success through bullshit rather than hardwork.
99% of people I've met who worked hard are making less today after inflation than they were 20 years ago. Usually hard workers are kept in place until they're at death's door. It's being chummy with someone above you, showing leadership, or having skills with planning, math, or computers that gets you ahead almost all of the time.

>>28445058 (OP)
car salesmen dont know anything about cars, they know everything about sales, seeing how you dont know this, you'll fail anyways

>>28448796
crabs in a bucket

Try it OP, although if you're not an extrovert and at least a little manipulative you won't get far.

>>28450790
Any good manipulation strats?

>>28445256
That's not how car sales has worked since the 1980s, anon. It's heavily regulated and car manufacturers don't want you fucking up their image. Maybe if you work for totally independent used car dealership.

>>28445058 (OP)
easily, i have a friend who got into it at 23. it takes basically no experience to get started. they'll probably start you at the front desk doing cold calls or setting up test drives before they let you on the sales floor. most car salesmen do not have a degree, it is a low IQ job, the customer usually already wants to buy a specific car and you are just setting up the sale lol.

>>28451662
You dont need IQ but you need EQ, which the average 4chin autist is deficient in.

>>28450772
fishermen pushing the crab back into the bucket*

>>28445058 (OP)
You make tons of money selling expensive ones like Mercs and BMWs.Those are coveted positions that don't go to junior sales people. So if you want a career you have to start in a lesser dealer like Honda or GM and put in years to get experience.
Selling expensive cars isn't the hard part - the people walking in there already know what they want and you just need to haggle on price a bit. It's dumb normies who buy Subarus that don't know what they're doing and you can sell them different models.

Merc and BMW buyers just want the badge, it's your job to sell it to them for as much as possible.

>>28445058 (OP)
what internet father figures do to a guy

>>28445058 (OP)
I'm a mechanic at a dealership. I can promise you 90% of salesmen know nothing about cars. Most of them are absolutely retarded desu

>>28445921
>making $12/h
>in the year of our lord 2025
Nigga what are you doing? You'd make more being a wageslave at McDonald's Holy shit lmao

>>28452263
As a future sleezeball salesmen. What can I proactively do to make the back end mechanics not fucking hate my guts? Also any tips you would give? I know very little about cars.

>>28445058 (OP)
Have you ever met a professional car salesman?
Most of them couldn't tell you how many wheels a car has, or count past five without both hands.

>>28446155
I started watching football in my thirties

>>28453415
Why? What do you get out of it?
How long have you been watching football now?

>>28453473
8 years
its fun and it gives me a shared experience with the normies I have to deal with

>>28453990
How do you get into football at that age? The commercials are so bad, and if you try to pre-record and fast forward, there's too many fakeouts, where the commercial break seems to end and you see the camera pointed at the football stands, and it says "The NFL is brought to you with limited commercial interruption by ...." and then it goes back to commercial. Last time I tried to watch a football game, I gave it 3 hours of my time, and realized I'm no where near finished with it, and gave up. That might have been 15 years ago.

>>28454010
Also, football itself is boring as shit

>>28454014
>Also, football itself is boring as shit
Sure, but if I had 7 hours of uninterrupted footage of paint drying, I could put that in the background, while I do other things.

I'm not a big MMA guy, but I can watch Belator playlists for a few hours at a time.

But imagine if you went out for an 18 hour hiking trip and every 12 minutes, the forest disappeared, and you had Mr Beast burping in your face, telling you how to save 20% off your next order at McDonalds.

I'd probably kill myself before leaving my room.

>>28454018
I'd just put on some old Pot Cast or Curb or the Big Lebowski for some background noise. Or some music maybe
What the FUCK is a bee-later?
I don't even look at my phone when i go camping and that's the only time i go hiking

>>28454029
>What the FUCK is a bee-later?
It's mixed martial arts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyeAmLXMqkM&list=PLfbnS7oKXqsF-vU3FO7gnmifTtK5vmobT

>>28454039
>mixed martial arts
I'm not watching hapa karate-dancing the fuck

>muh kung fu dancing!!!
>muh fat guys in spandex on top of each other
>muh tight end is also a wide receiver
All that shit, it's for the boids

>>28451707
EQ is just horoscopes for MBAs dawg

>>28454056
>All that shit, it's for the boids
I've heard of whitoids, foids, femoids, moids, but boids is a new one. Are there any I'm missing?

>>28454081
groid, roid, don't fear the noid, cheese coids, foid motors, a hoid of buffalo, hoid what she said, noidball

>>28454092
>cheese coids,
Asians?
>foid motors,
Does Ford have a reputation for being popular with shitty women?
>a hoid of buffalo, hoid what she said
Redpill me on this meme?

>>28454100
I sore it when i woke up oily foist in the moinin
Boithday and foist place also rhyme

>>28454109
typing like an 80 year old jewish guy from Brooklyn.

>>28454114
You could woid it like that

>>28454149
It hasn't happened in about a decade, but I used to like mouthing a series of similar sounding nonsense words.
milko wilko chilko dilko silko...

>>28454010
I mute during commercials if I'm actively watching it or ignore the commercials and focus on what I'm doing more during them if I have it on as background

>>28454172
You may have a better power of concentration than me. I can't focus on other things if I have dogshit commercials assaulting my mind.