>1999 ICE car
>78.4 mpg
Why don't automakers make stuff like this anymore?

because we have EVs. you can ride around in something much more spacious and powerful that doesn't even run on fuel.

>>28455935 (OP)
>hood is grille
>actual hood needs to be completely, physically removed on some 'drawer' mechanism
>looks like literal eggshit otherwise
eh

The UK and euros measure fuel mileage differently in several ways. In the 00s if you read top gear magazine you'd see cars getting 50% better mpg according to the UK even in the same spec.
The standards and test procedures have changed basically everywhere since then.
The US gallon is larger than the imperial gallon so that makes a chunk of it.
Nobody likes cars geared for fuel economy so they aren't really made often.
People seem to want heavier cars and think small is dangerous.

>>28455986
>The US gallon is larger than the imperial gallon so that makes a chunk of it.
Other way around, duh.

>>28455986
>3 liters per 100km or 94.2 mpg in imperial miles
Happy now?

>>28456000
I have no stake in this, I was just giving potential answers.

>>28456003
I am just making the post clearer.

>>28455952
The full alu unibody was kinda neat and apparently it's got a super low drag coefficient

>>28455935 (OP)
It sold like shit because regardless of what people babble, the goy will always go for "status". See how often you hear cattle complain about the gas prices while driving a literal gas guzzler.

Because the emissions control

>>28455952
To be fair that works for ~95% of people. Most don't do much more than filling up their wiper fluid and maybe topping up on oil.

>>28455935 (OP)
Because that doesn't make money, the A2 was very expensive in its class and the much more conventional Merc A-class handily outsold it while also being much more profitable. The BMW i3 met a very similar fate as it used a full carbon fiber tub for the sake of weight and efficiency, you'd think that a very forward thinking car like that would've done well in the EV boom but it never got a proper tech update because BMW corporate realized that half-assed pigfat landbarges with batteries hastily crammed under the hood shift a lot more units and are much, much, MUCH more profitable.

>>28455986
>The standards and test procedures have changed basically everywhere since then.
Wasn't the old Euro "NEDC" test procedure basically just simulating city driving in an extremely slow old shitbox?
Two thirds of the test cycle is made of a city driving simulation that's so slow (both in terms of speed and acceleration) you can complete it on a fucking bicycle if you're somewhat fit. It's then followed by a couple minutes of slightly faster driving and a slow acceleration to highway speed, at which point the test ends.

Aerodynamics and rolling resistance made little difference in the test, but they could strip the cars of things like side mirrors and roof rails, pump the tires well above recommended pressures, turn off AC, run economy modes nobody would ever be willing to use, etc. The allowed margin of error for measuring speed was also high enough that every test was probably driven slower than intended.
Somehow, the test was total garbage at actually simulating real driving.
It's no wonder almost every car is suddenly 20% to 30% less efficient when tested with newer procedures like the WLTP.

>>28456444
>Two thirds of the test cycle is made of a city driving simulation that's so slow (both in terms of speed and acceleration) you can complete it on a fucking bicycle if you're somewhat fit.
That's exactly what city driving is where I live.

I remember when I was a kid and thought every car was going to eventually look like the Honda Insight because that was the wackiest looking thing. When my dad got a used one for driving to work I thought he was ahead of the game. Honestly, I wish it did at this point. A fuel efficient vehicle with an I3 that doesn't grenade itself and a 5-speed? That sounds too good to be true in the hell we live in now.
The jokes of the past really are the dreams of the future. We just don't realize it till the whole industry is a joke.
>>28456424
>It sold like shit because regardless of what people babble, the goy will always go for "status".
Always confused me, but it's true. Didn't hit me till I got to 30. My friends who I thought valued... value, immediately started trying to get newer, but not better cars. My friend needed help looking for a car, said he wanted a crossover for more space. I sent him some low mileage mid-00s RAV4s and CRVs. Seemed like the best option for his needs, but he insisted it had to be at max 7 years old. He ended up getting a 2018 Ford Escape with over 125k miles and it's been a headache for him, but at least it's newer.

>>28456444
I've been in the cell when mpg tests were done. I've run tests to ensure dyno wind tunnels correlate with real conditions according to epa policy.The duty cycycle keeps changing. And I'm sure every country around the world has their own legal mountain to climb to certify vehicles. I assume the EU being a thing saved car companies from having to durability and legal test for every country.

>>28456466
He deserved it for ever considering any recent Ford

>>28455952
The entire car is brilliant and you are retarded.

>>28455952
You know, every time I have to open the hood in my shitbox I wish I could just take it off entirely, so it's not a problem. It's not hard to take off, and apparently it's not even that hard to work on if you don't have fat sausage fingers.

>>28456546
>its not hard to work if you don't have fat sausage fingers
This is why I bully these with thin stick fingers as a cope out... They can access places and do things unknown to the rest of mankind.

>>28456466
>said he wanted a crossover for more space
Regardless of the year or model, he was "keeping up with the Jones" goycattle.

>>28456628
Yep, crossovers only make the car taller, the interior and the ride is no better than a proper car.

>>28456580
>They can access places and do things unknown to the rest of mankind.
i have thin fingers and a huge dick, can attest to that statement

>>28456630
yep
why make the car taller up and not down, i will never understand
toyota got it, once, and it sold well too

>>28456633
All of the stuff around you was made by humans. The calculus you don't understand on wikipedia, someone intuitively understands that. Everything around you is built by a small percentage of humans, and some of them post to 4chan just like you.

>>28456655
i have thin fingers, big dick and understand calculus. i'm effectively superhuman.

>>28456683
In 2025, yeah I agree. That's basically superhuman status.

>>28456545
>sideways mounted engine
>FWD only
>largest engine is 1.6L
>brilliant in any way, shape or form
You might be the dumbest fuck I've seen on here in a while.

>>28456750
what the fuck you want from a granny car? v8 with 6x6?
fucking retard

>>28455935 (OP)
Because government regulation.

>>28455935 (OP)
Pumpe-Düse is the enemy of modern eco laws.

>>28456011
>apparently it's got a super low drag coefficient
Its .>3 like everything else anon.

That thing looks hideous

>>28457167
it's also got low frontal area, unlike modern suvs that claim .3

>>28456750
>sideways mounted engine
>FWD only
>largest engine is 1.6L
>brilliant in any way, shape or form
It's just like me fr

>>28455935 (OP)
The 3l version had some differences compared to the already expensive base A2. It was not just a little diesel in a perfectly normal car.
>automated manual transmission
>3l only reachable in eco-mode (engine limited to 33kW (45HP) with start-stop (OP in NEDC) and no engine braking
>special lightweight rearseats, no partial folding possible
>very expensive special rims (AlMg mixture)
>extra low resistance tires
>alu suspension
>20l tank
>no AC available
>improved aero

>>28457167
The 3l version was at 0.25, same as the Insight. That's still a very good value and the frontal area is only 2.2m2 too.

>>28455935 (OP)
These are dirt cheap to run and maintain also very reliabale. Inside dosnt feel like some ultra poorfag economy shitbox more like C segment saloon. Id say it is quite a hidden gem for europoors

>>28455935 (OP)
That was peak Audi when they were affordable and useful, now they are just expensive and overdesigned plastic shits. Back then if you wanted to be distinguished you'd buy the A2 or the A6, both with aluminum bodies.

>>28458958
>aluminum bodies
The A6 is steel, A8 was alu

>>28455935 (OP)
Other regulations got in the way of mpgs

>>28455935 (OP)
drove one years ago
>obviously fuelefficient
>seats as uncomfortable as it gets
>shitty ride to add to the shitty seats
a hypermiling machine you dont want to take on long drives because you ass goes numb after a few kilometers. dunno if there was a trumlevel that would have solved this though

>>28459128
No. Goycattle behavior did.
>>28460039
Thanks for the info, I was looking for one for my parents. But now I'll pay extra attention on the test drive.